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January 11, 2017, 05:32:31 PM
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You Sell.  Wink




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January 11, 2017, 07:16:57 PM
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If you never try. Not only if you sell btc but general in real life too. You never know what will happen if... Try to do something new but be careful. That's all, and that's my motto, as well Wink
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January 11, 2017, 07:22:11 PM
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Definitely especially when people had bought Bitcoin at $1000 plus.

I took a nap then when I woke up I saw Bitcoin at sub $800 price.  Almost touching sub $700.  I wonder what is happening.  Bitcoin looks strong at $850 - $910 range before I nap. Is this another whale manipulation riding the China Government "concern"  announcement?
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January 11, 2017, 07:30:43 PM
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Well the current price is still a decent price to considered. Remember exact 2 years ago today, the price was around $260. Although it's a loss for those who bought at around $1,000 recently, they can make up with that loss soon. Don't eye for profits right now for those person involved on that buyers at around $1,000. Just hold and hold and put up some extra ammos to buy again for more while hugging the price decrease scenario.

That is really easy to say but hard to done but let's look at the brighter side of the picture. People entered the bitcoin world of trading so expect a trend like this.

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January 11, 2017, 07:37:51 PM
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$1000 was the time to sell, right now, it may not be a good idea, we may be near the new bottom.

Of course, it's easy to speak after things have happened, but everyone thought that we were going to go to $1500-$2000 in the last rise. And we didn't, so now here we are, trying to guess if the current floor has already been reached or not.

It's impossible to know, so have fun gambling. Since im here long term, i'll hold.
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January 11, 2017, 07:56:24 PM
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IF you follow the sheep and get eaten up by fudsters. I have always said it that technical, fundamental analysis is good but the most important thing is the mental analysis of traders.
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January 11, 2017, 11:32:54 PM
Last edit: January 11, 2017, 11:43:27 PM by JeffBrad12
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You Sell.  Wink



The best time for to do now. More HODL and more lose. I sold them over $1100. How lucky me.

If the other bad news will be coming.
The HODL will get the another lost. For those people trade bitcoin right now.


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January 12, 2017, 12:12:58 AM
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No, not really. If you bought it lower than the price today, I think it's still okay if you sell. However, if it's higher, I do think that an option for you to get back your losses is to trade it with altcoin. That's what I'm doing and it's working fine. Just be careful though and be patient.
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January 12, 2017, 01:39:32 AM
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I always sell my bitcoin i don't care if i lose about the price if its getting higher nor bigger i need money for my daily expenses on school i always pay my tuition fee to take examination i can't afford to lose my education this is the only way where i can find a descent job.
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January 12, 2017, 01:55:49 AM
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I always sell my bitcoin i don't care if i lose about the price if its getting higher nor bigger i need money for my daily expenses on school i always pay my tuition fee to take examination i can't afford to lose my education this is the only way where i can find a descent job.
I agree for you sir! It's just a matter of priority in terms of selling bitcoin with lower price, Because we earn bitcoin or digital goods for our personal use so it's just a matter of situation when you will sell bitcoin. In terms with you sir you sell bitcoin with lower price because for your education so that is not loss that is actually win for you because you can cash out or sell bitcoin when you need it. So in overall selling with the lower price is not a loss it is the holder to decide if he or she win or loss Smiley
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January 12, 2017, 02:39:05 AM
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Definitely especially when people had bought Bitcoin at $1000 plus.

I took a nap then when I woke up I saw Bitcoin at sub $800 price.  Almost touching sub $700.  I wonder what is happening.  Bitcoin looks strong at $850 - $910 range before I nap. Is this another whale manipulation riding the China Government "concern"  announcement?
I think it was manipulation by using the news the Chinese government was inspecting 3 different exchanges and then spinning the news to create FUD saying it was a raid or something and I think that is why the price crashed.
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January 12, 2017, 05:30:31 AM
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No, not really. If you bought it lower than the price today, I think it's still okay if you sell. However, if it's higher, I do think that an option for you to get back your losses is to trade it with altcoin. That's what I'm doing and it's working fine. Just be careful though and be patient.
Yes you're right, maybe if bought at a cheaper price than this would still get some profit. But I'm sure they will regret because when prices are still high they did not buy Cheesy But I think OP speak right, buying when the market goes down it's not good because it does not get the full profit. I also agree with you, trade altcoin is the right way to get profit back. If I might hold until prices rise again.
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January 12, 2017, 05:47:47 AM
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i don't know if it was intentional or just an honest mistake but what you say and what your picture show are two completely different things!
you show a sinking ship and write hodl on top of it! bitcoin is far from a sinking ship my friend. if anything bitcoin is a rocket with too many kids on it who are sucking its fuel out and giving that fuel to the big whales so they can put that fuel in, after a while when they had enough fuel accumulated.

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January 12, 2017, 07:17:17 AM
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i don't know if it was intentional or just an honest mistake but what you say and what your picture show are two completely different things!
you show a sinking ship and write hodl on top of it! bitcoin is far from a sinking ship my friend. if anything bitcoin is a rocket with too many kids on it who are sucking its fuel out and giving that fuel to the big whales so they can put that fuel in, after a while when they had enough fuel accumulated.

I think what the image is implying is that we should "hodl" or hold even if it looks like the boat is sinking. Thus the image of a sinking boat with the word "hodl" on it. Relating this to the title and the first sentence of the OP, which is actually the continuation of the title. The whole sentence would be "You only lose if you sell." Hence, what OP is implying is that we should hold even if we see that the prices are sinking or going down. Because the moment you give in to the selling panic and frenzy that is when you will lose money.
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January 12, 2017, 07:42:10 AM
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it what i'm doing since 2014 with my stash, just hold in cold storage, but it's also true that by selling at the peak, and it was not that difficult this time

you could have made more money buying back right now, instead of just letting your bitcoin in cold storage
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January 12, 2017, 09:18:40 AM
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There is no specific right time to sell even when you are trading in forex you need to remember one thing that is once you get profit on your investment is really a good thing, if you look for higher margin than definitely you will loose your investment also. That's why you must plan before the price increases.
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January 12, 2017, 01:32:58 PM
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You only lose if you are quitting in the middle, you wont be consider as a loser if you sell, when you do trading you need to buy and sell to earn profit, even if you are losing profit then it wont be consider as failure, you can consider it as a lesson
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January 12, 2017, 01:47:08 PM
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I bought bitcoin when the price was 750$. I keep them in my wallet, I never think I lost something, because trade is not game little patient and everything will be ok. So don't worry, I hope the price will be back in 1000$ soon)

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January 12, 2017, 01:54:12 PM
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HODL all the way OP, I am holding bitcoin since it was $250 last year well i did sell a little, but mostly I am holding and i dont intend to sell it anytime soon i would only sell if miraculously somehow bitcoin reached $10,000 or more tomorrow  Cheesy
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I am holding the coins since it was $450, but that doesn't mean I am not selling them.
I sell the only part that I need in extra to add some more fun to my life, the other part that I have been saving for future, is the part that I am not going to sell until I see the best price for it.

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January 12, 2017, 07:16:38 PM
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I was starting to buy bitcoins when price was about $500. I am not in loss. Today I bought again in order to support the price so as to help bitcoin to recover again. I don't mind if the price recovers slowly. I prefer more stability and small fluctuations. "Sky rockets" and "to the moon" are easily go to the "dip to the bottom of the sea". To my way of thinking people they had bought last week of previous year when price was $1000 or more have to buy more coins not only to reduce their loss but support coins have already in their own. They must see these days not as panic selling but as a chance to buy cheap coins
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January 12, 2017, 09:41:51 PM
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You are right at the time when the price started to low from $1000 then I though that once again a time to hold our coins came as if in this lower price if someone will sell then he will only lose and will regret in the future if he will see once again the price at high value.
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January 12, 2017, 11:17:07 PM
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As you may realize, that unexpected jump to +$1100 was a sporadic event, and the price of bitcoin returned to the level it was before the storm unleashed when breaking the psychological barrier of $800.

I would wait for the price of bitcoin to resume the gradual and consistent grow that we had seen for several months before that event, so I think it is a good idea to hold right now, and even to accumulate more coins.
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January 13, 2017, 05:05:49 AM
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in bitcoin world i was so fear if the price jump with very fast because i'm pretty sure there will be huge dump after that and some people maybe regret their decission because did not sell when the price $1100 because thought the price will continue to rise but unfortunately huge dump was already happening but i still not lost yet because still holding my bitcoin 
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January 13, 2017, 06:03:12 AM
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I didn't understand rightly why bitcoin price is keep go down deeply. May be there is someone who managed the exchanges with big power (stok bitcoin balance), is possible china who 'play this game' because china has great power on bitcoin.

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January 13, 2017, 06:09:09 AM
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i will hold it until i see the price is reach more than $1500, because i think i don't buy bitcoin for now and i have a stock in my wallet and i think i will wait. maybe some of us is buying bitcoin when the price is more than $1000 and makes them to sell it because they think they can get loss. i think it is a good time for us to buy bitcoin before the price gets increase soon.



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As you may realize, that unexpected jump to +$1100 was a sporadic event, and the price of bitcoin returned to the level it was before the storm unleashed when breaking the psychological barrier of $800.
 
I would wait for the price of bitcoin to resume the gradual and consistent grow that we had seen for several months before that event, so I think it is a good idea to hold right now, and even to accumulate more coins.
Me too, traders will for sure think the same way, wait until it is in stable growing, we must not be hurry of doing so because it still getting high and low. Better invest or hold it on.  Bitcoin is the future and if you hold, you will never ever lose.









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January 13, 2017, 02:43:44 PM
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i will hold it until i see the price is reach more than $1500, because i think i don't buy bitcoin for now and i have a stock in my wallet and i think i will wait. maybe some of us is buying bitcoin when the price is more than $1000 and makes them to sell it because they think they can get loss. i think it is a good time for us to buy bitcoin before the price gets increase soon.

How you can said that the price of bitcoin will gets increase soon, can you guarantee of that ? Even i don't think that bitcoin increase the price until 1500 dollars in near future.

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January 13, 2017, 06:46:01 PM
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I am holding the coins since it was $450, but that doesn't mean I am not selling them.
I sell the only part that I need in extra to add some more fun to my life, the other part that I have been saving for future, is the part that I am not going to sell until I see the best price for it.

$450 was a good entry point, it's not going to get that low. It will probably stay within the 600-900 range for a long time... after all the chinese fuckery ends, I expect we will climb FAST again since the fears of a fake chinese huge market will be vanished.
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January 13, 2017, 07:08:51 PM
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As you may realize, that unexpected jump to +$1100 was a sporadic event, and the price of bitcoin returned to the level it was before the storm unleashed when breaking the psychological barrier of $800.
 
I would wait for the price of bitcoin to resume the gradual and consistent grow that we had seen for several months before that event, so I think it is a good idea to hold right now, and even to accumulate more coins.
Me too, traders will for sure think the same way, wait until it is in stable growing, we must not be hurry of doing so because it still getting high and low. Better invest or hold it on.  Bitcoin is the future and if you hold, you will never ever lose.
There is no assurance in an investment. We can't say if it will still go back into $1000. Yet, I'm hopong for that because I am also holding bitcoins. Traders really affects the bitcoin, they can make it low and high. As long as the volume of btc being trade is not going down, we should never worry. 
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January 13, 2017, 07:22:49 PM
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You are right at the time when the price started to low from $1000 then I though that once again a time to hold our coins came as if in this lower price if someone will sell then he will only lose and will regret in the future if he will see once again the price at high value.
yes i also think so. to me i think the price of bitcoin do not have to wait here for a long time and very soon the price of bitcoin is going so high. hope that in in next few day bitcoin is going to ma new record.
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January 13, 2017, 07:33:58 PM
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As you may realize, that unexpected jump to +$1100 was a sporadic event, and the price of bitcoin returned to the level it was before the storm unleashed when breaking the psychological barrier of $800.
 
I would wait for the price of bitcoin to resume the gradual and consistent grow that we had seen for several months before that event, so I think it is a good idea to hold right now, and even to accumulate more coins.
Me too, traders will for sure think the same way, wait until it is in stable growing, we must not be hurry of doing so because it still getting high and low. Better invest or hold it on.  Bitcoin is the future and if you hold, you will never ever lose.
Yes I think this the right time to buy bitcoin because I think this month the price of bitcoin will turn into $1000+ like last week.
Like me I bought bitcoin before with the low price but I cannot sell them I wait the higher price that I want. If I sell it now my money are double but I don't want I wait my target . just hold our bitcoin and then wait to increase the price . be patient good news is coming and you will be happy for what the result. Like we said "patience is virtue" . don't be panic if the bitcoin goes down you make happy because you can buy more .

 
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January 14, 2017, 07:15:57 AM
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January 14, 2017, 08:25:47 AM
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Yes you lose if you sell, but as of now I buy bitcoin  and Im hoping bitcoin price will recover it. Though we can say in any investment its a risk. Yet, I will still hold my bitcoin as I believe it will rise again. I believe it will. Lets wactch and observe the price it may come.
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January 14, 2017, 09:37:24 AM
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i will hold it until i see the price is reach more than $1500, because i think i don't buy bitcoin for now and i have a stock in my wallet and i think i will wait. maybe some of us is buying bitcoin when the price is more than $1000 and makes them to sell it because they think they can get loss. i think it is a good time for us to buy bitcoin before the price gets increase soon.

Actually it's depends on personal itself, for when the investment run, means how much years. If wants bitcoin as investment now, then buy now, because the price movement trend recently become more stable.
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You lose if you panic on trading, there is no stable currency in trading. The more you panic the more you lose. Panic includes panic buying and panic selling. When you thought that the currency you are trading is going down for real. "PLAY SONG". Then you suddenly do the panic selling below the current price that you bought it, then you lose your money. Thats a simple way to lose money.

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January 14, 2017, 12:59:50 PM
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You only loses if you sell, If you did not sell you will keep losing and the probability of the market keep moving down or up is uncertain. The traders that bought bitcoin at $1,000 or above should know that financial markets is highly unpredictable and that is why the should have trading money management principle in place in other to get out of trade if the market is going against you and drive the trend if it's going in your favour. Uncertainty from the discussion with the central bank of china is not what is affecting the market but the market technical cycle.
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Yes you lose if you sell, but as of now I buy bitcoin  and Im hoping bitcoin price will recover it. Though we can say in any investment its a risk. Yet, I will still hold my bitcoin as I believe it will rise again. I believe it will. Lets wactch and observe the price it may come.
Yes, this is not the right time to book profits nor a time for coming out of bitcoin markets.

It must be a right time to buy more bitcoins. I believe we are getting another chances of our lifetime to enter into bitcoins below $1000 price levels. Definitely we will lose if we sell right now, at the same time if we buy more then we can easily generate more profits in quick time.

Yes, bitcoin prices are going to bounce back along with new US policies.
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Sometimes you lose sometimes you win, that is how it is in Bitcoin world. But you have to set up your goals and limits and stick to it. If you invest in Bitcoin you have to be aware of risk, learn a lot about market and monitor it carefuly. And don't be discouraged every time when things are not how you plan it because situation is changing constantly and eventualy you will also win.

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January 15, 2017, 07:31:09 PM
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I am holding the coins since it was $450, but that doesn't mean I am not selling them.
I sell the only part that I need in extra to add some more fun to my life, the other part that I have been saving for future, is the part that I am not going to sell until I see the best price for it.

$450 was a good entry point, it's not going to get that low. It will probably stay within the 600-900 range for a long time... after all the chinese fuckery ends, I expect we will climb FAST again since the fears of a fake chinese huge market will be vanished.
i think there is nothing wrong in the market, everything is going smooth and to me i think it is just a market correction and after that we can expect a great increase in  the price of bitcoin and we do not have to wait for it for a long time.
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I agree that selling at this point will more likely bring you losses when you buy your Bitcoin at 1k plus.  I would say to wait for bitcoin to recover and pass the amount you bought your bitcoin.  That way you can be sure that you are in a positive ROI anytime you wanted to sell your Bitcoin.
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Keeping too might even be a loss because I know guys that are holding not because they are winning but because they lost as a result of not able to sell at the time when the all time high was reached recently thinking it will get to $2000 by mid February as someone has predicted so whether I hold or I sell, since the future is uncertain then I should be able to live with the consequences of my action and that's the only thing that matters after all.
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Sometimes you lose sometimes you win, that is how it is in Bitcoin world. But you have to set up your goals and limits and stick to it. If you invest in Bitcoin you have to be aware of risk, learn a lot about market and monitor it carefuly. And don't be discouraged every time when things are not how you plan it because situation is changing constantly and eventualy you will also win.
Indeed, having bitcoin is a risky job, actually not just bitcoin everything in life has risks, so if we want to live we have to keep moving forward even if we lose and bitcoin is no different, and if you want to be successful in this business you have to have goals and determine the right time to exchange.
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Keeping too might even be a loss because I know guys that are holding not because they are winning but because they lost as a result of not able to sell at the time when the all time high was reached recently thinking it will get to $2000 by mid February as someone has predicted so whether I hold or I sell, since the future is uncertain then I should be able to live with the consequences of my action and that's the only thing that matters after all.
There are some situations where you need to recognize that there is a high risk that price may fall. In recent weeks, there had been a number of signs involving China indicating that this could happen, and in fact, the price fell sharply, from more than one thousand to below eight hundred dollars. It is important to identify the factors that lead to this, and sell when necessary to avoid losses.
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thinking it will get to $2000 by mid February as someone has predicted so whether I hold or I sell
Where was the prediction coming from? You will be seeing the fact about the Chinese FUD will keep the price of bitcoin is stable ASAP.

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January 16, 2017, 04:07:14 AM
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thinking it will get to $2000 by mid February as someone has predicted so whether I hold or I sell
Where was the prediction coming from? You will be seeing the fact about the Chinese FUD will keep the price of bitcoin is stable ASAP.
Those predictions come from experts and experience. I can ensure that the peices will soon return to its path and it will reach $2000 in February. The chineae investors will invest their money in the cryptocurrency industry right after the Lunar New Year. Be patient guys. Bitcoin will live for long
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thinking it will get to $2000 by mid February as someone has predicted so whether I hold or I sell
Where was the prediction coming from? You will be seeing the fact about the Chinese FUD will keep the price of bitcoin is stable ASAP.
I think the FUD will continue because there are people trying to make money out of it. But the fact is that the price of Bitcoin is increasingly difficult to be controlled by a small group of people. The market is much larger, there is a greater trading volume and there are many exchages working seriously, so that events like those that happened a few years ago, in the time of Mt. Gox, become more difficult to happen again.

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January 16, 2017, 04:57:43 AM
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You only lose if you buy at high rate and sell when down rate  Tongue
In trading, We often don't have the patience when prices suddenly dropped.
Be patient if you won't lose your trading.  Wink
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January 16, 2017, 05:05:52 AM
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You Sell.  Wink


You only lose if you sell for a loss, if you sell for a profit then you can wait to buy again for a lower price and keep on winning since at some point you need to sell to materialize your profits.
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When it comes of making 'TRYING" something or doing a "DECISION", these two words most often that we people became negative first in something we did not doing it yet. Because of having a fear of Trying and making a Decision, on which always happen too that repentance comes at the last. So the result we LOSE or we are LOSER.
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January 16, 2017, 06:44:42 AM
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You only lose if you buy at high rate and sell when down rate  Tongue
In trading, We often don't have the patience when prices suddenly dropped.
Be patient if you won't lose your trading.  Wink
Patience would really be an issue regarding on trading specially on some people doesnt like to suffer much losses.Like seeing the example for those people who bought at $1k price then price suddenly dropped at $740+ then besides bitcoins price tends to go down gradually they will sell of to cut loses but still considered as a lose thats why some clever people tend to hold no matter what because they believe on bitcoin to rise back its price again.

