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Italy panic over, normal selling will resume shortly.
If this is true though, it will show us something very interesting. I have been trying to figure out lately whether the market is viewing bitcoin as another tech stock or a flight to liquidity style asset. It would appear that it's both. It seems that bitcoin likes either extreme and dislikes a status quo future. I have come to a very similar conclusion. Bitcoin is this weird animal that is both a highly speculative asset and a safe haven. I would add that I don't think a status quo is that bad(absent shitty fundamental news), more years of surviving means more trust. Also, the tech gets developed further and the network and industry can grow. |
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JayJuanGee
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I thought that someone had posted in this thread the below one hour Edward Snowden interview link earlier (like less than a week ago), but I cannot find the post. The interview is from March 25, I believe? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Iisu0snIL0&feature=youtu.be&t=3076It appears to me that Snowden is being interviewed as some kind of bitcoin conference, yet Snowden does not really seem to know a lot about bitcoin or cryptos. Sure, Snowden is a bright guy, and he really seems to frame a lot of his world focus and views based on privacy and based on issues with the government, but it surely seems to me that he has not really consciously identified or prioritized the revolutionary nature of bitcoin. By the way, he mentioned that he is a fan of zcash and monero, and he likes those coins for their privacy features - but he does not seem to appreciate the potential future contributions of the lightning network to evolve similar and possibly more powerful features due to the likely future greater bitcoin liquidity. |
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jbreher
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May 29, 2018, 10:20:33 PM |
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I dont think r0ach is rich bitcoiner.
I know about him not having any bitcoin. But they respond to him a lot of times then they switch to jews then other topics that arent related to bitcoin in general. I don't know what it says about us that r0ach seems to be so successful at his assigned task. |
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JayJuanGee
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May 29, 2018, 10:28:46 PM |
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https://usethebitcoin.com/the-6th-pattern-on-bitcoins-price-coincidence-or-market-manipulation/At the moment there are several traders and investors that give their insights on the cryptocurrency market and how it can evolve in the next days, months or even years.
But different enthusiasts and professionals discovered a very interesting pattern in the charts, what is it all about?
The ‘6th Pattern’ in Bitcoin’s Price
According to this theory, the 6th day of each month Bitcoin will reach a top or a bottom in its price. The 6th of January Bitcoin reached one of the highest tops it has ever had
when it was traded around $17,000 dollars. After this day, BTC’s price suffered a reversal that took it just under $6,000 dollars.
The interesting fact, is that when it touched the lowest point, it was on February the 6th, just one month after it reached its highest price before starting a bear movement.
But the pattern repeats itself in the next months. Once Bitcoin was traded at its lowest point this year (February the 6th), it started to recover part of the value lost, and topped
around $12,000 dollars on March the 6th.
And the theory keeps in the next months, April and May. In March the 6th, Bitcoin’s upward trend changed direction and touched new lows the 6th of the next month (April) near $6,400 dollars.
We were able to experience the last bull trend between April 6 and exactly one month later when Bitcoin tried to break above $10,000 dollars.
Now we are approaching the next (possible bottom?) 6th in June when Bitcoin can reach a bottom, again. If the pattern does not break here, we could see a recovery that may take Bitcoin price near $8,750.
The ‘6th Pattern’ On Bitcoin’s Price - Coincidence or Market Manipulation? Patterns repeat until they don't, but I have been trying to decide when to buy and this is as good an excuse as any. 6th it is. Patterns repeat until everyone knows about them, then they don't, but they still get talked about, as if they still existed. hahahahaha |
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May 29, 2018, 10:31:13 PM |
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The biggest pump and dump in the history of the world. Kudos, Bitcoiners!
The dark side I sense in you ah hell, if that is the case it was a lot of fun....if it becomes 'Tulip City' so be it...I THINK I can squeak by till full retirement on my 3 year retire early gig...so I guess, anything beyond pulling that stunt off is gravy...(or my start on self-justification for not selling and in HODL mode...if it pans out to Tulips...a lousy 'go to hell' plan...but sheesh...most fun I've had these last 5 years since College...) a fun ride ..we will see if it ends in a glide....or a crash... You were here in 2013, this is nothing to worry about. Whale manipulation & mass accumulation stage. Don’t go anywhere until at least 2021. Maybe you have noticed a pattern, LFC? Searing seems to continuously talk as if he is getting scared out of his stash, but for some reason, he has continued to HODL on...... at least his online persona seems to have made that impression.  |
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May 29, 2018, 10:44:14 PM |
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The biggest pump and dump in the history of the world. Kudos, Bitcoiners!
