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May 04, 2018, 05:40:46 PM

A hardware wallet is a total waste of money in my opinion. Especially if you are a hodler.

I disagree. It's awesome and easy peasy to send small amounts of btc from my Trezor to my phone wallet to spend from there. Or just spend directly from the Trezor. All safe and secure.
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May 04, 2018, 05:43:27 PM

A hardware wallet is a total waste of money in my opinion. Especially if you are a hodler.

And if you are a spender? Why not just use a cellphone?

You create your seed/priv key, you make some modifications on it so only you can unlock the balance, write down them on a paper, make multiple copies; or just memorize the damn thing.

Want to spend/use btc actively? Just install a ios/android wallet like greenwallet...

Anyway I know slush is making big money on those that's why they are being highly advertised.  I would just buy more bitcoins for that $100 and put them on a paper wallet for free..
You don't have a lot of money. For those who do, HW wallets are not optional.
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May 04, 2018, 05:44:42 PM

A hardware wallet is a total waste of money in my opinion. Especially if you are a hodler.

I disagree. It's awesome and easy peasy to send small amounts of btc from my Trezor to my phone wallet to spend from there. Or just spend directly from the Trezor. All safe and secure.

Hodlers don't spend. There are only one kind of transactions in a hodlers wallet. It's always incoming. (Unless he moves his stash to a new address)

A cellphone is enough for anybody while you can just have another address for your daily uses on it.
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May 04, 2018, 05:46:18 PM

A hardware wallet is a total waste of money in my opinion. Especially if you are a hodler.

And if you are a spender? Why not just use a cellphone?

You create your seed/priv key, you make some modifications on it so only you can unlock the balance, write down them on a paper, make multiple copies; or just memorize the damn thing.

Want to spend/use btc actively? Just install a ios/android wallet like greenwallet...

Anyway I know slush is making big money on those that's why they are being highly advertised.  I would just buy more bitcoins for that $100 and put them on a paper wallet for free..
You don't have a lot of money. For those who do, HW wallets are not optional.

I don't remember I revealed my btc address. How do you know? How much is a too much money anyway?

My wallet balance is also very unrelated to the subject.
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May 04, 2018, 05:48:07 PM

A hardware wallet is a total waste of money in my opinion. Especially if you are a hodler.

And if you are a spender? Why not just use a cellphone?

You create your seed/priv key, you make some modifications on it so only you can unlock the balance, write down them on a paper, make multiple copies; or just memorize the damn thing.

Want to spend/use btc actively? Just install a ios/android wallet like greenwallet...

Anyway I know slush is making big money on those that's why they are being highly advertised.  I would just buy more bitcoins for that $100 and put them on a paper wallet for free..
You don't have a lot of money. For those who do, HW wallets are not optional.

I don't remember I revealed my btc address. How do you know? How much is a too much money anyway?
Prove it then. Show the world how wrong I am. I tremble in anticipation.
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May 04, 2018, 05:53:11 PM
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I have a couple of Ledger Nano S, but don't fully utilize them. By default, it looks like Chrome extensions are the preferred interface, I don't trust that. Electrum on Linux supports it, I trust that more. I keep multiple paper wallets, one per year. If I get to the point of cashing out much, it's helpful to be able to have a hard date on the blockchain of when I owned it. I'm not sure how to incorporate that into Ledger. I know about the optional hidden space.

Opendime hardware looks cool, but it's more of a one-shot thing. Good for basic transfers off-chain. You can't easily back it up, and it may not accept going through the washing machine well.

Ledger have said they will be releasing a standalone application soon to for people who don't want to use the chrome extension:

https://www.ledger.fr/2018/02/23/announcing-new-ledger-wallet-desktop-mobile-applications/

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We’ll soon be announcing availability of the Ledger Wallet application. We’ll first release the desktop version during Q2 2018 and then focus on the mobile version Q3 2018. The new version of the Ledger Manager is also expected for Q2 2018. Stay tuned!
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May 04, 2018, 06:27:46 PM

A hardware wallet is a total waste of money in my opinion. Especially if you are a hodler.

And if you are a spender? Why not just use a cellphone?

You create your seed/priv key, you make some modifications on it so only you can unlock the balance, write down them on a paper, make multiple copies; or just memorize the damn thing.

Want to spend/use btc actively? Just install a ios/android wallet like greenwallet...

Anyway I know slush is making big money on those that's why they are being highly advertised.  I would just buy more bitcoins for that $100 and put them on a paper wallet for free..
You don't have a lot of money. For those who do, HW wallets are not optional.

I don't remember I revealed my btc address. How do you know? How much is a too much money anyway?
Prove it then. Show the world how wrong I am. I tremble in anticipation.

I wish we could have this e-peen competition without, you know, the risk of negative consequences. It would be so much fun.
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May 04, 2018, 06:33:49 PM

A hardware wallet is a total waste of money in my opinion. Especially if you are a hodler.

