Tezos discussion

[chesthing]

When you compare a valuation of $3.8b to the shit in the top 20 it's not high at all.

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[popcorn1]

Bitcoin is evolving into a store of value and so increasingly resembles digital gold.

WHY digital gold?    Just think for 1 minute < times up i will tell you why ..
Because we humans say it is            nothing else and nothing more ..

The same why the dutch used tulips   because they as humans decided to use tulips as cash..

So what is money?..

Just think if we destroy the earth to make a computer game  as in the console and the game and then we just play it what have we gained ?
We have gained FUN..   We made things out of plastic and metals to have fun    BUT to have this fun we had to use monies to buy the plastic and metal
that got turned into a games console then we played it to have fun..

So your mind thinks "MONEY" is what got me this console    but really it wasn't it the was work that got you that console ..
People had to work and burn things to create that console then you used money to buy it..

Now Bitcoin is the new digital gold WHY?  yes because we humans said so  plain and simple    no other reason but us humans saying we will except
digital numbers on a screen  ..We cannot touch them but we say as humans they are digital gold   something we cannot touch or smell..

So what is MONEY?..Yes what ever we humans say it is..

So why can't we have a UNIVERSAL INCOME?

Create 2  digital pictures 1 half of the world sells their picture to the other half   thus giving us 10k in digital cash ..

No digging the ground no pollution   just 2 digital pictures   split the planet in half   1 half sells the picture to the other half for 10k  then we both get 10k
each  for our digital picture then destroy the pictures   and create 2 more every year   for all the planets UNIVERSAL INCOME..


Now you say it cannot be done  WHY..

Because if we as humans can say DIGITAL GOLD  and also pay 500 million for a painting  plus use tulips for monies plus BITCOIN being 8k a pop

WHY as humans can't we say we both created a digital picture and both sold it for 10k each ..?

Just think we say one thing is money   but the other is not why   Because we as humans say so   no other reason ..

Why can 1 person have billions in cash   BUT a 10K a year universal income comes to 1 million over a hundred years per person ..
1 person off a universal income will gain 1 million over 1 hundred years then be dead ..

But funny how kings queens lords politicians can pay themselves 100k a year ..

Do you see how we trick our own brains to think we have to start from nothing   then build our cash up   BUT it's not true many many people already
get universal incomes   like kings queens and the likes ..

Just sit and think what " MONEY" really is .. We say bitcoin is the new digital gold   even though we cannot touch or smell it   so if your mind excepts
digital gold as in Bitcoin   Then why can't your mind convince yourself that creating 2 digital pictures that don't pollute the earth plus the fact no plastic
plus the fact like your digital gold as in bitcoin is not mined    and when computer mined it uses loads of ENERGY meaning polluting the earth ..

So why can your mind think that Digital gold is good but a UNIVERSAL INCOME is bad  ..

Remember 1 person can have billions    but a 10k universal income over 1 year will cost 1 million over 100 years ..
BUT it doesn't cost  it's the work that cost  so with the extra universal income  humans lives will be way better off..

Kate sills  i have smashed many of your post on twitter   but you post very very good reads  THANKS..

UNIVERSAL INCOME   for the world then we can buy cryptocurrency  drugs  electric what ever we desire to spend our free UNIVERSAL INCOME

Everyone when reaches 21 years old gets a universal income ..We create 2 digital pictures then sell to each other for 10k pounds dollars..

WHY  if digital gold you cannot touch or smell  is ok  so is a UNIVERSAL INCOME ..

Why do you buy a birthday card   what do you get out of it?  Yes but you need to pay   will you pay with DIGITAL GOLD ?  why it's not real we as humans made it up ..
But you will except digital gold but not a UNIVERSAL INCOME?

Think what money is     It's nothing but we convinced ourselves it's worth something  like a 100 million dollar painting  

A bit of colour paint on canvas is worth 100s of millions WHY  because we humans said so  ..

So why can't we have a universal income?..It only takes us humans to say so..

[popcorn1]

I watched this i can't remember when but  as she ever thought of adding this to the spinning thing that goes around her head.. Go to 8 minutes in to see the disc spin around her head .. i would watch it all great watch.
 
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Flexible Screen Developed by China Debuts at World Internet ...
Video for flexible screen▶ 1:02
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcsCrHGDSAk
4 Dec 2017 - Uploaded by CCTV+
The fourth World Internet Conference (WIC) has lived up to its expectation by a worldwide breakthrough with a ...
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Put this around the disc that spins around SimoneGiertz head then play a space simulation game Or just see what effect you get?..
Or build it were we stand in the disc and play as it spins ?

But see you never created useless things ..Give it ago  could be a great way to play games..