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January 17, 2017, 12:47:05 AM
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I always sell my bitcoin i don't care if i lose about the price if its getting higher nor bigger i need money for my daily expenses on school i always pay my tuition fee to take examination i can't afford to lose my education this is the only way where i can find a descent job.
That is fine but you may lose the opportunity to gain a lot of profit when prices get higher like in the last bubble but there is nothing wrong in itself in what you are doing but if possible find other income streams you can take advantage of the price fluctuations.
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January 17, 2017, 02:06:14 AM
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You Sell.  Wink


You only lose if you sell for a loss, if you sell for a profit then you can wait to buy again for a lower price and keep on winning since at some point you need to sell to materialize your profits.

it is what we should do in trading and many of us will advice that we need to buy low and sell high, but the reality, if someone is stuck in high price, then that person is getting panic when he watch that the price is down. and the only that person think is selling the bitcoin rather than he wait for another increasing price.
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You Sell.  Wink


Cheesy it is nice imagination, i will be lose on condition where  the price is trend down for long term be hold and of course losing if i sell it. Usually i sell position because it is trend down for long time and i use strategy short term investment becoming scalper short taking profit and it was worked at least on my strategy.  Wink
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How can we loose if we sell them at higher price. Don't look for higher margins in the trading definitely you loose all your money, you need to be more accurate when you are in trading because trading will not give you always profit only if you are good enough at it. You need to sell them at right time in order to make profit on your investment.

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Panic panic. The panic sell is trending now. Most people think the price will drop down and down and don't think it can be bouncing.
This is an advantage of bitcoin, it's better than forex reading. There is no margin call if the price drop until $1.

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You only lose if you sell when you don't really need the cash but unfortunately the big and the small miners sell 90% if not all of what they are mining daily, what they don't realize is the fact that by the next halving bitcoin price rises slowly up to $2800, so basically it's more of an investment than a currency.

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Not all the time, it depends on the situation. You sell when there's a need to sell and you must dump when there's no sense of still holding it. We need to educate ourselves so whatever we do will have a relevant basis, reading accurate news will make us do the right decision.

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January 17, 2017, 08:11:49 AM
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Not all the time, it depends on the situation. You sell when there's a need to sell and you must dump when there's no sense of still holding it. We need to educate ourselves so whatever we do will have a relevant basis, reading accurate news will make us do the right decision.
Identifying the relevant situation is more important for a perfect trading decisions, yet we never need to get panic for bitcoin trading as every traders there will be getting second chances always.
Selling some Bitcoins for our needs is inevitable whereas dumping is not at all necessary as long as we will be having hope on bitcoin ecosystem.
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January 17, 2017, 09:49:39 AM
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You Sell.  Wink


Cheesy it is nice imagination, i will be lose on condition where  the price is trend down for long term be hold and of course losing if i sell it. Usually i sell position because it is trend down for long time and i use strategy short term investment becoming scalper short taking profit and it was worked at least on my strategy.  Wink

i think you could prepare to sell now because when i see on poloniex, the price is getting up and many traders will prepare their bitcoin to sold, but i don't know how high the price will go up. i think it is better to make an order sell in a certain range because we don't want to just waiting without doing anything so i hope you can get profit with your bitcoin.



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selling with a lost for sure is not good for anyone who knows the thrill those who's doing it are the newcomers that doing some panics when market start showing to fall, but those who are familiar with how bitcoin works and how the market moves surely will wait for there advantage holding until they are in a good gain.

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selling with a lost for sure is not good for anyone who knows the thrill those who's doing it are the newcomers that doing some panics when market start showing to fall, but those who are familiar with how bitcoin works and how the market moves surely will wait for there advantage holding until they are in a good gain.

selling with loss is different from panic selling.
sometimes you make mistakes and buy when it was not a good time, or because you wanted to take a rather bigger risk and bought on the rise. so you sell when price doesn't move to your expectation at a loss and that is ok as long as you know what you are doing.

but the problems is when people who buy, or invest in anything don't know what they are doing. when they buy into the rise they do it because they are afraid of missing out and then when they sell they are afraid of missing out again! and in this process they only lose money because they don't buy back at bottom.

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not only you sell means you lose how if you get nitcoin for free and you sel them because you in needs and you sell it also in the right pricei always sell my bitcoin because i need it

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January 17, 2017, 07:56:47 PM
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selling with a lost for sure is not good for anyone who knows the thrill those who's doing it are the newcomers that doing some panics when market start showing to fall, but those who are familiar with how bitcoin works and how the market moves surely will wait for there advantage holding until they are in a good gain.
in fact most of the investors have very little knowledge and experience in trading therefore when the price of bitcoin start falling then they start panic selling, which some time cause them a big lost. i think they should first take experience in trading and they they should invest their money .
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How can we loose if we sell them at higher price. Don't look for higher margins in the trading definitely you loose all your money, you need to be more accurate when you are in trading because trading will not give you always profit only if you are good enough at it. You need to sell them at right time in order to make profit on your investment.
I suppose that he means that even if you sell for a profit you lose because you are no longer holding bitcoin, but that is something I disagree since you can wait for the price to get lower and get more bitcoin for the same amount of money.
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selling with a lost for sure is not good for anyone who knows the thrill those who's doing it are the newcomers that doing some panics when market start showing to fall, but those who are familiar with how bitcoin works and how the market moves surely will wait for there advantage holding until they are in a good gain.
in fact most of the investors have very little knowledge and experience in trading therefore when the price of bitcoin start falling then they start panic selling, which some time cause them a big lost. i think they should first take experience in trading and they they should invest their money .

I see, the knowledge of trading a lot of we can get in any groups or Forum of cryptocurrency, slack channel and follow all their twitter.
There are usually traders discuss about what coins are good for in trade.
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selling with a lost for sure is not good for anyone who knows the thrill those who's doing it are the newcomers that doing some panics when market start showing to fall, but those who are familiar with how bitcoin works and how the market moves surely will wait for there advantage holding until they are in a good gain.

selling with loss is different from panic selling.
sometimes you make mistakes and buy when it was not a good time, or because you wanted to take a rather bigger risk and bought on the rise. so you sell when price doesn't move to your expectation at a loss and that is ok as long as you know what you are doing.

but the problems is when people who buy, or invest in anything don't know what they are doing. when they buy into the rise they do it because they are afraid of missing out and then when they sell they are afraid of missing out again! and in this process they only lose money because they don't buy back at bottom.
Correct, there is not a single trader that will get every single trade right, there are going to be some mistakes and you must own to them and suffer losses sometimes, but if you are good you are going to end up earning money out of your trades.
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I'm confident for bitcoin about reach 5x times from current value on 2019 as we know there will be halving and bitcoin demand got higher

So I'm focus to purchase bitcoin every month ( 10-15% ) and keep hold as long as possible

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January 19, 2017, 06:34:55 AM
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selling with a lost for sure is not good for anyone who knows the thrill those who's doing it are the newcomers that doing some panics when market start showing to fall, but those who are familiar with how bitcoin works and how the market moves surely will wait for there advantage holding until they are in a good gain.
in fact most of the investors have very little knowledge and experience in trading therefore when the price of bitcoin start falling then they start panic selling, which some time cause them a big lost. i think they should first take experience in trading and they they should invest their money .

They need to check the potential before selling them even every one has eager to make money in short term but when coming to real time analysis people will panic when the price reducing and create lot of noise in the forum. When you are trading any assets you won't become rich in one day when coming to trading we need to have patience and as well as knowledge.

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Not all the time, it depends on the situation. You sell when there's a need to sell and you must dump when there's no sense of still holding it. We need to educate ourselves so whatever we do will have a relevant basis, reading accurate news will make us do the right decision.
Identifying the relevant situation is more important for a perfect trading decisions, yet we never need to get panic for bitcoin trading as every traders there will be getting second chances always.
Selling some Bitcoins for our needs is inevitable whereas dumping is not at all necessary as long as we will be having hope on bitcoin ecosystem.
It is true that spending bitcoin is something that we have to do to both ensure that is being used and to provide us with our needs, and there is nothing wrong with that we just have to spend it at the right time and when the price is good enough for us, not go and sell all your bitcoin when the price go down thinking that it is done, the bitcoin is all about patience.

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January 19, 2017, 12:20:56 PM
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You only lose if You didn't sell at $1100 mark.  Grin Grin

The rising of the BTC has finally stopped and now it is the downfall to some extent. Hoping to buy again and waiting for the right time.

I guess You will lose if you fear to lose. Roll Eyes
Now it is 890-910. Who knows, it may come down to 700-750. Undecided

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January 19, 2017, 01:09:56 PM
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You only lose if You didn't sell at $1100 mark.  Grin Grin

The rising of the BTC has finally stopped and now it is the downfall to some extent. Hoping to buy again and waiting for the right time.

I guess You will lose if you fear to lose. Roll Eyes
Now it is 890-910. Who knows, it may come down to 700-750. Undecided

we know that it is no longer possible to see price go down unless there was a huge rise before it. and what do you know, there was a huge rise and then there was a smaller drop. and the price we are seeing right now is still a rise.

and besides you are forgetting that bitcoin is not just these pump and dumps and it is rising over time. open a bitcoin chart history and see how price has been rising from 2009 if you ignore the pumps and bubbles.

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losing is part of our life, but losing is not definitely losing if you learnt something from it. like gambling on bitcoins, losing in gambling will make depressed, anxious, and so on. but knowing that gambling will make you just lose, the time that you realize that gambling is just losing then you have learnt something. they say you will lose if you never try.
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losing is part of our life, but losing is not definitely losing if you learnt something from it. like gambling on bitcoins, losing in gambling will make depressed, anxious, and so on. but knowing that gambling will make you just lose, the time that you realize that gambling is just losing then you have learnt something. they say you will lose if you never try.
You are right if we are talking about losing but seeing on the topic it seems you are off-topic because the lose we are talking here about losing money on selling bitcoin in a cheaper price.Yes it may really put some learning from it but we should not really sell off our bitcoin in a cheaper price and should lessen panic selling.

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January 19, 2017, 01:39:57 PM
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losing is part of our life, but losing is not definitely losing if you learnt something from it. like gambling on bitcoins, losing in gambling will make depressed, anxious, and so on. but knowing that gambling will make you just lose, the time that you realize that gambling is just losing then you have learnt something. they say you will lose if you never try.
You are right if we are talking about losing but seeing on the topic it seems you are off-topic because the lose we are talking here about losing money on selling bitcoin in a cheaper price.Yes it may really put some learning from it but we should not really sell off our bitcoin in a cheaper price and should lessen panic selling.
always be positive and never sell when you are still at lost better to have more understanding that bitcoin really have fluctuations and if you join the ride while its still in hype you don't need to worry just keep holding and wait for some time it will be back and most of the time its much bigger from what you first make your entry.

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You were right at that time I do not worried about the price and continued to hold my coins till now and now I am seeing that the price in increasing much better. I am still not going to sell my coins and will wait for more longer I am sure that the price of bitcoin will pass over $1200 within a few months.
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selling with a lost for sure is not good for anyone who knows the thrill those who's doing it are the newcomers that doing some panics when market start showing to fall, but those who are familiar with how bitcoin works and how the market moves surely will wait for there advantage holding until they are in a good gain.

selling with loss is different from panic selling.
sometimes you make mistakes and buy when it was not a good time, or because you wanted to take a rather bigger risk and bought on the rise. so you sell when price doesn't move to your expectation at a loss and that is ok as long as you know what you are doing.

but the problems is when people who buy, or invest in anything don't know what they are doing. when they buy into the rise they do it because they are afraid of missing out and then when they sell they are afraid of missing out again! and in this process they only lose money because they don't buy back at bottom.

All this is lack of courage or fear of more losing. A single wrong decision of wrong buying or selling make so much fearing a person that he dont take further risk and therefore lose the lost money.A good approach is to learn from the previous lessons and come back with more passion of winning.









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January 19, 2017, 04:06:53 PM
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in my opinion you will only lose if you panic.

in trading panic is the worst thing a trader can have. and panic or fear means when the trader makes bad decisions, when they buy (invest) in a bad time and based on hype and also when they sell (dump) in a bad time because of FUD.

i started a topic a while ago but it didn't get much attention warning people not to invest in bitcoin if they can not handle things the right way. if they are going to panic it is best to stay away.

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You only lose if You didn't sell at $1100 mark.  Grin Grin

The rising of the BTC has finally stopped and now it is the downfall to some extent. Hoping to buy again and waiting for the right time.

I guess You will lose if you fear to lose. Roll Eyes
Now it is 890-910. Who knows, it may come down to 700-750. Undecided

There are some people who didn't sold even at $1,300 years ago so they didn't sold even at $1,100 so I doubt they will sell at this actual price that is much lower than weeks and years ago unless there is some need of money.
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I'm confident for bitcoin about reach 5x times from current value on 2019 as we know there will be halving and bitcoin demand got higher

So I'm focus to purchase bitcoin every month ( 10-15% ) and keep hold as long as possible

( just learning the past , bitcoin still $ 300 / btc )
Right now bitcoin is close to 900 so that means by your prediction bitcoin will reach a price of 4500 dollars per bitcoin while I have faith in bitcoin I am not sure bitcoin can reach such a price in such a short time frame.
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I'm confident for bitcoin about reach 5x times from current value on 2019 as we know there will be halving and bitcoin demand got higher

So I'm focus to purchase bitcoin every month ( 10-15% ) and keep hold as long as possible

( just learning the past , bitcoin still $ 300 / btc )
Right now bitcoin is close to 900 so that means by your prediction bitcoin will reach a price of 4500 dollars per bitcoin while I have faith in bitcoin I am not sure bitcoin can reach such a price in such a short time frame.
Nothing is impossible in the world of cryptocurrency, when the 2016 ago prices of bitcoin ranging between 600-700 USD/BTC,
nobody would have thought if in that year will be 1100 USD/BTC just in a month. The bitcoin price is very difficult to guess.
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I'm confident for bitcoin about reach 5x times from current value on 2019 as we know there will be halving and bitcoin demand got higher

So I'm focus to purchase bitcoin every month ( 10-15% ) and keep hold as long as possible

( just learning the past , bitcoin still $ 300 / btc )
Right now bitcoin is close to 900 so that means by your prediction bitcoin will reach a price of 4500 dollars per bitcoin while I have faith in bitcoin I am not sure bitcoin can reach such a price in such a short time frame.
Nothing is impossible in the world of cryptocurrency, when the 2016 ago prices of bitcoin ranging between 600-700 USD/BTC,
nobody would have thought if in that year will be 1100 USD/BTC just in a month. The bitcoin price is very difficult to guess.
That's true, it's difficult to guess or to predict but we have to make it, it's the only way we can make money here especially when you are an investor or a trader, you daily activities in life is just to predict the possible price movement. It would be easy if you are guessing the future of bitcoin since we can see that the adoption rate is good, hence, it will make the price increase overtime.

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January 20, 2017, 03:47:02 PM
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Although I am adept at holding as much as possible, there are some cases that the dump is very predictable. One such moment was when the BTC hit 1k+ . The pump was uncontrolled and it was clear that an hour would go down as well.
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Yeah you are right. at that time when the price was going down I worried and my brother advised me to sell them now but then I remembered the past and then I decided then no I will not sell and good time will come once again. So I hold them and now I am happy with bitcoins with me.
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right now bitcoin price is vollatile, it wnet down for more $200 when was reaching more than $1000, there are a lot of variables that affect bitcoin market, and one that seems to make a great difference is china position about bitcoin and its back up of the coin, demands also affect bitcoin price, so whom ever going to buy bitcoin as an investment, must need to be informed about the risks and possible fluctuations, i am form the ones that believe that bitcoin has a great future, but there a lot  of update for bitcoin core still for arrive
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I don`t care for what you are talking here, when I need money I sell, I don`t look how much is the price in that moments. Of course saving is good for future, I know that, that is one of my biggest regrets about bitcoin, I should start saving long time ago. But my personality is like that, I like to spend, I know if I don`t cash out, there is a big chance I will gamble all I have or spend on trading, or something else. I don`t know how to save, and I think I never wanted to learn. Cause of that many times I was on zero, and many times I had a new fresh start.



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I don`t care for what you are talking here, when I need money I sell, I don`t look how much is the price in that moments. Of course saving is good for future, I know that, that is one of my biggest regrets about bitcoin, I should start saving long time ago. But my personality is like that, I like to spend, I know if I don`t cash out, there is a big chance I will gamble all I have or spend on trading, or something else. I don`t know how to save, and I think I never wanted to learn. Cause of that many times I was on zero, and many times I had a new fresh start.
I appreciate your personality, but when you say "I don't look how much is the price in that moments."
How if you bought the Bitcoin when the price is expensive, and when you need money the prices are down,
do you still selling that? It's mean you're lose, brother.
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I don`t care for what you are talking here, when I need money I sell, I don`t look how much is the price in that moments. Of course saving is good for future, I know that, that is one of my biggest regrets about bitcoin, I should start saving long time ago. But my personality is like that, I like to spend, I know if I don`t cash out, there is a big chance I will gamble all I have or spend on trading, or something else. I don`t know how to save, and I think I never wanted to learn. Cause of that many times I was on zero, and many times I had a new fresh start.
I appreciate your personality, but when you say "I don't look how much is the price in that moments."
How if you bought the Bitcoin when the price is expensive, and when you need money the prices are down,
do you still selling that? It's mean you're lose, brother.

Yes, you are right. But what you said works for traders and investors. They need to calculate how much they paid, will they earn, when to buy or sell, its their job. I tried to trade with altcoins, I still trade for fun but almost always I lose money on that, I can imagine how hard is to trade with bitcoins. Cause of that I gamble, I earn from campaigns and other places, and I invest in my luck.



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I don`t care for what you are talking here, when I need money I sell, I don`t look how much is the price in that moments. Of course saving is good for future, I know that, that is one of my biggest regrets about bitcoin, I should start saving long time ago. But my personality is like that, I like to spend, I know if I don`t cash out, there is a big chance I will gamble all I have or spend on trading, or something else. I don`t know how to save, and I think I never wanted to learn. Cause of that many times I was on zero, and many times I had a new fresh start.
At here he is talking about those people who old their money for longer to get the profit and to those who invest in bitcoin as traders so those people if sell in that time which he mentioned will definitely lose while those people who are only active earners and use that money will not depend on the price but they will earn and will withdraw for their  use.
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Yeah you are right. at that time when the price was going down I worried and my brother advised me to sell them now but then I remembered the past and then I decided then no I will not sell and good time will come once again. So I hold them and now I am happy with bitcoins with me.
but i think that it is really not a good decision to sell your bitcoins in current time because the price has fell down and is now trading below 909 USD. therefor now the good decision will be to hold bitcoin for the price increase.
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I'm such a poor timer and a complete dumbass when it comes to bitcoin.  I just spent all but $13 worth of my bitcoin for some items online.  And I rarely spend it.  Now if we go to $2000, I'm going to be quite sad.

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January 24, 2017, 03:00:54 AM
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I'm confident for bitcoin about reach 5x times from current value on 2019 as we know there will be halving and bitcoin demand got higher

So I'm focus to purchase bitcoin every month ( 10-15% ) and keep hold as long as possible

( just learning the past , bitcoin still $ 300 / btc )
Right now bitcoin is close to 900 so that means by your prediction bitcoin will reach a price of 4500 dollars per bitcoin while I have faith in bitcoin I am not sure bitcoin can reach such a price in such a short time frame.
Nothing is impossible in the world of cryptocurrency, when the 2016 ago prices of bitcoin ranging between 600-700 USD/BTC,
nobody would have thought if in that year will be 1100 USD/BTC just in a month. The bitcoin price is very difficult to guess.
Nothing is impossible that is true, but at the same time there must be a reason for the price to reach that amount that fast and right now I don't see how the price could multiply itself that fast in such a short time frame.
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I'm confident for bitcoin about reach 5x times from current value on 2019 as we know there will be halving and bitcoin demand got higher

So I'm focus to purchase bitcoin every month ( 10-15% ) and keep hold as long as possible

( just learning the past , bitcoin still $ 300 / btc )
Right now bitcoin is close to 900 so that means by your prediction bitcoin will reach a price of 4500 dollars per bitcoin while I have faith in bitcoin I am not sure bitcoin can reach such a price in such a short time frame.
Nothing is impossible in the world of cryptocurrency, when the 2016 ago prices of bitcoin ranging between 600-700 USD/BTC,
nobody would have thought if in that year will be 1100 USD/BTC just in a month. The bitcoin price is very difficult to guess.
Nothing is impossible that is true, but at the same time there must be a reason for the price to reach that amount that fast and right now I don't see how the price could multiply itself that fast in such a short time frame.
It's very difficult to guess the right price but we know that it will increase in the future, that should be our basis to invest and we must choose a long term investment if we are not good in day trading. Success are for those who are willing to wait and just like what happen when it reached that price, it will again rise to that level.

