[CLOSED] Avalon ASIC chip distribution

[makngeerwork]

Thanks for the reply Zefir, your services have been above board.

     It looks like I will get my bitburners after all, will be a pleasure to overclock them until they burn up.  I shall send you S&H when they arrive and add a trust rating.  Avalon is on my permanent blacklist.

Cheers.

[shep80]

Thanks for the reply Zefir, your services have been above board.

     It looks like I will get my bitburners after all, will be a pleasure to overclock them until they burn up.  I shall send you S&H when they arrive and add a trust rating.  Avalon is on my permanent blacklist.

Cheers.

I couldn't say it better myself. It's ironic right after Avalon suggests everyone refund that the chips magically ship! 

FWIW, Burnin's hardware is excellent (I have 2 bitburners from zefir batch 1), so I'll look forward to getting it. Also looking to see what he ends up with for bitfury boards!

Thanks for all the work on this Zefir!

[iikun]

You missed this post (for B2 you need to scroll down), so yes, chips were shipped August 24th and according to tracking were all delivered.

BTW: from those list of 66 processed orders, only ~15% paid their S&H so far. It would be fair, if at least those who got their chips / boards reimburse me those expenses I had as described here.

Mine hasn't arrived yet, but I will send you S&H once it does. I did get notification that it is in my state, finally. Took a couple weeks to get through customs.

Just an FYI, maybe there are others in the same boat as me, not actually having their chips in-hand yet.

I think what Zefir means is that only 15% of those who's chips have actually arrived, ie batches 1 & 2. Which is pretty poor really. (of course this doesn't incl you as you say you are in a later batch).

There may be some users who are waiting to pay S&H after they get their boards in hand from an assembler but my understanding is that S&H is when Zefir ships their batch of chips out. C'mon people...

[zefir]

I think what Zefir means is that only 15% of those who's chips have actually arrived, ie batches 1 & 2. Which is pretty poor really. (of course this doesn't incl you as you say you are in a later batch).

There may be some users who are waiting to pay S&H after they get their boards in hand from an assembler but my understanding is that S&H is when Zefir ships their batch of chips out. C'mon people...

Right, I always told to pay S&H only after you have your boards / chips in hand, to prevent refunding them in cases we now had. Therefore, the 15% were in relation to what has been shipped out - not to the total amount of orders. But it became better meanwhile, number is already at 30%+

It looks like all remaining chips will be delivered next week. Then I'll provide a list of payments due and hope to close this chapter soon.


Prepare your mining environment, miners (hint: especially getting the efficient PSU of your choice in time sometimes turns out to be difficult).

[Schrankwand]

  It looks like I will get my bitburners after all, will be a pleasure to overclock them until they burn up.  I shall send you S&H when they arrive and add a trust rating.  Avalon is on my permanent blacklist.

True. In fact, the crazy part is, to get break even, I guess you should ramp to the absolute maximum. Even if they loose 80% of their hardware life this way, it is the only way to make sure.

If it breaks after Break even, who cares...

[Toolhead]

I will give them maximum volt and overclock with watercooling. I need to break even. After ROI they really can go up in holy smoke.

[Zalfrin]

You missed this post (for B2 you need to scroll down), so yes, chips were shipped August 24th and according to tracking were all delivered.

BTW: from those list of 66 processed orders, only ~15% paid their S&H so far. It would be fair, if at least those who got their chips / boards reimburse me those expenses I had as described here.

Mine hasn't arrived yet, but I will send you S&H once it does. I did get notification that it is in my state, finally. Took a couple weeks to get through customs.

Just an FYI, maybe there are others in the same boat as me, not actually having their chips in-hand yet.

I think what Zefir means is that only 15% of those who's chips have actually arrived, ie batches 1 & 2. Which is pretty poor really. (of course this doesn't incl you as you say you are in a later batch).

There may be some users who are waiting to pay S&H after they get their boards in hand from an assembler but my understanding is that S&H is when Zefir ships their batch of chips out. C'mon people...

Read more carefully... I was part of that batch 2 that shipped out, hence why my chips are in my state now. Just was trying to let Zefir know that just because his parcel service is reporting delivered doesn't mean it is in customers' hands yet. I assume it just means it has been accepted by the receiving nation's customs, thus it is out of international parcel post's hands.

