PandaMiner B3 Pro New Batch Releases with Only $800-$1750!!!!

[philipma1957]

Eliovp

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=236770


spell check did me no favors


Still waiting on an invoice from panda miner

and as I said I will pay for the linux out of pocket if need be.

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[citronick]

I will be getting a linux build  from EVLIOP.

Hmm, i will go even further and make it EVILOP

Nevertheless, hardware seems to be decent and working linux build (with modded rom!!!) is worth every penny spend on it.

Currently, in my small GPU fram, all my Nano and RX480 "lowpower" ROMs are from Eliovp aka Heliox ~ I can only say that his 480M mod will likely not disappoint us.

Hope his project completes soon, my group has given me the greenlight to commission a "PandaRack with Eliovp Linux" !

[philipma1957]

the reason why we can not send to philipma is just simple , we can only accept Bitcoins from abroad, no foreign account. we just don't want to make our payment complex!
Be aim at the customers we cooperate with in the first time, we require payment before delivery in order to reduce the risks to a minimum.

"we require payment before delivery in order to reduce the risks to a minimum"

for this ...

I would say we need a prove before any of us going to send any BTC payment to a unknown company in china in order to reduce the risks to a minimum !!!  

And if you are a business person you should need to know this . You can take a risk for 2000$ as a company , but many ppl here in this forum can not afford to lose 2000$ !!! but probably a hundred of them can afford to pay 2000$ for a legit product !!!

Send your miner to philipma1957 or anyone else who we can trust in this forum.
Let us to pay with paypal at least for a very few first order ... that give us some kind of safety feelings and build trust ... You dont need any kind of international or foregin account with paypal , only thing you need is a paypal account , and if paypal payment is to " complex payment" for you for a very few first order ,then you should not be in any kind of business at all !!!

I would probably pay the price for your miner via paypal , or any escort service , but not with BTC on the first time , not for the very first order !!!

You should consider all this !!!

ok, build trust first, the first order can accept paypal, so if  philipma1957 or you want to buy our miners , send email to us ,and we will send paypal invoice to you, i create an account today, you can check 3437957828@qq.com.

I want to pay this miner off.   I checked account above.  it seems to be good.  I will send you an email. Asking for the invoice.

To follow up on this  I cashed coins to pay via paypal and was then asked to pay with coins.  Annoying to say the least but to pandaminer's credit then sent the gear for no charge upfront to help create trust on this site.

So I purchased the coins back from coinbase. and I am still waiting for them to clear..  With coins crashing I took a hit  but I will pay via coins.

my cost was 3.059 coins.  I have been paying with coinbase as they clear.

So far I paid them 2.059 and owe them 1 btc.


https://blockchain.info/address/1LSvbxS2KWBtR9r3q8YQyPy8EZGtCdgq8t

last 1 btc will clear tonight.

Once again I want to thank pandaminer for sending this up front.

[Eagleone]

Ouch ! Worst timing wish I had the $$ for one of these

[philipma1957]

Ouch ! Worst timing wish I had the $$ for one of these

well I sold 2 coins for 2100  and purchased 3 back for 2500

so it is not terrible timing

last coin clears on friday.

[zoggie]

Ouch ! Worst timing wish I had the $$ for one of these

well I sold 2 coins for 2100  and purchased 3 back for 2500

so it is not terrible timing

last coin clears on friday.

what ended up being the import taxes payable to the government for the largely adjusted price?

[philipma1957]

Ouch ! Worst timing wish I had the $$ for one of these

well I sold 2 coins for 2100  and purchased 3 back for 2500

so it is not terrible timing

last coin clears on friday.

what ended up being the import taxes payable to the government for the largely adjusted price?

The price is USA dollar based.

2180+80+140= 2400-30 = 2370.

It truly is a pc and under 2500 a pc is tax free in the USA.

[Searing]

Ouch ! Worst timing wish I had the $$ for one of these

well I sold 2 coins for 2100  and purchased 3 back for 2500

so it is not terrible timing

last coin clears on friday.

what ended up being the import taxes payable to the government for the largely adjusted price?

The price is USA dollar based.

2180+80+140= 2400-30 = 2370.

It truly is a pc and under 2500 a pc is tax free in the USA.

I have managed to 'resist' the temptation of any new machines of any stripe be it sha-256/scrypt/or GPU (got out of my GPU stuff
THOUGHT it was 1k loss in btc but then again switched it at 1154 usd...so got out of it all at a draw in BTC)

My plan on the pandaminer IF as everyone says on here eventually if it can be up graded say...look at it at the end of the year
or used one then to play with..and likely then will also add in the heat the house benifit as an excuse

(damn a plan in crypto..and equipment...usually i just run with the other lemmings to the shouts of 'cliff,cliff,cliff)

[philipma1957]

Ouch ! Worst timing wish I had the $$ for one of these

well I sold 2 coins for 2100  and purchased 3 back for 2500

so it is not terrible timing

last coin clears on friday.

what ended up being the import taxes payable to the government for the largely adjusted price?

