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July 19, 2017, 08:04:23 PM

Another ether hack...roll it back?
https://twitter.com/maraoz/status/887751004971831296
 Manuel Aráoz‏ @maraoz 43m43 minutes ago

Someone stole ~$32M (~153k ether) from three multisig wallets. More info and blog post coming soon.
https://etherscan.io/address/0xb3764761e297d6f121e79c32a65829cd1ddb4d32#internaltx

ooh lovely. the wallet was made by https://github.com/paritytech who are partly funded by bitmain and recently published a rust bitcoin implementation
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July 19, 2017, 08:07:01 PM

Yeah, I am also wondering what's going on.

So it's went over 80% and has now dropped below. Why would they do this?

What is the advantage of doing that?

maybe they want to get moar bitcoins and this is opportunity to manipulate price so they can get them dirt cheap  Smiley
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July 19, 2017, 08:13:22 PM
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Yeah, I am also wondering what's going on.

So it's went over 80% and has now dropped below. Why would they do this?

What is the advantage of doing that?


They did the same with Litecoin, the first activation period after the agreement was a near miss. The price was basically following the signaling rate, so it dropped. Then when the hashrate was getting higher in the second activation period it started mooning. It was a funny rollercoaster.

In the case of Bitcoin another consideration is that miners have started signaling earlier than it was expected, 21 July. Bitfury has already said will start signaling tomorrow, slush too, and f2pool loves to troll and is not saying anything, but will most probably do the same as per the agreement.

There is still possibility of lock-in in this period, but I wouldn't count on it. Most probably the lock-in will come on sunday.
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July 19, 2017, 08:14:18 PM

Yeah, I am also wondering what's going on.

So it's went over 80% and has now dropped below. Why would they do this?

What is the advantage of doing that?


The advantage is making a shit ton of money. If I had control of a significant amount of hashrate (2%+) I'd be changing my signalling to manipulate the markets.
It could be just as easy as:
  • Turn on signalling
  • Signalling goes over 80%
  • BTC price increases
  • Dump BTC
  • Turn off signalling
  • Load up on cheaper coins
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July 19, 2017, 08:16:29 PM

Ok. Thanks guys

See what happens over the next few days then.
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July 19, 2017, 08:20:48 PM

A price breaking upward through ~$2460 or so with RISING buy volume/pressure would signal a trend reversal. We would need to break the pattern of lower highs and lower lows into the next month.

Otherwise, we are still firmly in a downtrend. Because gravity. Also, overall crypto market cap still decreasing.

Still relevant... hasn't broken $2460 to the upside. Buying volume has tapered off. Also notice that perfect 'V' on Stamp. The whale(s) that drove the price down to 1830, drove it right back up to where it was before. Overall sentiment has not changed.

I feel very much abused by these whale(s). What direction do you think the market will go?   I was starting to feel that BIP 91 was a sure thing but not so sure any more.  Thoughts ?

My opinion is down. Macro-bots appear to already be trading a downtrend since the 2980 top. Possibility of getting SegWit is mostly priced in, maybe a short term rise (second of a double top), but it'll be a bull trap and won't last.
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July 19, 2017, 08:25:26 PM

A price breaking upward through ~$2460 or so with RISING buy volume/pressure would signal a trend reversal. We would need to break the pattern of lower highs and lower lows into the next month.

Otherwise, we are still firmly in a downtrend. Because gravity. Also, overall crypto market cap still decreasing.

Still relevant... hasn't broken $2460 to the upside. Buying volume has tapered off. Also notice that perfect 'V' on Stamp. The whale(s) that drove the price down to 1830, drove it right back up to where it was before. Overall sentiment has not changed.

I feel very much abused by these whale(s). What direction do you think the market will go?   I was starting to feel that BIP 91 was a sure thing but not so sure any more.  Thoughts ?

My opinion is down. Macro-bots appear to already be trading a downtrend since the 2980 top. Possibility of getting SegWit is mostly priced in, maybe a short term rise (second of a double top), but it'll be a bull trap and won't last.