Make a cylinder screen around the spinning thing that SimoneGiertz has around her head then play computer games ..

Light flexible screen 

[popcorn1]

Governance for every blockchain ..

Make a YES or NO vote ..

Make 2 wallet addresses like when you send someone bitcoin ..

1st  bitcoin address with a YES vote
2nd bitcoin address with a NO vote

Make sections with countries in boxes then send bitcoin to what ever you think ..

Example   should we make this change or what ever to our blockchain      YES or NO vote

So what ever you think the right thing to vote on you would send a small amount of bitcoin to yes address
or the no address ..

Then you got voting on your tokens ..

A random picker picks the winners of the vote to be asked again    Yes or no ..

But everyone can now vote  ..You can play with the idea but just make a yes and no address and then the masses can send to the  YES  or NO vote  ..

Now i sent Arthur this i thinks he not like it ..

BUT   ETH DID   Because someone is building a YES or NO voting system for ETH ..

Right after i sent ARTHUR it..

But i said if we send a bit of tezos we can vote to see who wins the TEZOS..
Like a voting winner lottery ..

The winner takes it all..Plus decided if the tezos upgrade was ok to do..

BUT everyone now got GOVERNANCE for your token..

[europesss]

Tezos Prepares Beta Launch

http://www.the-blockchain.com/2018/06/01/tezos-prepares-for-betanet-launch/?utm_campaign=BCN%20Twitter&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitter

[popcorn1]

On chain governance  ..

Just think Tezos on chain governance is the same as the USA electoral college  no different ..

Just think even if you win the vote doesn't mean you get to decide ..

Like when MR TRUMP won he never won the votes the electoral college decided the vote
just the same as TEZOS will do ..

So maybe one day you be like HILARY CLINTON ..

Think you won but haven't ..

So really it's like the EUROPEAN UNION   they can make you vote again and again until they like what they see NOT YOU..

So is TEZOS really on chain governance ?

I won the vote YIPEEE  so i decide  HMMM well you sort of decide   if we don't like your vote then NO you haven't won the vote ..Arr you see that's so the LITTLE PEOPLE think they got a vote..

electoral college is TEZOS   
European union is TEZOS ..

I will prove my point below..

How Hillary Clinton Won the Popular Vote But Lost the Election ...
https://www.billboard.com/.../electoral-college-hillary-clinton-donald-trump-2016-pre...
9 Nov 2016 - Donald Trump defeated Hillary Clinton last night (Nov. to become the 45th President of the United States. Here's a basic explainer of the .


Brendan O'Neill: Asking the Irish to vote again on the Lisbon treaty is ...
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2008/dec/13/eu-ireland-lisbon-treaty
13 Dec 2008 - Brendan O'Neill: Asking the Irish to vote again on the Lisbon treaty is ... think of Ireland as European, and have travelled, worked and made ...

EU begins secret drive to force Ireland to vote again on rejected ...
www.dailymail.co.uk/.../EU-begins-secret-drive-force-Ireland-vote-rejected-Lisbon-T...
11 Sep 2008 - Neil O'Brien, of Eurosceptic think-tank Open Europe, said: 'The EU simply won't take no for answer. They will make Ireland vote again and .


SO IS TEZOS    ABOVE   YES IT IS    ASK KATHLEEN  ..

Yes she said even if you win the delegation vote doesn't mean the upgrade gets put in because
WE meaning arthur and TF decide    ..

Just like the EU  making Ireland vote again
Just like the electoral-college ..

I like MR TRUMP  but do you ..

So will TEZOS be like the EU and electoral-college ? 

SO is TEZOS really on chain governance or a con to make the little people think they got a vote when really they haven't ?..

The proof is   MR TRUMP
The proof is IRELAND  getting made to vote again and again ..

TEZOS doesn't like the little people    So why get made to vote again?..

Then if you don't the delegation services could be bribed ..

So now sort the problems i put forward because it's a major problem ..

Do you want a  MR TRUMP ..I do     but do you?..

Mr trump as brought all the swamp life out who suck our life blood money..

The money VAMPIRES like clinton and Co..

[boopy265420]

It should be round the corner that official announcement for beta launch now. We are already in June and most probably during work days we will have that most awaited news whenever will be. Many people didn't keep their passphrases safe and are facing troubles now. One of my friends also can't find his password anymore. This is going to be seen widely in coming days.

[popcorn1]

To all blockchains   why have you got a cryptocurrency ?..

So why crypto billionaire clubs ?..
You are saying only if your a billionaire your welcome in our club..

Now right there that's a problem WHY..

Well just think if on chain governance or head of foundations can be bribed what is the major problem?..

The problem is no different than the way governments act < Billionaire crypto clubs..
The little people cannot be in that club ..