The price is USA dollar based.

2180+80+140= 2400-30 = 2370.

It truly is a pc and under 2500 a pc is tax free in the USA.

I have managed to 'resist' the temptation of any new machines of any stripe be it sha-256/scrypt/or GPU (got out of my GPU stuff
THOUGHT it was 1k loss in btc but then again switched it at 1154 usd...so got out of it all at a draw in BTC)

My plan on the pandaminer IF as everyone says on here eventually if it can be up graded say...look at it at the end of the year
or used one then to play with..and likely then will also add in the heat the house benifit as an excuse

(damn a plan in crypto..and equipment...usually i just run with the other lemmings to the shouts of 'cliff,cliff,cliff)

I pushed to promo it for the future..  I can see it is really good gear.

I need to get better software.


I sent my final btc this morning  pandaminer has been paid in full.

Once again I thank them for sending the model in advance to me.


https://blockchain.info/address/1LSvbxS2KWBtR9r3q8YQyPy8EZGtCdgq8t

if you calculate what I paid  at time of payment  it comes to 2452.59  due to exchange differences rather then 2370 as billed on their invoice.
if you add in the 325 for the evga psu I am at 2777.59
if you add in the ram upgrade 50 usd I am at 2827.59

I have yet to get  the linux build  which will cost more.  
So figure for me to promo this gear for this forum I spend 3000.  maybe more as I do not know what the linux software+ roms will cost me.

If you are really good with software and get a good linux+roms build it is worth it.

[Searing]

Ouch ! Worst timing wish I had the $$ for one of these

well I sold 2 coins for 2100  and purchased 3 back for 2500

so it is not terrible timing

last coin clears on friday.

what ended up being the import taxes payable to the government for the largely adjusted price?

The price is USA dollar based.

2180+80+140= 2400-30 = 2370.

It truly is a pc and under 2500 a pc is tax free in the USA.

I have managed to 'resist' the temptation of any new machines of any stripe be it sha-256/scrypt/or GPU (got out of my GPU stuff
THOUGHT it was 1k loss in btc but then again switched it at 1154 usd...so got out of it all at a draw in BTC)

My plan on the pandaminer IF as everyone says on here eventually if it can be up graded say...look at it at the end of the year
or used one then to play with..and likely then will also add in the heat the house benifit as an excuse

(damn a plan in crypto..and equipment...usually i just run with the other lemmings to the shouts of 'cliff,cliff,cliff)

I pushed to promo it for the future..  I can see it is really good gear.

I need to get better software.

I've been having to much luck with used or bankrupt stuff and roi'ing repeatedly. So am
Waiting on ltc gear and or other stuff used at end of year off mining profits.   Er maybe. I may just hold

Admiditedly, with the above a lot less risk. But if we are lucky and crypto rises in price, this method will work again.

If nothing else if I crack under the pressure I can get an L3 for fun end of year as
Hopefully a foot warmer as used....even Steven elec vs heat.   

[dagarair]

i have a couple as well and they are solid.  Only issue is trying to talk to them is like talking to a brick wall.  None of them speak english well enough to decipher wtf they are trying to tell you.  I'm positive they use google translator or something.  So count on no support.  Time will tell how durable they are but at first glance they are rock solid.

[BChydro]

In case you guys are curious, this is how much you'd be earning by mining either ETH, ZEC, XMR, ZCL or ETC with a Panda Miner (after power costs) right now:

http://www.mycryptobuddy.com/path?hardware=custom&selectedCoins=ETH,ZEC&Ethash=237&Equihash=1880&Cryptonote=5890&powerEthash=1250&powerEquihash=1200&powerCryptonote=1120

[CjMapope]

In case you guys are curious, this is how much you'd be earning by mining either ETH, ZEC, XMR, ZCL or ETC with a Panda Miner (after power costs) right now:

http://www.mycryptobuddy.com/path?hardware=custom&selectedCoins=ETH,ZEC&Ethash=237&Equihash=1880&Cryptonote=5890&powerEthash=1250&powerEquihash=1200&powerCryptonote=1120

hmm, interesting...

the only thing stopping me from pulling the trigger on one of these is the MXM video cards, i am still trying to figure out upgradability :/
cause tbh, with how GPU's work, it will be no different than any other miner, it will NEED to upgrade to stay viable.
i would HATE to buy one of these, then VEGA drops and the possibilities open up. IF its easier to upgrade my own GPUS, ill stay with my own rigs

@Phil. so are you looking at about 12 months+ ROI at 3k purchase price? IF not upgradable, that doesn't sound promising :/

[klondike_bar]

the only thing stopping me from pulling the trigger on one of these is the MXM video cards, i am still trying to figure out upgradability :/
cause tbh, with how GPU's work, it will be no different than any other miner, it will NEED to upgrade to stay viable.
i would HATE to buy one of these, then VEGA drops and the possibilities open up. IF its easier to upgrade my own GPUS, ill stay with my own rigs

these are not for people who intend to upgrade them within less than a year - not sure what you expect to do with the used rx480 cards even if you did do the upgrade?

