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September 29, 2018, 03:07:52 PM
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I looked at the use of online wallet. It needs to fill in the private key information and password. Is it so safe?

Never trust on 3rd party wallet especially in that case when you have to put your password and private key. This is really dangerous it could bring dangerous results in future. Have patience soon we will get trusted wallet which will provide more security.
tezbox.com - a wallet developed by an well known and respected Tezos developer Stephen Andrews. The wallet has been through an audit funded by Tezos Foundation. Its safety
Is the Tezbox wallet safe and usable for getting XTZ from the fundraiser? I still haven't claimed my Tezzies, maybe it's a good time to do it right now.
Yes it is. Galleon is safety too. This wallets has been through an audit funded by Tezos Foundation.

I don't feel too safe either. Officials haven't had a valid wallet or a Foundation-certified wallet. The worry now is whether the coin will disappear if it's not activated and baked.

Nothing should disappear because the allocations are in the Tezos genesis block.

https://tezos.foundation/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/5223213-genesis.txt

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September 30, 2018, 07:07:37 AM
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September 30, 2018, 10:24:46 AM
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Tezos grantee spotlight which covers Obsidian Systems that is one of the very interesting video. Though it was released few days ago but I watched it little time ago and helped me to have better understanding of different aspects of the project. That article on language protocols also worth all your time to read and enhance your knowledge abut the space your are active.
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September 30, 2018, 12:21:49 PM
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I looked at the use of online wallet. It needs to fill in the private key information and password. Is it so safe?

Never trust on 3rd party wallet especially in that case when you have to put your password and private key. This is really dangerous it could bring dangerous results in future. Have patience soon we will get trusted wallet which will provide more security.
tezbox.com - a wallet developed by an well known and respected Tezos developer Stephen Andrews. The wallet has been through an audit funded by Tezos Foundation. Its safety
Is the Tezbox wallet safe and usable for getting XTZ from the fundraiser? I still haven't claimed my Tezzies, maybe it's a good time to do it right now.
Yes it is. Galleon is safety too. This wallets has been through an audit funded by Tezos Foundation.

I don't feel too safe either. Officials haven't had a valid wallet or a Foundation-certified wallet. The worry now is whether the coin will disappear if it's not activated and baked.
Ledger Nano S has Tezos in a roadmap. So I’m assuming safest wallet for Tezos will be available real soon.
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September 30, 2018, 02:25:06 PM
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I looked at the use of online wallet. It needs to fill in the private key information and password. Is it so safe?

Never trust on 3rd party wallet especially in that case when you have to put your password and private key. This is really dangerous it could bring dangerous results in future. Have patience soon we will get trusted wallet which will provide more security.
tezbox.com - a wallet developed by an well known and respected Tezos developer Stephen Andrews. The wallet has been through an audit funded by Tezos Foundation. Its safety
Is the Tezbox wallet safe and usable for getting XTZ from the fundraiser? I still haven't claimed my Tezzies, maybe it's a good time to do it right now.
Yes it is. Galleon is safety too. This wallets has been through an audit funded by Tezos Foundation.

I don't feel too safe either. Officials haven't had a valid wallet or a Foundation-certified wallet. The worry now is whether the coin will disappear if it's not activated and baked.
Ledger Nano S has Tezos in a roadmap. So I’m assuming safest wallet for Tezos will be available real soon.

Yes, maybe I should wait too long to wait until the official releases a more secure wallet.
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September 30, 2018, 08:18:21 PM
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I looked at the use of online wallet. It needs to fill in the private key information and password. Is it so safe?

Never trust on 3rd party wallet especially in that case when you have to put your password and private key. This is really dangerous it could bring dangerous results in future. Have patience soon we will get trusted wallet which will provide more security.
tezbox.com - a wallet developed by an well known and respected Tezos developer Stephen Andrews. The wallet has been through an audit funded by Tezos Foundation. Its safety
Is the Tezbox wallet safe and usable for getting XTZ from the fundraiser? I still haven't claimed my Tezzies, maybe it's a good time to do it right now.
Yes it is. Galleon is safety too. This wallets has been through an audit funded by Tezos Foundation.