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January 25, 2017, 07:10:24 AM
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Yeah you are right. at that time when the price was going down I worried and my brother advised me to sell them now but then I remembered the past and then I decided then no I will not sell and good time will come once again. So I hold them and now I am happy with bitcoins with me.
we always lose a lot of money in panic selling. and that is mostly happens in short term investment. in long term investment we do no care the the little pump and dump, i personally in interested in long term investment about 4 to 5 years. and hope that after that time bitcoin price will more that triple as compare to the present price. so i will also recommend long term investment to my friends.
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Yeah you are right. at that time when the price was going down I worried and my brother advised me to sell them now but then I remembered the past and then I decided then no I will not sell and good time will come once again. So I hold them and now I am happy with bitcoins with me.
we always lose a lot of money in panic selling. and that is mostly happens in short term investment. in long term investment we do no care the the little pump and dump, i personally in interested in long term investment about 4 to 5 years. and hope that after that time bitcoin price will more that triple as compare to the present price. so i will also recommend long term investment to my friends.
That is true but if you sell your money for a good reason let us say you have another business and you really need money for that business, instead of borrowing money from a bank or other lending company then it is practical if you get first your investment rather than borrowing, interest rate is could be higher than profit you can earn.
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Yeah you are right. at that time when the price was going down I worried and my brother advised me to sell them now but then I remembered the past and then I decided then no I will not sell and good time will come once again. So I hold them and now I am happy with bitcoins with me.
we always lose a lot of money in panic selling. and that is mostly happens in short term investment. in long term investment we do no care the the little pump and dump, i personally in interested in long term investment about 4 to 5 years. and hope that after that time bitcoin price will more that triple as compare to the present price. so i will also recommend long term investment to my friends.
To avoid the occurrence of panic sellings, I think the Bitcoiner should be
always make positive news about bitcoin or trying to refute if there are people
who make negative news about this cryptocurrency. Maybe, it will reduce our losses.
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January 25, 2017, 03:01:45 PM
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Although I am adept at holding as much as possible, there are some cases that the dump is very predictable. One such moment was when the BTC hit 1k+ . The pump was uncontrolled and it was clear that an hour would go down as well.
That is not important that each time a fall will occur at some stage but when the price of bitcoin start to increase it continue to increase and at last it stop at a highest stage and then after that a correction start to occur which occurs in every trade and that correction brings the price a little lower to get the stability to some extent and when a good time come the rice once again start to increase.
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Yeah you are right. at that time when the price was going down I worried and my brother advised me to sell them now but then I remembered the past and then I decided then no I will not sell and good time will come once again. So I hold them and now I am happy with bitcoins with me.
we always lose a lot of money in panic selling. and that is mostly happens in short term investment. in long term investment we do no care the the little pump and dump, i personally in interested in long term investment about 4 to 5 years. and hope that after that time bitcoin price will more that triple as compare to the present price. so i will also recommend long term investment to my friends.
yes that is a fact that panic selling is the main problem. most of the time when the price of bitcoin is taking market correction, so people consider it as market crash and starts panic selling which effect the price of bitcoin too much. but i think now the situation is changing from time to time. people are now becoming mature and the are not selling their bitcoins in panic like situation.
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January 25, 2017, 03:21:51 PM
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Although it could also be strength if you have the courage to sell tat the right time. Risky but still if you can afford to lose then it is a good thing. It will be beneficial for the next trade that you will encounter if you ever will do it again. You now know the risk that you will be getting into.
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I'm confident for bitcoin about reach 5x times from current value on 2019 as we know there will be halving and bitcoin demand got higher

So I'm focus to purchase bitcoin every month ( 10-15% ) and keep hold as long as possible

( just learning the past , bitcoin still $ 300 / btc )
Right now bitcoin is close to 900 so that means by your prediction bitcoin will reach a price of 4500 dollars per bitcoin while I have faith in bitcoin I am not sure bitcoin can reach such a price in such a short time frame.
Nothing is impossible in the world of cryptocurrency, when the 2016 ago prices of bitcoin ranging between 600-700 USD/BTC,
nobody would have thought if in that year will be 1100 USD/BTC just in a month. The bitcoin price is very difficult to guess.

Lots expected it on the contrary,  the thing that no body thought is the announcement of China right after some day Bitcoin breaks $1000.  That is really annoying, just when Bitcoin is up $1000+ then China announces some anti climatic News and Bitcoin take a dip until $750.
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January 25, 2017, 11:57:54 PM
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I always sold my bitcoin and always exchange it to fiat currency im in need every week not because spending them on random things but because i need it for my daily expenses going to school and i just get bitcoin for free from trading and gambling so it's not a problem to me if i sell.

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You only lose if you buy high and sell low.
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January 26, 2017, 02:26:42 AM
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You only lose if you buy high and sell low.

Lol! that is not even said as the basic principle to profit is the opposite, you would sell at the right time and that right time is when you feel you are getting the right profit you expected. Never sell when you are losing because if you do that, you only show your lack of trust with bitcoin and you will never gonna succeed in the long run.

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January 26, 2017, 03:08:46 AM
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You only lose if you buy high and sell low.
Then why you need to do that ? No sense at all. 
OP is talking about not holding when bitcoin was near ATH. When bitcoin prices were seeming to fall down, you will lose if you prefer to keep on holding.

But I am not agreeing with OP, and I am just holding my bitcoins for another bounce back.

If you buy high, you can hold for higher prices to get profits.
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January 26, 2017, 03:59:44 AM
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I'm not losing every time I sold my coins because I convert it to our fiat money and I can buy what I want. It can provide my daily needs and pay my bills, so it is really worth it. I don't care much if I sell it in high or low because I got my bitcoins in different day and time.

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Well, I probably lost when I became impatient. Well, I always sell coins I invest when the price is slightly up or slightly down. I think, that it is a safe way to play, but I think lost, when the coin prices rise very high. there are currently 1 coin that I hold, and I hope the price immediately rose to the height.

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January 26, 2017, 08:12:27 AM
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Well, I probably lost when I became impatient. Well, I always sell coins I invest when the price is slightly up or slightly down. I think, that it is a safe way to play, but I think lost, when the coin prices rise very high. there are currently 1 coin that I hold, and I hope the price immediately rose to the height.

Probably, it is one of the traders strategies, but if you only have not enough money to have a large capital. You cannot earn a lot in fast way if you have a small capital, especially you want a fast way of earning, you cannot trust the value changes of a certain altcoin
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January 26, 2017, 11:31:24 AM
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Well, I probably lost when I became impatient. Well, I always sell coins I invest when the price is slightly up or slightly down. I think, that it is a safe way to play, but I think lost, when the coin prices rise very high. there are currently 1 coin that I hold, and I hope the price immediately rose to the height.

Probably, it is one of the traders strategies, but if you only have not enough money to have a large capital. You cannot earn a lot in fast way if you have a small capital, especially you want a fast way of earning, you cannot trust the value changes of a certain altcoin

yeah, every traders have their own strategies, with small capital we need long time to make big profit unless there is a pump on the coins and we sold it in high price. in trading we should be patient to always check the price so we don't missed the price we want and we can get what we want.

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 buy on fomo. or do not read abot coin, what u want to buy.
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January 26, 2017, 12:39:33 PM
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Well, I probably lost when I became impatient. Well, I always sell coins I invest when the price is slightly up or slightly down. I think, that it is a safe way to play, but I think lost, when the coin prices rise very high. there are currently 1 coin that I hold, and I hope the price immediately rose to the height.

actually you are doing the right thing but thinking the wrong one!
what you do is what every experienced trader does. you sell when you reach your profit target. trading is no place for regrets. if you made your profit then take it and be satisfy with it. and if the coin went higher just take the profit and be happy you made a profit instead of losing and think about your profit target next time to be more accurate.

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January 26, 2017, 02:10:25 PM
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You will lose if you are not patient. if you sell your coins even just a little bit higher than the amount you bought it i think thats fine. there will always right time to sell if you dont wait then you wont gain anything.

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January 26, 2017, 03:44:51 PM
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You will lose if you are not patient. if you sell your coins even just a little bit higher than the amount you bought it i think thats fine. there will always right time to sell if you dont wait then you wont gain anything.

I don't think that you can always earn from trading just because you were patient. For example, you bought an altcoin at 1000 satoshi each because you thought it was a good coin. And so you waited for a couple of weeks, and the price didn't even move that much. And then you wait more and more since you're very patient. But the price was just decreasing. Did your patience help you? No, it did not. You simply just waited and waiting doesn't require any skill at all. Everyone has the capacity to wait.

I think you should be able to identify which coins aren't stagnant, which is pretty easy to do btw so your waiting would worth something. Just a piece of advice, if the coin isn't moving that much, if the coin isn't even decreasing, then it's probably a dead coin so don't buy it.

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You only loose if you don't follow the right dream Smiley
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January 27, 2017, 01:00:19 AM
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Yes, I agree with you.
If we selling bitcoin we lose, in long terms bitcoin price will increase more than now maybe cross 1000$ again after few weeks. No one know that. but i believe that this cryptocurrancy had a lot of surprice for us ( i mean bitcoin community ). Many people now Trust bitcoin and use it arround the world, that is to say bitcoin price go up.
So, the conclusion is do not sell your bitcoin.

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You only lose if you buy high and sell low.
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Not always.  Grin

For me,you lose if, you sell at the wrong time ( Grin) or when you're being forced to sell because of some 'urgent' need/circumstance.
 
Selling because you need to, eliminates any sort of control you have. Profits are all left to chance since you have to sell whether it's high or low.

There's also the cases where those who receive weekly payments proceed to sell as soon as they receive their 'wages'. It's automatic and doesn't consider anything else other than converting into fiat regardless of price.
I feel that is also a loss and results in a lot of missed opportunities for some.

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January 28, 2017, 02:55:26 AM
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I do convert some of my bitcoins when I need money but I don’t do that when price goes down because I have long term approach and I believe that bitcoin is worth much more than the current situation. Even if I can’t buy in lower levels then I don’t even sell it in that case. One should buy or hold bitcoin up to his capacity of loss bearing.
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You will lose if you are not patient. if you sell your coins even just a little bit higher than the amount you bought it i think thats fine. there will always right time to sell if you dont wait then you wont gain anything.

Patience is much important with bitcoin to gain the profit, but everytime patience won't be effective. Its better to plan for a targeted price and sell once you reach it, else with over expectation holding with patience results in loss.

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January 28, 2017, 03:06:56 PM
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You only lose if you sell with a big loss on your initial investment or capital ! In trading price votality is normal me personally I get used to it so wheter the certain coin goes down I know in the will rise up on the near future ! So my advice keep holding until you get your desired profit!
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I always sold my bitcoin and always exchange it to fiat currency im in need every week not because spending them on random things but because i need it for my daily expenses going to school and i just get bitcoin for free from trading and gambling so it's not a problem to me if i sell.
If you are a traders then it is not good to sell every time because you will need to wait for the good time and and do not have to sell in those timing when the price of bitcoin will be in the way to increase more higher in the coming future. The successful trader is that who have their extra money for trading and with which he will be able to trade for longer time.
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You will surely loose if you gamble with bitcoins as majority of users try to multiply their bitcoins quick and take help from gambling but at the end of the day they loose everything so it would be wise not to use them in gambling and instead hold them for a long term as price is expected to be much higher in future.


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January 29, 2017, 09:29:21 PM
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You will surely loose if you gamble with bitcoins as majority of users try to multiply their bitcoins quick and take help from gambling but at the end of the day they loose everything so it would be wise not to use them in gambling and instead hold them for a long term as price is expected to be much higher in future.
i think playing gambling with bitcoin is not a problem but the problem is that you are not playing gambling with planing, and you do not have any limit for playing gambling. but if you have a good limit for playing gambling, then surely you will win and not lose as much as people are expecting in gambling.
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You will surely loose if you gamble with bitcoins as majority of users try to multiply their bitcoins quick and take help from gambling but at the end of the day they loose everything so it would be wise not to use them in gambling and instead hold them for a long term as price is expected to be much higher in future.
i think playing gambling with bitcoin is not a problem but the problem is that you are not playing gambling with planing, and you do not have any limit for playing gambling. but if you have a good limit for playing gambling, then surely you will win and not lose as much as people are expecting in gambling.
Setting limits does not give you guarantees that you will win, but this will prevent you from losing more than you can afford to lose. The important thing about gambling is knowing that if you lose, it is likely that this was not your fault, as the design of the game significantly decreases the chances of winning. In that case, accepting the loss can sometimes prevent you from having more losses soon after.
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January 29, 2017, 10:23:02 PM
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I always sold my bitcoin and always exchange it to fiat currency im in need every week not because spending them on random things but because i need it for my daily expenses going to school and i just get bitcoin for free from trading and gambling so it's not a problem to me if i sell.

In your case, It's understandable. In the end we all have a different reasons why we are earning money through bitcoin and when

we finally earned it, It will serve it's purpose. Some are earning to grow their bitcoins for the future and you to support yourself

and I think that is just normal. But if you want to save also there is only one answer and it is to find more source of income in BTC

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January 29, 2017, 10:30:09 PM
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You will surely loose if you gamble with bitcoins as majority of users try to multiply their bitcoins quick and take help from gambling but at the end of the day they loose everything so it would be wise not to use them in gambling and instead hold them for a long term as price is expected to be much higher in future.
i think playing gambling with bitcoin is not a problem but the problem is that you are not playing gambling with planing, and you do not have any limit for playing gambling. but if you have a good limit for playing gambling, then surely you will win and not lose as much as people are expecting in gambling.

Having limits will never assure you profits every time and I don't think that any planning can even help in gambling as it is totally based on luck and no strategy can bring profits for you so in that case the answer is very simple either you win or you loose but the chances of loosing are quiet high in compare to winning.

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January 29, 2017, 11:37:52 PM
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You will surely loose if you gamble with bitcoins as majority of users try to multiply their bitcoins quick and take help from gambling but at the end of the day they loose everything so it would be wise not to use them in gambling and instead hold them for a long term as price is expected to be much higher in future.
i think playing gambling with bitcoin is not a problem but the problem is that you are not playing gambling with planing, and you do not have any limit for playing gambling. but if you have a good limit for playing gambling, then surely you will win and not lose as much as people are expecting in gambling.
You can win if you know your limit, however it's not what  usally occured. Since gambling online is computer manipulated, you can't say if that game isn't fair because
that computer can set your luck into the lowest point, giving you a lose result. It's a matter of luck and strategy to win. If you lose your control, you would certainly lose. In the other hand, if you have a good control, you might lose or win.
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January 30, 2017, 03:06:31 AM
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You Sell.  Wink


Yes, if you sell thinking bitcoin price would fall down more, then definitely you will be the looser.It happened just because of panic selling by the chinese holders. Now,they feel that they have done a grave mistake by selling their bitcoins. In order to recover their sold bitcoins, they want bitcoin price not to rise and they spread rumours about china is going to ban bitcoins.So, know the worth of bitcoins in your hands and dont lose it.
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January 30, 2017, 03:45:13 AM
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Maybe you lose when you panic at selling, panic sellers or newbies will always lose bitcoins, in trading you need patience and strategy too and analysis to the coin you buyed holding is good if the altcoins you hold is going to pump next week or months.

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Maybe you lose when you panic at selling, panic sellers or newbies will always lose bitcoins, in trading you need patience and strategy too and analysis to the coin you buyed holding is good if the altcoins you hold is going to pump next week or months.
Yes indeed panic selling will make a loss and a lot of newbie traders who did it (even traders who already have experience they often do that). What to do when panic selling was doing DISCIPLINE to follow a trading plan previously created, so plan should be required before starting trade. In addition the lack of skills to start trade will make us lose, it is the same we do trade like gambling (relying on luck without skill trade).
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January 30, 2017, 02:55:52 PM
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You will surely loose if you gamble with bitcoins as majority of users try to multiply their bitcoins quick and take help from gambling but at the end of the day they loose everything so it would be wise not to use them in gambling and instead hold them for a long term as price is expected to be much higher in future.
i think playing gambling with bitcoin is not a problem but the problem is that you are not playing gambling with planing, and you do not have any limit for playing gambling. but if you have a good limit for playing gambling, then surely you will win and not lose as much as people are expecting in gambling.

Having limits will never assure you profits every time and I don't think that any planning can even help in gambling as it is totally based on luck and no strategy can bring profits for you so in that case the answer is very simple either you win or you loose but the chances of loosing are quiet high in compare to winning.

Agreed, at the end of the day there's still only two results, you either win or lose. This people put limit on how much money they are gambling so they would feel less sorry for themselves. If they lose, they would just be all like "Ohh, at least I didn't lose x amount of money. It's still a good day for me." To some it's a good thing but it's just an illusion for me. Ultimately, you still lost money. All these planning and limiting yourself didn't make you earn money at all.

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January 30, 2017, 03:09:55 PM
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You will surely loose if you gamble with bitcoins as majority of users try to multiply their bitcoins quick and take help from gambling but at the end of the day they loose everything so it would be wise not to use them in gambling and instead hold them for a long term as price is expected to be much higher in future.
i think playing gambling with bitcoin is not a problem but the problem is that you are not playing gambling with planing, and you do not have any limit for playing gambling. but if you have a good limit for playing gambling, then surely you will win and not lose as much as people are expecting in gambling.

Having limits will never assure you profits every time and I don't think that any planning can even help in gambling as it is totally based on luck and no strategy can bring profits for you so in that case the answer is very simple either you win or you loose but the chances of loosing are quiet high in compare to winning.

Agreed, at the end of the day there's still only two results, you either win or lose. This people put limit on how much money they are gambling so they would feel less sorry for themselves. If they lose, they would just be all like "Ohh, at least I didn't lose x amount of money. It's still a good day for me." To some it's a good thing but it's just an illusion for me. Ultimately, you still lost money. All these planning and limiting yourself didn't make you earn money at all.
Sometimes you would really need to test it out in able to learn and lossing money is really a part of that.Mistakes do really happen but we should know something on this things so that next time we would know already what to do. Trading or investing on bitcoin is just like that since people do really have different perspectives of plan on their coins.

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February 28, 2017, 03:44:01 PM
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Sometimes you would really need to test it out in able to learn and lossing money is really a part of that.Mistakes do really happen but we should know something on this things so that next time we would know already what to do. Trading or investing on bitcoin is just like that since people do really have different perspectives of plan on their coins.
Well in my opinion you only lose if you do not have a big target. People invest a small percentage of their amount just to see if their gamble works or not and luckily at that time it works. They find that this is there chance to play big and invest everything and lose at the end.

Trading or gambling with your bit coins is not piece of cake. You should have a good mind set with patients to be profitable here.
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February 28, 2017, 04:14:27 PM
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You only lose if you didnt managed well your bitcoin. If you didnt managed well your time and effort by doing certain things. Just like in trading if you dont have the patient and effort to do a trade in a certain of time you will lose your bitcoin that way.
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Well, you're just going to lose if you hesitate in taking the decision. I never felt it. Well, the price of a altcoin ride, I may be too old to take decisions, and doubt, because I feel that the price of the coin will rise higher. but, the price suddenly drops and make me lose.

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You only lose if you didnt managed well your bitcoin. If you didnt managed well your time and effort by doing certain things. Just like in trading if you dont have the patient and effort to do a trade in a certain of time you will lose your bitcoin that way.
All these things are right without doubt. However, we have to ask ourselves what is the loss? I mean, people who own big mining farms. They spend nearly all their time on work in these rooms with loud miners. They control the process, the state of miners and the cooling system. They earn big sums of money but in my opinion they lose more, because they lose their life, sacrifice it for bitcoin and money.