[ps_jb]

hmm, interesting...

the only thing stopping me from pulling the trigger on one of these is the MXM video cards, i am still trying to figure out upgradability :/
cause tbh, with how GPU's work, it will be no different than any other miner, it will NEED to upgrade to stay viable.
i would HATE to buy one of these, then VEGA drops and the possibilities open up. IF its easier to upgrade my own GPUS, ill stay with my own rigs

@Phil. so are you looking at about 12 months+ ROI at 3k purchase price? IF not upgradable, that doesn't sound promising :/

My understanding is - you cannot easily upgrade MXM GPUs. Only source of them for customers will be on Ebay from users cannibalized their laptops.

I would gladly be wrong on it

[CjMapope]

the only thing stopping me from pulling the trigger on one of these is the MXM video cards, i am still trying to figure out upgradability :/
cause tbh, with how GPU's work, it will be no different than any other miner, it will NEED to upgrade to stay viable.
i would HATE to buy one of these, then VEGA drops and the possibilities open up. IF its easier to upgrade my own GPUS, ill stay with my own rigs

these are not for people who intend to upgrade them within less than a year - not sure what you expect to do with the used rx480 cards even if you did do the upgrade?

right, so why would these be appeasable ? just the plug and play thing?

hmm, interesting...

the only thing stopping me from pulling the trigger on one of these is the MXM video cards, i am still trying to figure out upgradability :/
cause tbh, with how GPU's work, it will be no different than any other miner, it will NEED to upgrade to stay viable.
i would HATE to buy one of these, then VEGA drops and the possibilities open up. IF its easier to upgrade my own GPUS, ill stay with my own rigs

@Phil. so are you looking at about 12 months+ ROI at 3k purchase price? IF not upgradable, that doesn't sound promising :/

My understanding is - you cannot easily upgrade MXM GPUs. Only source of them for customers will be on Ebay from users cannibalized their laptops.

I would gladly be wrong on it

thats what i was thinking, so i just dont see the reason to buy one of these myself then, except ya the plug and play thing, but wont it just be a paper weight by (if not b4) one even ROI's?
AMD has new cards coming, so does Nvidia, as always.  Maybe Pandaminer will have local distributors one can take their machine to for upgraded cards in the future, as the ONLY thing that matters to me mainly is upgradability of these. the rest is just meh, can do it myself for cheaper (and more fun).

[philipma1957]

hmm, interesting...

the only thing stopping me from pulling the trigger on one of these is the MXM video cards, i am still trying to figure out upgradability :/
cause tbh, with how GPU's work, it will be no different than any other miner, it will NEED to upgrade to stay viable.
i would HATE to buy one of these, then VEGA drops and the possibilities open up. IF its easier to upgrade my own GPUS, ill stay with my own rigs

@Phil. so are you looking at about 12 months+ ROI at 3k purchase price? IF not upgradable, that doesn't sound promising :/

My understanding is - you cannot easily upgrade MXM GPUs. Only source of them for customers will be on Ebay from users cannibalized their laptops.

I would gladly be wrong on it

I could return the gold evga 1600g2  and drop price to 2700.

Whether that lets me roi I do not know.

I do have places for very low cost power just split the coins.  Which means I can mine for 2 or 3 years .

Time will tell.  I purchased this to help promo what I see as good gear.  Which it is,  but with out a plug-n-play software value drops.

I will buy a plug n play  linux/rom from Eliovp when he tells me he has one for me.

[citronick]

In case you guys are curious, this is how much you'd be earning by mining either ETH, ZEC, XMR, ZCL or ETC with a Panda Miner (after power costs) right now:

http://www.mycryptobuddy.com/path?hardware=custom&selectedCoins=ETH,ZEC&Ethash=237&Equihash=1880&Cryptonote=5890&powerEthash=1250&powerEquihash=1200&powerCryptonote=1120

Nice project you have here - what miner are you using for XMR?

