[ANN] Zclassic, Zcash Fork No Premine, No 20% Founders Tax

[CryptoWaffle]

People are attempting to manipulate the hysteria sell-off even more to buy at a lower price point, intensified by the effect of shrinking markets today.
There isn't anything wrong with the released statement, sure a delay of 4 weeks can be disappointing to those looking for immediate gain, however at the same time there's sound argumentation as to the reasons for this delay (more thorough testing, added exchange support for this fork amongst others, clear initiatives on how to reach that). Therefore it shows clearly:

a) Maturity of the dev team
b) Elimination of any contingencies related to the hardfork
c) Added support of exchanges, therefore significantly better launch / wider spread volume, which in turn will result to augmented value.

or for some people, it shows clearly:

1- Immaturity and incompetence of the dev team
2- ZCL was a shitcoin and therefore the fork will also be a shitcoin (see point 1-)

Right ?

[DES_MX]

Acknowledging issues in a timely manner and sharing through a structured update, as well as engaging community to alleviate and overcome these issues shows otherwise.
It's just that no one is looking to take a hiccup or delay and everyone is looking into instant gratification, which is understandable of course, but doesn't nullify other arguments.

People are attempting to manipulate the hysteria sell-off even more to buy at a lower price point, intensified by the effect of shrinking markets today.
There isn't anything wrong with the released statement, sure a delay of 4 weeks can be disappointing to those looking for immediate gain, however at the same time there's sound argumentation as to the reasons for this delay (more thorough testing, added exchange support for this fork amongst others, clear initiatives on how to reach that). Therefore it shows clearly:

a) Maturity of the dev team
b) Elimination of any contingencies related to the hardfork
c) Added support of exchanges, therefore significantly better launch / wider spread volume, which in turn will result to augmented value.

or for some people, it shows clearly:

1- Immaturity and incompetence of the dev team
2- ZCL was a shitcoin and therefore the fork will also be a shitcoin (see point 1-)

Right ?

[CryptoWaffle]

Acknowledging issues in a timely manner and sharing through a structured update, as well as engaging community to alleviate and overcome these issues shows otherwise.
It's just that no one is looking to take a hiccup or delay and everyone is looking into instant gratification, which is understandable of course, but doesn't nullify other arguments.

People are attempting to manipulate the hysteria sell-off even more to buy at a lower price point, intensified by the effect of shrinking markets today.
There isn't anything wrong with the released statement, sure a delay of 4 weeks can be disappointing to those looking for immediate gain, however at the same time there's sound argumentation as to the reasons for this delay (more thorough testing, added exchange support for this fork amongst others, clear initiatives on how to reach that). Therefore it shows clearly:

a) Maturity of the dev team
b) Elimination of any contingencies related to the hardfork
c) Added support of exchanges, therefore significantly better launch / wider spread volume, which in turn will result to augmented value.

or for some people, it shows clearly:

1- Immaturity and incompetence of the dev team
2- ZCL was a shitcoin and therefore the fork will also be a shitcoin (see point 1-)

Right ?

DNR
top posting is so pathetic...

[lerecidivste]

 

getting lost with all the bad new ! 

btc private = btc ponzi or what ??

[br2459]

Acknowledging issues in a timely manner and sharing through a structured update, as well as engaging community to alleviate and overcome these issues shows otherwise.
It's just that no one is looking to take a hiccup or delay and everyone is looking into instant gratification, which is understandable of course, but doesn't nullify other arguments.

People are attempting to manipulate the hysteria sell-off even more to buy at a lower price point, intensified by the effect of shrinking markets today.
There isn't anything wrong with the released statement, sure a delay of 4 weeks can be disappointing to those looking for immediate gain, however at the same time there's sound argumentation as to the reasons for this delay (more thorough testing, added exchange support for this fork amongst others, clear initiatives on how to reach that). Therefore it shows clearly:

a) Maturity of the dev team
b) Elimination of any contingencies related to the hardfork
c) Added support of exchanges, therefore significantly better launch / wider spread volume, which in turn will result to augmented value.

or for some people, it shows clearly:

1- Immaturity and incompetence of the dev team
2- ZCL was a shitcoin and therefore the fork will also be a shitcoin (see point 1-)

Right ?