Thanks for sharing your opinion. This was a bad time to do margin trading with such uncertainty. Lesson learnt
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July 19, 2017, 08:27:46 PM

Another "BIP DIP" lol, time to buy again perhaps.

I thought this was about all settled...... 91
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July 19, 2017, 08:30:09 PM

But what % of miners are actually running the btc1 garbage? I was under the impression that most miners were still running Bitcoin Core and not btc1.

Well, if everyone is running btc1, then im sure I know now why the price is not taking off to an ATH. We can't get an ATH if people are running shit code.

It should be equal to the number of miners signalling for BIP91, as Core doesn't signal for that BIP (unless, as bitserve mentions, they're running a patched version, which could be just as bad).

Another ether hack...roll it back?
https://twitter.com/maraoz/status/887751004971831296
 Manuel Aráoz‏ @maraoz 43m43 minutes ago

Someone stole ~$32M (~153k ether) from three multisig wallets. More info and blog post coming soon.
https://etherscan.io/address/0xb3764761e297d6f121e79c32a65829cd1ddb4d32#internaltx

Ha, was only a matter of time. Maybe all those clueless buyers will gain a little bit better an understanding of what it is they're bagholding. Should be much more difficult to roll this one back too if the funds are free to move (with the DAO the funds were locked to a single account for a several week period which made it easy).
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July 19, 2017, 08:32:37 PM

the only time i buy eth on a dip and it's hacked lol

oh well it was peanuts

will btc follow eth is the question, panic is contagious
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July 19, 2017, 08:38:14 PM

only 15 to 25 have made there  guess on when we brake another ATH             ATH  ATH   ATH   GAME   !!!!

and get paid by me for the one guesses most closly ( 0.25BTC ) as another ( 0.25 BTC) for giving the best explanation why the raise at that time

anybody more wants to take a guess feel free to take a date

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July 19, 2017, 08:48:03 PM

Yeah, I am also wondering what's going on.

So it's went over 80% and has now dropped below. Why would they do this?

What is the advantage of doing that?


The advantage is making a shit ton of money. If I had control of a significant amount of hashrate (2%+) I'd be changing my signalling to manipulate the markets.
It could be just as easy as:
  • Turn on signalling
  • Signalling goes over 80%
  • BTC price increases
  • Dump BTC
  • Turn off signalling
  • Load up on cheaper coins

Bitfury was signalling for BIP141 and BIP91.  They then mined 4 blocks in a row that signalled only for BIP141.  After that, Bitfury quit mining blocks completely, and they have not mined a block since block #476476.

The loss of the Bitfury blocks would account for the drop in signalling.  What has happened to Bitfury is not known (at least to me).  I seriously doubt that they are intentionally not finding blocks though.

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July 19, 2017, 08:55:08 PM

going up would be too predictable. I suspect one more big dump down.

Looks like a lot of people were left fiat bagholding during last panic sell. Now they are desperate to see at least one last dip. I think they'll be left with fiat bags and hesitate which alt to shoot at.
I was only buying into the dump, but selling as it was going up. but true, I'd like to load again  Grin
Charts seem to be positioning for a drop. Im waiting at 2015, 1855 and 1755.
Watching closely the price is at $2248 but I think dump will happen any time soon before the month end because there will a lot panic due to the thirteen participate bitcoin exchanges planning to suspend the depositing and withdrawing bitcoin early next  month in Japan.
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July 19, 2017, 08:56:49 PM
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the only time i buy eth on a dip and it's hacked lol

oh well it was peanuts

will btc follow eth is the question, panic is contagious
Well the ETH hack was announced a day ago, yet yesterday ETH was rocketing for a while   Huh

Maybe nobody had heard yet? lol somebody made a quick buck.

Anyways, I think BTC is just going thru the motions" little to do with ETH, probably....
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July 19, 2017, 08:59:15 PM

going up would be too predictable. I suspect one more big dump down.