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February 28, 2017, 08:34:34 PM
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I am holding the coins since it was $450, but that doesn't mean I am not selling them.
I sell the only part that I need in extra to add some more fun to my life, the other part that I have been saving for future, is the part that I am not going to sell until I see the best price for it.

there are more secure investments than a Krypto Currency no one for sure knows where it came from and who definates its price in the stock exchange, plus, it is very likely a bubble like the telekom stock in germany in the year 2000.

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You will surely loose if you gamble with bitcoins as majority of users try to multiply their bitcoins quick and take help from gambling but at the end of the day they loose everything so it would be wise not to use them in gambling and instead hold them for a long term as price is expected to be much higher in future.
but i think still there are some people who are so much luck and have good experience in gambling and they know all the tricks of gambling and that is the reason that most of the time they make money.
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You will surely loose if you gamble with bitcoins as majority of users try to multiply their bitcoins quick and take help from gambling but at the end of the day they loose everything so it would be wise not to use them in gambling and instead hold them for a long term as price is expected to be much higher in future.
but i think still there are some people who are so much luck and have good experience in gambling and they know all the tricks of gambling and that is the reason that most of the time they make money.
I don't think it's a matter of technique, I do believe, it's a matter of momey mamagement. Although luck is part of it, without discipline in holding your money, you'll always lose the game. Being wise is significant in making a successful trade/gambling, part of it we have also need to protect our capital and make savings from our profit.
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You only lose if you didnt managed well your bitcoin. If you didnt managed well your time and effort by doing certain things. Just like in trading if you dont have the patient and effort to do a trade in a certain of time you will lose your bitcoin that way.
I manage my bitcoin for well but I still get a little lose, and how is it happen? Just keep watching about the secure investment. managing without any knowledge about investment is too risky. 

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Just keep watching about the secure investment. managing without any knowledge about investment is too risky.  
As long as you are waiting for investment opportunities, you are under risks of losing all the times. Instead of looking for those opportunities, looking for and gaining new bitcoins must give you big boost for your wealth progress. When you are targeting big price levels for bitcoin like in millions, you never need to worry about holding are selling them at right times.

Only for those short term holders, selling time to time and buying back is more important and definitely not for the long term holders. Long term holders are always enjoying holding bitcoin with peace of mind and more importantly gaining more profits than active traders.

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if you panic.

if you get away from your plans.

if you do not use stop loss.

if you insist on to gain from the asset you lose.

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You only lose if you didnt managed well your bitcoin. If you didnt managed well your time and effort by doing certain things. Just like in trading if you dont have the patient and effort to do a trade in a certain of time you will lose your bitcoin that way.

The sure thing that you will lose is when you sell your Bitcoin lower than what you bought it.  I do not think people lose if they sell it with profit.  I can agree that they may even have bigger profit if they hold their BTC for longer period of time, but the question is until when do they need to wait to get the maximum possible profit from their holdings.  

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March 01, 2017, 03:33:48 AM
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You only lose if you always go even you don't know what possible happens to the money. Like investing, you should know how you could earn on it and know your limitations to the money that you want to invest should be enough. In trading also, you will be lose if you buy a currency that old and very slow swinging movement so that it will end up you to lose because its very hard to go up when its start to down.
Therefore, you will not lose if you choose wisely in every move that you make.
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If you panic and then sell off your bitcoin on a cheaper price then  you will surely lose and instead of minding to sell those coins better not to do that thing and its much better to hold even more because price of bitcoin will eventually rise up again on a matter of time. Patience would really matter here and if you don't have this then wrong decisions would be made.
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March 01, 2017, 06:43:49 AM
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You only lose if you give your bitcoin first if your selling it because there are so much scammers online you can not trust any one. So if you do that i promise you will loose your bitcoin. And also do not sell it in cheap price because you may not know as it is beggining to be more papular its value is getting more expensive.
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You only lose if you give your bitcoin first if your selling it because there are so much scammers online you can not trust any one. So if you do that i promise you will loose your bitcoin. And also do not sell it in cheap price because you may not know as it is beggining to be more papular its value is getting more expensive.
By just looking at the price movement or the price entirely, will not let you know if it's expensive or not. The smartest way to determine is to understand how that price arrive at the point, and you cannot determine that if you are just guessing when you invest and when you trade.
There are relevant news that is circulating on a daily basis, take it as you daily vitamins to feed yourself with relevant information, that way you'll understand everything and your actions always has basis. You'll then buy and sell at the right time.

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March 01, 2017, 11:18:19 AM
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Not in every situation I had purchased bitcoin before I was getting an easy 180% roi so I sold it and bought monero when the price for 2-3$. I recently sold all the monero I had and converted to bitcoin and a good profit. Selling is always not a loss if you use the money you got from selling it wisely.
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March 01, 2017, 07:54:29 PM
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Not in every situation I had purchased bitcoin before I was getting an easy 180% roi so I sold it and bought monero when the price for 2-3$. I recently sold all the monero I had and converted to bitcoin and a good profit. Selling is always not a loss if you use the money you got from selling it wisely.

I agree. OP didn't elaborate enough his thread because there are different situations when we sell our bitcoin or alts instead he

just posted a big meme. It will depend on a certain situation if you failed or not. I won't give any example because common sense

will do for it. I'm guessing that since you sold all your XMR you will buy again right? If not it will be a waste because it is

prospective.


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There is one good proposal: Don't loose as much as you can't afford. When you see that you aren't good trader and you are loosing, choose that right moment and quite from trading, if you'll continue and think that smally martingale will help and you will try to get your 100% after 70% and more loose, than you won't get profit,  you only lose. My advice is to try demo websites at first and than turn into real trading.

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You Sell.  Wink


This is not true. We can't lose from selling because that is how we make profits. Selling is one of the essence of trading or investment and that is the only way we can make money in the market then if we don't do that then we will get 0 profit. I think we only lose if we do bad decisions with bad analytical because in that case we already know that the user is very greedy which can cause for wrong sell offs and gives bad results and also make you a loser.
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Not in every situation I had purchased bitcoin before I was getting an easy 180% roi so I sold it and bought monero when the price for 2-3$. I recently sold all the monero I had and converted to bitcoin and a good profit. Selling is always not a loss if you use the money you got from selling it wisely.
Yeah, A lot of profit if we can be patience person. I bought a lot of the bela coin on 1900 satoshi and i doubing my amount in just in a month. I just convert all to the bitcoin. Glad to see more people get a lot of profit.

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in my opinion, we only loss if we are rush and in hurry to make decision without doing research for what is going on in the market and we don't watching and analyze the chart. sometimes we get in there and we made wrong decision so we are rush for selling or buying coins so finally we loss the good time to selling or buying. i think its normal to have this experience as we are ordinary people that sometime we loss our mind because of we are not focus.

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in my opinion, we only loss if we are rush and in hurry to make decision without doing research for what is going on in the market and we don't watching and analyze the chart. sometimes we get in there and we made wrong decision so we are rush for selling or buying coins so finally we loss the good time to selling or buying. i think its normal to have this experience as we are ordinary people that sometime we loss our mind because of we are not focus.
Yes that is normal for people like us to make bad decisions because we are not perfect and we need those kind of experience to do better decision in the future. There is a saying that says "Losers quit but winners fail until they succeed" i think on that saying it is the proof that winners always need failure in order to succeed which we can apply in buying and selling coins like bitcoins or altcoins.
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in my opinion, we only loss if we are rush and in hurry to make decision without doing research for what is going on in the market and we don't watching and analyze the chart. sometimes we get in there and we made wrong decision so we are rush for selling or buying coins so finally we loss the good time to selling or buying. i think its normal to have this experience as we are ordinary people that sometime we loss our mind because of we are not focus.
Yes that is normal for people like us to make bad decisions because we are not perfect and we need those kind of experience to do better decision in the future. There is a saying that says "Losers quit but winners fail until they succeed" i think on that saying it is the proof that winners always need failure in order to succeed which we can apply in buying and selling coins like bitcoins or altcoins.
We do really learn from our past mistakes and as we are still newbie we do commit mistakes and we cant really deny on that. Mistakes do mold us for future decision that we would made since experience adds up and we do already know the right next move.

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IMO, trading just like gambling but trading provide better profit if they have great analysis by predicting value on graph. Usually community feedback really help people to predict the value. Just keep trading so you will gain experience and it will lower your chance for lossing
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sometimes I detect a good altcoin as my review of appropriate specification to invest into it for long term and hope it grow up crazy in the future but after its developer go with his coin so I lost all my btc LOL
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sometimes I detect a good altcoin as my review of appropriate specification to invest into it for long term and hope it grow up crazy in the future but after its developer go with his coin so I lost all my btc LOL

It's another reason that we lose if those devs will run away together with the profit they got from us who invested with their project.

That's why if we aren't aware on what's happening with the project that's the time we are going to lose.

And it's called negligence.

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if you panic.

if you get away from your plans.

if you do not use stop loss.

if you insist on to gain from the asset you lose.


I do agree with these opinions. Thanks for listing them here. Getting away with your own plan is the ridiculous thing a guy can do. Stick to the plan and believe in your plan and you will be successful. Believe in yourself in one of the important factors which affects you a lot in a positive way. Try not to be panic too. Most of the people sell everything because they are too panic to keep holding their coin, especially Bitcoiners
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Not in every situation I had purchased bitcoin before I was getting an easy 180% roi so I sold it and bought monero when the price for 2-3$. I recently sold all the monero I had and converted to bitcoin and a good profit. Selling is always not a loss if you use the money you got from selling it wisely.

I agree. OP didn't elaborate enough his thread because there are different situations when we sell our bitcoin or alts instead he

just posted a big meme. It will depend on a certain situation if you failed or not. I won't give any example because common sense

will do for it. I'm guessing that since you sold all your XMR you will buy again right? If not it will be a waste because it is

prospective.


I just bought a few yesterday and I won't be selling that ever , just gonna let it stay unless I'm in need of money and the rest it's currently invested in bitcoins , I decided that half of the money I converted I will let it stay in my btc wallet and with the other half I'll invest in some other altcoin like dash or I'll just end up buying more monero after bitcoins price reaches 1500$.
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IMO, trading just like gambling but trading provide better profit if they have great analysis by predicting value on graph. Usually community feedback really help people to predict the value. Just keep trading so you will gain experience and it will lower your chance for lossing
That's right what you say, it is indeed like gambling, but in trading we must be able to master
all market analysis, read the chart and it all is not easy. It took a long time to become a professional Trader.
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IMO, trading just like gambling but trading provide better profit if they have great analysis by predicting value on graph. Usually community feedback really help people to predict the value. Just keep trading so you will gain experience and it will lower your chance for lossing
That's right what you say, it is indeed like gambling, but in trading we must be able to master
all market analysis, read the chart and it all is not easy. It took a long time to become a professional Trader.

I think in trading there is little bit more advantage of prediction based on the actual activities related to it which are not possible in gambling. One can not simply predict the next number in the dice or wheel because there is complete random process however in trading if you are looking at stock, one can predict something based on the decisions, trusts and overall market conditions associated with that stock.
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IMO, trading just like gambling but trading provide better profit if they have great analysis by predicting value on graph. Usually community feedback really help people to predict the value. Just keep trading so you will gain experience and it will lower your chance for lossing
That's right what you say, it is indeed like gambling, but in trading we must be able to master
all market analysis, read the chart and it all is not easy. It took a long time to become a professional Trader.

I think in trading there is little bit more advantage of prediction based on the actual activities related to it which are not possible in gambling. One can not simply predict the next number in the dice or wheel because there is complete random process however in trading if you are looking at stock, one can predict something based on the decisions, trusts and overall market conditions associated with that stock.
Yes that is true. Trading is more wiser to choose over gambling because there is a high chance to earn high profits if you read a lot or study about trading and also if you are updated in the latest updates or news about the coin that you are investing because that is how you can get a high positive chance of right prediction because you will analyze if the news will help for the price or not while gambling is just pure luck because you didn't know how the system or the script of the site works.
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March 02, 2017, 01:26:07 PM
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You only lose if......you go in online gambling using bitcoin. Gambling does not give you good in your life many gamblers now suffer and regretting and ruin their life for their wrong decision to invest in gambling site.  So accept if you lose because your wrong move..
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IMO, trading just like gambling but trading provide better profit if they have great analysis by predicting value on graph. Usually community feedback really help people to predict the value. Just keep trading so you will gain experience and it will lower your chance for lossing

Trading is actually considerable as gambling because of the risk that we can get from it. But none other than that it will always risky.

Sometimes community is predicting bad signals and even there is a crowd that is full of good signals, there will always be a few that will tell bad signals.

And we'll badly lose if we will follow those bad signals.

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Trading is actually considerable as gambling because of the risk that we can get from it. But none other than that it will always risky.
This must be a wrong assumption. If trading is gambling then why we are having two different field for the same type of activities. There are many aspects which we could consider to differentiate trading from gambling and when we are considering trading as gambling then there will be no other results we can expect other than losses.
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.....you don't take profit, and cut loses early

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IMO, trading just like gambling but trading provide better profit if they have great analysis by predicting value on graph. Usually community feedback really help people to predict the value. Just keep trading so you will gain experience and it will lower your chance for lossing
That's right what you say, it is indeed like gambling, but in trading we must be able to master
all market analysis, read the chart and it all is not easy. It took a long time to become a professional Trader.

I think in trading there is little bit more advantage of prediction based on the actual activities related to it which are not possible in gambling. One can not simply predict the next number in the dice or wheel because there is complete random process however in trading if you are looking at stock, one can predict something based on the decisions, trusts and overall market conditions associated with that stock.
Yes that is true. Trading is more wiser to choose over gambling because there is a high chance to earn high profits if you read a lot or study about trading and also if you are updated in the latest updates or news about the coin that you are investing because that is how you can get a high positive chance of right prediction because you will analyze if the news will help for the price or not while gambling is just pure luck because you didn't know how the system or the script of the site works.
Most people lose money in trading because they lack knowledge or don't want to read the news
about the coins that they trade, and this is one of the techniques in trading, namely the fundamental techniques.
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if you panic.

if you get away from your plans.

if you do not use stop loss.

if you insist on to gain from the asset you lose.



Yeah, it all is indeed a cause of fatal and very common in all the people who do it. Because someone may experience disturbance of mind if they are too heavy to think of something that actually can only be obtained by means of figured that calm and unhurried. Try to see around us in order to get a feel for something we haven't felt before, because by looking around us then everything will make a good profit for everyone
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IMO, trading just like gambling but trading provide better profit if they have great analysis by predicting value on graph. Usually community feedback really help people to predict the value. Just keep trading so you will gain experience and it will lower your chance for lossing
That's right what you say, it is indeed like gambling, but in trading we must be able to master
all market analysis, read the chart and it all is not easy. It took a long time to become a professional Trader.

Yes, it take too much time and it's necessay much patience to become a professional trader. Those trying to make fast profit every day aren't trading, they are gambling, and this kind of trader probably will lose their money and won't make profit. Sometimes it looks like gambling because most traders lose money, and the minority part of them make real profit, but it doesn't depend only of luck, patience and skills are very important.

 
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IMO, trading just like gambling but trading provide better profit if they have great analysis by predicting value on graph. Usually community feedback really help people to predict the value. Just keep trading so you will gain experience and it will lower your chance for lossing
That's right what you say, it is indeed like gambling, but in trading we must be able to master
all market analysis, read the chart and it all is not easy. It took a long time to become a professional Trader.

Yes, it take too much time and it's necessay much patience to become a professional trader. Those trying to make fast profit every day aren't trading, they are gambling, and this kind of trader probably will lose their money and won't make profit. Sometimes it looks like gambling because most traders lose money, and the minority part of them make real profit, but it doesn't depend only of luck, patience and skills are very important.
Those people who trade more often are called shorter traders or day traders because they are active traders and they trade everyday and they play the market very well but it think it needs a lot of money to start day trading because if you want to earn serious money you need big capital since the possible move of the price of a coin is just like 1-3% per day. Short term traders will suit to you if you are a well trained and well educated trader but if you are not then you will just stick in long term trading.
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March 03, 2017, 01:43:59 AM
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If you sell your bitcoin last year you lost a big opportunity now because bitcoin is great now the price is 1200$ and i think its not the last one its goes up again untill 1500 by next week or next month.  Those sell their bitcoin earlier they regret it because bitcoin now its not going down again.
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You only lose your bitcoin if you dont know how to manage it. Management will change your life. It can make you more wise about it.
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March 03, 2017, 02:54:51 AM
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If you sell your bitcoin last year you lost a big opportunity now because bitcoin is great now the price is 1200$ and i think its not the last one its goes up again untill 1500 by next week or next month.  Those sell their bitcoin earlier they regret it because bitcoin now its not going down again.

Yeah. But it is not actually a lose because you used it except if you just wasted it on gambling or other useless things. But if you use it on good way just like on education or building your house. You never lose, you just missed the  opportunity to earn more profit. But no regrets if you spend it wisely.

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IMO, trading just like gambling but trading provide better profit if they have great analysis by predicting value on graph. Usually community feedback really help people to predict the value. Just keep trading so you will gain experience and it will lower your chance for lossing
That's right what you say, it is indeed like gambling, but in trading we must be able to master
all market analysis, read the chart and it all is not easy. It took a long time to become a professional Trader.

Yes, it take too much time and it's necessay much patience to become a professional trader. Those trying to make fast profit every day aren't trading, they are gambling, and this kind of trader probably will lose their money and won't make profit. Sometimes it looks like gambling because most traders lose money, and the minority part of them make real profit, but it doesn't depend only of luck, patience and skills are very important.
Those people who trade more often are called shorter traders or day traders because they are active traders and they trade everyday and they play the market very well but it think it needs a lot of money to start day trading because if you want to earn serious money you need big capital since the possible move of the price of a coin is just like 1-3% per day. Short term traders will suit to you if you are a well trained and well educated trader but if you are not then you will just stick in long term trading.
It's just like me, I always monitor the market to take advantage of 3-5% per day. I think if we are
trading altcoin with the longterm it will make us lose if the coin is a coin with low volume.
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Trading is actually considerable as gambling because of the risk that we can get from it. But none other than that it will always risky.
This must be a wrong assumption. If trading is gambling then why we are having two different field for the same type of activities. There are many aspects which we could consider to differentiate trading from gambling and when we are considering trading as gambling then there will be no other results we can expect other than losses.
Yes they are actually different fields of activity but I'm pointing out another thing. And if we can't figure it out, that will turn into losing.

And I'm saying that it can be considerably as gambling we know most of us are into trading and gambling but the same thing with the risk.

So I'm saying that it's all about the risk.

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IMO, trading just like gambling but trading provide better profit if they have great analysis by predicting value on graph. Usually community feedback really help people to predict the value. Just keep trading so you will gain experience and it will lower your chance for lossing
That's right what you say, it is indeed like gambling, but in trading we must be able to master
all market analysis, read the chart and it all is not easy. It took a long time to become a professional Trader.

Yes, it take too much time and it's necessay much patience to become a professional trader. Those trying to make fast profit every day aren't trading, they are gambling, and this kind of trader probably will lose their money and won't make profit. Sometimes it looks like gambling because most traders lose money, and the minority part of them make real profit, but it doesn't depend only of luck, patience and skills are very important.
Those people who trade more often are called shorter traders or day traders because they are active traders and they trade everyday and they play the market very well but it think it needs a lot of money to start day trading because if you want to earn serious money you need big capital since the possible move of the price of a coin is just like 1-3% per day. Short term traders will suit to you if you are a well trained and well educated trader but if you are not then you will just stick in long term trading.
It's just like me, I always monitor the market to take advantage of 3-5% per day. I think if we are
trading altcoin with the longterm it will make us lose if the coin is a coin with low volume.

i don't like the "per day" part but i like the "taking small profit" part.
because it may not be exactly possible to earn profit every day, there are down times and you have to watch the market day and night which is not possible.
but to be satisfied with a small amount of profit like 5% or 15% in 3 days is a good idea. you take the profit and exit. if price falls you have gone out and saved yourself if it goes up you still made a good profit and exited.

