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June 29, 2013, 03:57:40 PM
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Democrats & Republicans (Communist too)  are 2 sides of the same coin - collectivists, (the average is more important than the individual)
Libertarians - individualism, (individuals free from coercion will best serve the whole) the US is founded on the principles of individual freedoms and it provided to serve the whole better than other forms of collectivism up until its demise between the 2 world wars.

That clarifies it a little. I've always felt that collectivists were the problem, whether they were corporations, unions, motorcycle gangs, or governments.

Here in Canada there is a strong tradition of individual rights. Most people considered Pierre Trudeau to be a socialist, but when he created the Canadian Constitution and Charter of Rights, he stated that collective rights should never have precedence over individual rights. I guess that made him a bit of a Libertarian.
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June 29, 2013, 04:10:21 PM
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Here in Canada there is a strong tradition of individual rights. Most people considered Pierre Trudeau to be a socialist, but when he created the Canadian Constitution and Charter of Rights, he stated that collective rights should never have precedence over individual rights. I guess that made him a bit of a Libertarian.

There has been a strong history of individualist thinking throughout the west. Unfortunately, we seem to be in a period where collectivism has come to dominate everything since, as has been said, between the world wars. It cannot stand but it is hard to predict (and somewhat scary to attempt to) how the situation will be rectified
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June 29, 2013, 04:16:05 PM
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Yes the Libertarian ideal is a lie. That's the joke. Libertarians are Republicans in disguise.

I agree in bold their very similar but there is a big difference though, the difference is Republicans use consensus and the tools of law and FED to maintain there wealth.

Libertarians are nothing more than poor republicans. All my protesting hippie college friends that graduated and made a fat stack of cash became republicans. Is republican some sort of code for sell-out? lol
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June 29, 2013, 04:17:00 PM
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I have analyzed by this method again in 2011:

I do not predict trend in 2013 according to 2011 bubbles.

But, who in 2011 according to this method sold and bought spared large losses (sold for 10 to 12, bought for 2-4, it is more than 250%).

Also in 2011 but the price of most collapsed after breaking Support on about $ 12 and the uptrend started to price first breached the "red line".

On the other hand, in 2011 was vastly different accumulation and distribution.

I still expect that if he falls below $ 92 a declining trend even faster this year. If we break up triangle, uptrend begins.

I believe that will see up to 10 days the end of the triangle.

Well, a symetrical triangle often does run around 3 months and we are approaching 3 months. So, we'll have to keep an eye on the next few weeks.
I just get the feeling we are in a longer downtrend. But will pay attention of course for a breakout.
It is a bit challenging to stay out of something you believe in...

The thing that has me concerned is the divergence of the money flow (up) from the price (down). This is bullish.
The Chalkin money flow is not showing this however, though it often breaks up once crossing below the line, so something to keep an eye on.



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June 29, 2013, 04:25:33 PM
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The charts are eerily similar.

IAS, I definitely Agree, that "The charts are eerily similar" for now.








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June 29, 2013, 04:29:23 PM
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But, money flow divergences have not been strongly correlated after the last crash. The Chalkin money flow once it went below the zero line did correlate.
(Note - Again, this is 2011, not 2013 but it says so. Just notice the prices to the right)



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June 29, 2013, 04:32:41 PM
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The spread between Bitstamp and Gox is getting larger. Why?
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The thing that has me concerned is the divergence of the money flow (up) from the price (down). This is bullish.

I agree too,. that Money Flow is looks good.

Also, particular the accumulation: 2011



2013



Actually, I do not know. Is this more Bitcoin in "strong hands" long-term investors, or even panic just yet break out??

The only thing of which I know that everyone must consider the risk itself.

We can for example ::
Find a bottom around $ 30 and we can stay on the bounce for a long time under the $ 100 (between 50-75)
I also still can rebound and today's price of $ 90 may be a long-term cheap.
Unfortunately, this are a lot different options. Cool
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I believe that will see up to 10 days the end of the triangle.
We really are due for a breakout of said triangle. I would not be surprised if we breakout within three days.
Yes we will be outside the triangle by 8 August, but rather earlier.



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June 29, 2013, 04:59:47 PM
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Yes the Libertarian ideal is a lie. That's the joke. Libertarians are Republicans in disguise.

Indeed.

The non-aggression principle... what a joke.

I prefer to live my life as I see fit, by pillaging and raping on the go!

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June 29, 2013, 05:04:58 PM
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Yes the Libertarian ideal is a lie. That's the joke. Libertarians are Republicans in disguise.

Indeed.

The non-aggression principle... what a joke.

I prefer to live my life as I see fit, by pillaging and raping on the go!

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As long as the collective (or The Borg) is behind you.
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June 29, 2013, 06:14:54 PM
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Yes the Libertarian ideal is a lie. That's the joke. Libertarians are Republicans in disguise.

Indeed.

The non-aggression principle... what a joke.

I prefer to live my life as I see fit, by pillaging and raping on the go!

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As long as the collective (or The Borg) is behind you.

I only like raping those who deserve it - so I exclusively rape republicans.
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June 29, 2013, 06:19:46 PM
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Yes the Libertarian ideal is a lie. That's the joke. Libertarians are Republicans in disguise.

Indeed.

The non-aggression principle... what a joke.

I prefer to live my life as I see fit, by pillaging and raping on the go!

 Roll Eyes
As long as the collective (or The Borg) is behind you.

I only like raping those who deserve it - so I exclusively rape republicans.
And you are so godly wise that we can give you the power and can trust that you always rape just those who deserves it?

EDIT. Should I sell more coins?
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June 29, 2013, 06:33:14 PM
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Yes the Libertarian ideal is a lie. That's the joke. Libertarians are Republicans in disguise.

Indeed.

The non-aggression principle... what a joke.

I prefer to live my life as I see fit, by pillaging and raping on the go!

 Roll Eyes
As long as the collective (or The Borg) is behind you.

I only like raping those who deserve it - so I exclusively rape republicans.
And you are so godly wise that we can give you the power and can trust that you always rape just those who deserves it?

EDIT. Should I sell more coins?

No, you don't have to give me the power. I don't believe in NAP. I'll just take it. Libertarian raping is easy. By the time they ramp up to self defense their butts are already bleeding. lol

NAP explained: http://dbzer0.com/blog/why-the-non-aggression-principle-is-useless-as-a-moral-guideline

Don't sell yet.
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June 29, 2013, 06:52:18 PM
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[...]No, you don't have to give me the power. I don't believe in NAP. I'll just take it. Libertarian raping is easy. By the time they ramp up to self defense their butts are already bleeding. lol

NAP explained: http://dbzer0.com/blog/why-the-non-aggression-principle-is-useless-as-a-moral-guideline

Don't sell yet.

I prefer the euphemism "surprise butsecs" Smiley

Edit:  After all, we still have to say "hi" to those people afterwards...  Wanna keep that stuff *friendly*
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June 29, 2013, 07:16:00 PM
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Ok, more friendly. Does anyone not have ChartBuddy on ignore?
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June 29, 2013, 07:19:21 PM
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Ok, more friendly. Does anyone not have ChartBuddy on ignore?

+1

Chartbuddy should have this own topic, to avoid bumping this without human content.
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June 29, 2013, 07:19:51 PM
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No more triple digits for 2013. Embarrassed
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Ok, more friendly. Does anyone not have ChartBuddy on ignore?

me. i kinda like the info.
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