Now lets look at TEZOS on chain governance plus delegation services or delegation vote..

Lets say we vote and someone wins    then gets bribed     what can we bribe them to do ?..

Well i can say everyone with so many tokens will have all the say say 10K tezos ..
Now how many wallets left with 10k in them?

It gets less wallets to vote meaning little wallets will have no say ..

Now lets say i bribe someone to do a new protocol for TEZOS like anyone with 100k or more can do this but anyone with less cannot ..

we have new technology but only those with 100k can join our club ..

The Bitcoin Billionaire Club May be Bigger Thank You Think ...
https://cryptocoinmastery.com/bitcoin-billionaire-club-may-bigger-thank-think/
3 Jan 2018 - The Bitcoin Billionaires club has been growing quite quickly as the crypto continues its upward trend. The Winklevoss twins were the first widely .


So really are we not just swapping 1 type of currency for another   when really no change because those
that rule still rule ?..

We are creating crypto for a better world   BULLSHIT  for the monies  FACT..

If i see a Tezos Billionaire club i will hit the ROOF ..

My idea is even if you own 1 tezos you have the same power as someone who owns 1 million tezos..

What's good for the 1 million tezos person is good for the 1 tezos person ..
Like..
Good for the goose    good for the gander  ..

To have 10k tezos would of cost 5k  now 40k   so how does poor mary get a say

Kathleen would say?  fuck you tramp

[herromerro]

It should be round the corner that official announcement for beta launch now. We are already in June and most probably during work days we will have that most awaited news whenever will be. Many people didn't keep their passphrases safe and are facing troubles now. One of my friends also can't find his password anymore. This is going to be seen widely in coming days.

It seems many people won't be able to access their funds unfortunatelly. I also thought that we would just need passphrase but it seems we need password and email too.

[popcorn1]

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21 hours ago
Blockchains are not startups – A Must Read for Tezosers
medium.com/tezos/...

Tezosers <Tossers  < means wankers .

So what are you up to you tezosers

Rather have me tezzies  than be a wanker

And TEZ is short for TERRY

Hay tez what are you doing with those tezosers  Nothing just sitting here playing with me tezzies..

[virasisog]

It should be round the corner that official announcement for beta launch now. We are already in June and most probably during work days we will have that most awaited news whenever will be. Many people didn't keep their passphrases safe and are facing troubles now. One of my friends also can't find his password anymore. This is going to be seen widely in coming days.

It seems many people won't be able to access their funds unfortunatelly. I also thought that we would just need passphrase but it seems we need password and email too.

That's one of those things that we need to securely kept even it seems that a project had a very long way of providing the technology that they are working. I don't think how tezos will take action on that first its a human and own mistakes of not keeping it. Thus, it very hard to access and cannot be reset if you cant open it.

[yeyicheng888]

 the technology of TEZOS is very good. Marketing is not doing very well at the moment. I believe the project team will strengthen this effort later.

[Huy Mai]

Tezos is an impressive project, waiting for a big pump at the end of this year. I bought some on HitBTC exchange, hope this will bring a big profit by holding 

[MaoChao]

Tezos Baking Recipe by Tezos Korea
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/De0ij8hUcAAgxTc.jpg:large

[cygan]

https://tezosfoundation.ch/news/tezos-foundation-issuing-grant-cryptonomic-project-wallet/

Cryptonomic is developing a wallet that can be used to interact with the Tezos blockchain for the upcoming betanet launch.

[mt55]

What will happen for the IOU holder on HitBTC?
the IOU TZX will be automatically transformed in real TZX?

Which would mean that the exchange participated in the ICO. But what happens if it doesn't?

they will transfer it when XTZ will be listed

So it's no wrong to assume that the price of 1 TZY will be approximatively 5$ worth. it's not too bad in my opinion 

I wouldn't assume that. Because it is so limited market. And thousands of investors have been waiting for the launch almost a year. During that time market prices went up and also expectations. I'm not sure if the investors will be willing to sell around $5.

$5 would push the total value to: 763,306,929 TZY * $5 = $3.8 bn

Thing is: If the launch should go smooth and Tezos being listed on good exchanges while the overall market situation should not be too bad or even bullish, that may be possible or even find a higher price - considered that EOS for example is traded at a marketcap of about $10 bn.

But... I personally have zero clue what to expect from this project tbh.

Any data as to what the average price for investors was? Haven't been following this a lot but it seems that there would be massive instant profit if it lists at $5?

[chesthing]

What will happen for the IOU holder on HitBTC?
the IOU TZX will be automatically transformed in real TZX?