[mastahofdesastah]

Hi all

Would somebody sell his bitburner Order?
I have 30 chips that have to be assembled. I would like a BB XX and a X with international Express delivery (ch).

Please PM offers.

Thanks

[lenny_]

Zefir,

What happened to batch 2? Were those chips all shipped out? Could you give ship dates?

You missed this post (for B2 you need to scroll down), so yes, chips were shipped August 24th and according to tracking were all delivered.

BTW: from those list of 66 processed orders, only ~15% paid their S&H so far. It would be fair, if at least those who got their chips / boards reimburse me those expenses I had as described here.

I have chips with batch #3. I will pay shipping and Customs costs once I get boards in my hands. Is that ok?

[zefir]

Zefir,

What happened to batch 2? Were those chips all shipped out? Could you give ship dates?

You missed this post (for B2 you need to scroll down), so yes, chips were shipped August 24th and according to tracking were all delivered.

BTW: from those list of 66 processed orders, only ~15% paid their S&H so far. It would be fair, if at least those who got their chips / boards reimburse me those expenses I had as described here.

I have chips with batch #3. I will pay shipping and Customs costs once I get boards in my hands. Is that ok?

Yes, that's exactly the way to go.

As for the status of the remaining 3 batches: order page still displays that shipping is prepared, but not that they are shipped. Whatever that means 

[Bitoy]

As for the status of the remaining 3 batches: order page still displays that shipping is prepared, but not that they are shipped. Whatever that means 

That is the longest "12 hours" shipping schedule.  (Then again we are in bitcoin time. Two weeks is about 2 months so 12 hours is about 2 days)

[SebastianJu]

As for the status of the remaining 3 batches: order page still displays that shipping is prepared, but not that they are shipped. Whatever that means 

That is the longest "12 hours" shipping schedule.  (Then again we are in bitcoin time. Two weeks is about 2 months so 12 hours is about 2 days)

It might be that the batches already are on the way. The last time i got sample chips i got the tracking code and 5 minutes later the postman ringed on my door...

[kmtan]

Zefir is a good cordinator

[ma_rine_sa]

so i've been out of the loop for like 2 months and i was in batch 3 and 4? judging from the first page i'm guessing shit has hit the fan and i can no longer obtain a refund?

[zefir]

Update: Remaining Batches shipped, partial Refund Offer

Shipping Notification
Today I was notified that the remaining 30k chips shipped (including DHL tracking numbers) and are expected to get delivered next week.

Those who did not yet enter and finalize shipping destination should do it now. This is your last call, without a valid destination your chips will be kept back and wasted.

so i've been out of the loop for like 2 months and i was in batch 3 and 4? judging from the first page i'm guessing shit has hit the fan and i can no longer obtain a refund?

More or less, yes, that is what the current state is. All who asked for refunds before a given deadline got their orders refunded in full. Now that chips are on their way, that's not possible any more.

In fact shit hit the fan, since after the mining profitability calculators out there bare chips won't ROI even at 50% of their bare chip price - not to mention that you have to pay for board manufacturing. Essentially, the remaining chips are waste and not worth the assembly - if you did not already paid for manufacturing.


Partial Refund Offer
Along with the wasted chips, there are numerous manufacturers around with lots of other waste (PCBs, components), who could utilize unused chips to at least make back what they spent for preparing production. If you plan to dump your chips into the next trashcan, I am offering everyone a limited partial refund for the chips that will be forwarded to those manufacturers.

I am paying 35% of the original Avalon price plus the risk margin I charged in full, totaling to 0.035BTC / chip. This is what most mining calculators spit out as break-even point, and that is sadly all I can offer you at this time. Also note that - independent of their profitability - if I ship your chips out, you have to pay the S&H expenses which for smaller orders already outreach potential mining income

This offer is valid until chips arrive and an all-or-nothing shot: either you refund everything you have left, or you don't (everything else seems irrational).