DNR
top posting is so pathetic...

I agree with DES on everything they said. Been watching the developments from both the forums and their respective tweeter feeds. It's nice to see the communication, although it would be nice to know about more exchange support, but I will still hold it for the fork. Not sure what top posting is all about and why it's pathetic but to each has it's own opinion I guess.

[alxin]

I wish that such companies were as much as possible!

[wtfonly16]

People are attempting to manipulate the hysteria sell-off even more to buy at a lower price point, intensified by the effect of shrinking markets today.
There isn't anything wrong with the released statement, sure a delay of 4 weeks can be disappointing to those looking for immediate gain, however at the same time there's sound argumentation as to the reasons for this delay (more thorough testing, added exchange support for this fork amongst others, clear initiatives on how to reach that). Therefore it shows clearly:

a) Maturity of the dev team
b) Elimination of any contingencies related to the hardfork
c) Added support of exchanges, therefore significantly better launch / wider spread volume, which in turn will result to augmented value.

or for some people, it shows clearly:

1- Immaturity and incompetence of the dev team
2- ZCL was a shitcoin and therefore the fork will also be a shitcoin (see point 1-)

Right ?

👍

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[grandford]

Team Bitcoin Privat deserves respect for what was posted on Reditt full picture of the situation, plan their actions on the way to the fork, and indicated the approximate date . It's better than when we were in the unseen, I have created negative sentiments and has given rise to flooding.

To make the fork while there are many unresolved issues - is a direct road to failure of the plan.
Therefore, I Express my gratitude to the development team for their responsible approach to the upcoming event fork and for their concern holders of the coins involved in the fork.

[Piston Honda]

lol rekt this shit was bound to happen

[gorrion]

Bitcoin Private Update posted in Reddit, Great work :

"We have many updates for the community after this weekend, so we decided to write up an official statement on our progress:
 
The local fork simulation occurred over the weekend and went very well. No errors were observed. Next weekend we will do a public fork simulation. More info on how to join is forthcoming.

Alpha testing of the ZClassic Electrum wallet occured in our public discord over the weekend. We tested the wallet on Mac, Windows, and Linux. The testing went extremely well: a few issues were discovered and have now been corrected. This wallet is still only capable of transparent transactions; our developers are hard at work on getting the shielded transactions working. Pending any roadblocks, a fully functional beta should be released for public testing later this week.

We have been addressing the issues in the Eleos wallet as well and are preparing to release a final version of this for ZClassic soon.

Our Operations Lead, @CryptoJake22 will be presenting at a conference on Jan. 27 about Bitcoin Private and its utility for business owners. Bitcoin Private will be sponsoring the event so that registration is entirely free. We are extremely excited to be involved. See the event [here](www.cryptoinfrisco.com).

We have named multiple project leads for Bitcoin Private, including Lead Blockchain Developer (jc), Lead Wallet Developer (ch4ot1c), Lead Marketers (Giuseppe and Mike), Lead Designer (JosephT), and Support Team Lead (Denni). These BTCP contributors had all shown exceptional commitment over the last few weeks and made it abundantly clear they were perfect for these positions. Each lead is actively recruiting users on our public discord so please go there and reach out to them if you are interested in working with us.

We also have legal counselors on staff now (Jesse and Peter).

We have been thinking a lot about how to ensure BTCP is supported by exchanges. Given the current crypto environment, this is not an easy task. The exchanges are overloaded by new registrations and verifications. Based on this, we have decided to have the fork occur 4 weeks after the fork date announcement. We want to be clear: the fork code is ready for implementation, but this added lead time will drastically increase our chances of getting onto exchanges. If anyone in the community has direct contacts at exchanges they would like to share, we would be very grateful. Most exchanges charge a BTC fee which can be quite substantial and speaking directly with an exchange representative will allow us to get more accurate information on how to get listed.

