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[CoinCube]

Yeah, religion is super important. Nietzsche predicted that replacing religion with secularism would lead to pretty much what happened a century later. But religion requires ignorance, and we simply know too much now. Not gonna come back in our time.

And this probably also has to do with the cultural cycle. A rising culture is a united one, and nothing unites people like religion. r's, on the other hand, are individualistic and so have less need for religion.

And yes, it is true that jews helped invent some stuff. But the advanced technology we have today is also one of the factors in our decline. It makes life easy, and it is an easy and safe life that turns people into r's. And I question the overall benefit of the nuclear bomb.

Where we appear to differ is in the assumption that knowledge is somehow at odds with faith.

Here are some arguments that may change you mind.
The More Rational Model

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[conspirosphere.tk]

If it makes you feel better it is possible I could someday be a Jew years from now. Modern Orthodox Judaism is a very logical faith and their lifestyle is very healthy.

Really? I don't think that they accept any new entry if your mother is not jew, even if you hack your dick. I thought about this move myself in order to gain a second passport, but it seems that only russian mafiamen are allowed in.

[CoinCube]

If it makes you feel better it is possible I could someday be a Jew years from now. Modern Orthodox Judaism is a very logical faith and their lifestyle is very healthy.

Really? I don't think that they accept any new entry if your mother is not jew, even if you hack your dick. I thought about this move myself in order to gain a second passport, but it seems that only russian mafiamen are allowed in.

No you can convert but its a lot of work and involves significant lifestyle changes.

I have hijacked the Wall Observer thread quite enough for one day so I will now bow out of this discussion. Thank you all for your patience I felt this was too important an issue to leave unchallenged even if it was off topic.

[conspirosphere.tk]

At least r0ach was somewhat funny mixing his hate speeches with defending PM's against Bitcoin while we were hugely profiting from it.

Yeah, I miss him and I hope to see him back. In fact I am shitposting here thinking about him. Anyway just today I bought about 15 Kilos of silver for less than 2 BTC. Just because you never know.

[marcus_of_augustus]

Solar eclipses are harbingers of disaster ... Texas flooding is looking pretty bad ... 50-60 inches rain on a huge metropolitan area is going to unleash some large forces that governments cannot control.

[conspirosphere.tk]

I have hijacked the Wall Observer thread quite enough for one day so I will now bow out of this discussion. Thank you all for your patience I felt this was too important an issue to leave unchallenged even if it was off topic.

Don't worry, this is the general purpose thread where anything happens. But if you manage to become a jew please let us know how.
KThx

[CoinCube]

Don't worry, this is the general purpose thread where anything happens. But if you manage to become a jew please let us know how.
KThx

I can't quite tell if you are serious or not.

Its not some sort of secret society it's a religion. I am not trying to convert but the steps are well known for those with genuine interest.

http://www.wikihow.com/Convert-to-Judaism

[infofront]

Guys, I converted to Judaism today. After the ceremony, I was handed a kilo of gold, paid for by the blood and sweat of the goyim. Immediately after, I received my job offer from Goldman Sachs, and I was handed an invitation to the Bilderbergs.

But none of this has anything to do with the reason I converted. I did it for the jokes!

[CoinCube]

Guys, I converted to Judaism today. After the ceremony, I was handed a kilo of gold, paid for by the blood and sweat of the goyim. Immediately after, I received my job offer from Goldman Sachs, and I was handed an invitation to the Bilderbergs.

But none of this has anything to do with the reason I converted. I did it for the jokes!

Sigh... 

[BTCtrader71]

You are not the only one sickened at the rampant right wing, Neo-Nazi, antisemitic bile on here.

I find it sickening too.

But I'd rather mock / laugh at them than feed the trolls. There's only so much time in the day.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMQkV5cTuoY&feature=youtu.be

[Ibian]

Yeah, religion is super important. Nietzsche predicted that replacing religion with secularism would lead to pretty much what happened a century later. But religion requires ignorance, and we simply know too much now. Not gonna come back in our time.

And this probably also has to do with the cultural cycle. A rising culture is a united one, and nothing unites people like religion. r's, on the other hand, are individualistic and so have less need for religion.

And yes, it is true that jews helped invent some stuff. But the advanced technology we have today is also one of the factors in our decline. It makes life easy, and it is an easy and safe life that turns people into r's. And I question the overall benefit of the nuclear bomb.

Where we appear to differ is in the assumption that knowledge is somehow at odds with faith.

Here are some arguments that may change you mind.
The More Rational Model

It is. Knowledge defies faith, which is why god went poof in a cloud of logic.

Just skimmed that link and not gonna bother with it, except for this little tidbit: "Our model explains things such as why stars look fair and beautiful to our eyes when it serves no credible Darwinian purpose to do so."

Yes it does. Stars are not dangerous to us so there was never a reason to develop a negative reaction to them, and we like sparkly things. Probably because water is easier to find when it reflects light, water being required to survive. And of course we use them to navigate, probably since millions of years ago. Stars benefit our survival.

That seems trivial to me, which is why I will assume the rest is as well.

