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Author Topic: [ANN] cudaMiner & ccMiner CUDA based mining applications [Windows/Linux/MacOSX]  (Read 3426873 times)
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June 26, 2014, 09:29:33 PM
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How big of a PSU is needed to run 6 750ti cards (w/o 6-pin PCIe connectors)?

I run 6x 750 ti (MSI) with no power connectors on the cards (with powered risers) on a 650W Platinum PSU.

Even the power hungry algos only seem to barely go above 375W for the whole system, and mining JPC I am only pulling 150W at the wall.

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June 26, 2014, 10:14:09 PM
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cudamining.cc is finally back up after lots of messing about

Nice! Is it me or is it loading faster than before? Wink
Also, don't forget to add the cryptonite mod, tsiv has an officially released windows binary on his github  Smiley
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June 26, 2014, 10:46:18 PM
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So my thought is: With the white paper describing the FFT process as opposed to S-Box lookup, couldn't we use cuFFT (as a part of the Cuda Toolbox) to elminate the need for any of the S-boxes in the encryption methods, and then change the formula's given for the each hash and run them all through cuFFT. Maybe I am missing something in the math..I probably am, but I think if we could implement this, we could see huge advantages... Yes? No?
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June 26, 2014, 10:48:51 PM
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So my thought is: With the white paper describing the FFT process as opposed to S-Box lookup, couldn't we use cuFFT (as a part of the Cuda Toolbox) to elminate the need for any of the S-boxes in the encryption methods, and then change the formula's given for the each hash and run them all through cuFFT. Maybe I am missing something in the math..I probably am, but I think if we could implement this, we could see huge advantages... Yes? No?

I think there is an algo which is already solved through fft (though my understanding of those algo is pretty scarce at the moment)

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June 26, 2014, 11:08:01 PM
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Question... I'm used to the old POWER HUNGRY GeForce cards...

How big of a PSU is needed to run 6 750ti cards (w/o 6-pin PCIe connectors)?

Just too add on.

Do not try and over load a single daisy chain with the ti's if you are using powered risers.

I would recommend only 2 per daisy chain.

If you are going to leave your BTC on an exchange please send it to this address instead 1GH3ub3UUHbU5qDJW5u3E9jZ96ZEmzaXtG, I will at least use the money better than someone who steals it from the exchange. Thanks Wink
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June 26, 2014, 11:46:58 PM
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Hey folks - we should respond to these questions regarding tsiv's bounty: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=656841.msg7536834#msg7536834
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I would like to comment briefly on awarding the bounty since I am responsible for the largest pledge (I think).

From what I have seen, tsiv should receive a bounty payment. I'm not sure he should receive the full amount quite yet. (Though I am also not saying he should not.)

I would like to hear public comments on the following points before reaching a conclusion.

My criteria for awarding the bounty are:

1. Quality. Is the miner 100% reliable, or does it crash or hang?

2. Compatibility. Does the miner support a full range of operating systems, hardware devices (limited to the specified family -- AMD or NV), and drivers? Hardware, operating systems, or drivers which lack some essential features for acceptable performance can be excluded, as can obviously obsolete ones.

3. Open source, maintainability. Is the code provided in a full open source manner, such that others can contribute improvements?  Is it well documented, well organized, and easy to understand?

4. Performance. Does the mine provided competitive performance (i.e. does it make sense to actually use it).

100% perfection on every one of these points is not necessary or practical -- certainly not to receive a partial bounty. These are guidelines for evaluation, not specific requirements.

If there are significant deficiencies in any or all of these areas, then the original developer should have the opportunity to address them in order to qualify for the full bounty. Failing that, others may contribute improvements to claim part of the bounty.

I would like to hear substantive comments from any stakeholders or community members addressing these points.

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June 26, 2014, 11:58:05 PM
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Hey folks - we should respond to these questions regarding tsiv's bounty: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=656841.msg7536834#msg7536834
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I would like to comment briefly on awarding the bounty since I am responsible for the largest pledge (I think).

From what I have seen, tsiv should receive a bounty payment. I'm not sure he should receive the full amount quite yet. (Though I am also not saying he should not.)

I would like to hear public comments on the following points before reaching a conclusion.

My criteria for awarding the bounty are:

1. Quality. Is the miner 100% reliable, or does it crash or hang?

Grin If quality was important, they would never have used cryptonote (most crappy wallet/network usage disk usage, user unfriendliness, etc...)

very picky for such a coin... may-be they should first try to improve the quality of their wallet before judging on the quality of what other do

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June 27, 2014, 12:08:45 AM
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Hey folks - we should respond to these questions regarding tsiv's bounty: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=656841.msg7536834#msg7536834
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I would like to comment briefly on awarding the bounty since I am responsible for the largest pledge (I think).

