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Question: Closing BTC Price June 17:
$0 - 2 (1.8%)
<$6,500 - 7 (6.1%)
$6,500-$6,750 - 1 (0.9%)
$6,751-$7,000 - 2 (1.8%)
$7,001-$7,250 - 3 (2.6%)
$7,251-$7,500 - 6 (5.3%)
$7,501-$7,750 - 4 (3.5%)
$7,751-$8,000 - 12 (10.5%)
$8,001-$8,250 - 13 (11.4%)
$8,251-$8,500 - 6 (5.3%)
$8,501-$8,750 - 6 (5.3%)
$8,751-$9,000 - 11 (9.6%)
$9,001,$9,250 - 10 (8.8%)
$9,251-$9,500 - 9 (7.9%)
>$9,500 - 15 (13.2%)
$20,000 - 7 (6.1%)
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April 24, 2018, 09:13:37 AM

Looks like Bcash lol crew is in a full on panic.  The pump must be costing them a fortune.
Every time a block is mined, a certain amount of BTC (called the subsidy) is created out of thin air and given to the miner. The subsidy halves every four years and will reach 0 in about 130 years.
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April 24, 2018, 09:42:44 AM

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Didn't you know this is the Wall Observer Maximalist thread.

I know exactly what you mean but risk being shouted at to say that here  Cool

On the date of the bitcoin cash fork. Bitcoin core forked too didn't they? That was when segwit was activated. The original bitcoin in reality is an etheric and ambigous thing which probably no longer exists. The real shit slinging match is over the brand.

nonsense.

You are suggesting that there is some kind of equality in forks.  There is only one bitcoin, and that thing called bcash was a renegade fork that ends up serving as an ongoing and persistent attack vector on bitcoin - the real one.  

Get the fuck out of here trying to assert that bcash is bitcoin or that bcash is the real bitcoin or anything close to that, even though bcash happens to copy bitcoin from both branching off and its continued lack of innovations, so they are engaged in ongoing stealing from bitcoin.

Regarding bitcoin forking at around the same time as the renegade bcash hardfork , you got your history wrong.  If you recall there was a process for obtaining consensus in bitcoin and the process was followed, which caused locking in of the segwit consensus and thereafter there was another period before the actual new consensus code was activated... a soft fork and voluntary and backward compatible, too.


If you also recall bcash was a hardfork that went into effect on a kind of emergency basis and was driven by a small group of folks who were disgruntled about the segwit2x newyork agreement not going the way that they had hoped.. which if you recall the segwit2x and ny agreement was also a kind of scam and an attack attempt on bitcoin both in terms of attempting to change the blocksize limit but also attempting to change bitcoin's governance.. which failed.
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April 24, 2018, 09:50:15 AM

Sorry if I came across a bit rude.
Np mate. It's all good.


Roger went full retarded.
Agreed...


I dont mind alt-coins but this is pure fraud.
As much as I wish it weren't the case, as much as I wish I could say "my bitcoin is the bitcoin and that is a fact" the question of which bitcoin is "the real bitcoin" will, unfortunately, always be a matter of opinion not fact.


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I'm less enthused about sailboats than I was. Getting a new motor boat in the water this year, way faster and more convenient to get around, and they tend to have better indoor space. This one certainly does.
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April 24, 2018, 10:05:27 AM
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I guarantee these Bcash lol trolls were shorting Bitcoin thinking $9k was the top because of the Bcash lol pump. And now the pump is slipping at 0.16 and these trolls are getting REKT.



I would panic too if I was about to lose $10 million.  
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April 24, 2018, 10:27:46 AM

Former CFTC head says ETH and XRP may be securities as a single organization is behind them.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-04-23/ether-ripple-may-be-securities-former-cftc-head-gensler-says

By that logic, Bcash lol is also a security as it is driven by Bitmain.
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April 24, 2018, 10:30:30 AM

[[edited out]

Didn't you know this is the Wall Observer Maximalist thread.

I know exactly what you mean but risk being shouted at to say that here  Cool

On the date of the bitcoin cash fork. Bitcoin core forked too didn't they? That was when segwit was activated. The original bitcoin in reality is an etheric and ambigous thing which probably no longer exists. The real shit slinging match is over the brand.

nonsense.

You are suggesting that there is some kind of equality in forks.  There is only one bitcoin, and that thing called bcash was a renegade fork that ends up serving as an ongoing and persistent attack vector on bitcoin - the real one.  

Get the fuck out of here trying to assert that bcash is bitcoin or that bcash is the real bitcoin or anything close to that, even though bcash happens to copy bitcoin from both branching off and its continued lack of innovations, so they are engaged in ongoing stealing from bitcoin.

Regarding bitcoin forking at around the same time as the renegade bcash hardfork , you got your history wrong.  If you recall there was a process for obtaining consensus in bitcoin and the process was followed, which caused locking in of the segwit consensus and thereafter there was another period before the actual new consensus code was activated... a soft fork and voluntary and backward compatible, too.


If you also recall bcash was a hardfork that went into effect on a kind of emergency basis and was driven by a small group of folks who were disgruntled about the segwit2x newyork agreement not going the way that they had hoped.. which if you recall the segwit2x and ny agreement was also a kind of scam and an attack attempt on bitcoin both in terms of attempting to change the blocksize limit but also attempting to change bitcoin's governance.. which failed.