The dark side I sense in you ah hell, if that is the case it was a lot of fun....if it becomes 'Tulip City' so be it...I THINK I can squeak by till full retirement on my 3 year retire early gig...so I guess, anything beyond pulling that stunt off is gravy...(or my start on self-justification for not selling and in HODL mode...if it pans out to Tulips...a lousy 'go to hell' plan...but sheesh...most fun I've had these last 5 years since College...) a fun ride ..we will see if it ends in a glide....or a crash... You were here in 2013, this is nothing to worry about. Whale manipulation & mass accumulation stage. Don’t go anywhere until at least 2021. Maybe you have noticed a pattern, LFC? Searing seems to continuously talk as if he is getting scared out of his stash, but for some reason, he has continued to HODL on...... at least his online persona seems to have made that impression. Well, Searing is close to (if not already) 65 years of age and on a fixed income now since he retired. I realize he has some money from a 401k but now his overall wealth is probably fluctuating tremendously due to Bitcoin and it seems to me that his Bitcoin stash is what made him comfortable in his retirement decision. I can understand his concern. |
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JayJuanGee
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May 29, 2018, 10:45:07 PM |
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No way it goes to $3,000. Too many people will pile in if it goes anywhere near low $5,000’s.
I mostly agree with you, but never say never.... (even though I just did)...  |
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May 29, 2018, 10:55:24 PM |
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No way it goes to $3,000. Too many people will pile in if it goes anywhere near low $5,000’s.
That's funny. There were supposedly too many people waiting to buy in $14,000 as well - like bill gates and da bag insitutions were waiting there to buy every coin at 14K. Yes good job TeraDebBera... Keep your consistent downer message...   No way it goes to $3,000. Too many people will pile in if it goes anywhere near low $5,000’s.
That's funny. There were supposedly too many people waiting to buy in $14,000 as well - like bill gates and da bag insitutions were waiting there to buy every coin at 14K. You most likely thought it was going to $0 in 2014 I actually drew charts showing that it would bottom around 300 and reach ATH in 2 years. Everyone thought it was super bearish and laughed me out of the forum. I ended up being wrong... it went lower than I expected, bottomed at 160 and reached ATH in 3 years. I was too bullish. Exactamente!!!!!! One of your MOSTEST redeeming intrinsic qualities has been to always be more right than you were.   |
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May 29, 2018, 11:56:17 PM |
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You buying some when you get back? or what would be your "sufficient of enough dip" price point to buy?
Just got back and no, I can't afford to take advantage of this lovely buying opportunity. I went down to do the paperwork (forking over a bunch of 500 peso bills and registering my constancias of ownership) on my second Mexican property, and ended up using up my fiat cash stash buying a third. I might actually have to (gasp!) sell a bit to make ends meet. It was an offer I couldn't refuse though, a full hectare with a well for $50kMXN ($2.5kUSD). Motivated vendor. Luckily, folks in those parts don't use banks. Cash rules. |
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The biggest pump and dump in the history of the world. Kudos, Bitcoiners!
The dark side I sense in you ah hell, if that is the case it was a lot of fun....if it becomes 'Tulip City' so be it...I THINK I can squeak by till full retirement on my 3 year retire early gig...so I guess, anything beyond pulling that stunt off is gravy...(or my start on self-justification for not selling and in HODL mode...if it pans out to Tulips...a lousy 'go to hell' plan...but sheesh...most fun I've had these last 5 years since College...) a fun ride ..we will see if it ends in a glide....or a crash... You were here in 2013, this is nothing to worry about. Whale manipulation & mass accumulation stage. Don’t go anywhere until at least 2021. Maybe you have noticed a pattern, LFC? Searing seems to continuously talk as if he is getting scared out of his stash, but for some reason, he has continued to HODL on...... at least his online persona seems to have made that impression. yes...befuddled I am indeed.....my fingers are getting tired hanging this ledge over the abyss, however... alas, in previous years 2013 to say Jan 2018 I was under the 'delusion' that I had an idea of wtf was going on... yep...that cat left the house I suppose someone can start a pool...when will Searing crack up and sell.....Ack! The biggest pump and dump in the history of the world. Kudos, Bitcoiners!