[chesthing]

Guys, I converted to Judaism today. After the ceremony, I was handed a kilo of gold, paid for by the blood and sweat of the goyim. Immediately after, I received my job offer from Goldman Sachs, and I was handed an invitation to the Bilderbergs.

But none of this has anything to do with the reason I converted. I did it for the jokes!

Awesome post! 
This is the sort of shit I expect from those who never have to worry about money again - keep em' coming btc whales! (bathrobe heros)

[CoinCube]

It is. Knowledge defies faith, which is why god went poof in a cloud of logic.

Just skimmed that link and not gonna bother with it, except for this little tidbit: "Our model explains things such as why stars look fair and beautiful to our eyes when it serves no credible Darwinian purpose to do so."

Yes it does. Stars are not dangerous to us so there was never a reason to develop a negative reaction to them, and we like sparkly things. Probably because water is easier to find when it reflects light, water being required to survive. And of course we use them to navigate, probably since millions of years ago. Stars benefit our survival.

That seems trivial to me, which is why I will assume the rest is as well.

I am actually sympathetic to your position as I was a strong agnostic/atheist for most of my adult life. I ended up that way by reading the Old Testament and being turned off by the barbarism of those times. That combined with a very skeptical personality and exposure in my youth to a disproportionate number of inarticulate religious folks set me on a 20 year path of firm agnosticism. I viewed the religious as foolish holding quaint but outdated and untrue views.

It took me the better part of a quarter century before I gradually realized that the inarticulate bumpkins of my youth despite their lack of sophistication were more or less correct and it was I with my smug intellectual superiority that had adopted the untenable position.

I reached the conclusion not due to any great spiritual event or conversation but the application of logic and consequence. Below is the logic that pulled me away from agnosticism. It is essentially an essay divided into 6 parts.

Since you have adopted the position you have I recommend reading it if for no other reason then to understand the logical basis of an opposing view.  

Health and Religion
Religion and Progress
The Nature of Freedom
The Beginning of Wisdom
Faith and Future
The More Rational Model

[Ibian]

Heard all the arguments. And I didn't adopt anything, I simply don't believe in fairy tales. Show me your god and we'll talk.

Of course, the endless army of invisible pink unicorns do exist. You can tell because they are pink unicorns, just look at them.

[White sugar]

Don't worry, this is the general purpose thread where anything happens. But if you manage to become a jew please let us know how.
KThx

I can't quite tell if you are serious or not.

Its not some sort of secret society it's a religion. I am not trying to convert but the steps are well known for those with genuine interest.

http://www.wikihow.com/Convert-to-Judaism

Jews(at least some) dislike people that are not from a "pure" jewish lineage, if your father or or grandpa was not Jew, then you'll suffer prejudice. Must be worse with converted people.

So want to join the Jews without a pure jewish lineage wouldn't be too diferent than want to join the nazi party without pure arian lineage.

[Torque]

At least r0ach was somewhat funny mixing his hate speeches with defending PM's against Bitcoin while we were hugely profiting from it.

Wrt PM's, there is only one thing you need to keep an eye on. 

http://didthesystemcollapse.com/

[sirazimuth]

It is. Knowledge defies faith, which is why god went poof in a cloud of logic.

Just skimmed that link and not gonna bother with it, except for this little tidbit: "Our model explains things such as why stars look fair and beautiful to our eyes when it serves no credible Darwinian purpose to do so."

Yes it does. Stars are not dangerous to us so there was never a reason to develop a negative reaction to them, and we like sparkly things. Probably because water is easier to find when it reflects light, water being required to survive. And of course we use them to navigate, probably since millions of years ago. Stars benefit our survival.

That seems trivial to me, which is why I will assume the rest is as well.

I am actually sympathetic to your position as I was a strong agnostic/atheist for most of my adult life. I ended up that way by reading the Old Testament and being turned off by the barbarism of those times. That combined with a very skeptical personality and exposure in my youth to a disproportionate number of inarticulate religious folks set me on a 20 year path of firm agnosticism. I viewed the religious as foolish holding quaint but outdated and untrue views.

It took me the better part of a quarter century before I gradually realized that the inarticulate bumpkins of my youth despite their lack of sophistication were more or less correct and it was I with my smug intellectual superiority that had adopted the untenable position.

I reached the conclusion not due to any great spiritual event or conversation but the application of logic and consequence. Below is the logic that pulled me away from agnosticism. It is essentially an essay divided into 6 parts.

Since you have adopted the position you have I recommend reading it if for no other reason then to understand the logical basis of an opposing view.  

Health and Religion
Religion and Progress
The Nature of Freedom
The Beginning of Wisdom
Faith and Future
The More Rational Model

The More Rational Model....

our model explains...
bla bla bla....

 what a load of utter bollocks

[xhomerx10]

[CoinCube]

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Haha ok I will take that as I sign that patience with my off topic conversation is running low.

No more off topic posts from me.

[Considered]

So, charts and that ... Anyone worried about this low volume?

Are you worried with the HODL Kult?

30% haircut. Wait for it.

Nice. I'm going to buy more. This week?

I like to see that drop to accumulate more.