Looks like a lot of people were left fiat bagholding during last panic sell. Now they are desperate to see at least one last dip. I think they'll be left with fiat bags and hesitate which alt to shoot at.
I was only buying into the dump, but selling as it was going up. but true, I'd like to load again  Grin
Charts seem to be positioning for a drop. Im waiting at 2015, 1855 and 1755.

Maybe park your btc in MNE for a while? Low supply, good ongoing development and potential twin release end of August.
If this Alt attracts liquidity it will def be a worthwhile investment until btc is open for entry again in a couple of weeks.
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July 19, 2017, 09:03:31 PM

Another ether hack...roll it back?
https://twitter.com/maraoz/status/887751004971831296
 Manuel Aráoz‏ @maraoz 43m43 minutes ago

Someone stole ~$32M (~153k ether) from three multisig wallets. More info and blog post coming soon.
https://etherscan.io/address/0xb3764761e297d6f121e79c32a65829cd1ddb4d32#internaltx

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July 19, 2017, 09:13:04 PM
Last edit: July 19, 2017, 09:45:50 PM by Last of the V8s

Another ether hack...roll it back?
https://twitter.com/maraoz/status/887751004971831296
 Manuel Aráoz‏ @maraoz 43m43 minutes ago

Someone stole ~$32M (~153k ether) from three multisig wallets. More info and blog post coming soon.
https://etherscan.io/address/0xb3764761e297d6f121e79c32a65829cd1ddb4d32#internaltx

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idosay.gif. and it's [edited] reputed to be [/edit]the dao hacker's address collecting it all again
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July 19, 2017, 09:36:19 PM

Another ether hack...roll it back?
https://twitter.com/maraoz/status/887751004971831296
 Manuel Aráoz‏ @maraoz 43m43 minutes ago

Someone stole ~$32M (~153k ether) from three multisig wallets. More info and blog post coming soon.
https://etherscan.io/address/0xb3764761e297d6f121e79c32a65829cd1ddb4d32#internaltx

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idosay.gif. and it's the dao hacker's address collecting it all again

Wut? You mean the stolen funds are going to the same addresses as the one during the DAO hack? The black or the white ones?
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July 19, 2017, 09:41:06 PM

Watching closely the price is at $2248 but I think dump will happen any time soon before the month end because there will a lot panic due to the thirteen participate bitcoin exchanges planning to suspend the depositing and withdrawing bitcoin early next  month in Japan.
yeah, and it would be the logical way for big players to harvest bitcoins from those panic sellers. only question is, if there are still that many potential weak hands ready to panic sell.
We'll see. If it goes down, I'll be buying+ if it should get sub 1500, I am ready to raid my bank account and put more funds into bitcoin + hold long term.

Maybe park your btc in MNE for a while? Low supply, good ongoing development and potential twin release end of August.
If this Alt attracts liquidity it will def be a worthwhile investment until btc is open for entry again in a couple of weeks.
I have parked several bitcoins into ORB 3 years ago Cheesy It has +-same market cap as what you suggest.
But what i need now, is to increase my meager bitcoin holdings, so i have to have fiat ready in case it drops. So im not adding any other coins into long term investments portfolio for now.

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Wut? You mean the stolen funds are going to the same addresses as the one during the DAO hack? The black or the white ones?
that'd be funny.
 I should have shorted more eth :/
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July 19, 2017, 09:45:07 PM
Last edit: July 19, 2017, 10:02:04 PM by Last of the V8s

Another ether hack...roll it back?
https://twitter.com/maraoz/status/887751004971831296
 Manuel Aráoz‏ @maraoz 43m43 minutes ago

Someone stole ~$32M (~153k ether) from three multisig wallets. More info and blog post coming soon.
https://etherscan.io/address/0xb3764761e297d6f121e79c32a65829cd1ddb4d32#internaltx

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idosay.gif. and it's the dao hacker's address collecting it all again

Wut? You mean the stolen funds are going to the same addresses as the one during the DAO hack? The black or the white ones?

Look I apologise that part is not yet proven. I edited my original claiming so.

edit : now disproven- was stupid enough to believe this guy's enthusiasm https://twitter.com/cryptocoinrun/
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