Which would mean that the exchange participated in the ICO. But what happens if it doesn't?

they will transfer it when XTZ will be listed

So it's no wrong to assume that the price of 1 TZY will be approximatively 5$ worth. it's not too bad in my opinion  

I wouldn't assume that. Because it is so limited market. And thousands of investors have been waiting for the launch almost a year. During that time market prices went up and also expectations. I'm not sure if the investors will be willing to sell around $5.

$5 would push the total value to: 763,306,929 TZY * $5 = $3.8 bn

Thing is: If the launch should go smooth and Tezos being listed on good exchanges while the overall market situation should not be too bad or even bullish, that may be possible or even find a higher price - considered that EOS for example is traded at a marketcap of about $10 bn.

But... I personally have zero clue what to expect from this project tbh.

Any data as to what the average price for investors was? Haven't been following this a lot but it seems that there would be massive instant profit if it lists at $5?

If it launched at $5 at today's btc price those selling tezos would gain about 3x in bitcoin value.

[mt55]

What will happen for the IOU holder on HitBTC?
the IOU TZX will be automatically transformed in real TZX?

Which would mean that the exchange participated in the ICO. But what happens if it doesn't?

they will transfer it when XTZ will be listed

So it's no wrong to assume that the price of 1 TZY will be approximatively 5$ worth. it's not too bad in my opinion  

I wouldn't assume that. Because it is so limited market. And thousands of investors have been waiting for the launch almost a year. During that time market prices went up and also expectations. I'm not sure if the investors will be willing to sell around $5.

$5 would push the total value to: 763,306,929 TZY * $5 = $3.8 bn

Thing is: If the launch should go smooth and Tezos being listed on good exchanges while the overall market situation should not be too bad or even bullish, that may be possible or even find a higher price - considered that EOS for example is traded at a marketcap of about $10 bn.

But... I personally have zero clue what to expect from this project tbh.

Any data as to what the average price for investors was? Haven't been following this a lot but it seems that there would be massive instant profit if it lists at $5?

If it launched at $5 at today's btc price those selling tezos would gain about 3x in bitcoin value.

Ok so it is quite safe to expect a good number of people to take profit when it launches in that price range.

[chesthing]

What will happen for the IOU holder on HitBTC?
the IOU TZX will be automatically transformed in real TZX?

Which would mean that the exchange participated in the ICO. But what happens if it doesn't?

they will transfer it when XTZ will be listed

So it's no wrong to assume that the price of 1 TZY will be approximatively 5$ worth. it's not too bad in my opinion  

I wouldn't assume that. Because it is so limited market. And thousands of investors have been waiting for the launch almost a year. During that time market prices went up and also expectations. I'm not sure if the investors will be willing to sell around $5.

$5 would push the total value to: 763,306,929 TZY * $5 = $3.8 bn

Thing is: If the launch should go smooth and Tezos being listed on good exchanges while the overall market situation should not be too bad or even bullish, that may be possible or even find a higher price - considered that EOS for example is traded at a marketcap of about $10 bn.

But... I personally have zero clue what to expect from this project tbh.

Any data as to what the average price for investors was? Haven't been following this a lot but it seems that there would be massive instant profit if it lists at $5?

If it launched at $5 at today's btc price those selling tezos would gain about 3x in bitcoin value.

Ok so it is quite safe to expect a good number of people to take profit when it launches in that price range.

I seriously don't think most people who were forced to hold for an entire year to be happy with 3x gains.

[legday]

What will happen for the IOU holder on HitBTC?
the IOU TZX will be automatically transformed in real TZX?

Which would mean that the exchange participated in the ICO. But what happens if it doesn't?

they will transfer it when XTZ will be listed

So it's no wrong to assume that the price of 1 TZY will be approximatively 5$ worth. it's not too bad in my opinion  

I wouldn't assume that. Because it is so limited market. And thousands of investors have been waiting for the launch almost a year. During that time market prices went up and also expectations. I'm not sure if the investors will be willing to sell around $5.

$5 would push the total value to: 763,306,929 TZY * $5 = $3.8 bn

Thing is: If the launch should go smooth and Tezos being listed on good exchanges while the overall market situation should not be too bad or even bullish, that may be possible or even find a higher price - considered that EOS for example is traded at a marketcap of about $10 bn.

But... I personally have zero clue what to expect from this project tbh.

Any data as to what the average price for investors was? Haven't been following this a lot but it seems that there would be massive instant profit if it lists at $5?

If it launched at $5 at today's btc price those selling tezos would gain about 3x in bitcoin value.

Ok so it is quite safe to expect a good number of people to take profit when it launches in that price range.

I seriously don't think most people who were forced to hold for an entire year to be happy with 3x gains.

Not when everything went at least 10x by the end of Year. Is there tomorrows release date happening, or just a rumors?