[eraziel]

In light of the shipping costs collection rate being so low, i have to admit that I have also not paid for my shipping&handling expenses. Mainly due to the fact that I've not received all chips of my batch 1 order on boards, since they were an odd count of tens and therefore burnin is still holding on to 10 of my chips which should go on a board together with the 10 chips of the "board completion batch". And they are worth ~3 times my shipping expenses for batch one.

Another reason is that, I have to admit, I was not really thrilled about the s&h pricing model, given that i have small amounts of chips in 2 batches both to be delivered to a manufacturer, but it is what it is. So as soon as I get all my chips from a given batch i will go ahead and pay the s&h charges.

[zefir]

In light of the shipping costs collection rate being so low, i have to admit that I have also not paid for my shipping&handling expenses. Mainly due to the fact that I've not received all chips of my batch 1 order on boards, since they were an odd count of tens and therefore burnin is still holding on to 10 of my chips which should go on a board together with the 10 chips of the "board completion batch". And they are worth ~3 times my shipping expenses for batch one.

Another reason is that, I have to admit, I was not really thrilled about the s&h pricing model, given that i have small amounts of chips in 2 batches both to be delivered to a manufacturer, but it is what it is. So as soon as I get all my chips from a given batch i will go ahead and pay the s&h charges.

I understand fully your position. OTOH, S&H are real expenses I had, and calculating them for each order individually would cost way more than the flat binned model I proposed. Obviously, with that, some pay more than the expenses they caused, other pay less.

I offered for cases like yours to take it as donation, and this offer still holds. Why is everybody so shy to state he has no coins left or he does not agree to the S&H payment scheme? One payment of 0.3 coins more or less will not make me a poor or a rich man, so if you think the scheme is not fair in your case, just post it and take it donated.

[eraziel]

I am not looking for handouts. The fact that you went ahead and shipped the chips asap without waiting for everyone to pay s&h is kind enough. I did infact state that s&h pricing is favoring people with big orders when it was announced/opened for discussion, especially in the case when chips are to be shipped as a part of a larger package to a manufacturer. However I want to support you to the best of my ability and honour the agreement in place. Bitcoin needs more reputable people to stick around.

[Its About Sharing]

Update: Remaining Batches shipped, partial Refund Offer

Shipping Notification
Today I was notified that the remaining 30k chips shipped (including DHL tracking numbers) and are expected to get delivered next week.

Those who did not yet enter and finalize shipping destination should do it now. This is your last call, without a valid destination your chips will be kept back and wasted.

so i've been out of the loop for like 2 months and i was in batch 3 and 4? judging from the first page i'm guessing shit has hit the fan and i can no longer obtain a refund?

More or less, yes, that is what the current state is. All who asked for refunds before a given deadline got their orders refunded in full. Now that chips are on their way, that's not possible any more.

In fact shit hit the fan, since after the mining profitability calculators out there bare chips won't ROI even at 50% of their bare chip price - not to mention that you have to pay for board manufacturing. Essentially, the remaining chips are waste and not worth the assembly - if you did not already paid for manufacturing.


Partial Refund Offer
Along with the wasted chips, there are numerous manufacturers around with lots of other waste (PCBs, components), who could utilize unused chips to at least make back what they spent for preparing production. If you plan to dump your chips into the next trashcan, I am offering everyone a limited partial refund for the chips that will be forwarded to those manufacturers.

I am paying 35% of the original Avalon price plus the risk margin I charged in full, totaling to 0.035BTC / chip. This is what most mining calculators spit out as break-even point, and that is sadly all I can offer you at this time. Also note that - independent of their profitability - if I ship your chips out, you have to pay the S&H expenses which for smaller orders already outreach potential mining income

This offer is valid until chips arrive and an all-or-nothing shot: either you refund everything you have left, or you don't (everything else seems irrational).

Would this also include Sebastian's batch 6 chips? (Or is that separate?)

Thanks,
IAS

[zefir]

Would this also include Sebastian's batch 6 chips? (Or is that separate?)

Thanks,
IAS

No, other group-buy organizers need to decide if they want to offer a similar plan.

Also it should be obvious that the offer is meant for those who do not have ordered manufacturing and can't trade their chips elsewhere for a better price - essentially as the last resort before they are trashed.