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March 03, 2017, 05:49:10 AM
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If you sell your bitcoin last year you lost a big opportunity now because bitcoin is great now the price is 1200$ and i think its not the last one its goes up again untill 1500 by next week or next month.  Those sell their bitcoin earlier they regret it because bitcoin now its not going down again.
Selling it anytime you want as long as you get the profit when selling it is always good. We only make this statement that we lose the opportunity because we have seen a good price now, but human as we are, we do not see the future that is why we are just speculating here.
Now that we have passed the all time high of price, people are coming back again to trust bitcoin so expect there will be another price pump to happen.

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You only loose your bitcoin if you are going to trade your bitcoin with wrong person. If you give your bitcoin first and they will scam you. You will loose your bitcoin.
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Yeah, because now bitcoin still have a good price, and sometime it confused us to sell or not. But better is that if anyone have more than 2 bitcoins than should sell some bitcoins, because in this way, we make profit. Otherwise, hold the bitcoin for a long time, will be not good, becasue it is no guaranty that bitcoin go more high.

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We lose only when we don't know the exact time when we should sell our coins. There are different reasons, mine is my personal expenses that I need to deal with, which is why I am required to sell my coins when I get them. Hodling them for too long is also dangerous, because when we can have a chance to buy back at lower prices, we should sell when the prices are high.
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You Sell.  Wink

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Like I suppose you said that in a sarcastic way. But one of the best options in to buy bitcoins when they are cheap sell a bit when the prices rises  and buy more with that money when the prices fall again.
This way you can keep earning and one day you will become a millionaire.
Hope this method helps anyone who is reading this.

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March 04, 2017, 05:04:53 AM
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We lose only when we don't know the exact time when we should sell our coins. There are different reasons, mine is my personal expenses that I need to deal with, which is why I am required to sell my coins when I get them. Hodling them for too long is also dangerous, because when we can have a chance to buy back at lower prices, we should sell when the prices are high.

No one knows, to be honest. Even the whales and the greatest traders do not know the exact they should be selling their coins or buying some more. Today might be a good price and you can sell if you want to. Only problem is that we tend to hold our coins "a little bit longer" because we think that the price might increase even more. We hold our coins for so long and then when the price is starting to decrease, we panic sell our coins which leads to even more losses.

It'd be better if you just carry on holding your coins. There's no such thing as "holding them for too long" since there's no estimated time for the amount of time you should hold your coins. Anyway, if you hold long enough, you will not be affected by the pump and dump going on.

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March 04, 2017, 05:21:01 AM
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I think this is a reality , Now I am going to Dave my money , which is Bitcoin , in my wallet for month , because each time I am getting loss after the sell.of my  Bitcoin .
From the last two months when I sold my Bitcoin then suddenly the price of Bitcoin rise which is totally annoying for me .
Now here if you will ask for this month payout of signature camapagin  when I sell my Bitcoin then the price rise to about 6000INR that was painful fory heart .
Here I will suggest to everyone to hold your Bitcoin for one month atleast to get a great profit .

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March 04, 2017, 06:38:33 AM
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We will lose if we do sell if theres a price decrease on bitcoins price because you panic when you saw its going down and down sell of less on your bought price then its a sure lose.Holding off for long time will be also good because bitcoin does have good potential for future.
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We lose only when we don't know the exact time when we should sell our coins. There are different reasons, mine is my personal expenses that I need to deal with, which is why I am required to sell my coins when I get them. Hodling them for too long is also dangerous, because when we can have a chance to buy back at lower prices, we should sell when the prices are high.
Currently selling is not better because the price is increasing and as we do not know that when will the price come back to lower so anyone who will sell now will lose the chance to get the profit. In that point I will also agree with OP that you will only lose if you will sell.
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We lose only when we don't know the exact time when we should sell our coins. There are different reasons, mine is my personal expenses that I need to deal with, which is why I am required to sell my coins when I get them. Hodling them for too long is also dangerous, because when we can have a chance to buy back at lower prices, we should sell when the prices are high.
Currently selling is not better because the price is increasing and as we do not know that when will the price come back to lower so anyone who will sell now will lose the chance to get the profit. In that point I will also agree with OP that you will only lose if you will sell.

Basically if you sell at any given time, you will lose the chance to sell your coin at a much higher price like 10k$ or even 100k$. I'm starting to think that actual bitcoiners that are really here for the long haul will never sell his coins. He believes in bitcoin, therefore he believes that the price of bitcoin will increase much more in the coming years. He will either wait for bitcoin to go mainstream or only sell when he really really needs fiat. Once bitcoin gets accepted by merchants, we will never have to sell our coins again.

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March 04, 2017, 01:19:01 PM
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We will lose if we do sell if theres a price decrease on bitcoins price because you panic when you saw its going down and down sell of less on your bought price then its a sure lose.Holding off for long time will be also good because bitcoin does have good potential for future.
The simple way to explain it is you lose when you sell your bitcoins lower than the amount you purchase it, buy low and sell high is always the basic principle that should be followed and that is regardless of the price since we have different appreciation on the market movement of bitcoin.
Some says the price is cheap or it's expensive now, but in the end it's still our decision matters most because we do not want to decide based on others speculation.

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March 04, 2017, 01:48:02 PM
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You only lose if......you go in online gambling using bitcoin. Gambling does not give you good in your life many gamblers now suffer and regretting and ruin their life for their wrong decision to invest in gambling site.  So accept if you lose because your wrong move..

Yeah, if we're going the wrong way is indeed most likely getting a loss for oneself even to all those who are around us. Gambling is indeed a dangerous place, but not always just give bad impact. For there are some things that we can get the (profit) in gambling when we can figure out the right path or gaps, the correct way is that we can analyze the game and create a strategy.The strategy can be obtained if we can analyze the game properly
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March 04, 2017, 03:19:03 PM
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You only lose if......you go in online gambling using bitcoin. Gambling does not give you good in your life many gamblers now suffer and regretting and ruin their life for their wrong decision to invest in gambling site.  So accept if you lose because your wrong move..

Yeah, if we're going the wrong way is indeed most likely getting a loss for oneself even to all those who are around us. Gambling is indeed a dangerous place, but not always just give bad impact. For there are some things that we can get the (profit) in gambling when we can figure out the right path or gaps, the correct way is that we can analyze the game and create a strategy.The strategy can be obtained if we can analyze the game properly

I agree with your opinion, but I have to add that not trying is a way to lose.
Expectations usually change when you have real orders for sale/buying , so just analizing is never enough.
You all should realise that losing is just a way of learning, you learn that the strategy you used is not the best fitment , so you should try another one.

It is also important not to try to follow someone's strategy , because it might be misleading , until you perfectly understand that person's opinion and thoughts.Try to develop your own strategy , by using low stakes , and only after you gather enough knowledge , go for the bigger game.
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March 04, 2017, 03:42:50 PM
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You only lose if......you go in online gambling using bitcoin. Gambling does not give you good in your life many gamblers now suffer and regretting and ruin their life for their wrong decision to invest in gambling site.  So accept if you lose because your wrong move..

Yeah, if we're going the wrong way is indeed most likely getting a loss for oneself even to all those who are around us. Gambling is indeed a dangerous place, but not always just give bad impact. For there are some things that we can get the (profit) in gambling when we can figure out the right path or gaps, the correct way is that we can analyze the game and create a strategy.The strategy can be obtained if we can analyze the game properly

I agree with your opinion, but I have to add that not trying is a way to lose.
Expectations usually change when you have real orders for sale/buying , so just analizing is never enough.
You all should realise that losing is just a way of learning, you learn that the strategy you used is not the best fitment , so you should try another one.

It is also important not to try to follow someone's strategy , because it might be misleading , until you perfectly understand that person's opinion and thoughts.Try to develop your own strategy , by using low stakes , and only after you gather enough knowledge , go for the bigger game.

100% perfectly said, and this all happens when a gambler plays against the strategy in hope of winning on high odds, in dice game their is no strategy so you will be always in loss, ya but if you play in sports betting then their are so many options that you can analyse all games and the team performance and their last meeting result , their are lot of option through which you can analyse the game and predict the result let it be the low odd but you are winning and when you see your ROI after some days you will see that you are in profit.

other then that their are so many traders who are telling that they are in profit by trading but in trading the main point is when ever you are getting profit just go for it because which is high price and which is low price you cannot say so if you have bought on low and seeing the high price and profit just book the profit because which ever is going up will come to down surely.
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March 04, 2017, 04:51:24 PM
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We lose only when we don't know the exact time when we should sell our coins. There are different reasons, mine is my personal expenses that I need to deal with, which is why I am required to sell my coins when I get them. Hodling them for too long is also dangerous, because when we can have a chance to buy back at lower prices, we should sell when the prices are high.

But thing is that we never know when it is exact time to sell them Cheesy We can't predict future, so we can't know how price will change in next hours or days... So we have to risk and to try to predict future.

So most of the times yes, when you sell bitcoins when hoping to buy them later for smaller price you lose. But of course sometimes people win some money this, so i don't think that everyone should hodl.

 
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We lose only when we don't know the exact time when we should sell our coins. There are different reasons, mine is my personal expenses that I need to deal with, which is why I am required to sell my coins when I get them. Hodling them for too long is also dangerous, because when we can have a chance to buy back at lower prices, we should sell when the prices are high.
Currently selling is not better because the price is increasing and as we do not know that when will the price come back to lower so anyone who will sell now will lose the chance to get the profit. In that point I will also agree with OP that you will only lose if you will sell.
in fact currently it will not be a good idea when the price is going to increase more and more and expected that the price of bitcoin will increase. to me i my self holding my bitcoin for next 1 year and after that when the price of bitcoin will increase more and more then i will decide to sell my bitcoin or not.
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We lose only when we don't know the exact time when we should sell our coins. There are different reasons, mine is my personal expenses that I need to deal with, which is why I am required to sell my coins when I get them. Hodling them for too long is also dangerous, because when we can have a chance to buy back at lower prices, we should sell when the prices are high.
I don't think you will loose anything.
Bitcoins are programmed in such a way that,
They will be generated till 2140 ( in the 22 century)
This is because there should be a limitation to a currency .
You can't just generate as much as you want.
Bitcoins that are to be generated will be always same,
But the number of users will increase as the time passes.
So the same thing which was generated for less number of people now it's equal remaining part will be available for more number of users.
As a result cost will definitely increase as the time passes.
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We lose only when we don't know the exact time when we should sell our coins. There are different reasons, mine is my personal expenses that I need to deal with, which is why I am required to sell my coins when I get them. Hodling them for too long is also dangerous, because when we can have a chance to buy back at lower prices, we should sell when the prices are high.
I don't think you will loose anything.
Bitcoins are programmed in such a way that,
They will be generated till 2140 ( in the 22 century)
This is because there should be a limitation to a currency .
You can't just generate as much as you want.
Bitcoins that are to be generated will be always same,
But the number of users will increase as the time passes.
So the same thing which was generated for less number of people now it's equal remaining part will be available for more number of users.
As a result cost will definitely increase as the time passes.

No you got this wrong mate
Bitcoin program is not set to mine till 2141 as far as I remember the maximum amount of bitcoin which the system will allow is 21 million.
And as for now around 17 million is already mined.
And ya even if you see now more users are still increasing daily so price growth is a obvious reason.
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We lose only when we don't know the exact time when we should sell our coins. There are different reasons, mine is my personal expenses that I need to deal with, which is why I am required to sell my coins when I get them. Hodling them for too long is also dangerous, because when we can have a chance to buy back at lower prices, we should sell when the prices are high.

But thing is that we never know when it is exact time to sell them Cheesy We can't predict future, so we can't know how price will change in next hours or days... So we have to risk and to try to predict future.

So most of the times yes, when you sell bitcoins when hoping to buy them later for smaller price you lose. But of course sometimes people win some money this, so i don't think that everyone should hodl.
Yeah sure we can’t predict if the price is going to drop or not, but what we all know by now is that even if the price goes up it always goes down and if it goes down it always goes back up, so even if you sell when the price is high and it does not change and you feel like you lost, remember that the prices will fluctuate to get you second and third chances too.

But in long run you can bitcoin prices keep on increasing. People who do not agree this, selling when their target reaches and regret for their action later. This trend keeps on continuing.
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Chill. Thats not completely true statement or two ambiguous words I suggest. Selling is big step while you do trading. Even a glitch in the charts and you selling at wrong time can lead to big loss. Trading works on the formula of buy/sell and it is always important to sell at the right time or in the worst situation of your trade. If you suggest keeping of bitcoin in your wallet and not in your trade platform then that is okay and is long term beneficial plan. But for trades always "sell"with the proper time.

 
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May 21, 2017, 11:47:24 AM
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Chill. Thats not completely true statement or two ambiguous words I suggest. Selling is big step while you do trading. Even a glitch in the charts and you selling at wrong time can lead to big loss. Trading works on the formula of buy/sell and it is always important to sell at the right time or in the worst situation of your trade. If you suggest keeping of bitcoin in your wallet and not in your trade platform then that is okay and is long term beneficial plan. But for trades always "sell"with the proper time.
Which can bring a big profit saving your coins or trade? Here you can make a choice due to the fact that she has lost fear somewhere or you can be deceived or wrongly acted yourself. So if you have earned it is best to keep bitcoin for a bigger and better price.

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We lose only when we don't know the exact time when we should sell our coins. There are different reasons, mine is my personal expenses that I need to deal with, which is why I am required to sell my coins when I get them. Hodling them for too long is also dangerous, because when we can have a chance to buy back at lower prices, we should sell when the prices are high.

But thing is that we never know when it is exact time to sell them Cheesy We can't predict future, so we can't know how price will change in next hours or days... So we have to risk and to try to predict future.

So most of the times yes, when you sell bitcoins when hoping to buy them later for smaller price you lose. But of course sometimes people win some money this, so i don't think that everyone should hodl.
Yeah sure we can’t predict if the price is going to drop or not, but what we all know by now is that even if the price goes up it always goes down and if it goes down it always goes back up, so even if you sell when the price is high and it does not change and you feel like you lost, remember that the prices will fluctuate to get you second and third chances too.

But in long run you can bitcoin prices keep on increasing. People who do not agree this, selling when their target reaches and regret for their action later. This trend keeps on continuing.
I think it will be still depends in your strategy you should have different margin setup when you are in trading so that every price increase and every price decrease you can make a good profit and decision .. just set a i think 4 tier set different margin is ok for your first tier sell your bitcoin as sample at 15% increase and the 2nd tier 30% and other are different margin..
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May 21, 2017, 12:34:34 PM
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Btc is getting up, there is an expectation to stop at $ 1500 price. But that's just a prediction. Just wait and now is the highest price. Just hold back

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May 21, 2017, 12:52:31 PM
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Btc is getting up, there is an expectation to stop at $ 1500 price. But that's just a prediction. Just wait and now is the highest price. Just hold back

1.5k? dude the price is now breaching the 2k mark. The btcs that I've held on to from last Jan has more than tripled in value. Hopefully this continues for a little while longer then I'd have to sell and wait for the price decline which certainly would come


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May 21, 2017, 01:16:50 PM
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Btc is getting up, there is an expectation to stop at $ 1500 price. But that's just a prediction. Just wait and now is the highest price. Just hold back
It will not stop at that level, bitcoin will temporarily stop for correction but it is just waiting to fuel another pump.
Believe that there are more people now who are interested with bitcoin compared to the previous years and I can feel there are also big investors that are
coming. Actually this year we also have a great progress for altcoins, they are increasing their marketcap into billions and still growing.

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May 21, 2017, 04:02:09 PM
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The topic was created on January 11, 2017. At this time, bitcoin quickly became cheaper. But then the price fluctuated between 800-1000 dollars. It's ridiculous to think about it. It's good that at that time I did not sell my coins

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May 21, 2017, 04:16:16 PM
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The topic was created on January 11, 2017. At this time, bitcoin quickly became cheaper. But then the price fluctuated between 800-1000 dollars. It's ridiculous to think about it. It's good that at that time I did not sell my coins

many investors adopted bitcoin as they see that japan already embraces it. we could say that this is just the beggining for the cryptoworld. we could see bitcoin at around 3000 usd soon on near future. we should just HODL for the coins as we know that this is just the beggining.
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May 21, 2017, 04:25:58 PM
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The topic was created on January 11, 2017. At this time, bitcoin quickly became cheaper. But then the price fluctuated between 800-1000 dollars. It's ridiculous to think about it. It's good that at that time I did not sell my coins

many investors adopted bitcoin as they see that japan already embraces it. we could say that this is just the beggining for the cryptoworld. we could see bitcoin at around 3000 usd soon on near future. we should just HODL for the coins as we know that this is just the beggining.

What you are saying is true but i think their will be some short selling pressure as most of the users transactions are stuck in confirmation due to this the price is not that much fluctuating it.
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May 21, 2017, 06:01:50 PM
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You only lose if you sell at a loss but sometimes you're holding a sinking ship and it's best to just move on.
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May 21, 2017, 06:24:01 PM
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You only lose if you sell at a loss but sometimes you're holding a sinking ship and it's best to just move on.

When do we know exactly if we're just holding trash bags? Bitcoin's price stagnated for a year in 2014-2015 and people called it as the end since there wasn't any new money flowing in the economy. As long as people are still talking about a certain thing or the genuine interest is there, we shouldn't be selling at a loss and just wait for a couple more movements before finalizing our move.

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May 21, 2017, 06:35:45 PM
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You only lose if you sell at a loss but sometimes you're holding a sinking ship and it's best to just move on.

When do we know exactly if we're just holding trash bags? Bitcoin's price stagnated for a year in 2014-2015 and people called it as the end since there wasn't any new money flowing in the economy. As long as people are still talking about a certain thing or the genuine interest is there, we shouldn't be selling at a loss and just wait for a couple more movements before finalizing our move.
so just do not buy trash bags. I try to buy only coins with good fundamental.
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May 21, 2017, 08:21:16 PM
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You only lose if you play until everything is from you is gone.
You will not be a loser if you control your self how to play the game.
If you play and play until your capital no more then you don't have profit.
In every game you should think how to win the game.Your aim is to win not a loser.
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May 21, 2017, 08:24:36 PM
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You only lose if you play until everything is from you is gone.
You will not be a loser if you control your self how to play the game.
If you play and play until your capital no more then you don't have profit.
In every game you should think how to win the game.Your aim is to win not a loser.

If you are reffering to gambling yes, If you keep on playing even if you know that your momentum is now waterfalls, you might lose all. But if you are reffering to trading bitcoin, you know you will lose if you will sell your holding on the lower price that you have gotten it.
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May 21, 2017, 09:00:00 PM
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You only lose if you sell at a loss but sometimes you're holding a sinking ship and it's best to just move on.

There's no lose if you sell at a good price. Profit is definitely a profit and possibly you will only miss those possibly profit that you can get if you'll sell at lower price. But with the current price of bitcoin I believe that most of us already got a profit on it and there's no lose if we are going to sell today but still I'll keep on holding.



 

 

 

 

 

 


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May 21, 2017, 09:46:12 PM
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You only lose if you sell at a loss but sometimes you're holding a sinking ship and it's best to just move on.

There's no lose if you sell at a good price. Profit is definitely a profit and possibly you will only miss those possibly profit that you can get if you'll sell at lower price. But with the current price of bitcoin I believe that most of us already got a profit on it and there's no lose if we are going to sell today but still I'll keep on holding.

You don't get his point -- he's purely referring to the fact that you will only lose if you sell your coins below the price you bought them at. That's really it. His second point is that in some cases it's better to take a hit and move on to prevent further losses. Not sure why you try to come up with things that haven't much to do with the poster you quoted....
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May 21, 2017, 10:13:37 PM
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you only lose if you stop and dont find any motivation to do trading also thinking about changing the past
because the thing that done is done, cant even changed anymore and you cant even know before you try again next time
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May 23, 2017, 04:33:02 AM
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You only lose if you have weak strategy. If you have not find motivation. In trading selling is right investment is right but you need to make some strategies. Motivate your strategies for the enlargement of your money as well as your teretory.
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May 23, 2017, 02:12:06 PM
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You only lose if you sell at a loss but sometimes you're holding a sinking ship and it's best to just move on.