[Searing]

hmm, interesting...

the only thing stopping me from pulling the trigger on one of these is the MXM video cards, i am still trying to figure out upgradability :/
cause tbh, with how GPU's work, it will be no different than any other miner, it will NEED to upgrade to stay viable.
i would HATE to buy one of these, then VEGA drops and the possibilities open up. IF its easier to upgrade my own GPUS, ill stay with my own rigs

@Phil. so are you looking at about 12 months+ ROI at 3k purchase price? IF not upgradable, that doesn't sound promising :/

My understanding is - you cannot easily upgrade MXM GPUs. Only source of them for customers will be on Ebay from users cannibalized their laptops.

I would gladly be wrong on it

I could return the gold evga 1600g2  and drop price to 2700.

Whether that lets me roi I do not know.

I do have places for very low cost power just split the coins.  Which means I can mine for 2 or 3 years .

Time will tell.  I purchased this to help promo what I see as good gear.  Which it is,  but with out a plug-n-play software value drops.

I will buy a plug n play  linux/rom from Eliovp when he tells me he has one for me.

Tax advantages in the USA.....you get 100% off your first year..no 5 year plan needed anymore against any profits

Thus if you can apply all as a 'take away' of say your 10K made mining in a year on other stuff (and this miner) and your cost is 3000 bucks say...that is what you said in a previous post?
that is 750 bucks off whatever profits you would have had to pay for mining etc....all the stuff in equip depreciation the IRS allows you now to take as one shot (computer equipment)
includes psu's ..or so I've done. So eventually the price would be down with that (again assuming mining profits are enough) to knock the REAL PRICE TO ABOUT $2250

you probably know this ..just kicking it out there (I have all sorts of justifications to buy toys) ....Also works well for the NEW laptop at 2k don't ya know same deal if under the business
of legal crypto mining in usa

[klondike_bar]

the only thing stopping me from pulling the trigger on one of these is the MXM video cards, i am still trying to figure out upgradability :/
cause tbh, with how GPU's work, it will be no different than any other miner, it will NEED to upgrade to stay viable.
i would HATE to buy one of these, then VEGA drops and the possibilities open up. IF its easier to upgrade my own GPUS, ill stay with my own rigs

these are not for people who intend to upgrade them within less than a year - not sure what you expect to do with the used rx480 cards even if you did do the upgrade?

right, so why would these be appeasable ? just the plug and play thing?

hmm, interesting...

the only thing stopping me from pulling the trigger on one of these is the MXM video cards, i am still trying to figure out upgradability :/
cause tbh, with how GPU's work, it will be no different than any other miner, it will NEED to upgrade to stay viable.
i would HATE to buy one of these, then VEGA drops and the possibilities open up. IF its easier to upgrade my own GPUS, ill stay with my own rigs

@Phil. so are you looking at about 12 months+ ROI at 3k purchase price? IF not upgradable, that doesn't sound promising :/

My understanding is - you cannot easily upgrade MXM GPUs. Only source of them for customers will be on Ebay from users cannibalized their laptops.

I would gladly be wrong on it

thats what i was thinking, so i just dont see the reason to buy one of these myself then, except ya the plug and play thing, but wont it just be a paper weight by (if not b4) one even ROI's?
AMD has new cards coming, so does Nvidia, as always.  Maybe Pandaminer will have local distributors one can take their machine to for upgraded cards in the future, as the ONLY thing that matters to me mainly is upgradability of these. the rest is just meh, can do it myself for cheaper (and more fun).

This system has a handful of advantages over a custom mining rig with fullsize gpus:
1) its pretty much plug-n-play, whereas a custom rig can take a several hours longer to assemble, install OS/drivers, etc even when done en masse
2) higher power density. you can stack these in a tight space (like a datacenter)
3) fans should last a long time, and are otherwise replaceable (80mm server fans i assume?)

This system isnt really for home mining. its for those who want to install a large number of GPUs where power is cheap and openrigs are not accepted (or require too much maintenance).

theres no reason why the rx480 wont remain relevant to mining (even if better cards are released) for at least 2 years. look at the fact that the 2xx series and 79xx series have both been profitable on ethereum and/or zcash over the past few months. even if the mxm cards can be upgraded, its likely most buyers wont be buying upgrades for it until 2019 or beyond (the case/mobo/cpu is only a small part of the overall unit price anyways)

MXM cards dont resell easily i imagine - so by upgrading youd be putting your rx480 cards aside to gather dust. As mentioned, i have 3 270x cards that are still turning about $0.30/day/gpu profit. I bought them in ~2014 for the litecoin boom, so its been over two years and they are still relevant

That said, i dont see why pandaminer wouldnt be able to obtain and sell upgrade boards to its customers eventually. I bet they can get the MXM cards at a good price (should be cheaper than a full GPU), tack on a bit of profit, and still sell them for cheaper than a fullsize GPU in stores.