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[ChartBuddy]

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[xyzzy099]

Despite Jorge's protestations to the contrary, he clearly equates 'anarchy' with 'chaos' in post after post. I'm pretty sure that most people who consider themselves 'anarchists' are not aspiring to maximize the chaos in the world.

Anarchy is order without power. - Pierre-Joseph Proudhon

Sigh, again, I wrote

No, by anarchy I mean just the absence of a government and its "monopolistic" courts, police, etc.  I know that anarchists dream of an orderly and free society without government

BUT indeed I believe that anarchy, no matter how it starts, is unsustainable, and is quickly replaced by a government, internal or external; and, in the first case, often an authoritarian government, rather than a democratic one.

I think you just tried to redefine your position to something different from all the posts you made before that one here - but even if that is what you believe, then you still don't get the actual meaning of 'anarchy' as most anarchists use that word.  Anarchy is an intentional state that is achieved, not something that just 'happens when a government collapses, etc.'.

As far as the sustainability of an anarchic political equilibrium goes, you may well be right.  I have never seen any state reach a state of anarchy, as I understand it.  Communist governments ostensibly aspire to it, but I think it's clear that none has achieved any such thing so far - and I have never seen any nation with what I would consider a truly libertarian government, let alone an anarcho-libertarian one.

[YogoH]

I work at a hotel and a guy came in that owns a software company that makes software for companies to do payrolls.  We started talking and he brought up how he was going to a national conference where they are learning about bitcoin to incorporate it into their software.  Thought it was interesting.

[Erdogan]

Despite Jorge's protestations to the contrary, he clearly equates 'anarchy' with 'chaos' in post after post. I'm pretty sure that most people who consider themselves 'anarchists' are not aspiring to maximize the chaos in the world.

Anarchy is order without power. - Pierre-Joseph Proudhon

Sigh, again, I wrote

No, by anarchy I mean just the absence of a government and its "monopolistic" courts, police, etc.  I know that anarchists dream of an orderly and free society without government

BUT indeed I believe that anarchy, no matter how it starts, is unsustainable, and is quickly replaced by a government, internal or external; and, in the first case, often an authoritarian government, rather than a democratic one.

I think you just tried to redefine your position to something different from all the posts you made before that one here - but even if that is what you believe, then you still don't get the actual meaning of 'anarchy' as most anarchists use that word.  Anarchy is an intentional state that is achieved, not something that just 'happens when a government collapses, etc.'.

As far as the sustainability of an anarchic political equilibrium goes, you may well be right.  I have never seen any state reach a state of anarchy, as I understand it.  Communist governments ostensibly aspire to it, but I think it's clear that none has achieved any such thing so far - and I have never seen any nation with what I would consider a truly libertarian government, let alone an anarcho-libertarian one.

It could work if extracting the resources from the population cost more than the resources itself. Then the rulers will starve and disappear like vampires in sunlight.

[macsga]

[freedomno1]

That most definitely belongs in another thread as well
Well chosen pic macsga

[bitcodo]

Not funny anymore

[kodtycoon]

I work at a hotel and a guy came in that owns a software company that makes software for companies to do payrolls.  We started talking and he brought up how he was going to a national conference where they are learning about bitcoin to incorporate it into their software.  Thought it was interesting.

you don't know the name of the company by any chance no?

[greenlion]

Anarchy on a larger scale often arises involuntarily after the collapse of a centralized government with a complex administrative infrastructure

Anarchy does not arise after the collapse of a government.

That's a flawed as saying that atheism arises after a church burns down.

It's not worth it, this guy will just keep redefining what he thinks anarchy is until whatever he's claiming is unfalsifiable but completely meaningless.

[ChartBuddy]

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[greenlion]

So what we've learned today is that the Reagan / AT&T divestiture comment was trollbait to just copy/paste the wikipedia page, and twist something that everyone with any common sense knows (that the thing didn't arise out of thin air in one second) into some kind of red herring support for a statement that didn't even make sense in the first place. I.e. turning something very nuanced and sophisticated and open to all kinds of analysis and interpretation into a Jeopardy question in order to produce irrelevant support for a pretty shit generalization in the first place.

This guy is either the biggest asshole ever, or a pretty skilled and subtle troll.

[Dotto]

It someone knows a good place to get a decent TA talk, please share the address, this thread is getting worse and worst quality.

By the way, it seems the dumper manipulator whales are drying his stack, price is slowly and steadily climbing +24h

[Ivanhoe]

It someone knows a good place to get a decent TA talk, please share the address, this thread is getting worse and worst quality.

By the way, it seems the dumper manipulator whales are drying his stack, price is slowly and steadily climbing +24h

Try www.tradingview.com

[Argwai96]

It someone knows a good place to get a decent TA talk, please share the address, this thread is getting worse and worst quality.

By the way, it seems the dumper manipulator whales are drying his stack, price is slowly and steadily climbing +24h

Try www.tradingview.com

Also, consider checking out the "Bitcoin" chat on tradingview. It took me a little while to find it. But lots of traders share their charts there (and cheerlead for their positions )

[ChartBuddy]

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[Bitcoin_is_here_to_stay]

It someone knows a good place to get a decent TA talk, please share the address, this thread is getting worse and worst quality.

By the way, it seems the dumper manipulator whales are drying his stack, price is slowly and steadily climbing +24h

Try www.tradingview.com

Also, consider checking out the "Bitcoin" chat on tradingview. It took me a little while to find it. But lots of traders share their charts there (and cheerlead for their positions )

How to find it? I have been on TradingView for a while, but have no idea ho to find that chat .

[Ivanhoe]

It someone knows a good place to get a decent TA talk, please share the address, this thread is getting worse and worst quality.

By the way, it seems the dumper manipulator whales are drying his stack, price is slowly and steadily climbing +24h

Try www.tradingview.com

Also, consider checking out the "Bitcoin" chat on tradingview. It took me a little while to find it. But lots of traders share their charts there (and cheerlead for their positions )

How to find it? I have been on TradingView for a while, but have no idea ho to find that chat .

You can see it on the right on the screen, but only if you are signed in.

[Bitcoin_is_here_to_stay]

It someone knows a good place to get a decent TA talk, please share the address, this thread is getting worse and worst quality.

By the way, it seems the dumper manipulator whales are drying his stack, price is slowly and steadily climbing +24h

Try www.tradingview.com

Also, consider checking out the "Bitcoin" chat on tradingview. It took me a little while to find it. But lots of traders share their charts there (and cheerlead for their positions )

How to find it? I have been on TradingView for a while, but have no idea ho to find that chat .

You can see it on the right on the screen, but only if you are signed in.

Ok, I first went into bitcoin news instead of bitcoin chat, LOL. Thanks!

[AceWallen]

http://www.coindesk.com/polish-finance-ministry-says-bitcoin-can-used-financial-instrument/

"Polish Finance Ministry Says Bitcoin Can Be Used as Financial Instrument" --> i dunno about you guys, but i think that's bullish sounding....

[ChartBuddy]

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