There's no lose if you sell at a good price. Profit is definitely a profit and possibly you will only miss those possibly profit that you can get if you'll sell at lower price. But with the current price of bitcoin I believe that most of us already got a profit on it and there's no lose if we are going to sell today but still I'll keep on holding.

You don't get his point -- he's purely referring to the fact that you will only lose if you sell your coins below the price you bought them at. That's really it. His second point is that in some cases it's better to take a hit and move on to prevent further losses. Not sure why you try to come up with things that haven't much to do with the poster you quoted....

Sometimes the second point will help traders to save some money from a huge loss. But it will depend on the market price. Now it is in very strong position how much time you will hold that much profit you will make. If you sell your coins then no worry you will make a profit, but you will lose some money if the price double.
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May 23, 2017, 02:22:16 PM
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You only lose if you sell at a loss but sometimes you're holding a sinking ship and it's best to just move on.

There's no lose if you sell at a good price. Profit is definitely a profit and possibly you will only miss those possibly profit that you can get if you'll sell at lower price. But with the current price of bitcoin I believe that most of us already got a profit on it and there's no lose if we are going to sell today but still I'll keep on holding.

You don't get his point -- he's purely referring to the fact that you will only lose if you sell your coins below the price you bought them at. That's really it. His second point is that in some cases it's better to take a hit and move on to prevent further losses. Not sure why you try to come up with things that haven't much to do with the poster you quoted....

Sometimes the second point will help traders to save some money from a huge loss. But it will depend on the market price. Now it is in very strong position how much time you will hold that much profit you will make. If you sell your coins then no worry you will make a profit, but you will lose some money if the price double.
Having regrets on early selling of your coin cant really be avoided because its normal to think off that we shouldnt sell those coins on earlier times but i think it should be fine as long we do make money on selling it i think should be fine. its better than having cutting loses on negative side. as long you can patiently wait then its better but not an assurance.

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May 23, 2017, 02:32:13 PM
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You only lose if you miss the chance of not having a single bitcoin today.

But it is still not yet the end.

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I was too careless in putting up the price  Grin

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May 23, 2017, 08:30:03 PM
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You only lose if you miss the chance of not having a single bitcoin today.

But it is still not yet the end.

Indeed you can still buy bitcoin tomorrow  Grin.  As long as we have bitcoin to hold, we will never lose because there is a prediction that a single bitcoin will worth $1 million.  I know it is like a wishful thinking but I hope it will come true  Tongue .
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May 23, 2017, 08:37:43 PM
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You only lose if you would never try it I think?
And also if you can't control yourself I think the lose of the traders isn't really the money but the emotions or being depress after they made some wrong decision.

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1- if you sell the bag at a loss.
2- if you buy high and sell low
3- if you keep buying bullish markets and selling in bearish markets
4- if you donate all you r BTC to me . this wouldn´t be a loss, but a win for the soul:)

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You only lose if you would never try it I think?
And also if you can't control yourself I think the lose of the traders isn't really the money but the emotions or being depress after they made some wrong decision.
to me i think although there are very little chance that lose money in trading bitcoin. because the price of bitcoin is always increasing  and there are very little chances that the price of bitcoin will decrease, some time the price take some correction and the price fell down a little which some time cause panic selling and can cause lost for you, but there are no other chance to lose money.

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May 24, 2017, 01:47:03 AM
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You only lose if you would never try it I think?
And also if you can't control yourself I think the lose of the traders isn't really the money but the emotions or being depress after they made some wrong decision.
to me i think although there are very little chance that lose money in trading bitcoin. because the price of bitcoin is always increasing  and there are very little chances that the price of bitcoin will decrease, some time the price take some correction and the price fell down a little which some time cause panic selling and can cause lost for you, but there are no other chance to lose money.
I think bitcoin trading is not too good for now because the range of value is too far from buy to sell, and i think no one like this. If you will try to trade with this you will lose more money i think. Just be wise on trading, must be try other coin to trade and make profit.
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May 24, 2017, 03:16:30 AM
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You only lose if you would never try it I think?
And also if you can't control yourself I think the lose of the traders isn't really the money but the emotions or being depress after they made some wrong decision.
to me i think although there are very little chance that lose money in trading bitcoin. because the price of bitcoin is always increasing  and there are very little chances that the price of bitcoin will decrease, some time the price take some correction and the price fell down a little which some time cause panic selling and can cause lost for you, but there are no other chance to lose money.
I think bitcoin trading is not too good for now because the range of value is too far from buy to sell, and i think no one like this. If you will try to trade with this you will lose more money i think. Just be wise on trading, must be try other coin to trade and make profit.
If the value of bitcoin is too far from buy and sell then it is better to trade because you can take advantage of that gap of the price and you can bid at the sell price and put an ask order or sell order at the current asking price. It is called short term trading and i think it is effective like this moment which  the price has a huge gap between buy and sell.
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May 24, 2017, 04:19:00 AM
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Well there are various of reason why you lose.
You're a gambling addict. Gambling considered to be the most risky action you can take. There are many people who got engukf to gambling not knowing that their wealth is fading and some can't be stop that they are doing unnecessary things just to gamble like stealing.
You've made a mistake in trading and buy and sell. Well some considered trading as a gamble and if you don't have enough knowledge, you will lose in the end no matter how many is your money.
You gave up early. Well some of us lose in life or in business because we always expect fast results not knowing that it takes time or it takes a leap of faith first.
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May 24, 2017, 04:42:47 AM
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Well if you are profligately​ spending your treasure into something that is not worth the spend then you are really going to lose like you are a impulsive gambler that don't quit even if you're losing too much. One of the things also why people lose is that they are lacking knowlegde on something and recklessly spend their money without having background knowledge on that particular field. Every moment of life is a battle field you'll lose if you give up, in BTC and in real life we can't just give up to something because it is hard.
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May 24, 2017, 04:51:12 AM
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You only lose if you would never try it I think?
And also if you can't control yourself I think the lose of the traders isn't really the money but the emotions or being depress after they made some wrong decision.
to me i think although there are very little chance that lose money in trading bitcoin. because the price of bitcoin is always increasing  and there are very little chances that the price of bitcoin will decrease, some time the price take some correction and the price fell down a little which some time cause panic selling and can cause lost for you, but there are no other chance to lose money.
I think bitcoin trading is not too good for now because the range of value is too far from buy to sell, and i think no one like this. If you will try to trade with this you will lose more money i think. Just be wise on trading, must be try other coin to trade and make profit.
Not too good to invest nowadays but too good to those who has currently investment and is holding a large sum number of bitcoin nowadays.
If you have the right strategy and you are enjoying trading I am sure you will enjoy and earn in trading, losing should be clear to us that it is normal and can encounter sometimes.
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May 24, 2017, 06:13:24 AM
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You only lose if you would never try it I think?
And also if you can't control yourself I think the lose of the traders isn't really the money but the emotions or being depress after they made some wrong decision.
to me i think although there are very little chance that lose money in trading bitcoin. because the price of bitcoin is always increasing  and there are very little chances that the price of bitcoin will decrease, some time the price take some correction and the price fell down a little which some time cause panic selling and can cause lost for you, but there are no other chance to lose money.
I think bitcoin trading is not too good for now because the range of value is too far from buy to sell, and i think no one like this. If you will try to trade with this you will lose more money i think. Just be wise on trading, must be try other coin to trade and make profit.
Not too good to invest nowadays but too good to those who has currently investment and is holding a large sum number of bitcoin nowadays.
If you have the right strategy and you are enjoying trading I am sure you will enjoy and earn in trading, losing should be clear to us that it is normal and can encounter sometimes.
IMHO, you are wrong, you can ride with bitcoins success if you are aiming for long term profit, the price will continue to rise due to big demand and if you will not buy you might be having a regrets in the future. Only if you are a day trader will you wait for the price dump, but the way I see it, I think it will take time before it will happen to dump again.

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May 24, 2017, 10:47:30 AM
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You only lose if you would never try it I think?
And also if you can't control yourself I think the lose of the traders isn't really the money but the emotions or being depress after they made some wrong decision.
to me i think although there are very little chance that lose money in trading bitcoin. because the price of bitcoin is always increasing  and there are very little chances that the price of bitcoin will decrease, some time the price take some correction and the price fell down a little which some time cause panic selling and can cause lost for you, but there are no other chance to lose money.
I think bitcoin trading is not too good for now because the range of value is too far from buy to sell, and i think no one like this. If you will try to trade with this you will lose more money i think. Just be wise on trading, must be try other coin to trade and make profit.
Not too good to invest nowadays but too good to those who has currently investment and is holding a large sum number of bitcoin nowadays.
If you have the right strategy and you are enjoying trading I am sure you will enjoy and earn in trading, losing should be clear to us that it is normal and can encounter sometimes.
IMHO, you are wrong, you can ride with bitcoins success if you are aiming for long term profit, the price will continue to rise due to big demand and if you will not buy you might be having a regrets in the future. Only if you are a day trader will you wait for the price dump, but the way I see it, I think it will take time before it will happen to dump again.

still, I think this current price of btc is too risky now for trade. I'm nit sure if it can go beyond 2.5k though there's a chance that it will, but buying btc at a price above 2k is not advisable. try to play woth other altcoins instead and try tto make your btc grow by trading with them

 
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You only lost if you done a mistake.And its hard to get in touch again if thats happened.Especially trust must remain if that so was remove you will lost everything and you cant move easily.
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You only lose if you would never try it I think?
And also if you can't control yourself I think the lose of the traders isn't really the money but the emotions or being depress after they made some wrong decision.
to me i think although there are very little chance that lose money in trading bitcoin. because the price of bitcoin is always increasing  and there are very little chances that the price of bitcoin will decrease, some time the price take some correction and the price fell down a little which some time cause panic selling and can cause lost for you, but there are no other chance to lose money.
I think bitcoin trading is not too good for now because the range of value is too far from buy to sell, and i think no one like this. If you will try to trade with this you will lose more money i think. Just be wise on trading, must be try other coin to trade and make profit.
It is the time to buy more and more that is enough for the profit and if you buy enough then you have to wait for longer time or we can say till the time when bitcoin price increase up to its peak. After that you have to think about the trade.
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You only lose if you would never try it I think?
And also if you can't control yourself I think the lose of the traders isn't really the money but the emotions or being depress after they made some wrong decision.
to me i think although there are very little chance that lose money in trading bitcoin. because the price of bitcoin is always increasing  and there are very little chances that the price of bitcoin will decrease, some time the price take some correction and the price fell down a little which some time cause panic selling and can cause lost for you, but there are no other chance to lose money.
I think bitcoin trading is not too good for now because the range of value is too far from buy to sell, and i think no one like this. If you will try to trade with this you will lose more money i think. Just be wise on trading, must be try other coin to trade and make profit.
It is the time to buy more and more that is enough for the profit and if you buy enough then you have to wait for longer time or we can say till the time when bitcoin price increase up to its peak. After that you have to think about the trade.

The price is way too high for me to buy right now. I'm selling a little as the price keeps going up. There's got to be a correction sometime soon to buy back in.
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May 25, 2017, 01:54:27 AM
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You can never lose if you sell at a profit. This can be potentially bad advice. you can lose if you never sell in the potential case that bitcoin crashes to 1000 and you bought at 2000. its going to be a rough trip emotionally for you if it does. dont be so blind and follow the hype. making safer decisions is always better than taking unnecessary risk.
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You can never lose if you sell at a profit. This can be potentially bad advice. you can lose if you never sell in the potential case that bitcoin crashes to 1000 and you bought at 2000. its going to be a rough trip emotionally for you if it does. dont be so blind and follow the hype. making safer decisions is always better than taking unnecessary risk.
That's correct, however we want to earn more and at this very moment it is not advisable to sell bitcoin to gain more.
When there is a pump, it's time to hold and you sell it when it starts to dump.

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You only lose if you sell. HODL and have balls of steel and it'll be worth it. Especially of you are into trading altcoins, hold it for as long as you can.
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May 25, 2017, 06:56:39 AM
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Losing is part of success if you don't try you don't know which part of decision you fail. You lose if you don't try.
In our bitcoin market the price is not stable so the chances to high to get a profit, why? Because in trading they allot of time, they need to monitor for the update of the price. In trading we will not lose more money, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1586431.0 in this topic it is true, the important things to make a money is time!

If you don't try you always blaming yourself.

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May 25, 2017, 08:00:32 AM
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You can never lose if you sell at a profit. This can be potentially bad advice. you can lose if you never sell in the potential case that bitcoin crashes to 1000 and you bought at 2000. its going to be a rough trip emotionally for you if it does. dont be so blind and follow the hype. making safer decisions is always better than taking unnecessary risk.
That's correct, however we want to earn more and at this very moment it is not advisable to sell bitcoin to gain more.
When there is a pump, it's time to hold and you sell it when it starts to dump.
Don't wait for your altcoins ro dump before you sell it. If it starts to dump, just hold it as it could try breaking its resistance which can lead you more profit if you prefer to hold. Just place your exit point in a loing where in it doesn't dumps so that there is no devalue in your money.

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May 25, 2017, 09:12:05 AM
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You can never lose if you sell at a profit. This can be potentially bad advice. you can lose if you never sell in the potential case that bitcoin crashes to 1000 and you bought at 2000. its going to be a rough trip emotionally for you if it does. dont be so blind and follow the hype. making safer decisions is always better than taking unnecessary risk.
That's correct, however we want to earn more and at this very moment it is not advisable to sell bitcoin to gain more.
When there is a pump, it's time to hold and you sell it when it starts to dump.
Don't wait for your altcoins ro dump before you sell it. If it starts to dump, just hold it as it could try breaking its resistance which can lead you more profit if you prefer to hold. Just place your exit point in a loing where in it doesn't dumps so that there is no devalue in your money.
That is right but now the altcoins are dumping because of the bitcoin pump and many investors are going to bitcoin because of the sudden pump so I think the best way to do for now is sell your altcoins and then go to the bitcoin because that may continue the pump.



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May 25, 2017, 10:30:52 AM
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You only lose if you would never try it I think?
And also if you can't control yourself I think the lose of the traders isn't really the money but the emotions or being depress after they made some wrong decision.
to me i think although there are very little chance that lose money in trading bitcoin. because the price of bitcoin is always increasing  and there are very little chances that the price of bitcoin will decrease, some time the price take some correction and the price fell down a little which some time cause panic selling and can cause lost for you, but there are no other chance to lose money.
I think bitcoin trading is not too good for now because the range of value is too far from buy to sell, and i think no one like this. If you will try to trade with this you will lose more money i think. Just be wise on trading, must be try other coin to trade and make profit.
If the value of bitcoin is too far from buy and sell then it is better to trade because you can take advantage of that gap of the price and you can bid at the sell price and put an ask order or sell order at the current asking price. It is called short term trading and i think it is effective like this moment which  the price has a huge gap between buy and sell.

Exactly once and I prefer to use the bitcoin in seeking big profits. Because judging from the price of the bitcoin is a pretty good, will definitely make me get huge profits in the near future. And also now bitcoin is already becoming one of the world's attention, it is likely that the price of the bitcoin is extremely high. So, from now on together to figure out a way to get the bitcoin, then in the future can get many advantages
 
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You give up. Our life is like one of a hospital apparatus that checked if we are still breathing(still alive), in short in life we have lots of ups and downs. If you fall, it's up for you to get up. I hardly recommend each and everyone to get up on your feet. The concept of giving up can be likened in business. If you lose money, because for example an investment failed. It is up to you if you want to get up. I heard of a story of a one millionaire that he sold all of his property to a man saying that there is a land the man claimed there are lots of gold. He hired men to dug that land. And found nothing, those golds that the man claimed doesn't exists. And then one day, one of his men reported that there are lots of oil in that land. He rejoiced and became a multi-millionaire. Remember WE LOSE, BUT WE SHOULD NEVER QUIT!!!
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You give up. Our life is like one of a hospital apparatus that checked if we are still breathing(still alive), in short in life we have lots of ups and downs. If you fall, it's up for you to get up. I hardly recommend each and everyone to get up on your feet. The concept of giving up can be likened in business. If you lose money, because for example an investment failed. It is up to you if you want to get up. I heard of a story of a one millionaire that he sold all of his property to a man saying that there is a land the man claimed there are lots of gold. He hired men to dug that land. And found nothing, those golds that the man claimed doesn't exists. And then one day, one of his men reported that there are lots of oil in that land. He rejoiced and became a multi-millionaire. Remember WE LOSE, BUT WE SHOULD NEVER QUIT!!!
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May 26, 2017, 04:31:36 AM
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You give up. Our life is like one of a hospital apparatus that checked if we are still breathing(still alive), in short in life we have lots of ups and downs. If you fall, it's up for you to get up. I hardly recommend each and everyone to get up on your feet. The concept of giving up can be likened in business. If you lose money, because for example an investment failed. It is up to you if you want to get up. I heard of a story of a one millionaire that he sold all of his property to a man saying that there is a land the man claimed there are lots of gold. He hired men to dug that land. And found nothing, those golds that the man claimed doesn't exists. And then one day, one of his men reported that there are lots of oil in that land. He rejoiced and became a multi-millionaire. Remember WE LOSE, BUT WE SHOULD NEVER QUIT!!!

What a nice fairy tale. I wonder if that would ever wonder if you invested in an altcoin and the devs have scammed the people. What's dead is dead in altcoin trading, and most things in life in general. There are times when a bad thing is replaced by a good thing but that's mostly not the case. You have to assume that something that's dead will remain dead. Plus, for your fairy tale, doesn't mean that will happen to you. It's good to hear such stories but they are called "fictional" for a reason.

There are times when you also have to quit. For example, you try and pursue your singing career but you're not just good at it. Not quitting will lead to a never ending story of you getting hit by reality that you're not for singing. The "lose but never quit" sometimes is a bad thing. Multiple times you'd say "I should have quit sooner" so you could have focused on better stuffs.

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Maybe not, simple answer is sometimes we need to save our fund with cut loss. The second answer is how we can make profit if we don't sell? Always buy and buy never sell, this is trade not saving. Last answer is how good your strategy? I believe we can loss if we don't have a good strategy and discipline.  There's risk for everything and the question is are you ready?. Have a nice day.

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The second answer is how we can make profit if we don't sell? Always buy and buy never sell, this is trade not saving. Last answer is how good your strategy? I believe we can loss if we don't have a good strategy and discipline.  There's risk for everything and the question is are you ready?. Have a nice day.
You make and you enjoy your profits by spending direct bitcoins if you never ever preferring selling bitcoins. If you argue you do not have local bitcoin acceptance, then you must wait for those merchants to start accepting bitcoin payments. (Otherwise you can start a local business with bitcoin payments), So, selling is not a mandatory action for every bitcoiner and especially for those who are believing into future of bitcoins.
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Trading isnt hard if you know what are you doing. Without proper knowledge it is impossible to gain something over markets.There is only one strategy which works on uptrend : Buy and hold Smiley
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May 31, 2017, 03:01:57 AM
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Trading isnt hard if you know what are you doing. Without proper knowledge it is impossible to gain something over markets.There is only one strategy which works on uptrend : Buy and hold Smiley

That's the rule of thumb. Buy low, hold it, and then sell high. But when should you actually buy? Is the price actually low? Is it going to go up again? How long should you hold it? Is this price high enough for you to sell? Those are the very basic questions that you'd come up with along with things like "Is this crowdsale reach their minimum cap?", "Is this all worth doing?" "Should I let go of this coin even when I'm going to lose huge amount of money?"

You barely touched the tip of the iceberg. There's tons of things you have to consider on trading and most of the time it's not going to be an uptrend. Sometimes you would have to sell your x coins to buy y coins. Sometimes you lose some so you can get some profit on a different coin.

