Casinobit - LIVE ROULETTE - [INVEST] - BEST CASINO OF 2013

[g83]

We are up. Investing now works with 4 decimals instead of 2.

The best time to invest ATM, the total invested sum is relatively low.

Are you trying to get new investments in order to cover pending withdrawals? Isn't that exactly the way PONZI scams work?

Still waiting on payments

3 Days ago, I'm trying to withdraw 10BTC, however the Withdraw button simply has a load bar, then does nothing?

But my account had been emptied. It show 0 BTC till now.

And no coins come back to my wallet till now,  3 days pasted,  i mailto support@casinobit.net, but no reply for me?

Anyone like me?

Investment tab is working and balances shows up in my account again - withdraw still not possible. Think they're still workin' on it..

+1

[g83]

HOW CAN YOU SAY THE SITE IS UP WHEN THE MOST IMPORTANT FUNCTION WITHDRAW DOES NOT WORK ??

[vlees]

Who is running Casinobit? Name of the people in charge? Registered company?

On August 9, he moved the WhoIs to GoDaddy's DomainsByProxy.com service. (quite suspicious)
Luckily I have an old version available:

Max Tsarenko (Email itsmemax@yandex.ru)
+972.0526657945 (a Cellcom Mobile phonenumber in Israel)
Fax:
Moav 44/2
Arad, None 89032
IL

His new server is hosted by ovh.net

His old server was hosted by http://www.iomarthosting.com/ in the datacenter of http://rapidswitch.com/ (related to http://www.eleven2.com/) but this is unrelated now since he moved.

[g83]

Ok so he decided to hide this information to scam us here - if withdraw is not possible today or i get a manual refund i will start a short legal action,
we have two lawyers in our family

[vlees]

Also weird: the phonenumber and country further down (IL) are both from Israel, yet he uses a yandex.RU emailaddress...

[Rampion]

I for one do not understand how is it possible that people is willing to send their hard earned money to anonymous people on the interwebz that run very-likely-to-be-ponzi business schemes.

Trendon's BS&T is the classical example in here, long time members cooperated with him despite being an obvious scam simply because of the unbelievable returns, and there are only two options: a) complete financial illiteracy or b) plain and simple greed lead people to "play" the ponzi game becoming Pirate's fellow scammers, as they gave credit to his scam and in fact funneled third party funds to his scheme.

Unfortunately in the Pirate's case only possible option is b), as the long term members running PT's and such were "illustrated" regarding how that scheme could only be a ponzi from the very beginning and with undeniable hard facts, and this applies also to Patrick Hornett and the likes who where praised and defended till the very end despite being obvious scams. Story repeats itself over and over...

[vlees]

If this is a Ponzi, he could've earned more though.

From Wikipedia:
"Promoters also try to minimize withdrawals by offering new plans to investors, often where money is frozen for a longer period of time, in exchange for higher returns. The promoter sees new cash flows as investors are told they cannot transfer money from the first plan to the second. If a few investors do wish to withdraw their money in accordance with the terms allowed, their requests are usually promptly processed, which gives the illusion to all other investors that the fund is solvent."

[Rampion]

Keep in mind ponzis can come from incompetence. You lose money, but want to keep the things running.

Still a ponzi.

[Maidak]

Unable to withdrawal my 0.4 btc going to send a private message regarding it.

[g83]

Unable to withdrawal my 0.4 btc going to send a private message regarding it.

I am waiting for 40.8251 BTC - no reaction to pm anymore

[CasinoBit]

Operation Redpill

On August 17, 2013, 02:10:08 PM, 001sonkit, a 17 year old teenager claimed that Casinobit is a ponzi scheme and sent unsolicited messages to members that hold large amounts of BTC invested urging them to divest and withdraw.

During that time he sent an additional 59.9999BTC (2013-08-17 04:28:01) to his deposit address 1EjtPkTp7vuD53EWVpBhxLTowzBDACDXds bringing his balance to 98.9400122BTC and investing the whole sum during the lowest Bankroll period giving him a large portion of the earnings. 001sonkit then withdrew 110BTC from his account and identical, analogous accounts after 2 days from the same IP bringing him dozens of BTC in profit.

The IP of the con man 001sonkit is 124.14.4.13, he is located in China, Beijing.