From what I have seen, tsiv should receive a bounty payment. I'm not sure he should receive the full amount quite yet. (Though I am also not saying he should not.)

I would like to hear public comments on the following points before reaching a conclusion.

My criteria for awarding the bounty are:

1. Quality. Is the miner 100% reliable, or does it crash or hang?

Grin If quality was important, they would never have used cryptonote (most crappy wallet/network usage disk usage, user unfriendliness, etc...)

very picky for such a coin... may-be they should first try to improve the quality of their wallet before judging on the quality of what other do


I've sent u PM, thanks

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June 27, 2014, 12:21:17 AM
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Hey folks - we should respond to these questions regarding tsiv's bounty: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=656841.msg7536834#msg7536834
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I would like to comment briefly on awarding the bounty since I am responsible for the largest pledge (I think).

From what I have seen, tsiv should receive a bounty payment. I'm not sure he should receive the full amount quite yet. (Though I am also not saying he should not.)

I would like to hear public comments on the following points before reaching a conclusion.

My criteria for awarding the bounty are:

1. Quality. Is the miner 100% reliable, or does it crash or hang?

Grin If quality was important, they would never have used cryptonote (most crappy wallet/network usage disk usage, user unfriendliness, etc...)

very picky for such a coin... may-be they should first try to improve the quality of their wallet before judging on the quality of what other do


I agree! Holy crap u totally nailed them on that one! XD 
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June 27, 2014, 12:22:42 AM
Last edit: June 27, 2014, 12:37:16 AM by Odeyin
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So my thought is: With the white paper describing the FFT process as opposed to S-Box lookup, couldn't we use cuFFT (as a part of the Cuda Toolbox) to elminate the need for any of the S-boxes in the encryption methods, and then change the formula's given for the each hash and run them all through cuFFT. Maybe I am missing something in the math..I probably am, but I think if we could implement this, we could see huge advantages... Yes? No?

I think there is an algo which is already solved through fft (though my understanding of those algo is pretty scarce at the moment)

I checked the code and I am not coming up with any calls for cuFFT. In the SPH simd.c it does use FFT to solve it.  I wonder why we don't use cudaSIMD as well as cuFFT. 

So..I think maybe their are hidden improvements that could be made?
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June 27, 2014, 12:33:13 AM
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Please some help with monero and kepler based cards can't even start the driver crash Windows 8 64 gtx660ti/670 Driver 337.88 I test  -d 0,1 and the  -l options in the forum.
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June 27, 2014, 12:49:42 AM
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we run 3 on a 450W PSU. For six a 650W PSU should be fine. But don't put a 125W AMD CPU on that mainboard, if possible.

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June 27, 2014, 02:56:48 AM
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Please some help with monero and kepler based cards can't even start the driver crash Windows 8 64 gtx660ti/670 Driver 337.88 I test  -d 0,1 and the  -l options in the forum.

There's a reg edit for gpu timeout in the bounty thread. Apply it, restart, and you should be good. It crashes because of the 2 sec timeout. This Regedit fixes that. I'm able to now hash at 350-360 on my 780 ti now with it being able to run 6x120 without a crash. Mine would crash with default 8x40 without the Regedit.

Download it, rename to .reg, double click to apply and restart PC. It's fine and doesn't harm anything from what I can see in testing.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=656841.msg7529269#msg7529269
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June 27, 2014, 03:24:26 AM
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Hey folks - we should respond to these questions regarding tsiv's bounty: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=656841.msg7536834#msg7536834
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I would like to comment briefly on awarding the bounty since I am responsible for the largest pledge (I think).

From what I have seen, tsiv should receive a bounty payment. I'm not sure he should receive the full amount quite yet. (Though I am also not saying he should not.)

I would like to hear public comments on the following points before reaching a conclusion.

My criteria for awarding the bounty are:

1. Quality. Is the miner 100% reliable, or does it crash or hang?

Grin If quality was important, they would never have used cryptonote (most crappy wallet/network usage disk usage, user unfriendliness, etc...)

very picky for such a coin... may-be they should first try to improve the quality of their wallet before judging on the quality of what other do


I agree! Holy crap u totally nailed them on that one! XD 

The bigger issues are, what is the main purpose of currency? If you wanted to save a nest egg..it would be better for you to get a 401-K, but these crypto-note coins have a major major flaw: The Blockchain being downloaded is going over a GB, and the wallet uses a ton of data to uphold the chain. With that being said the flaw is how do you get to mobile? Answer..you can't unless you are willing to spending $$$ in mobile data plans..crypto-note is doomed in my opinion..unless they are able to fix this.
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June 27, 2014, 03:48:20 AM
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Cannot download, please help
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June 27, 2014, 03:55:20 AM
Last edit: June 27, 2014, 05:09:35 AM by cayars
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Please some help with monero and kepler based cards can't even start the driver crash Windows 8 64 gtx660ti/670 Driver 337.88 I test  -d 0,1 and the  -l options in the forum.

