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November 30, 2014, 07:53:17 PM

I suppose one 'angle of attack' against btc is to try and de-anonymise it as much as possible and kick away one leg propping up its price to a degree, dark web transactions. Even if that is just a perceived change of safety amongst potential users it could be effective.

Still it hasn't been an even remotely effective strategy with conventional bit torrent.


Because governments don't really care that much about you sharing child porn and DVD rips?
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November 30, 2014, 07:58:08 PM

This is a very FUDesque comment, but if not BFX, could it be the bear whale who is accumulating all of the coins for a dump?

I mean, he's got to lose money on dumps, anyways... maybe this is a way for him to at least minimize the lost money -- accumulate at a more or less fixed price.

Thoughts:
(1) BFX ramping up the price -- bullish;
(2) Somebody with an inside scoop trying to accumulate on the cheap -- bullish;
(3) Some nihilist who wants to see the entire world burn -- bearish



Possible.
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November 30, 2014, 08:00:58 PM

What is your point lambchop?

Governments don't care about people downloading dvd rips on torrent, industry does. And they lobby western governments hard to try and protect their dwindling resources.

Childporn is criminal and should be pursued by the police with whatever powers they have.
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November 30, 2014, 08:01:00 PM


Explanation
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November 30, 2014, 08:03:25 PM

Why is child porn being discussed on a BTC forum?

Take that shit to off topic or preferably somewhere else altogether.
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November 30, 2014, 08:03:43 PM

erm did I miss something?

When the various global police authorities took down 400 dark web sites a few weeks ago it seemed things may have changed for the worse regarding Tor. I don't know the technical details but I was under the impression they had performed some kind of Sybil attack to isolate users to specific IP's to identify offending servers.

Either way there is no need to use Tor to maintain privacy.
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November 30, 2014, 08:05:42 PM


Since when was it anonymous?
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November 30, 2014, 08:15:18 PM

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-11-30/swiss-vote-against-gold-deals-blow-to-investors-hurt-by-slump.html

Bearish news for gold.

Sorry if repost.
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November 30, 2014, 08:16:35 PM


Back when it had utility.
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November 30, 2014, 08:17:27 PM

What is your point lambchop?

Governments don't care about people downloading dvd rips on torrent, industry does. And they lobby western governments hard to try and protect their dwindling resources.

Childporn is criminal and should be pursued by the police with whatever powers they have.

My point is jaywalking is criminal too, though governments will not make as great an effort to stomp out jaywalking as they would with something which threatens their very lifeblood--money.

Why does such shit need to be explained?  Am I talking to a wayward child blowing off school to troll the intertubes?  How old ru bro?
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November 30, 2014, 08:20:12 PM

Because your implied point wasn't clear, obviously, rudey.

Bitcoin is not illegal last time I checked.
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November 30, 2014, 08:20:59 PM


Not broken. Maybe people rely on it too much, all it can do is to hide your ip address.

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November 30, 2014, 08:22:21 PM

Why is child porn being discussed on a BTC forum?

Take that shit to off topic or preferably somewhere else altogether.

Yeah, that is not for us, that is for the politicians.

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November 30, 2014, 08:22:36 PM


I second this question.

The article merely explains how the paper explains how bitcoin nodes can be pushed from tor and forced to connect through clearnet by triggering DOS protection against the tor gateway IPs.

Doesn't imply tor is broken at all.

btw: there's still a simple way to hide your IP when making a transaction: Hide in the mass of people using the same electrum (or obelisk, or ...) server. Yes, you have to trust the server operator to not store your IP or to not give it out. If you can't bring yourself to do that, just run your own server and get other to use it.
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November 30, 2014, 08:22:50 PM


Gold is bearish last 1 year, so it's not really big news. We all know price of gold dropping regularly.
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November 30, 2014, 08:24:11 PM

Either way there is no need to use Tor to maintain privacy.

There isn't? What are other ways?
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November 30, 2014, 08:24:34 PM

What is your point lambchop?

Governments don't care about people downloading dvd rips on torrent, industry does. And they lobby western governments hard to try and protect their dwindling resources.

Childporn is criminal and should be pursued by the police with whatever powers they have.

My point is jaywalking is criminal too, though governments will not make as great an effort to stomp out jaywalking as they would with something which threatens their very lifeblood--money.

Why does such shit need to be explained?  Am I talking to a wayward child blowing off school to troll the intertubes?  How old ru bro?

Jaywalking, child porn, media pirating and bitcoin are all the same... great comparison.



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November 30, 2014, 08:27:06 PM

Either way there is no need to use Tor to maintain privacy.

There isn't? What are other ways?


Simply using a web wallet via a public computer / networks should do the trick.
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November 30, 2014, 08:28:43 PM

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Jaywalking, child porn, media pirating and bitcoin are all the same... great comparison.

File sharing and Bitcoin--with proponents openly claiming to make fiat obsolete are the same...  great comparison.

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November 30, 2014, 08:34:17 PM

Because your implied point wasn't clear, obviously, rudey.

Bitcoin is not illegal last time I checked.

Not yet, but you've forgotten what I'm replying to, though it was posted by yourself just a few minutes ago:

I suppose one 'angle of attack' against btc is to try and de-anonymise it as much as possible and kick away one leg propping up its price to a degree, dark web transactions. Even if that is just a perceived change of safety amongst potential users it could be effective.

Still it hasn't been an even remotely effective strategy with conventional bit torrent.

I understand a chipmunk's long-term memory is only three days long--the acorns burred before that are forgotten.
Yours is clearly much shorter--a fun fact you'll forget in a few minutes. Smiley
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