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Author Topic: [CLOSED] Avalon ASIC chip distribution  (Read 220126 times)
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September 15, 2013, 05:16:32 AM
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However I want to support you to the best of my ability and honour the agreement in place. Bitcoin needs more reputable people to stick around.
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September 15, 2013, 06:49:57 AM
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Would this also include Sebastian's batch 6 chips? (Or is that separate?)

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No, other group-buy organizers need to decide if they want to offer a similar plan.

Also it should be obvious that the offer is meant for those who do not have ordered manufacturing and can't trade their chips elsewhere for a better price - essentially as the last resort before they are trashed.

I was very unclear in my message, sorry. I thought Sebastian's group 6 buy might have been through you. I was just asking if it was shipped.

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September 15, 2013, 07:17:30 AM
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Would this also include Sebastian's batch 6 chips? (Or is that separate?)

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No, other group-buy organizers need to decide if they want to offer a similar plan.

Also it should be obvious that the offer is meant for those who do not have ordered manufacturing and can't trade their chips elsewhere for a better price - essentially as the last resort before they are trashed.

I was very unclear in my message, sorry. I thought Sebastian's group 6 buy might have been through you. I was just asking if it was shipped.

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SebastianJu's group-buy is independent of this one.

What I organized was a final batch, so the European GB-organizers could serve their last pending orders. This final batch was ordered and meanwhile refunded. From SebastianJu's initial share of 6k chips I refunded him 5k, while he will receive the remaining for those buyers who preferred to keep the chips.

If you are referring to those chips pending for delivery, you can either ask SebastianJu if he is willing to offer the same, or point him to my offer, so we can work something out.

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September 15, 2013, 11:27:35 AM
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Partial Refund Offer
Along with the wasted chips, there are numerous manufacturers around with lots of other waste (PCBs, components), who could utilize unused chips to at least make back what they spent for preparing production. If you plan to dump your chips into the next trashcan, I am offering everyone a limited partial refund for the chips that will be forwarded to those manufacturers.

I am paying 35% of the original Avalon price plus the risk margin I charged in full, totaling to 0.035BTC / chip. This is what most mining calculators spit out as break-even point, and that is sadly all I can offer you at this time. Also note that - independent of their profitability - if I ship your chips out, you have to pay the S&H expenses which for smaller orders already outreach potential mining income Sad

This offer is valid until chips arrive and an all-or-nothing shot: either you refund everything you have left, or you don't (everything else seems irrational).


Sadly it seems that the best return I can hope to get on my chips is to take up your partial refund offer.  And includes the fact that I've already paid for construction!  I wish I'd gotten my refund request in earlier and caught the full refund, but their "we're shipping this week" promise (two weeks ago now) fooled me.

I believe I already have emailed you a refund request for all my chips, just under a week ago.  And I've already paid for shipping.

Please let me know if there is anything else I need to do to get this partial refund and shipping refund happening.

Thanks, I appreciate all the work you've put in, and that you've been screwed harder by Avalon than anyone else in this thread.

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September 15, 2013, 06:46:15 PM
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Sadly it seems that the best return I can hope to get on my chips is to take up your partial refund offer.  And includes the fact that I've already paid for construction!  I wish I'd gotten my refund request in earlier and caught the full refund, but their "we're shipping this week" promise (two weeks ago now) fooled me.

I believe I already have emailed you a refund request for all my chips, just under a week ago.  And I've already paid for shipping.

Please let me know if there is anything else I need to do to get this partial refund and shipping refund happening.

Thanks, I appreciate all the work you've put in, and that you've been screwed harder by Avalon than anyone else in this thread.

Those refund requests I queued before another batch could have been refunded are canceled.

So if you want to take the partial refund offer, please request again with a short notice via email.

Also please include the request for S&H refunds and the related txid.


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September 15, 2013, 06:50:45 PM
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Partial Refund Offer
Along with the wasted chips, there are numerous manufacturers around with lots of other waste (PCBs, components), who could utilize unused chips to at least make back what they spent for preparing production. If you plan to dump your chips into the next trashcan, I am offering everyone a limited partial refund for the chips that will be forwarded to those manufacturers.

I am paying 35% of the original Avalon price plus the risk margin I charged in full, totaling to 0.035BTC / chip. This is what most mining calculators spit out as break-even point, and that is sadly all I can offer you at this time. Also note that - independent of their profitability - if I ship your chips out, you have to pay the S&H expenses which for smaller orders already outreach potential mining income Sad

This offer is valid until chips arrive and an all-or-nothing shot: either you refund everything you have left, or you don't (everything else seems irrational).


Sadly it seems that the best return I can hope to get on my chips is to take up your partial refund offer.  And includes the fact that I've already paid for construction!  I wish I'd gotten my refund request in earlier and caught the full refund, but their "we're shipping this week" promise (two weeks ago now) fooled me.

I believe I already have emailed you a refund request for all my chips, just under a week ago.  And I've already paid for shipping.

Please let me know if there is anything else I need to do to get this partial refund and shipping refund happening.

Thanks, I appreciate all the work you've put in, and that you've been screwed harder by Avalon than anyone else in this thread.

Dont get yourself to tears yet, with the pricing of burnin's bitfury boards now announced a lot of people are looking at buying bitburnerXX boards instead, so you might find some buyers for your chips Smiley
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September 15, 2013, 08:17:12 PM
Last edit: September 16, 2013, 08:23:25 PM by pazor
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we should request a compensation for the delivery delay of the chips from avalon !!!

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September 15, 2013, 08:57:44 PM
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Dont get yourself to tears yet, with the pricing of burnin's bitfury boards now announced a lot of people are looking at buying bitburnerXX boards instead, so you might find some buyers for your chips Smiley

Sorry you lost me.  You mean people are keen on burnin's other products and my preorder /place in queue may be worth something?

