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Question: Closing BTC Price June 28:
$0 - 5 (3%)
<$7,000 - 4 (2.4%)
$7,000-$7,499 - 0 (0%)
$7,500-$7,999 - 0 (0%)
$8,000-$8,499 - 1 (0.6%)
$8,500-$8,999 - 3 (1.8%)
$9,000-$9,499 - 4 (2.4%)
$9,500-$9,999 - 27 (16.4%)
$10,000-$10,499 - 24 (14.5%)
$10,500-10,999 - 12 (7.3%)
$11,000-$11,499 - 14 (8.5%)
$11,500-$12,000 - 15 (9.1%)
>$12,000 - 43 (26.1%)
>$20,000 - 13 (7.9%)
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May 10, 2018, 06:39:35 PM

So it was rat poison after all... too bad we didn't take the old men sayings seriously.

If only it was just rat poison. In fact it is... rat poison squared!


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May 10, 2018, 06:41:47 PM


Again I never even mentioned Dash let alone try to persuade anyone of its merits  Grin

Dash was all you.

Goodness me.


Correct.  As I said, you attacked Monero - unnecessarily and wrongly.  So I called you out on Dash, rightly. 

It's your mess, old chap - you didn't need to keep digging.
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Again I never even mentioned Dash let alone try to persuade anyone of its merits  Grin

Dash was all you.

Goodness me.


Correct.  As I said, you attacked Monero - unnecessarily and wrongly.  So I called you out on Dash, rightly.  

It's your mess, old chap - you didn't need to keep digging.


Yes I did attack Monero  Grin

Are you canadian by any chance? You strike me as a canadian type
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May 10, 2018, 06:47:21 PM

I am finding this Monero vs Dash argument somewhat amusing

When does the hair grabbings start? Smiley
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May 10, 2018, 06:48:13 PM

I am finding this Monero vs Dash argument somewhat amusing

When does the hair grabbings start? Smiley


I know ! haha very soon I think
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Last edit: May 10, 2018, 07:24:59 PM by bitserve

I wonder how traditional investments forums may be.... Something like this:

Trader1: Apple has topped, prepare for a crash. Buy Microsoft instead.

Trader2: Shut up shill, we all know you sodl APPL when it was $15 and are still waiting to buy. You lost the train.

Trader3: Fuck Microsoft. Everybody knows that Gates and Ballmer hodled most the stocks from the IPO.

Trader1: Fuck your mother if you want to fuck. APPL is a one-man's project... and that man is dead!!

Trader?: Stocks are useless. The only real money is Silver and Gold. The Jews want you to buy stocks because they control the market.

Trader2: [Insert APPL rocket to the moon here]

... and goes on and on ....
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Again I never even mentioned Dash let alone try to persuade anyone of its merits  Grin

Dash was all you.

Goodness me.


Correct.  As I said, you attacked Monero - unnecessarily and wrongly.  So I called you out on Dash, rightly.  

It's your mess, old chap - you didn't need to keep digging.


Yes I did attack Monero  Grin

Are you canadian by any chance? You strike me as a canadian type

Well how astute a judge you are!




Just as astute as you are at judging cryptocurrencies, it seems!
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May 10, 2018, 07:20:42 PM

I feel like if we don't break 9400 in the next 12 hours it'll be time to sell...  Lips sealed

That bull flag is looking good though. I don't think anything is gonna stop it. It should break in less than 12 hours or it'll be too late to sell  Cheesy.

Hey guys... seriously...

is this a bull flag or a rising wedge?
We just broke down on a ascending wedge and currently I ain't seeing the bull flag you were saying as we currently are 2 candles out on the hourly chart after the drop which isn't enough to see a formation forming as we just have drop from from 9,300 to 9,100$. Seeing that last point of trying to reach above 9,400$ failed as well as a bearish wedge there is no doubt that Bitcoin will fall. I just hope that Bitcoin will pick up momentum at this point before going above 9,400$ again.
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May 10, 2018, 07:22:45 PM

I think a small (re)pump is materialising now. On a small timescale, exactly the way Bitcoin tends to creep higher and higher once market participants no longer dare to dump.
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Again I never even mentioned Dash let alone try to persuade anyone of its merits  Grin

Dash was all you.

Goodness me.


Correct.  As I said, you attacked Monero - unnecessarily and wrongly.  So I called you out on Dash, rightly.  