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May 31, 2017, 04:00:07 AM
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It may be a trading strategy to buy,hold and sell, this method may be used in trading.
Certainly in every trade (both forex trading and altcoin trading) requires little precision in analyzing price movements that will occur in the market in order to obtain the benefits as expected. Nevertheless sometimes in trading is often wrong in the analysis because it is accompanied by high emotions and greed who want to get big profits resulting in less focus in reading price movements that cause losses.
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May 31, 2017, 04:52:30 AM
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Doing the actual sell will not make us always lose. Because it is an option that has been considered. Losing and winning in trading is a common thing, we can not predict everything correctly. Selling and buying bitcoin at the right time can bring us to profit.
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You only lose if you sell is why people become bagholders whenever the price goes down. They are waiting for it to go back up, in the case of bitcoin I will agree but too often I've seen altcoin bagholders convinced the price will recover when it never does. Be careful and know what you are investing in.
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May 31, 2017, 06:30:36 AM
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I bought bitcoin when the price was 750$. I keep them in my wallet, I never think I lost something, because trade is not game little patient and everything will be ok. So don't worry, I hope the price will be back in 1000$ soon)

I am hoping that you keep your Bitcoin on your wallet even up to now because the value is now approaching $2,000 though it already reached the $2700 level but it retreated due to the expected correction.

Bitcoin should be viewed as long-term and those people who just kept them in their wallets are actually so happy to later on realized that they got a gem right in there just by trusting Bitcoin.
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You only lose if you sell is why people become bagholders whenever the price goes down. They are waiting for it to go back up, in the case of bitcoin I will agree but too often I've seen altcoin bagholders convinced the price will recover when it never does. Be careful and know what you are investing in.

You lose if you invest without doing proper research and information. Almost definitely if you do random trades, you might as well just gamble your money in dice. Also, you lose if you don't have enough composure because this will make you commit wrong rash decisions that would affect your trade in a largely negative way

 
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June 02, 2017, 02:44:16 PM
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You lose if you don't do what you want. A lot of times in our day to day life we are affected from other people - family - friends.
This is why most people are like a sheep. We watch what is the herd doing and we do the same. Because if you go out from the herd you are individual and this is not accepted in our world.
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You lose if you invest without doing proper research and information. Almost definitely if you do random trades, you might as well just gamble your money in dice. Also, you lose if you don't have enough composure because this will make you commit wrong rash decisions that would affect your trade in a largely negative way

These are common mistakes committed by newbies on trading or trader wannabes. But seasoned traders have system they follow so they will not fall to these errors. They are harder to shake even if their trade are going south.

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June 02, 2017, 03:49:22 PM
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You only lose if you sell is why people become bagholders whenever the price goes down. They are waiting for it to go back up, in the case of bitcoin I will agree but too often I've seen altcoin bagholders convinced the price will recover when it never does. Be careful and know what you are investing in.

You lose if you invest without doing proper research and information. Almost definitely if you do random trades, you might as well just gamble your money in dice. Also, you lose if you don't have enough composure because this will make you commit wrong rash decisions that would affect your trade in a largely negative way

Yes maybe what you mentioned is correct, IMO, in trading, we should be able to
understand all aspects of coins which we trade. Yes, patience is a major key in trading.
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You only lose if you sell is why people become bagholders whenever the price goes down. They are waiting for it to go back up, in the case of bitcoin I will agree but too often I've seen altcoin bagholders convinced the price will recover when it never does. Be careful and know what you are investing in.

You lose if you invest without doing proper research and information. Almost definitely if you do random trades, you might as well just gamble your money in dice. Also, you lose if you don't have enough composure because this will make you commit wrong rash decisions that would affect your trade in a largely negative way

Yes maybe what you mentioned is correct, IMO, in trading, we should be able to
understand all aspects of coins which we trade. Yes, patience is a major key in trading.
Success comes only to the user who trades for the first time and has a good enough amount of information and knowledge, that's when success really does exist. Probably need to constantly define Out of time for training to become a successful trader.

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June 02, 2017, 06:54:13 PM
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You Sell.  Wink



The best time for to do now. More HODL and more lose. I sold them over $1100. How lucky me.

If the other bad news will be coming.
The HODL will get the another lost. For those people trade bitcoin right now.


You could have hold more as the current bitcoin price is over $2,000. We should hold more as am seeing bitcoin trading over $3,500 before the end of this year. Op inspiration is very high as when I think about the sinking ship I was move. May bitcoin not sinking now ooo.
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June 02, 2017, 07:16:48 PM
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You lose if you don't do what you want. A lot of times in our day to day life we are affected from other people - family - friends.
This is why most people are like a sheep. We watch what is the herd doing and we do the same. Because if you go out from the herd you are individual and this is not accepted in our world.
Hard facts. But when people are not aware of how long they can keep their bitcoin holding and when and what prices they can go for profit booking, it would be very difficult for them to come out into reality of making use of their long holding bitcoins. Personally we are being influenced by our near and dears and hence some people are not preferring to hold and booking profits just by their close people's suggestions.

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June 02, 2017, 08:56:52 PM
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Trading isnt hard if you know what are you doing. Without proper knowledge it is impossible to gain something over markets.There is only one strategy which works on uptrend : Buy and hold Smiley
Buy and hold is the job of investors and that is good for those people who do not know about trade and who want to get the profit. They have to by bitcoin and for getting a high profit they have to hold for longer time. While for getting involved in trade they have to learn a lot of strategies about trade.
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June 02, 2017, 11:36:50 PM
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You only lose if you sell is why people become bagholders whenever the price goes down. They are waiting for it to go back up, in the case of bitcoin I will agree but too often I've seen altcoin bagholders convinced the price will recover when it never does. Be careful and know what you are investing in.

Because you sold some, you lose? No, you will not lose if you sold and you got profit, profit is profit no matter how much you sold that at lower price, there's nothing to lose. And you will only lose if you sold it lower than your investment so that's a clear mistake of yours.

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June 03, 2017, 12:45:11 AM
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What if you sell and then BTC prices crash? I dont understand how someone can be a permanent bull and be so enthusiastic to the point where they are financially suicidal. I believe that bitcoin is the future but I also know there is a high risk involved with any sort of cryptocurrency investment.
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June 03, 2017, 01:31:49 AM
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You only lose if you sell is why people become bagholders whenever the price goes down. They are waiting for it to go back up, in the case of bitcoin I will agree but too often I've seen altcoin bagholders convinced the price will recover when it never does. Be careful and know what you are investing in.

Because you sold some, you lose? No, you will not lose if you sold and you got profit, profit is profit no matter how much you sold that at lower price, there's nothing to lose. And you will only lose if you sold it lower than your investment so that's a clear mistake of yours.
You only lose if you sell your bitcoins or any kind of coin for a lower price than your bought price but there is a saying that you will get a loss if you will sell it for a lower price so it is better to just hold when the price is high and keep holding until the price get higher than your buying price so you can get profits and sell.
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I will lose if I do not control my account in more than 1 week. Well, sometimes altcoin prices suddenly dropped so much within 1 week, and that sometimes make me lose. Well, sometimes it's better to keep control of the market, and especially the coins I hold.
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I will lose if I do not control my account in more than 1 week. Well, sometimes altcoin prices suddenly dropped so much within 1 week, and that sometimes make me lose. Well, sometimes it's better to keep control of the market, and especially the coins I hold.
Being a trader we really always monitor the price movement because what we are looking is the right timing which is to
sell or to buy. I have an app in my phone and it is uploaded the information all the coins that I am keeping an eye.

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You only lose if you sell.
This phrase exactly suits for today's situation.Every one has started realizing that bitcoin has great future and its price is still to rise.Despite BU issues,bitcoin has performed successfully and has reached $2416 from $1000.It is already predicted that bitcoin price would soon cross $3000.Newbies may fear that the price could fall down and get panic,but experienced investors would never sell their bitcoins as they have prior experience about bitcoin price movement.So you only would be the loser if you sell.
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You only lose if you sell.
This phrase exactly suits for today's situation.Every one has started realizing that bitcoin has great future and its price is still to rise.Despite BU issues,bitcoin has performed successfully and has reached $2416 from $1000.It is already predicted that bitcoin price would soon cross $3000.Newbies may fear that the price could fall down and get panic,but experienced investors would never sell their bitcoins as they have prior experience about bitcoin price movement.So you only would be the loser if you sell.
By the starting of the year bitcoin experienced several big problems starting from a BU crash, splitting of the chain, loss of support from the miners, concensus, fake volume crisis in China making the collapse in the entire cryptocurrency network. Bitcoin has overcome all these factors in a short and has been going good without crashes. Sometimes deep falls were represented as crash. Here this time it cannot be mentioned as a crash, because the price retains quicker than ever.

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You lose if you don't do what you want. A lot of times in our day to day life we are affected from other people - family - friends.
This is why most people are like a sheep. We watch what is the herd doing and we do the same. Because if you go out from the herd you are individual and this is not accepted in our world.

We can't blame ourselves. It's simply our instinct to follow the crowd. We're thinking that everyone's doing it, so it's probably the best thing out there. In reality, you can be a sheep and still be in good hands. But you can also not follow the crowd, do silly stuffs, do mistakes and learn from it, and it the end be in a good place. A lot of things can happen but following the crowd and listening to other people alone doesn't always guarantee failure. And just because you finally chose to become different, doesn't mean that you'll do better than most.

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You only lose if you can't control your greed and emotion,
And if you wont try it there are so many time that I wish I have bought that coin and gain some huge profit through it,
But I didn't do it so I really feel sorry for my self for not trying it.
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I'm starting to hold more and more coins especially the ones in Exodus wallet!

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June 03, 2017, 04:59:02 PM
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You only lose if you can't control your greed and emotion,
And if you wont try it there are so many time that I wish I have bought that coin and gain some huge profit through it,
But I didn't do it so I really feel sorry for my self for not trying it.

I also regret some of my actions. Or rather about my inaction.
That's why I would advise investing in different coins, because then you can regret that you did not get a profit from it

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June 03, 2017, 08:33:32 PM
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You only lose if you sell is why people become bagholders whenever the price goes down. They are waiting for it to go back up, in the case of bitcoin I will agree but too often I've seen altcoin bagholders convinced the price will recover when it never does. Be careful and know what you are investing in.

Because you sold some, you lose? No, you will not lose if you sold and you got profit, profit is profit no matter how much you sold that at lower price, there's nothing to lose. And you will only lose if you sold it lower than your investment so that's a clear mistake of yours.
You only lose if you sell your bitcoins or any kind of coin for a lower price than your bought price but there is a saying that you will get a loss if you will sell it for a lower price so it is better to just hold when the price is high and keep holding until the price get higher than your buying price so you can get profits and sell.

Yes that is the only way to lose and also when you are gambling it somewhere. But if you sold some a lower price but you've got some profit with that price, it's still considerable that you earned some amount so there's nothing to lose, when you got profit whether it is low or high, you are still got some profit with it.

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June 04, 2017, 11:53:17 PM
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What if you sell and then BTC prices crash? I dont understand how someone can be a permanent bull and be so enthusiastic to the point where they are financially suicidal. I believe that bitcoin is the future but I also know there is a high risk involved with any sort of cryptocurrency investment.
Well this is a game of the bulls and bears you have to think far away of the minimal risk factors. One can’t win till that time till go through a risk even if we take the example of a movies the hero of every movie go through a risk and after he is succeeded he becomes the hero. Same is the case here you have to be a real life hero.
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June 04, 2017, 11:54:44 PM
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I will lose if I do not control my account in more than 1 week. Well, sometimes altcoin prices suddenly dropped so much within 1 week, and that sometimes make me lose. Well, sometimes it's better to keep control of the market, and especially the coins I hold.
Being a trader we really always monitor the price movement because what we are looking is the right timing which is to
sell or to buy. I have an app in my phone and it is uploaded the information all the coins that I am keeping an eye.
Yes I agree you have to keep an eye on your investment all the time, we never know the exact timing of the prices getting high or low for this purpose we are supposed to have a full time monitoring system for our investment.
This is known as the portfolio management and those who are good enough to keep yourself updated all the time are the best managers and earners.

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For me you only lose if you are too greedy in all aspect of earning method in bitcoin, do not too greedy to earn big amount of bitcoin quickly because all methods is base of the value and prediction in bitcoin.
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For me you only lose if you are too greedy in all aspect of earning method in bitcoin, do not too greedy to earn big amount of bitcoin quickly because all methods is base of the value and prediction in bitcoin.

Greed does play a big role in losing money in anything. Like in gambling and investing. If you hold to long and never sell at even near the peak then you will likely just settle for a few percentage income or even for losses because you missed your chance when the prices were pretty high. I've experience this a lot of times, especially with bitcoins.
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I always lost when I was too greedy. Like when ETH was going up to 180$ I waited for the peaks and selled, then it was cheaper like 10$ and I buyed in. I lost my nerve when it hitted 100$ again. I am such a fool. Now I just hold that shit.
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June 06, 2017, 03:04:58 PM
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I lose if my accounts have no income. For me, if I did not participate/joined in the signature campaign/ other way to earn bitcoin I have no chance to increase my income (only trading). As a student, it’s hard to give a full time to focus on bitcointalk instead they need more time for schooling. In this situation I spend 2-3 hours for bitcoinTalk, I think it is not enough for my multiple accounts to manage their activity/posts. To avoid this what if, I have a time management and I join to altcoin (campaign w/ small posts needed), even I have no fixed income but I have a sure income that I waits.

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June 06, 2017, 04:02:31 PM
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For me you only lose if you are too greedy in all aspect of earning method in bitcoin, do not too greedy to earn big amount of bitcoin quickly because all methods is base of the value and prediction in bitcoin.

Greed does play a big role in losing money in anything. Like in gambling and investing. If you hold to long and never sell at even near the peak then you will likely just settle for a few percentage income or even for losses because you missed your chance when the prices were pretty high. I've experience this a lot of times, especially with bitcoins.
But I do not agree that you are losing for not selling at peaks. Moreover it is not actual losses, you are missing some portions of your profits hence it should not be considered as pure losses.

Greed may kill your profits but I am not ready to accept with the case of bitcoin holding, only people who are greedy, holding till date and other have booked profits at $800/$1000/$1500/$2000 levels itself. Still, they were not losing, but if they were greedy they might got another portions of big profits.

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you only when loss of patient attack so hold and hold

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I lose if I will sell it now, I would rather still hold my bitcoin. Even the price may crash now I do believe it will rise again. Patience is a virtue, determination will surely brings you into success.
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...you do not follow your strategy. And you must have a strategy.
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June 06, 2017, 09:48:52 PM
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I lose if I will sell it now, I would rather still hold my bitcoin. Even the price may crash now I do believe it will rise again. Patience is a virtue, determination will surely brings you into success.

And not just you will lose but you will also regret it. This is going to be a forever loss for you but still while it is early don't try to give up and just keep on waiting. Everything will be fine soon when the price of bitcoin starts to land at $3k and above, you only need to believe that it will land there as the demand is now increasing.



 

 

 

 

 

 


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I lose if I will sell it now, I would rather still hold my bitcoin. Even the price may crash now I do believe it will rise again. Patience is a virtue, determination will surely brings you into success.

And not just you will lose but you will also regret it. This is going to be a forever loss for you but still while it is early don't try to give up and just keep on waiting. Everything will be fine soon when the price of bitcoin starts to land at $3k and above, you only need to believe that it will land there as the demand is now increasing.

A couple of months back, this current price we're on right now is a target for the end of this year and yet here we are. People are now starting to believe in btc and holding for a time seems the most ideal decision at the moment. You can't lose with bitcoin, just be patient

 
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I lose if I will sell it now, I would rather still hold my bitcoin. Even the price may crash now I do believe it will rise again. Patience is a virtue, determination will surely brings you into success.

And not just you will lose but you will also regret it. This is going to be a forever loss for you but still while it is early don't try to give up and just keep on waiting. Everything will be fine soon when the price of bitcoin starts to land at $3k and above, you only need to believe that it will land there as the demand is now increasing.
bitcoin is providing opportunities to people from time to time. those people who are early investors are now enjoying the great profit of bitcoin, but those people who have invested money in bitcoin late at 2016 they are also enjoying more that double of their profit and so i am sure that those people who will invest money in bitcoin right now they will also be enjoying a good profit in near future, so i do not think that there is any reason to regret but need to pick up the right time and get profit from bitcoin and forget about the past.
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I lose if I will sell it now, I would rather still hold my bitcoin. Even the price may crash now I do believe it will rise again. Patience is a virtue, determination will surely brings you into success.

And not just you will lose but you will also regret it. This is going to be a forever loss for you but still while it is early don't try to give up and just keep on waiting. Everything will be fine soon when the price of bitcoin starts to land at $3k and above, you only need to believe that it will land there as the demand is now increasing.
I guess this scenario may continue for decades for sure. Because experts are not seeing any stable value for bitcoins in near future and we can expect prices to keep on rising due to continuous demand from new investors and fixed total supply cap. I guess selling might provide losses in all possible means, maybe just using it for our daily needs may give you some satisfaction by not bothering any future values.
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June 09, 2017, 09:18:43 PM
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What if you sell and then BTC prices crash? I dont understand how someone can be a permanent bull and be so enthusiastic to the point where they are financially suicidal. I believe that bitcoin is the future but I also know there is a high risk involved with any sort of cryptocurrency investment.
the first point is that if everyone will continue to sell then the demand will reduce and supply will increase so the price will decrease.
The other point is that it is true that bitcoin has a future and it is also true with it that in crypto currencies if you will think to invest in bitcoin then you are not at risk but the profit will come to you.
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I think depending on how we want to get what we want, if we want to profit a lot means we need big capital.

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If you never try. Not only if you sell btc but general in real life too. You never know what will happen if... Try to do something new but be careful. That's all, and that's my motto, as well Wink

You only lose if you stop trying and believing.  We all know that not all people believes in bitcoin. Some people also think that bitcoin is a scam.  But I believe that it is not wrong to try. Its better to try and failed than  not to try at all. But what if you don't try and those who tried benefitted from it, surely you will regret. So, you only lose if you stop trying and believing. 
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if you don't know where to stop and where to start.- this is for traders. For investor, you only lose when you stop buying.
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if you don't know where to stop and where to start.- this is for traders. For investor, you only lose when you stop buying.
Well thats right if you dont have enough knowledge you will lose no matter what tradig is like a battle field where you need to keep fighting just to survive your knowledge will be your tools in order to play and win against everyone keep learning and the result will be in your favor.

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you lose if you don't know how to hold your bitcoins or wealth or if you do unnecessary moves like investing to some sites that you didn't know that is a scam sites or trading without any knowledge about trading systems and lastly if you play gambling games and became too greedy we all know that sometimes we humans are greedy sometimes we win and we want more and that's the time you're going to lose.
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...you do not follow your strategy. And you must have a strategy.
In addition to that things, without the strategies you cannot have a chance to get a profit. You should also knowledgeable about it too in implementing the actual trade in the market.
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you only lose if you sell your crypto assets for need of cash. Try always balance yourself with your actual salary and keep more coin.
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you only lose if you sell your crypto assets for need of cash. Try always balance yourself with your actual salary and keep more coin.
If they need the cash or did you this then it is not been there today sell their Bitcoins all other crypto assets now. Because the need is the first thing to be completed as we earn money to fulfill our near and if we did not fulfill our need with our bitcoin then why we are running Bitcoin. We have to hold our Bitcoins for a long time but along with that we also have to think about our needs of our life.
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Yes i am aggreed with you.hodl is the best way to get profit.buy when it goes down and hodl.

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You Sell.  Wink



The best time for to do now. More HODL and more lose. I sold them over $1100. How lucky me.

If the other bad news will be coming.
The HODL will get the another lost. For those people trade bitcoin right now.