I don't feel too safe either. Officials haven't had a valid wallet or a Foundation-certified wallet. The worry now is whether the coin will disappear if it's not activated and baked.
Ledger Nano S has Tezos in a roadmap. So I’m assuming safest wallet for Tezos will be available real soon.

Yes, maybe I should wait too long to wait until the official releases a more secure wallet.
Thank you all. Anyway, am I safe if I haven't claimed by fundraiser-XTZ yet, waiting for a stable wallet and procedure? Because the existing procedure is kinda unclear right now.
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October 02, 2018, 03:59:13 AM
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I looked at the use of online wallet. It needs to fill in the private key information and password. Is it so safe?

Never trust on 3rd party wallet especially in that case when you have to put your password and private key. This is really dangerous it could bring dangerous results in future. Have patience soon we will get trusted wallet which will provide more security.
tezbox.com - a wallet developed by an well known and respected Tezos developer Stephen Andrews. The wallet has been through an audit funded by Tezos Foundation. Its safety
If it is safe, it should be featured on Tezos website and should be officially recommended. I didn't see any of that yet.
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October 02, 2018, 05:19:02 AM
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I looked at the use of online wallet. It needs to fill in the private key information and password. Is it so safe?

Never trust on 3rd party wallet especially in that case when you have to put your password and private key. This is really dangerous it could bring dangerous results in future. Have patience soon we will get trusted wallet which will provide more security.
tezbox.com - a wallet developed by an well known and respected Tezos developer Stephen Andrews. The wallet has been through an audit funded by Tezos Foundation. Its safety
If it is safe, it should be featured on Tezos website and should be officially recommended. I didn't see any of that yet.

There's also an Android wallet from the Tezos core development team (Arthur & Company). Make sure you don't have a virus on your phone.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tezcore.cortez

For all my Tezos, the Linux cli wallet compiled from gitlab is the only wallet I trust. It's not that hard, you can even run a VM guest Ubuntu OS (under vmware) dedicated for this and follow the guides available online.
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October 02, 2018, 07:38:07 AM
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hey Tezos gang.

I´m delegating for a while with TezosTeam... Until now didn t encounter any trouble with their service. Actually they pay per cycle and they have almost a 24/7 availability support on their TG.

But recently (a week ago) they decide to increase their fees, from 10% to 14%. Once again, I have to say, they have an awesome service, but an (+-40%) increase is always painful.

So, which are the most trustable and professional Bakers of the moment?

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October 02, 2018, 07:51:50 AM
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Tezos News: Chorus Project. Solutions For Transportation Using Tezos Network -

https://tokentops.com/news/solutions-for-transportation-utilizing-tezos-network-tezos-news-chorus-project-exclusive-interview-october/


Is Skynet going to take over?!

https://bitcoinschannel.com/skynet-controversy-similarly-named-tezos-dapp-promises-enhanced-peer-to-peer-lending/




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October 02, 2018, 09:06:54 AM
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hey Tezos gang.

I´m delegating for a while with TezosTeam... Until now didn t encounter any trouble with their service. Actually they pay per cycle and they have almost a 24/7 availability support on their TG.

But recently (a week ago) they decide to increase their fees, from 10% to 14%. Once again, I have to say, they have an awesome service, but an (+-40%) increase is always painful.

So, which are the most trustable and professional Bakers of the moment?

Thanks for the information, I was not aware that they increased their fee to 14%. I can confirm that their service works well.
But if we vote for another baker we will lose ~7 Cycles, right?
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October 02, 2018, 07:10:24 PM
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hey Tezos gang.

I´m delegating for a while with TezosTeam... Until now didn t encounter any trouble with their service. Actually they pay per cycle and they have almost a 24/7 availability support on their TG.