We are launching a large fundraising program in order to pay for exchanges (50% of fund), development (25%), and marketing (25%). If you are interested in investing, please use the addresses on the right side of this page. You can also reach out directly via our telegram or discord if you are interested in investing.

Finally, we are going to launch a program titled the “Voluntary Miner Contribution Program” in order to raise funds. Essentially, we are asking ZClassic miners to donate their hashing power to us until 50,000 ZCL is raised. For every ZCL earned, the miners will receive 1.25 BTCP after the fork is complete. In conjunction, we will be setting up a multi-signature wallet to be governed by the community (2 people from the community and 2 from the miners) to ensure these raised funds are spent properly and transparently. We have reached out to the mining pools to gauge interest and are working on the code required to make this happen. Hopefully it can be launched within the next 10-14 days. You can read more about it here and also can fill out a survey about it here if you are a miner.
 
Regards,
The Bitcoin Private/ZClassic Team

[winmon]

This sounds very interesting......hope to see more news soon; good luck with getting the heavy-duty coding done in only 2 weeks!

[drowtio]

Everything that is connected with blocking technologies is cool by definition!

[MrSnarks]

Everything appears to be progressing just fine. Dev team is holding a conference and keeping us up to date. It is clear from their posts that they wish to release a well tested and functional product instead of rushing it out the door.

For anyone not in the know there are some people actively working to spread FUD and undermine this project. One such troll bought bitcoinprivate.org and bitcoinprivate.com domains, which they pointed to a Github repo with ZERO work done on it lol and a message stating that it is the real and only bitcoin private. Basically some sour grapes asshole that couldn't sell their domains to the zclassic / bitcoin private team for large sum and is now using them to attack the brand and effort by leveraging on these domains. Spread the word that the only domain for bitcoin private is btcprivate.org, as is returned by google as the first result when searching for 'bitcoin private' ! Help stop people from getting confused by this malicious effort, most likely under many different usernames on here as well. I am curious to know just what price domain squatter was asking for these domains for the team to reject the offer ?


Someone has also purchased bitcoinprivate.io and made it point a twitter post by Snowden praising zcash. I am not sure if it's the same person that bought the other two aforementioned domains or someone with a stake in zcash.

Make no mistake, bitcoin private will be big, zclassic sales have raised tens of millions of dollars by now and zclassic is the only team with the money, expertise, legitimacy and recognition that is associated with bitcoin private. Once the fork date is announced zclassic will quickly jump into the $200+ zone again and potentially much higher, bitcoin private will be huge.

[grandford]

I'm really confused! Explain, please, I correctly understand the following:
there are wallets for ZCL:
1. SWING wallet
2. ZCL Electrum wallet
3. ZCL Elios wallet.

1. SWING wallet - because heavy needs to be in sync with the whole block chain. This is the same wallet Windows Wallet 1.1, which sends the reference c official website ZClassic and инcтpyкwия reddit
https://www.reddit.com/r/ZClassic/comments/7kynho/how_to_install_the_windows_zclassic_wallet_yes/

2. What is ZCL Electrum wallet? It is a lightweight wallet like Electrum wallet for BTC? No need to sync with the full block chain ?
Do you have download link?
Please give me the download link.

3. ZCL Elios wallet - is it possible to install it on windows? Required or not sync with the block chain?.
Please give me the download link.

[grandford]

Who has accurate knowledge about these wallets above explain! I beg of You! Branch ZCL has very many pages. Tried to form for themselves a clear understanding, but seem more confused than ever.

I'm probably not the only one.

[cryptoraider1]

Everything appears to be progressing just fine. Dev team is holding a conference and keeping us up to date. It is clear from their posts that they wish to release a well tested and functional product instead of rushing it out the door.