I think you are not that lucky because the price is now more than $2700. Holding is the best thing you would do after buying to make a big profit. Price is expected to cross $5000 this year and i don't think so no one will disagree with "more HODL more profit".
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With my experience i surely agree with you no matter how low the price drops it's always better to keep patience and wait for the price to increase. The best advice is if the price fall create a sell order for maybe 10% profit max and forget it.
This can be a way which some of you may not agree but no matter where you trade always ignore yobit
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IF you follow the sheep and get eaten up by fudsters. I have always said it that technical, fundamental analysis is good but the most important thing is the mental analysis of traders.
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If you never try. Not only if you sell btc but general in real life too. You never know what will happen if... Try to do something new but be careful. That's all, and that's my motto, as well Wink

You only lose if you stop trying and believing.  We all know that not all people believes in bitcoin. Some people also think that bitcoin is a scam.  But I believe that it is not wrong to try. Its better to try and failed than  not to try at all. But what if you don't try and those who tried benefitted from it, surely you will regret. So, you only lose if you stop trying and believing. 

if you don't calculate the risk. nothing is certain specially in trading. it is good to try but there always has to have a lot of thinking before doing it. calculate the pro's and cons. think not just twice but many times whether it is worth trying.
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You never know if you don't try..Sell only if you think you get profit. don't panic losing is natural.I should learn from my mistake..
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Yes i am aggreed with you.hodl is the best way to get profit.buy when it goes down and hodl.

 Yes you are right hold is the best way to get high profit, if the price of bitcoin goes to down you have to buy bitcoin and hold for long time because in coming after one or two years the price of bitcoin  will goes to 4000$ or 4500$ so if the price of bitcoin will 4500$, you sell your bitcoin  because your money will goes that time very increased.
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I have to question holding too long.

Let's say you buy 100BTC some time ago when it was about $10 each.

Suddenly it's $50 each, wow, profit!
And then it goes up to $500, even more profit!
But wait, it's at $2500, prooooooooooooofiiiiiiiiiiiiiit!
Then it goes up to $3500, and $5000, and then $50.000....

Sure, now with BTC being $2500+, I bet a lot of people who sold it at $50 are bashing their heads against the wall (most likely did long ago), but what's the point of just holding it? Watching your cryptocurrency grow? And grow? And maybe eventually crash?
You don't see any of that money until you actually cash it in. IMO, make profit and move on. There are other coins that might yield good profit. And once a coin that is dealing with AI is released, I'm going to buy a shitload of it and keep it for about 10 years.

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I think we only lose if we do not have any knowledge about trading and we buy everything based on our emotions, we have no strategy and we do not have trust in ourselves. Nowadays, a lot of people engage in trading but they do not know too much about it, they only hear their friends talk about profit from trading and they feel trading is simple, just buy low price and sell at high price. However, the truth has proved all, trading is not simple and they lose a lot of money

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I think we only lose if we do not have any knowledge about trading and we buy everything based on our emotions, we have no strategy and we do not have trust in ourselves. Nowadays, a lot of people engage in trading but they do not know too much about it, they only hear their friends talk about profit from trading and they feel trading is simple, just buy low price and sell at high price. However, the truth has proved all, trading is not simple and they lose a lot of money
Definitely you will, education is the basic tool to succeed in trading and even if you are educated you still need to improve your knowledge as the market is moving and new development are happening. Trading might be easy for the eyes of some people but in reality it is very risky because you need to put your money in order to start trading, and there is no certainty that you can win automatically.

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I lose if I will sell it now, I would rather still hold my bitcoin. Even the price may crash now I do believe it will rise again. Patience is a virtue, determination will surely brings you into success.

And not just you will lose but you will also regret it. This is going to be a forever loss for you but still while it is early don't try to give up and just keep on waiting. Everything will be fine soon when the price of bitcoin starts to land at $3k and above, you only need to believe that it will land there as the demand is now increasing.

A couple of months back, this current price we're on right now is a target for the end of this year and yet here we are. People are now starting to believe in btc and holding for a time seems the most ideal decision at the moment. You can't lose with bitcoin, just be patient

Exactly many are targeting the current price of bitcoin as everyone is expecting that it will happen next year or before this year ends. And with the correction that is happening to bitcoin now many are being aware that they shouldn't quit today as they will lose a lot of money. But this is only applicable if they understand it.



 

 

 

 

 

 


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What if you sell and then BTC prices crash? I dont understand how someone can be a permanent bull and be so enthusiastic to the point where they are financially suicidal. I believe that bitcoin is the future but I also know there is a high risk involved with any sort of cryptocurrency investment.
the first point is that if everyone will continue to sell then the demand will reduce and supply will increase so the price will decrease.
The other point is that it is true that bitcoin has a future and it is also true with it that in crypto currencies if you will think to invest in bitcoin then you are not at risk but the profit will come to you.
yes no doubt about that investment in bitcoin in present position is too much save and profitable investment. because the price of bitcoin is still expected to increase. and still people trend is toward buying and not selling, still people are confident to invest in bitcoin and therefore the price of bitcoin is still increasing because of the increasing demand of bitcoin, and hope that the increasing demand of bitcoin will continue for a long time.
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What if you sell and then BTC prices crash? I dont understand how someone can be a permanent bull and be so enthusiastic to the point where they are financially suicidal. I believe that bitcoin is the future but I also know there is a high risk involved with any sort of cryptocurrency investment.
the first point is that if everyone will continue to sell then the demand will reduce and supply will increase so the price will decrease.
The other point is that it is true that bitcoin has a future and it is also true with it that in crypto currencies if you will think to invest in bitcoin then you are not at risk but the profit will come to you.
yes no doubt about that investment in bitcoin in present position is too much save and profitable investment. because the price of bitcoin is still expected to increase. and still people trend is toward buying and not selling, still people are confident to invest in bitcoin and therefore the price of bitcoin is still increasing because of the increasing demand of bitcoin, and hope that the increasing demand of bitcoin will continue for a long time.
Yes you are right that invest your money in bitcoin is very safe and much more profitable because in coming days the price will going to increase in case of many investors are increased so that this time is very better to hold your bitcoin, do not spend in useless things and do not sell with quickly because i think the price of bitcoin will goes to 3500$ at the end of this year , and you are also right  this point that the demand  is increased day by day in such case bitcoin goes to high.
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What if you sell and then BTC prices crash? I dont understand how someone can be a permanent bull and be so enthusiastic to the point where they are financially suicidal. I believe that bitcoin is the future but I also know there is a high risk involved with any sort of cryptocurrency investment.
the first point is that if everyone will continue to sell then the demand will reduce and supply will increase so the price will decrease.
The other point is that it is true that bitcoin has a future and it is also true with it that in crypto currencies if you will think to invest in bitcoin then you are not at risk but the profit will come to you.
yes no doubt about that investment in bitcoin in present position is too much save and profitable investment. because the price of bitcoin is still expected to increase. and still people trend is toward buying and not selling, still people are confident to invest in bitcoin and therefore the price of bitcoin is still increasing because of the increasing demand of bitcoin, and hope that the increasing demand of bitcoin will continue for a long time.

yes you are right investment in bitcoin at this time and then holding until the price increase is better than selling at this price because now the price of bitcoin is gradually increasing and also people are investing more and more in bitcoin which increasing the price of bitcoin and also due to greater demand of bitcoin now a days will surely increase the bitcoin price, so hold your bitcoin and do not sell it.

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Yes i am aggreed with you.hodl is the best way to get profit.buy when it goes down and hodl.

 Yes you are right hold is the best way to get high profit, if the price of bitcoin goes to down you have to buy bitcoin and hold for long time because in coming after one or two years the price of bitcoin  will goes to 4000$ or 4500$ so if the price of bitcoin will 4500$, you sell your bitcoin  because your money will goes that time very increased.
But it really requires a patience in holding that bitcoin knowing that the price is getting higher and higher. If you can control your self holding it and not getting of some of it . Though if you can hold it as long as you can it is really sure profit



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Yes i am aggreed with you.hodl is the best way to get profit.buy when it goes down and hodl.

 Yes you are right hold is the best way to get high profit, if the price of bitcoin goes to down you have to buy bitcoin and hold for long time because in coming after one or two years the price of bitcoin  will goes to 4000$ or 4500$ so if the price of bitcoin will 4500$, you sell your bitcoin  because your money will goes that time very increased.
But it really requires a patience in holding that bitcoin knowing that the price is getting higher and higher. If you can control your self holding it and not getting of some of it . Though if you can hold it as long as you can it is really sure profit
Of course otherwise you will not get your goal, it is not only saying that we have to hold when we see the price is pumping, it's important
to be ready on how you will treat your investment when the price dump, if you are for long term you have to disregard any dump because
most likely price will be up again.

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Yes i am aggreed with you.hodl is the best way to get profit.buy when it goes down and hodl.

 Yes you are right hold is the best way to get high profit, if the price of bitcoin goes to down you have to buy bitcoin and hold for long time because in coming after one or two years the price of bitcoin  will goes to 4000$ or 4500$ so if the price of bitcoin will 4500$, you sell your bitcoin  because your money will goes that time very increased.
But it really requires a patience in holding that bitcoin knowing that the price is getting higher and higher. If you can control your self holding it and not getting of some of it . Though if you can hold it as long as you can it is really sure profit
Of course otherwise you will not get your goal, it is not only saying that we have to hold when we see the price is pumping, it's important
to be ready on how you will treat your investment when the price dump, if you are for long term you have to disregard any dump because
most likely price will be up again.

The challenge is to have patience to hold for that long. Let's face it, it's really easy to say that we have to hold for 2 to 3 years but doong the actual thing is the moat important thing to do espexially if btc prices are a bit high. It's quite hard to control someone's self from spending if you already have a lot of btcs.

 
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You Sell.  Wink


You only lost if you cant use your patience to fight for yor purpose.Once I go gamble I should be positive always that Im gonna win the game.I will be a loser if I give up already.Ther should be patience in me waiting for rhe last minute to win the battle.If I lost hope everything is lose to me.
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Yes i am aggreed with you.hodl is the best way to get profit.buy when it goes down and hodl.

 Yes you are right hold is the best way to get high profit, if the price of bitcoin goes to down you have to buy bitcoin and hold for long time because in coming after one or two years the price of bitcoin  will goes to 4000$ or 4500$ so if the price of bitcoin will 4500$, you sell your bitcoin  because your money will goes that time very increased.
But it really requires a patience in holding that bitcoin knowing that the price is getting higher and higher. If you can control your self holding it and not getting of some of it . Though if you can hold it as long as you can it is really sure profit
Of course otherwise you will not get your goal, it is not only saying that we have to hold when we see the price is pumping, it's important
to be ready on how you will treat your investment when the price dump, if you are for long term you have to disregard any dump because
most likely price will be up again.

The challenge is to have patience to hold for that long. Let's face it, it's really easy to say that we have to hold for 2 to 3 years but doong the actual thing is the moat important thing to do espexially if btc prices are a bit high. It's quite hard to control someone's self from spending if you already have a lot of btcs.

Yes its very challenging to hold bitcoin because you see that the price is going strong everyday. And I saw that bitcoin investment should be for long term. And now I understand why senior members are telling that. But you need to have will power to really hold it like years because if you did, then you will have a windfall coming onto you.

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June 19, 2017, 03:51:13 PM
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I am holding the coins since it was $450, but that doesn't mean I am not selling them.
I sell the only part that I need in extra to add some more fun to my life, the other part that I have been saving for future, is the part that I am not going to sell until I see the best price for it.

Bitcoin price is raise every day. If we keep lot coin means we can use for even Emergency. We have to periodically check the bitcoin value to sell it wisely.
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I don't agree with your point that you only lose when you sell. There are people who bought bitcoin when the market value was around $800 to $1,100 , and if they should sell at the current market price of  $2,540 I don't think they have lost, but rather, they have made a lot of profit. You will only lose when you sell below the market value you purchase them.
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I don't agree with your point that you only lose when you sell. There are people who bought bitcoin when the market value was around $800 to $1,100 , and if they should sell at the current market price of  $2,540 I don't think they have lost, but rather, they have made a lot of profit. You will only lose when you sell below the market value you purchase them.
part of general rule inside trading alts is never to sell when you are at loss allowing yourself to hold and keep reading accordingly you will only sell when there would be an incoming issue that will trigger the downfall. you will only lose if your timing of selling is a way behind from its current value.
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You only lose if you give up. try to wait patience is the most powrfull enemy don't be greed. do not sell your coins in low price. wait until you see the profit. remember bitcoins started with 0.10 cents in 2009  then now? you will a millionaire so hold and hold

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You only lose if you give up. try to wait patience is the most powrfull enemy don't be greed. do not sell your coins in low price. wait until you see the profit. remember bitcoins started with 0.10 cents in 2009  then now? you will a millionaire so hold and hold

I think it's opposite, greediness is the most powerful enemy that you will be fighting to. And you can even lose more if you will be greedy.

As I've experienced, when the price did went up to it's new ATH for the past weeks, I didn't managed to believe with my instinct and hoping for more increase.

But for just a few hours the price went back and with that decision of being greedy, I lost some potential profit.

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You only lose if... you invest in worthless coins that clearly have no future.
You only lose if... you invest all of your money in one coin and sell as soon as the price decreases.
You only lose if... you don't research the coin you're thinking about investing in, before you buy it.

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You will only loose if you become negligent to your original plan into trading, or become impatience of waiting
while you hold  your coin in a long term.
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I think we only lose if we do not have any knowledge about trading and we buy everything based on our emotions, we have no strategy and we do not have trust in ourselves. Nowadays, a lot of people engage in trading but they do not know too much about it, they only hear their friends talk about profit from trading and they feel trading is simple, just buy low price and sell at high price. However, the truth has proved all, trading is not simple and they lose a lot of money
You are right as knowledge and making strategy is really important thing in bitcoin trading if any person will not aware from that much then I do not think that he will be able to earn money in trade. He will do trade but it will be like to gamble with his money in trade. For doing profitable trade experience and skills is much important.
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We only lose if we do panic selling instead of making some cash maybe you will lose half of your investment if you don't hold. You need to be patient when making trade or else something bad will happen.

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You only lose if... you invest in worthless coins that clearly have no future.
You only lose if... you invest all of your money in one coin and sell as soon as the price decreases.
You only lose if... you don't research the coin you're thinking about investing in, before you buy it.

But it's also possible to lose when you invest in a coin that clearly has a future, hold the coin as long as you can even with the price decrease, and research a lot about the coin before buying it. Once the developer has ran away and there are no more updates, the coin will die in just a matter of hours. It will become a race. The last one to sell will be a bagholder of a shit coin.

Some coins have excellent plans all along but never get to do it because they never actually planned to do so. Beware of devs that only want to make a quick buck from investors.

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June 20, 2017, 04:35:27 PM
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You only lose if you invest in shitcoins for too long, or you invest in a good coin and sell before it goes to the moon and you just did not had the patience. You also lose if you don't buy when the time is right but you were too afraid.
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June 20, 2017, 06:36:21 PM
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Some coins have excellent plans all along but never get to do it because they never actually planned to do so. Beware of devs that only want to make a quick buck from investors.
Yes, after bitcoin achieved big value in relatively short term, there are plenty of altcoins are coming up everyday. If we choose them randomly, we may lose at the end definitely. We must be careful for choosing the right coins for both trading as well for investing. Honestly I never recommend altcoins for investments, they are only good for short term trading.
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June 20, 2017, 09:24:22 PM
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You only lose if you invest in shitcoins for too long, or you invest in a good coin and sell before it goes to the moon and you just did not had the patience. You also lose if you don't buy when the time is right but you were too afraid.

In trading a trader is also required to have good emotional control. When they can control themselves then the benefits can be achieved. Emotional control can make a person take the right decisions. Such as patience, patience can make a person have time to think and get the best results.
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June 21, 2017, 12:08:39 AM
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See I think this is the sort of mindset that I can get behind but only partially, I do think at some point you should be able to sell in order to minimize losses. But if you're one of those people that are just going to keep selling when you're down a little bit, then you're just going to be a shitty trader who isn't going to make any money from this in the least, you should know when to hold your cards and know when to fold them as well to be able to maximize profits and minimize losses.

Everyone is going to have trades that they should have and shouldn't of made, you can't live in the past when it comes to stuff like that though cause it's just going to lead to anger and desperation regarding the losses.
You only lose if you give up. try to wait patience is the most powrfull enemy don't be greed. do not sell your coins in low price. wait until you see the profit. remember bitcoins started with 0.10 cents in 2009  then now? you will a millionaire so hold and hold

What type of madman would've thought to buy BTC at .10 when they didn't even know what it is and then HOLD IT TILL NOW? I always think about like OH what if I did that, but the possibility of me doing that is so low I can't even delve on the past with stuff like that.




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June 21, 2017, 12:27:08 AM
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We only lose if we do panic selling instead of making some cash maybe you will lose half of your investment if you don't hold. You need to be patient when making trade or else something bad will happen.
Yes, bitcoin is not just for selling. Holding bitcoin is also profitable and I think it is much safer than taking risk in gambling and trading. Also, you will find out that holding and saving bitcoin in your wallet will be useful when an emergency happens or when you find yourself needing money and you do not have cash.

Holding bitcoin is also much better than using it in gambling hoping that you will quickly earn money. Many have mistaken using bitcoin for betting then lose huge amount in the end instead of doubling or earning through playing gambling.

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June 21, 2017, 01:56:57 AM
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If you never try. Not only if you sell btc but general in real life too. You never know what will happen if... Try to do something new but be careful. That's all, and that's my motto, as well Wink
Technically that is the main point. If you will not try you won't achieved anything. Because we all know for now that bitcoin has a wide future and development so if you are not willing to try or to educate yourself to get into bitcoin you can probably regret on not trying and come up on losing the opportunity that bitcoin can brought your investment. So its better to start early and educate people to get into bitcoin for them to be successful and to earn more.
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November 04, 2017, 10:22:10 PM
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You Sell.  Wink


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If you never try. Not only if you sell btc but general in real life too. You never know what will happen if... Try to do something new but be careful. That's all, and that's my motto, as well Wink
Technically that is the main point. If you will not try you won't achieved anything. Because we all know for now that bitcoin has a wide future and development so if you are not willing to try or to educate yourself to get into bitcoin you can probably regret on not trying and come up on losing the opportunity that bitcoin can brought your investment. So its better to start early and educate people to get into bitcoin for them to be successful and to earn more.

Well we don't have to be afraid to lose in the first place. Traders lose money, investors lose money, businessmen lose money. You only really lose if you let it take the better of you. You can't lose if you take each loss possitively and learn from it

 
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You only lose if you hold for too long on to a coin like chaincoin. Or logically if you sell at loss Tongue

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November 07, 2017, 09:17:30 PM
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You only lose if you dont take the opportunity to sustain bitcoin. Now we are making history, the financial market is going to be changed, it is as important as it was printing, for the first time, paper money.
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November 07, 2017, 10:42:16 PM
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You only lose if you invest in shitcoins for too long, or you invest in a good coin and sell before it goes to the moon and you just did not had the patience. You also lose if you don't buy when the time is right but you were too afraid.


Exactly, buying and selling in a wrong time is the some reasons why we are in losing point. Even an experienced trader can suffer through this if we dont have discipline and let our emotion to control.


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You only lose if you invest in shitcoins for too long, or you invest in a good coin and sell before it goes to the moon and you just did not had the patience. You also lose if you don't buy when the time is right but you were too afraid.


Exactly, buying and selling in a wrong time is the some reasons why we are in losing point. Even an experienced trader can suffer through this if we dont have discipline and let our emotion to control.



BTC will surge to 8k levels early next week before B2X split. We still have time for not to lose but dont put all your money in one go!
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November 07, 2017, 11:23:51 PM
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You only lose if you dont take the opportunity to sustain bitcoin. Now we are making history, the financial market is going to be changed, it is as important as it was printing, for the first time, paper money.
Even if you have the opportunity to invest and you have invested in bitcoin you will still lose if you don't sell bitcoin for a profit.
Remember that the price is volatile and it may fluctuate most of the time that sometimes might temp us to sell especially when the price is continuously dumping, we have to believe and be strong if we are trusting bitcoin as our long term investment, that way we will not lose.

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November 07, 2017, 11:41:40 PM
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If you never try. Not only if you sell btc but general in real life too. You never know what will happen if... Try to do something new but be careful. That's all, and that's my motto, as well Wink


Yah... Better try the new thing's. Not only to focus in one, Just try..but you need to be careful of the result. Remember try is the chance to be a better one.
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Try the other opportunities that you have. If there's one thing that gave you a chance you don't need to think twice before it do. Because you only lose if you can't accept that one.
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