And if you are a spender? Why not just use a cellphone?

You create your seed/priv key, you make some modifications on it so only you can unlock the balance, write down them on a paper, make multiple copies; or just memorize the damn thing.

Want to spend/use btc actively? Just install a ios/android wallet like greenwallet...

Anyway I know slush is making big money on those that's why they are being highly advertised.  I would just buy more bitcoins for that $100 and put them on a paper wallet for free..
You don't have a lot of money. For those who do, HW wallets are not optional.

I don't remember I revealed my btc address. How do you know? How much is a too much money anyway?
Prove it then. Show the world how wrong I am. I tremble in anticipation.

I wish we could have this e-peen competition without, you know, the risk of negative consequences. It would be so much fun.
Completely off the record and with no proof, what are your holdings? Just as a ballpark figure.
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May 04, 2018, 06:35:52 PM

Completely off the record and with no proof, what are your holdings? Just as a ballpark figure.

I don't see the relevance.

Are you saying that a hardware wallet is safer than a paper wallet? Is this what you are saying?
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May 04, 2018, 06:41:40 PM
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people believe in terraforming but climate change is a myth?

 For the sake of science, I terraformed an orange once.




Molded it just to your liking I see!
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May 04, 2018, 06:41:55 PM

Cool news

https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/vaultoros-bitcoin-gold-exchange-implements-lightning-network-payments/
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May 04, 2018, 06:43:46 PM


dont forget that the moon is hollow and bcash is the real bitcoin

I'm gonna be sooo pissed if its not really cheese...



The moon, I mean.  We all know bcash is hollow  Grin
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May 04, 2018, 06:56:23 PM

I have a couple of Ledger Nano S, but don't fully utilize them. By default, it looks like Chrome extensions are the preferred interface, I don't trust that. Electrum on Linux supports it, I trust that more. I keep multiple paper wallets, one per year. If I get to the point of cashing out much, it's helpful to be able to have a hard date on the blockchain of when I owned it. I'm not sure how to incorporate that into Ledger. I know about the optional hidden space.

Opendime hardware looks cool, but it's more of a one-shot thing. Good for basic transfers off-chain. You can't easily back it up, and it may not accept going through the washing machine well.

Chrome extensions are dead dying.  Ledger is working on their own interface now.
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May 04, 2018, 06:59:53 PM

Completely off the record and with no proof, what are your holdings? Just as a ballpark figure.

I don't see the relevance.

Are you saying that a hardware wallet is safer than a paper wallet? Is this what you are saying?

Hardware wallets may in fact be more secure than a paper wallet on several ways (not all).
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May 04, 2018, 07:00:29 PM

A hardware wallet is a total waste of money in my opinion. Especially if you are a hodler.

And if you are a spender? Why not just use a cellphone?

You create your seed/priv key, you make some modifications on it so only you can unlock the balance, write down them on a paper, make multiple copies; or just memorize the damn thing.

Want to spend/use btc actively? Just install a ios/android wallet like greenwallet...

Anyway I know slush is making big money on those that's why they are being highly advertised.  I would just buy more bitcoins for that $100 and put them on a paper wallet for free..
You don't have a lot of money. For those who do, HW wallets are not optional.

I don't remember I revealed my btc address. How do you know? How much is a too much money anyway?
Prove it then. Show the world how wrong I am. I tremble in anticipation.

I wish we could have this e-peen competition without, you know, the risk of negative consequences. It would be so much fun.
Completely off the record and with no proof, what are your holdings? Just as a ballpark figure.

Haha I better not.
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May 04, 2018, 07:21:00 PM

"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.
Anyone in a fighting mood?
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/04/upshot/should-the-fed-create-fedcoin-to-rival-bitcoin-a-former-top-official-says-maybe.html
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people believe in terraforming but climate change is a myth?

 For the sake of science, I terraformed an orange once.




Molded it just to your liking I see!

 lol
That's a good one.  I could see Groucho Marx saying that!
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May 04, 2018, 08:02:48 PM

A hardware wallet is a total waste of money in my opinion. Especially if you are a hodler.

And if you are a spender? Why not just use a cellphone?

You create your seed/priv key, you make some modifications on it so only you can unlock the balance, write down them on a paper, make multiple copies; or just memorize the damn thing.

Want to spend/use btc actively? Just install a ios/android wallet like greenwallet...

Anyway I know slush is making big money on those that's why they are being highly advertised.  I would just buy more bitcoins for that $100 and put them on a paper wallet for free..
You don't have a lot of money. For those who do, HW wallets are not optional.

I don't remember I revealed my btc address. How do you know? How much is a too much money anyway?
Prove it then. Show the world how wrong I am. I tremble in anticipation.

I wish we could have this e-peen competition without, you know, the risk of negative consequences. It would be so much fun.
Completely off the record and with no proof, what are your holdings? Just as a ballpark figure.

You go first.
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