[ANN][The Original Multipool - Scrypt/SHA256/Scrypt-N/X11] multipool.us

[Zalfrin]

Multiport went down for me, I've switched over to the FTC pool manually and it is still working.

[jdebunt]

yeah stratum on port 7777 has been dropping in & out for the past 12 hours, a real shame

[flound1129]

yeah stratum on port 7777 has been dropping in & out for the past 12 hours, a real shame

This issue should be solved.  The script now checks to see how long we've been mining a particular coin, and if we have more than a threshold (currently 10 minutes), it switches to the new coin immediately.

This should at least partially solve the 'flapping' issues we've been having where the port switches between two coins because of very minute changes in price.

I'm also working on a much more robust price determination algorithm that will use averages from multiple sites.  Of course, it doesn't help that vircurex, btc-e, and bter are all down right now.

[flound1129]

Someone brought up this idea in IRC today, would anyone be interested (enough to pay for) a 'personal' multiport, where you could select the coins you wanted to mine?

[skyhigh2004]

Someone brought up this idea in IRC today, would anyone be interested (enough to pay for) a 'personal' multiport, where you could select the coins you wanted to mine?

I would be interested in something like this.  I would love to just multiport a few of the coins and not all that you offer.  Would I be interested enough to pay for it?  No as I can just close cgminer and start another .bat file for free and a few secs of my time per machine after I check the markets every thirty mins or so.

[ranlo]

Someone brought up this idea in IRC today, would anyone be interested (enough to pay for) a 'personal' multiport, where you could select the coins you wanted to mine?

I think rather than offering it as a service to "pay for," it should be more along the lines of allowing those who set a certain donation percent to use it.

[SpaceCadet]

Someone brought up this idea in IRC today, would anyone be interested (enough to pay for) a 'personal' multiport, where you could select the coins you wanted to mine?

I think rather than offering it as a service to "pay for," it should be more along the lines of allowing those who set a certain donation percent to use it.

+1

nvc.khore.org uses this idea for access to mining urls reserved for donors.

[Zalfrin]

I wouldn't use it, I'm happy mining whatever is most profitable at the time.

[gnomicide]

Someone brought up this idea in IRC today, would anyone be interested (enough to pay for) a 'personal' multiport, where you could select the coins you wanted to mine?

This was more along the lines of my original pool idea. Each user would be able to toggle checkboxes for each offered coin in their control panel. The switching logic would have to check profitability and the user-coins table every minute (or whatever), and redirect each user as appropriate.

*edit* I'd probably stick with the full selection of coins, and continue converting the ones I don't want to hold onto into BTC.

This issue should be solved.  The script now checks to see how long we've been mining a particular coin, and if we have more than a threshold (currently 10 minutes), it switches to the new coin immediately.

This should at least partially solve the 'flapping' issues we've been having where the port switches between two coins because of very minute changes in price.

Hysteresis is good. You could just set a minimum difference between current coin's profitability and the best one before switching. Ex. Currently on FTC @ 1.60, LTC starts to climb higher, but we don't swap until it hits 1.65 (minimum 0.05 delta). Then we wouldn't go back to FTC until it reaches 1.70 (or LTC drops back down to 1.55).

[B.T.Coin]

When I look at the 'pool stats' and then at the 'top 10 hashers' I see that someone with half my hashrate gets 4 times as much valid shares.
How is this possible? Will he also get 4 times the payout per round that I get?

Edit: As the round progresses, his valid shares get less and mine increase. So I guess it's because of the PPLNS system and him being on LTC all the time and me being on the multiport that just switched to LTC. Does this mean that when the multiport switches away from LTC, I will still get LTC shares if the next LTC round is a quick lucky one?