There's a reg edit for gpu timeout in the bounty thread. Apply it, restart, and you should be good. It crashes because of the 2 sec timeout. This Regedit fixes that. I'm able to now hash at 350-360 on my 780 ti now with it being able to run 6x120 without a crash. Mine would crash with default 8x40 without the Regedit.

Download it, rename to .reg, double click to apply and restart PC. It's fine and doesn't harm anything from what I can see in testing.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=656841.msg7529269#msg7529269

This old trick doesn't work for any of my kepler cards or rigs which are the 660s with 1152 shaders.  I've re-tried it on Windows 8.1, Windows Server 2012 R2 and Windows 7 32.  No dice for me.

But I'm glad it's working for you!

EDIT: Does work on Windows Server 2012 R2, Windows 8.1 and windows 7 32.  My stupid virus/malware programs were blocking/rolling back the reg changes so they never took affect. Smiley

With the GTX 660s with 1152 shaders I'm getting about 120 H/s running default settings.  Will try playing with settings tomorrow.
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June 27, 2014, 03:57:40 AM
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Hey folks - we should respond to these questions regarding tsiv's bounty: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=656841.msg7536834#msg7536834
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I would like to comment briefly on awarding the bounty since I am responsible for the largest pledge (I think).

From what I have seen, tsiv should receive a bounty payment. I'm not sure he should receive the full amount quite yet. (Though I am also not saying he should not.)

I would like to hear public comments on the following points before reaching a conclusion.

My criteria for awarding the bounty are:

1. Quality. Is the miner 100% reliable, or does it crash or hang?

Grin If quality was important, they would never have used cryptonote (most crappy wallet/network usage disk usage, user unfriendliness, etc...)

very picky for such a coin... may-be they should first try to improve the quality of their wallet before judging on the quality of what other do


I agree! Holy crap u totally nailed them on that one! XD 

The bigger issues are, what is the main purpose of currency? If you wanted to save a nest egg..it would be better for you to get a 401-K, but these crypto-note coins have a major major flaw: The Blockchain being downloaded is going over a GB, and the wallet uses a ton of data to uphold the chain. With that being said the flaw is how do you get to mobile? Answer..you can't unless you are willing to spending $$$ in mobile data plans..crypto-note is doomed in my opinion..unless they are able to fix this.

Currencies like this are going to have to have some type of "remote" payment option.  Ie the interface on phones, tablets and some computers talks back to a server that runs the real wallet and has the blockchain.
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June 27, 2014, 06:57:31 AM
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cudamining.cc is finally back up after lots of messing about

Nice! Is it me or is it loading faster than before? Wink
Also, don't forget to add the cryptonite mod, tsiv has an officially released windows binary on his github  Smiley

Shouldnt be, i havent changed anything other then run a few updates.
It was basically offline because it weighs around 45kg with the usb risers hanging out aswell.
To put a new desk in the room the entire room got ripped to pieces so it had to be moved out the room, the room done, then moved back into the room. Which took a lot longer then expected

I have added the cryptonite mod now so start uploading your configs!

Owner of: cudamining.co.uk
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June 27, 2014, 07:10:49 AM
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we run 3 on a 450W PSU. For six a 650W PSU should be fine. But don't put a 125W AMD CPU on that mainboard, if possible.

Christian

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(Yes I have been lurking, only reading Christians posts lol)

I've been joining or forming various allegiances for different mining projects. :-)

in this case it's the two rigs with 3 gtx 750Ti that I've set up  for a good friend. I am
administering these remotely, he gets the coins.
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June 27, 2014, 08:15:15 AM
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we run 3 on a 450W PSU. For six a 650W PSU should be fine. But don't put a 125W AMD CPU on that mainboard, if possible.

Christian

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(Yes I have been lurking, only reading Christians posts lol)

I've been joining or forming various allegiances for different mining projects. :-)

in this case it's the two rigs with 3 gtx 750Ti that I've set up  for a good friend. I am
administering these remotely, he gets the coins.

You should consider an official hardware rental business Tongue Using your own mining software etc ^^"
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