For anyone not in the know there are some people actively working to spread FUD and undermine this project. One such troll bought bitcoinprivate.org and bitcoinprivate.com domains, which they pointed to a Github repo with ZERO work done on it lol and a message stating that it is the real and only bitcoin private. Basically some sour grapes asshole that couldn't sell their domains to the zclassic / bitcoin private team for large sum and is now using them to attack the brand and effort by leveraging on these domains. Spread the word that the only domain for bitcoin private is btcprivate.org, as is returned by google as the first result when searching for 'bitcoin private' ! Help stop people from getting confused by this malicious effort, most likely under many different usernames on here as well. I am curious to know just what price domain squatter was asking for these domains for the team to reject the offer ?


Someone has also purchased bitcoinprivate.io and made it point a twitter post by Snowden praising zcash. I am not sure if it's the same person that bought the other two aforementioned domains or someone with a stake in zcash.

Make no mistake, bitcoin private will be big, zclassic sales have raised tens of millions of dollars by now and zclassic is the only team with the money, expertise, legitimacy and recognition that is associated with bitcoin private. Once the fork date is announced zclassic will quickly jump into the $200+ zone again and potentially much higher, bitcoin private will be huge.

Very bad people aren't they? They have registered all possible domains bitcoinprivate.io, .org, .this .that.
Or, are they clever(er)?
Who wouldn't reserver the domains first and other important checklist items ticked before deciding on the coin name? Everyone would.
Erp....no no. Zclassic team wouldn't. Because they are special. They are the fork specialist. They've made money from Zclassic, now is the time to make another coin and hmm.... make more money.
But what about the webdomains?? hmm. it was John's responsibility, no,no, it was Jenny's. Did they not do it? Who did it then?
Oops! Someone else did? Well, looks like it.
So?
It's easy! Blame everyone else but yourself! Kiching! Sorted!
Come on guys, you can do better than that?

[lerecidivste]

  https://news.bitcoin.com/trend-analysis-reveals-loved-hated-cryptocurrencies/     

[degxtra1]

So many newbie shill accounts activated in this topic, it's really funny to see how wafel, raider, rajaEmZet and few others trying to shit on this topic.  

Unfortunaterlly their jokes are still below my taste.

But 'Im sure you guys could do better: So this is my offer to you

If you publish at least one post - something really funny OR stupid as usual (with last you shouldn't get any problem) and you collect highest number of points,  I promise to pay you at least  1 ZCL or 600 USD, whichever you choose,  on 13 of March 2018.

I'm gonna tip you some points for every your post, every few days or weekly at least: ie whatever bulshit you publish here ( BUT MUST BE FUNNY) I will tip with some points from 1-10. If its FUD I will just score with negative points, from -1 to -10 for real crap.

On 13 March I will calculate each points and winner may claim prize as long winner score is higher than 0 or zero

No, you don't need say to me thank you,
And you don't need to fill out any form to be qualified for the tournament - I will do it for ya free of charge.

So, competition started!

There are few symbolic surprizes for loosers

Edited, ready to read 20:50 pm UTC 23/01/2018 / probably final version

[greenhope]

I'm really confused! Explain, please, I correctly understand the following:
there are wallets for ZCL:
1. SWING wallet
2. ZCL Electrum wallet
3. ZCL Elios wallet.

1. SWING wallet - because heavy needs to be in sync with the whole block chain. This is the same wallet Windows Wallet 1.1, which sends the reference c official website ZClassic and инcтpyкwия reddit
https://www.reddit.com/r/ZClassic/comments/7kynho/how_to_install_the_windows_zclassic_wallet_yes/

2. What is ZCL Electrum wallet? It is a lightweight wallet like Electrum wallet for BTC? No need to sync with the full block chain ?
Do you have download link?
Please give me the download link.

3. ZCL Elios wallet - is it possible to install it on windows? Required or not sync with the block chain?.
Please give me the download link.

Your best bet will be Zcl Elctrum wallet, and it is in testing right now.
The team will release it when it pass all the test.
The fork will take a little while, you should have plenty of time.
Swing and Eleos wallet will be fine to store coins for the fork, but many users expressed problems in sync'ing and some limited usability.