But recently (a week ago) they decide to increase their fees, from 10% to 14%. Once again, I have to say, they have an awesome service, but an (+-40%) increase is always painful.

So, which are the most trustable and professional Bakers of the moment?

Thanks for the information, I was not aware that they increased their fee to 14%. I can confirm that their service works well.
But if we vote for another baker we will lose ~7 Cycles, right?
Right( you will lost 7 cycles...the calculation was made at the time of issuing the initial commission

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October 03, 2018, 03:16:35 PM
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Can anybody explain, how exactly the reward for baking/endorsement becames into the real balance. I've found in the docs that the time for this is 6 cycles. But when I try to culculate baker's balance manually I get a wrong amount. Also I want to know is there any kind of operation to detect when the funds became from freeze to real?
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October 03, 2018, 04:03:32 PM
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Can anybody explain, how exactly the reward for baking/endorsement becames into the real balance. I've found in the docs that the time for this is 6 cycles. But when I try to culculate baker's balance manually I get a wrong amount. Also I want to know is there any kind of operation to detect when the funds became from freeze to real?
After 5 cycles after baking, the frozen charges are paid. Payments are made using special transactions, they can be seen, if we consider the blocks through api.

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October 03, 2018, 05:36:46 PM
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Can anybody explain, how exactly the reward for baking/endorsement becames into the real balance. I've found in the docs that the time for this is 6 cycles. But when I try to culculate baker's balance manually I get a wrong amount. Also I want to know is there any kind of operation to detect when the funds became from freeze to real?
After 5 cycles after baking, the frozen charges are paid. Payments are made using special transactions, they can be seen, if we consider the blocks through api.

You can try https://tzscan.io . -- look up the account, then goto Rewards.    From there you will see Pending (future estimate),  Rewards Pending (what you earned but has not been delivered yet), and Rewards Delivered.

Total rewards = Block Rewards + Endorsement Rewards (if the baker funds and endorsed funds are all yours)



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October 04, 2018, 10:28:59 AM
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Can anybody explain, how exactly the reward for baking/endorsement becames into the real balance. I've found in the docs that the time for this is 6 cycles. But when I try to culculate baker's balance manually I get a wrong amount. Also I want to know is there any kind of operation to detect when the funds became from freeze to real?
After 5 cycles after baking, the frozen charges are paid. Payments are made using special transactions, they can be seen, if we consider the blocks through api.

But what is the name of the kind of this special secret transaction?
Can anybody send a link to this process?
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October 04, 2018, 11:17:22 AM
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yes, but price stands on one point and even bitfinex and mainnet didn't manage to lift it on the new upper level

I was also expecting more price movement and attention from new investors with those two news.

The price of Tezos coins has also fallen sharply, but TEZOS holders can rest assured that tezos will hit new highs as long as the next bull market hits.
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October 04, 2018, 11:25:52 AM
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yes, but price stands on one point and even bitfinex and mainnet didn't manage to lift it on the new upper level

I was also expecting more price movement and attention from new investors with those two news.

The price of Tezos coins has also fallen sharply, but TEZOS holders can rest assured that tezos will hit new highs as long as the next bull market hits.

We have to keep patience until all markets will enter into bull phase. After successful launch of Mainnet this project got more power I also believe it will perform more better than before. No doubt next rise will push to reach new ATH.
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October 04, 2018, 02:31:39 PM
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can we retrieve the coins already?

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October 04, 2018, 04:41:03 PM
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yes, but price stands on one point and even bitfinex and mainnet didn't manage to lift it on the new upper level

I was also expecting more price movement and attention from new investors with those two news.

The price of Tezos coins has also fallen sharply, but TEZOS holders can rest assured that tezos will hit new highs as long as the next bull market hits.

We have to keep patience until all markets will enter into bull phase. After successful launch of Mainnet this project got more power I also believe it will perform more better than before. No doubt next rise will push to reach new ATH.

What do you consider the current ATH?   $2, $4, $5, $10?    I personally think it is around $2.40

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