[g83]

Operation Redpill

On August 17, 2013, 02:10:08 PM, 001sonkit, a 17 year old teenager claimed that Casinobit is a ponzi scheme and sent unsolicited messages to members that hold large amounts of BTC invested urging them to divest and withdraw.

During that time he sent an additional 59.9999BTC (2013-08-17 04:28:01) to his deposit address 1EjtPkTp7vuD53EWVpBhxLTowzBDACDXds bringing his balance to 98.9400122BTC and investing the whole sum during the lowest Bankroll period giving him a large portion of the earnings. 001sonkit then withdrew 110BTC from this account and identical, analogous accounts from the same IP.

The IP of the con man 001sonkit is 124.14.4.13, he is located in China, Beijing.

What do you want to say with that ? Not able to handle payouts

[vlees]

Operation Redpill

On August 17, 2013, 02:10:08 PM, 001sonkit, a 17 year old teenager claimed that Casinobit is a ponzi scheme and sent unsolicited messages to members that hold large amounts of BTC invested urging them to divest and withdraw.

During that time he sent an additional 59.9999BTC (2013-08-17 04:28:01) to his deposit address 1EjtPkTp7vuD53EWVpBhxLTowzBDACDXds bringing his balance to 98.9400122BTC and investing the whole sum during the lowest Bankroll period giving him a large portion of the earnings. 001sonkit then withdrew 110BTC from this account and identical, analogous accounts from the same IP.

The IP of the con man 001sonkit is 124.14.4.13, he is located in China, Beijing.

What do you want to say with that ? Not able to handle payouts

He claims that post is the debunking of this being a ponzi.
I don't see how. I would love to see a real debunking though.

[CasinoBit]

What do you want to say with that ? Not able to handle payouts

I want to say that the whole ponzi claim is a scam which turned out to be highly profitable for the 001sonkit. Why would someone claim ponzi and invest himself immediately? The fact that we are bombarded by people demanding withdrawals and scammers doesn't have anything to do with it, before we can process a withdraw we need to check the account and so on.

[CasinoBit]

CasinoBit, you might not be doing a ponzi, but you are certainly not handling the things very nicely.

Again: public/verifiable stats, fix bugs, make the site clearer to use.

We have public/verifiable stats, there are little to no bugs and making the site clearer is low in priority atm.

[001sonkit]

What do you want to say with that ? Not able to handle payouts

I want to say that the whole ponzi claim is a scam which turned out to be highly profitable for the 001sonkit. Why would someone claim ponzi and invest himself immediately? The fact that we are bombarded by people demanding withdrawals and scammers doesn't have anything to do with it, before we can process a withdraw we need to check the account and so on.

Coz when i started to know you are a ponzi owner by studying how the balance fluctualte, the first reaction is to keep my coins safe, next is to tell everyone. simple logic

[g83]

CasinoBit, you might not be doing a ponzi, but you are certainly not handling the things very nicely.

Again: public/verifiable stats, fix bugs, make the site clearer to use.

We have public/verifiable stats, there are little to no bugs and making the site clearer is low in priority atm.

Little to no bugs ? Your fucking withdraw does not work ! Thats a main part of your buggy site dude

[g83]

What do you want to say with that ? Not able to handle payouts

I want to say that the whole ponzi claim is a scam which turned out to be highly profitable for the 001sonkit. Why would someone claim ponzi and invest himself immediately? The fact that we are bombarded by people demanding withdrawals and scammers doesn't have anything to do with it, before we can process a withdraw we need to check the account and so on.

Coz when i started to know you are a ponzi owner by studying how the balance fluctualte, the first reaction is to keep my coins safe, next is to tell everyone. simple logic

+1

[CasinoBit]

Little to no bugs ? Your fucking withdraw does not work ! Thats a main part of your buggy site dude

That's why I haven't said that there are no bugs at all.

Coz when i started to know you are a ponzi owner by studying how the balance fluctualte, the first reaction is to keep my coins safe, next is to tell everyone. simple logic

But you didn't, you've just told everyone and invested yourself.

[001sonkit]

Little to no bugs ? Your fucking withdraw does not work ! Thats a main part of your buggy site dude

That's why I haven't said that there are no bugs at all.

Coz when i started to know you are a ponzi owner by studying how the balance fluctualte, the first reaction is to keep my coins safe, next is to tell everyone. simple logic

But you didn't, you've just told everyone and invested yourself.

Why would I still invest when i have knew that it is a friggin ponzi heh?