It's your mess, old chap - you didn't need to keep digging.


Yes I did attack Monero  Grin

Are you canadian by any chance? You strike me as a canadian type

Well how astute a judge you are!




Just as astute as you are at judging cryptocurrencies, it seems!

Ah well, that explains it   Cheesy
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May 10, 2018, 07:25:48 PM

If this is not bullish, I don't know what is:

Some of the biggest names on Wall Street are warming up to bitcoin, a virtual currency that for nearly a decade has been consigned to the unregulated fringes of the financial world.
The parent company of the New York Stock Exchange has been working on an online trading platform that would allow large investors to buy and hold bitcoin, according to emails and documents viewed by The New York Times and four people briefed on the effort who asked to remain anonymous because the plans were  still confidential.
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Goldman will initially only be trading futures contracts linked to bitcoin’s price. But Goldman executives said they were looking at moving in the direction of buying and selling actual bitcoins.
The Intercontinental Exchange’s effort, if it pans out, could make bitcoin available to a much wider and more influential customer base, including other financial firms.
...

Read the whole NYT article at:

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/markets/stocks/news/coming-soon-bitcoin-trades-on-wall-street/articleshow/64076979.cms


I am bullish and all for Wall Street warming up to bitcoin and getting in the game, but what are your thoughts on them manipulating the markets through the futures short and the regular trading for keeping bitcoin in a desired band yoyoing for months and years defeating the purpose of HODL for the regular folks?

Genuine question, this is my worry for the near future
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Again I never even mentioned Dash let alone try to persuade anyone of its merits  Grin

Dash was all you.

Goodness me.


Correct.  As I said, you attacked Monero - unnecessarily and wrongly.  So I called you out on Dash, rightly.  

It's your mess, old chap - you didn't need to keep digging.


Yes I did attack Monero  Grin

Are you canadian by any chance? You strike me as a canadian type

Well how astute a judge you are!




Just as astute as you are at judging cryptocurrencies, it seems!

Ah well, that explains it   Cheesy

Read the small print?  You're a fair way off.  But excellent value.
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May 10, 2018, 07:40:24 PM

 Shocked Shocked

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May 10, 2018, 07:55:20 PM

If this is not bullish, I don't know what is:

Some of the biggest names on Wall Street are warming up to bitcoin, a virtual currency that for nearly a decade has been consigned to the unregulated fringes of the financial world.
The parent company of the New York Stock Exchange has been working on an online trading platform that would allow large investors to buy and hold bitcoin, according to emails and documents viewed by The New York Times and four people briefed on the effort who asked to remain anonymous because the plans were  still confidential.
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Goldman will initially only be trading futures contracts linked to bitcoin’s price. But Goldman executives said they were looking at moving in the direction of buying and selling actual bitcoins.
The Intercontinental Exchange’s effort, if it pans out, could make bitcoin available to a much wider and more influential customer base, including other financial firms.
...

Read the whole NYT article at:

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/markets/stocks/news/coming-soon-bitcoin-trades-on-wall-street/articleshow/64076979.cms


I am bullish and all for Wall Street warming up to bitcoin and getting in the game, but what are your thoughts on them manipulating the markets through the futures short and the regular trading for keeping bitcoin in a desired band yoyoing for months and years defeating the purpose of HODL for the regular folks?

Genuine question, this is my worry for the near future


What is your timeline?  If your timeline is long term, such as more than 5 years, then any attempts at manipulation are probably not going to matter in such a way to negatively affect you, unless you really believe that BIG money can be successful in manipulating in such a way to keep bitcoin in a trading band, and actually trickle the price down for years and years.  Sure, they can be effective for short term and even for a couple of years to keep the price down, and one of the problem these days is that people who invest are expecting 5x to 10x returns in a short period of time, and the reality of the matter is if you are getting better than 10% annual returns over the long term, your investment is doing very well.....   even though it may take a few years to average out above that 10% annual rate.

It is quite possible that bitcoin is going to perform well into the future, but of course, there are not any guarantees... furthermore, there is a hard supply issue coming up in bitcoin in less than 2 years, which is the next halvening from the mining of 12.5BTC per block to 6.25BTC per block.  In the past, it seems that manipulators attempted to manipulate the price down during the past halvenings in 2012 and 2016.. and surely that hard supply issue kicks in several months later, and the reality of less supply is difficult to manipulate down when there continues to be upwards price pressures, including developments and adoption that forces the price up and sometimes causes upwards explosions that are beyond the manipulators abilities to hold the price down.