Hey JJG, I trust your recollections better than my own of the events of that fork. I'm not suggesting equality of the forks, my point was on a more philosophical level. What is bitcoin anyway? If it is how the protocol was originally conceived then it doesn't exist anymore as I see it.

One might argue that core had deviated more from the initial protocol than bcash did so is less close to the original bitcoin. I mean stripping witness data from blocks is a massive change no matter how you colour it. However I accept that the community as a whole has backed cores direction and bestowed the brand on that.

I shouldn't be lumped in with bcash anyway. Yes I do have some in my portfolio along with selected other alts and of course bitcoin itself but if I had to choose the best digital cash, it isn't bcash  Tongue Wink
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April 24, 2018, 10:30:34 AM
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Bcash is a fork. Bgold is a fork. These are forks of Bitcoin.
This is the least complicated thing ever. Roll Eyes

Let me be clear guys. I share your opinion. It is my opinion as well that bitcoin core is the real bitcoin. All I am arguing is that that is my opinion and not a fact that is in some way objectively valid.

In what fundamental sense is bcash different from bitcoin core that makes it the fork and not bitcoin core the fork of it? Bitcoin core has changed the consensus algorithm too just like bcash. We used to not have segwit enabled and bcash used to not have massive blocks. One isn't "the fork" they are each forks of the other.

The "real Bitcoin" is the one that the majority of end users agree on through belief and mutual consensus of Bitcoin's fundamental attributes and philosophical values.

That's it. Period. The majority of end users decides. It literally is a popularity contest.

It has nothing to do with what Ver thinks, what miners think, what brokers/exchanges think, what developers think, what features, which has the biggest block size or fastest transactions, which was "first", which one "closest to Satoshi's original vision", which is objectively "better", or better for humanity, better for the planet/ecosystem, or any of that other garbage.
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April 24, 2018, 10:34:08 AM

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April 24, 2018, 10:34:39 AM

Let's see how Karpeles does it, this time...   Roll Eyes


https://www.cnet.com/news/mt-gox-bitcoin-exchange-former-ceo-karpeles-lands-new-job/


At least he seems to have overcome his Frappacino addiction..
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April 24, 2018, 10:41:39 AM

Me when I woke up today and saw it was over 9000!!!

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April 24, 2018, 10:44:02 AM

I bought the pump.

I think I may be done trading Bitcoin until late 2018.  


I really doubt that.   Tongue Tongue

I mean, I believe that you bought the pump, but there hardly seems to be any scenario in which a trade would not be advisable until late 2018 - unless you believer that bitcoin is going to merely go UP in some gradual progression between now and the end of 2018 - which seems like less than 5% odds.

One thing that is nearly certainly guaranteed in bitcoin, is that we don't know what the fuck is going to happen, which is almost the same as saying volatility is going to happen, which means trading to protect ur selfie.   Wink Wink

1.  I think we have bottomed for 2018.  

2.  I think Bitcoin will stay $8k or higher for the rest of the year.

3.  I think we will make a new ATH this year.  

4.  As you know I like to buy on the way up and sell on the way down.  But I try to restrict it to macro moves.  The next macro move I would be prepared to sell on the way down would be November / December 2018.

5.  I think the crypto winter has been dispelled but I will watch very carefully in June for confirmation.  

6. I am all in from my trading reserves as of $9200.  That was my last buy.  I have other money elsewhere for other purposes but that is irrelevant for Bitcoin.
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April 24, 2018, 10:48:48 AM

Bitcoin has risen 47% from it's low. Whoop de doo. How can you be happy about that, when, meanwhile, ETH and XRP are up 100%, dog is up 120%, and BeeCash is up 155%? What the hell? So infuriating.
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Bitcoin has risen 47% from it's low. Whoop de doo. How can you be happy about that, when, meanwhile, ETH and XRP are up 100%, dog is up 120%, and BeeCash is up 155%? What the hell? So infuriating.
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April 24, 2018, 10:58:26 AM

Bitcoin has risen 47% from it's low. Whoop de doo. How can you be happy about that, when, meanwhile, ETH and XRP are up 100%, dog is up 120%, and BeeCash is up 155%? What the hell? So infuriating.

It remembers so much to what happened past year around this month, doesn't it?

Let's see if everything goes the same as it did afterwards.
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Bitcoin has risen 47% from it's low. Whoop de doo. How can you be happy about that, when, meanwhile, ETH and XRP are up 100%, dog is up 120%, and BeeCash is up 155%? What the hell? So infuriating.

It is enough to know they are all shitcoins and all will return to zero, with the possible exception of ETH.
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Bitcoin has risen 47% from it's low. Whoop de doo. How can you be happy about that, when, meanwhile, ETH and XRP are up 100%, dog is up 120%, and BeeCash is up 155%? What the hell? So infuriating.

It is enough to know they are all shitcoins and all will return to zero, with the possible exception of ETH.

Bitcoin has now become the "safe haven" asset of the crypto world.  Cheesy
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Bitcoin has risen 47% from it's low. Whoop de doo. How can you be happy about that, when, meanwhile, ETH and XRP are up 100%, dog is up 120%, and BeeCash is up 155%? What the hell? So infuriating.

It is enough to know they are all shitcoins and all will return to zero, with the possible exception of ETH.

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