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September 15, 2013, 08:59:58 PM
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Dont get yourself to tears yet, with the pricing of burnin's bitfury boards now announced a lot of people are looking at buying bitburnerXX boards instead, so you might find some buyers for your chips Smiley

Sorry you lost me.  You mean people are keen on burnin's other products and my preorder /place in queue may be worth something?

He means that the new burnin boards (bitfury based) are so expensive that people don't want them...

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September 15, 2013, 10:42:29 PM
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Dont get yourself to tears yet, with the pricing of burnin's bitfury boards now announced a lot of people are looking at buying bitburnerXX boards instead, so you might find some buyers for your chips Smiley

Sorry you lost me.  You mean people are keen on burnin's other products and my preorder /place in queue may be worth something?

He means that the new burnin boards (bitfury based) are so expensive that people don't want them...

Ahhh I get it.  :-)

Sadly the way we've all been screwed by Avalon pretty soon the only fair price for a bitburner will be zero.

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September 17, 2013, 10:58:56 AM
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Any news from the remaining batches ?

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September 17, 2013, 12:04:17 PM
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Any news from the remaining batches ?

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According to tracking, one parcel is already in Europe, the other is still scheduled for pick-up (whereas I had parcels 'stuck' in this state until delivery), so I expect all remaining chips to be here this week and on their way to you / manufacturers next Monday.

At the same time, my offer for partial refunds will terminate.

There are still chips not yet assigned to a shipping destination. I am not sure if those folks left Bitcoin mining scene already or are just too lazy to provide the data. Anyway, please be aware that those won't ship now and you will have to pay S&H fees for each order individually if they do not make it into the parcel send now to manufacturers.

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September 17, 2013, 04:32:39 PM
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I have chips in the remaining batches that are slated to ship to Burnin, what is the process for those, is Burnin still making good on those? When and where do I enter my final destination shipping address for the manufactured boards?
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September 17, 2013, 04:35:56 PM
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I have chips in the remaining batches that are slated to ship to Burnin, what is the process for those, is Burnin still making good on those? When and where do I enter my final destination shipping address for the manufactured boards?

The website URL is: https://verify.wpengine.com/

And chip assignments done during 'testing' are still on it Smiley


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September 18, 2013, 07:06:26 PM
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I'm sorry since this question was probably asked and answered somewhere over the past 72 pages but...
Where do we pay shipping fees for having chips sent to a manufacturer?
I set the manufacturer I'd like my chips sent to on the website and signed the message but I was never prompted to pay for shipping.
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September 18, 2013, 07:07:39 PM
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I'm sorry since this question was probably asked and answered somewhere over the past 72 pages but...
Where do we pay shipping fees for having chips sent to a manufacturer?
I set the manufacturer I'd like my chips sent to on the website and signed the message but I was never prompted to pay for shipping.
Thanks!


Try this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=23248;sa=showPosts

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September 18, 2013, 07:26:43 PM
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I'm sorry since this question was probably asked and answered somewhere over the past 72 pages but...
Where do we pay shipping fees for having chips sent to a manufacturer?
I set the manufacturer I'd like my chips sent to on the website and signed the message but I was never prompted to pay for shipping.
Thanks!


Try this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=23248;sa=showPosts

No, don't do that, this won't be much better than reading the past 72 pages.

Seriously, don't you folks read the news in the OP? It is the topmost section, and everything relevant to know for this chip distribution is linked there. In this case the relevant line is:
Status updates:
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2013-08-14: Shipping & Handling fee structure defined

I put quite some effort to keep everything well documented, but obviously missed to see that the information was hard to find.

So to state it more clearly: if you are not following this thread, please check the OP for relevant information first.

Sorry to not make that clear enough from the beginning.

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September 19, 2013, 06:52:13 AM
Last edit: September 19, 2013, 07:06:50 AM by zefir
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Update: Shipping List prepared

With chips to arrive tomorrow (one shipment is already in Switzerland, the other departed Hongkong facility), I prepared the list of orders to ship. This is the current status:
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30 12DNdacCtUZ99qcP74FwchaCPzeDL9Voff marto74
15 1C1w5HUCgGEK7Zstd5e4RmiNpjyVUfE8zX burnin
50 1LH5sWzapTezxipyaJUqPc7FybXEGMaMeR burnin
50 1FvjTUBriHyHe7EQcsBx81U9fpd6CFD636 burnin
10 1BTmZs9a56LNWYDPbCJii17Mz5vrFmsY7Z own
10 1CZPeexvZcTSqiwH6Z1h7JtfZngJqFtHyq burnin
10 19LyHBgwkxciecEHSNonJPqSpvifwXr4UY burnin
40 1EusLtExL9UKYYFRBCsxsYmxXpsoCRJBxD burnin
30 1MUVa2bz9DbjqvWogbAioQs68bhZikWxuR burnin
20 1JzCi4EMKzPUiTiptSzfbnPSA5NmFdLuss ASICME.COM
11 1QHyDiUvu1GpmNQfYAJpw67XSuEZfDNgeC burnin
25 15xGnu9mqDuU6JXv5zfcDTTnKdLD8sdmvZ own
40 12uCEETk6LYEZ3vA3G1hnHR3q7acew8kmc burnin
50 1B8HcvE1Ag2eUR5fJZU29r7wgV9A7Rn91U burnin

This is all I have confirmed on file. Please check if your order is correctly included. On any mismatch, please PM me ASAP, since once the chips are sent, there is no way to revert.

Edit: also please check if the manufacturer of your choice is still building boards. If not, chips go into nirvana and you need to organize re-shipping them yourself.

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Zefir, you have a PM
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Hello zefir!

Could you please inform about the status of t13hydra's part of the last (joint EU) batch.

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