The dark side I sense in you ah hell, if that is the case it was a lot of fun....if it becomes 'Tulip City' so be it...I THINK I can squeak by till full retirement on my 3 year retire early gig...so I guess, anything beyond pulling that stunt off is gravy...(or my start on self-justification for not selling and in HODL mode...if it pans out to Tulips...a lousy 'go to hell' plan...but sheesh...most fun I've had these last 5 years since College...) a fun ride ..we will see if it ends in a glide....or a crash... You were here in 2013, this is nothing to worry about. Whale manipulation & mass accumulation stage. Don’t go anywhere until at least 2021. Maybe you have noticed a pattern, LFC? Searing seems to continuously talk as if he is getting scared out of his stash, but for some reason, he has continued to HODL on...... at least his online persona seems to have made that impression. Well, Searing is close to (if not already) 65 years of age and on a fixed income now since he retired. I realize he has some money from a 401k but now his overall wealth is probably fluctuating tremendously due to Bitcoin and it seems to me that his Bitcoin stash is what made him comfortable in his retirement decision. I can understand his concern. Yep, this pretty much sums up my cowardice....dump the BTC as a sure thing, keep the Alts ..if the Alts pump, I missed making more money because the BTC pumped...if the alts dump, well than obviously dumping the BTC was wise... but if bitcoin dumps then the alts will dump too...and I will be doubly underwater but yeah...essentially cowardice...on my part... |
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May 30, 2018, 12:26:05 AM |
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May 30, 2018, 12:41:39 AM |
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Had to send another wire transfer at my bank. Facepalm... 40 minutes at the counter, teller had to go call someone then tells me to go home and wait for her call. Already the following day and still having issues sending it. Fucking dinosaur tech. I'm so ready for BTC to file SWIFT into history.
I am struggling to understand why you need to to physically go to the bank in first place. What's the reason for not using online access for a wire transfer? MY bank (credit union) does not have an online access for international wire transfers. I can start an email request for it but then comes all the identity confirmation tasks and such. Best way is still to walk into the bank, wait in line, manually type in all the necessary information, codes, names, addresses, etc. then wait a bit longer while they sort out an unexpected problem. A day or 2 later the wire finally sends and I cross my fingers that its not rejected. Now wait 3-5 business days for it to land in the account. Like I said, Fucking Dinosaur! Forgot the last step, complain on forums. During my wait I mentioned bitcoin as being a much faster and easier transfer system to the clerk. She said, "Bitcoin? Is that really a thing?" |
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May 30, 2018, 12:54:00 AM |
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During my wait I mentioned bitcoin as being a much faster and easier transfer system to the clerk. She said, "Bitcoin? Is that really a thing?"
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May 30, 2018, 01:04:59 AM |
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With higher lows over the past 4 months, this entire correction since January is a bear trap on a longer time frame.
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JayJuanGee
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May 30, 2018, 01:23:09 AM |
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You buying some when you get back? or what would be your "sufficient of enough dip" price point to buy?
Just got back and no, I can't afford to take advantage of this lovely buying opportunity. I went down to do the paperwork (forking over a bunch of 500 peso bills and registering my constancias of ownership) on my second Mexican property, and ended up using up my fiat cash stash buying a third. I might actually have to (gasp!) sell a bit to make ends meet. It was an offer I couldn't refuse though, a full hectare with a well for $50kMXN ($2.5kUSD). Motivated vendor. Luckily, folks in those parts don't use banks. Cash rules. Well? Probably, it does not hurt to diversify a bit, and if you considered your property purchase to be decent, then your diversification in that direction could pay off. As far as "buying opportunity" in bitcoin, none of us can be sure about whether another "better" opportunity will come, but seems that over the past several years, you were able to acquire at least a decent sized stash in the below 4 digits price arena, and therefore, you don't really need to feel any kind of FOMO because of further price rises that might take place from here. On a related note, there are likely going to be a large number of folks who did not get into bitcoin earlier, and they recognize the exorbitant price growth to $19,666 - and they are "perceiving" bubble and "perceiving" have to correct to a "certain level" such as below $5k or below $3k, and if such price dip does not happen, then they do not feel comfortable getting in, and they miss out, again.  to repeat the pattern at some price point between $50k and $100k, perhaps? |
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May 30, 2018, 01:26:11 AM |
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We don't have a proper government in the UK, and the arrest and imprisonment of Tommy Robinson may become more significnt thn the Italian crisis. It's opening up a massive can of worms.