[jdebunt]

glad to see some of the minor issues being worked on

i love the multi-coin system, but i wouldn't mind dropping NVC in favor for another coin, or even MNC for another coin, but besides that, i'm a pretty happy miner

[skyhigh2004]

glad to see some of the minor issues being worked on

i love the multi-coin system, but i wouldn't mind dropping NVC in favor for another coin, or even MNC for another coin, but besides that, i'm a pretty happy miner

I also wouldn't mind seeing MNC/NVC disappear from the multiport as it seems like MNC is only profitable for a few mins a day which only takes away from the actually profitable coins while we are switching pools.  NVC I don't have a problem with but I really don't like having slower coins mixed with all those faster coins in the same multi port.  I know if I use the same cgminer configs for LTC and MNC one is gonna get way more stales/rejects than it should due to them running better with different settings.  That's why I have been staying away from using the multi port all together and have manually been switching pools. 

[gnomicide]

When I look at the 'pool stats' and then at the 'top 10 hashers' I see that someone with half my hashrate gets 4 times as much valid shares.
How is this possible? Will he also get 4 times the payout per round that I get?

Edit: As the round progresses, his valid shares get less and mine increase. So I guess it's because of the PPLNS system and him being on LTC all the time and me being on the multiport that just switched to LTC. Does this mean that when the multiport switches away from LTC, I will still get LTC shares if the next LTC round is a quick lucky one?

You'll get credited for your accepted shares when the pool finds its next LTC block, however long it takes and whatever you mine (if anything) in the mean time.

[davidkassa]

Someone brought up this idea in IRC today, would anyone be interested (enough to pay for) a 'personal' multiport, where you could select the coins you wanted to mine?

I recently just found your pool because I started coding a very similar idea. The approach I was taking, that you might consider, was to use cgminer api to toggle pools on the clients. Then each client can have their own individual currency list and advanced features such as "profitability threshold". You could also then shutdown cgminer and use a cool trick to toggle between sha256 and scrypt. There's also value added for having a remote cgminer monitor.

[SpaceCadet]

When I look at the 'pool stats' and then at the 'top 10 hashers' I see that someone with half my hashrate gets 4 times as much valid shares.
How is this possible? Will he also get 4 times the payout per round that I get?

Edit: As the round progresses, his valid shares get less and mine increase. So I guess it's because of the PPLNS system and him being on LTC all the time and me being on the multiport that just switched to LTC. Does this mean that when the multiport switches away from LTC, I will still get LTC shares if the next LTC round is a quick lucky one?

You'll get credited for your accepted shares when the pool finds its next LTC block, however long it takes and whatever you mine (if anything) in the mean time.

While it's true you will get credited, there are cases (especially with LTC) when the round shares for a block can exceed the N in PPLNS and some of your shares might roll off and not get credited.  That's why I've been avoiding the multiport.  My hash rate is far from stellar so I can't afford to lose what I get to an extra long round!

[kslavik]

Someone brought up this idea in IRC today, would anyone be interested (enough to pay for) a 'personal' multiport, where you could select the coins you wanted to mine?

I recently just found your pool because I started coding a very similar idea. The approach I was taking, that you might consider, was to use cgminer api to toggle pools on the clients. Then each client can have their own individual currency list and advanced features such as "profitability threshold". You could also then shutdown cgminer and use a cool trick to toggle between sha256 and scrypt. There's also value added for having a remote cgminer monitor.

I'm already working on it. I will release a version for SHA256 in couple of days, and then sometimes later a version for scrypt as well if there is enough interest for it. I'm already switching between BTC and TRC with it.

[Kinetic915]

question.  Would it be more profitable to pick a "winning" alt coin of your choice and mine that specifically?  Or jump around to different/ currently popular alt coins when difficulty changes etc etc.

[jdebunt]

question.  Would it be more profitable to pick a "winning" alt coin of your choice and mine that specifically?  Or jump around to different/ currently popular alt coins when difficulty changes etc etc.

well i find the multiport to be switching quite regulary to MNC, due to low payouts because of 2 MNC per block, which is pretty useless, or today, to NVC, which is useless aswell, because it takes ages to hit a block

the problem is, most people use multiport, so they can either be a positive influence for your payouts, or it can draw a lot of hashpower from the coin you're mining on

[Jazkal]

What happened in the last LTC round? nothing shows under uncomfirmed, and it didn't carry over to confirmed.

[captainfuture]

ltc value went up at btc-e last hour and we still mining nvc...