You can invest a lot into bitcoin and leverage somewhat, or you can merely take a more modest approach and just invest 1% to 10% of your quasi-liquid assets into bitcoin.  Even those folks who take a modest approach have been able to profit handsomely historically, and are likely going to profit handsomely into the future.  One of the problems of leveraging or putting a lot of money into bitcoin, is that such actions could cause you to become too emotional or not to be able to weather the realities of cashflow issues and you end up selling at times that are NOT good for you or you get scared into losing position.  I certainly remain an advocate of  the practical approach of ongoing and modest investment into bitcoin, even though it is quite possible that you could make a lot more profit by risking greater asset investment into bitcoin, but that just has not been my approach in the past, and surely my portfolio is doing quite well with what I consider to be a more modest and seeking towards longer term investment approach, which I believe will continue to work, in spite of various future likely attempts at ongoing downward bitcoin price manipulations.
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May 10, 2018, 07:56:16 PM

GOD DAMN BEARS
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GOD DAMN BEARS


You damn right!!!!!
Fuckerssss

Again down the road!!!!!

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Interesting to see these predictions for a rally post Consensus. I was going to sell a little bit to pay for Champions League Final tickets but I think I might use fiat for the tickets & flights. I don’t want to end up selling 0.5 bitcoin & miss a big pump.

mmmm champions league final can't wait as well
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May 10, 2018, 08:33:06 PM

wtf is going on now?  Huh
some 2k dumped on finex within 5 mins and its going on
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May 10, 2018, 08:39:00 PM

Help me with your thoughts on bitcoin futures.

In February I started to think if they are bad for bitcoin (because bitcoin remain bearish since introduction of futures).
Now i think they are bad, but probably not on extremely long turn. On extremely long term they are probably good (in years 2019, 2020)

But on short term (this year) i think bitcoin futures are bad. Why bad?
Because all the sudden people with a lot more money then those in crpyto can draw and earn money with hedging and drawing money from "little people with less experience". They wont take money from true hodlers who just hold, but bitcoin need new people in order to go up and up and crazy up, and experienced hedging companies could for quite some time draw price down and they have more knowledge whats and how much is needed to cause spikes down with help of futures.

Can someone help me dig out how much money is now in futures?
http://www.cmegroup.com/trading/equity-index/us-index/bitcoin_quotes_globex.html
For may its i think 3000 contacts? now i wonder how much money is in that

If 1 contract 100 bitcoins? 900k USD? and there was  i think today 3000 buy/sell (or with other words 3000 combined going long + going short)
So 3000 times 900k usd = 2,7 billion USD in one day

Am i gettting this right ? i think not
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May 10, 2018, 08:44:50 PM

If this is not bullish, I don't know what is:

Some of the biggest names on Wall Street are warming up to bitcoin, a virtual currency that for nearly a decade has been consigned to the unregulated fringes of the financial world.
The parent company of the New York Stock Exchange has been working on an online trading platform that would allow large investors to buy and hold bitcoin, according to emails and documents viewed by The New York Times and four people briefed on the effort who asked to remain anonymous because the plans were  still confidential.
....
Goldman will initially only be trading futures contracts linked to bitcoin’s price. But Goldman executives said they were looking at moving in the direction of buying and selling actual bitcoins.
The Intercontinental Exchange’s effort, if it pans out, could make bitcoin available to a much wider and more influential customer base, including other financial firms.
...

Read the whole NYT article at:

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/markets/stocks/news/coming-soon-bitcoin-trades-on-wall-street/articleshow/64076979.cms


I am bullish and all for Wall Street warming up to bitcoin and getting in the game, but what are your thoughts on them manipulating the markets through the futures short and the regular trading for keeping bitcoin in a desired band yoyoing for months and years defeating the purpose of HODL for the regular folks?

Genuine question, this is my worry for the near future

Right now there aren't any viable fiat on-ramps for institutional investors, but that seems to be changing.

Also, I think they will want to dip their toes in the water by going long, at first.

Later down the line, there will be some yoyoing, and massive shorts. Ultimately though, Bitcoin is an idea who's time has come, and there's no way to stop it
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