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JayJuanGee
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May 30, 2018, 01:38:04 AM |
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The biggest pump and dump in the history of the world. Kudos, Bitcoiners!
The dark side I sense in you ah hell, if that is the case it was a lot of fun....if it becomes 'Tulip City' so be it...I THINK I can squeak by till full retirement on my 3 year retire early gig...so I guess, anything beyond pulling that stunt off is gravy...(or my start on self-justification for not selling and in HODL mode...if it pans out to Tulips...a lousy 'go to hell' plan...but sheesh...most fun I've had these last 5 years since College...) a fun ride ..we will see if it ends in a glide....or a crash... You were here in 2013, this is nothing to worry about. Whale manipulation & mass accumulation stage. Don’t go anywhere until at least 2021. Maybe you have noticed a pattern, LFC? Searing seems to continuously talk as if he is getting scared out of his stash, but for some reason, he has continued to HODL on...... at least his online persona seems to have made that impression. yes...befuddled I am indeed.....my fingers are getting tired hanging this ledge over the abyss, however... alas, in previous years 2013 to say Jan 2018 I was under the 'delusion' that I had an idea of wtf was going on... yep...that cat left the house I suppose someone can start a pool...when will Searing crack up and sell.....Ack! The biggest pump and dump in the history of the world. Kudos, Bitcoiners!
The dark side I sense in you ah hell, if that is the case it was a lot of fun....if it becomes 'Tulip City' so be it...I THINK I can squeak by till full retirement on my 3 year retire early gig...so I guess, anything beyond pulling that stunt off is gravy...(or my start on self-justification for not selling and in HODL mode...if it pans out to Tulips...a lousy 'go to hell' plan...but sheesh...most fun I've had these last 5 years since College...) a fun ride ..we will see if it ends in a glide....or a crash... You were here in 2013, this is nothing to worry about. Whale manipulation & mass accumulation stage. Don’t go anywhere until at least 2021. Maybe you have noticed a pattern, LFC? Searing seems to continuously talk as if he is getting scared out of his stash, but for some reason, he has continued to HODL on...... at least his online persona seems to have made that impression. Well, Searing is close to (if not already) 65 years of age and on a fixed income now since he retired. I realize he has some money from a 401k but now his overall wealth is probably fluctuating tremendously due to Bitcoin and it seems to me that his Bitcoin stash is what made him comfortable in his retirement decision. I can understand his concern. Yep, this pretty much sums up my cowardice....dump the BTC as a sure thing, keep the Alts ..if the Alts pump, I missed making more money because the BTC pumped...if the alts dump, well than obviously dumping the BTC was wise... but if bitcoin dumps then the alts will dump too...and I will be doubly underwater but yeah...essentially cowardice...on my part... I admit that I feel a bit uncomfortable making fun at your expense, but I have to credit you with revealing the real dilemmas that exist, even when HODLing within a decent amount of profits (which seems to be your current situation). Regarding a possible poll of "when Searing will crack?," that could be a fun one, but again such a topic would be at your expense, so such a poll could be a bit uncomfortable - except for the fact that you are acknowledging your own seeming precipice. Regarding your outline of possibilities in front of you, I just conclude that you are so much embedded into a kind of gambling mentality and you are trying to play with all or nothing strategies, too much. Why can't you be a bit more moderate about your approach without worrying so much? Figure out a proportionality between various coins that make you comfortable, and then once you get that proportionality, then skim 10% or 20% off of the top and put into fiat (if that is a comfortable amount for you), so that you will feel more comfortable in the event that prices of whichever crypto goes down. Personally, I would say fuck you to a lot of the alts, but you are seeming a lot more sympathetic to them, so perhaps, your allocation is going to end up way more heavily allocated in the alt direction that I would chose (and perhaps several guys - and gal - in this thread). |
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Searing
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May 30, 2018, 01:58:46 AM |
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The biggest pump and dump in the history of the world. Kudos, Bitcoiners!
The dark side I sense in you ah hell, if that is the case it was a lot of fun....if it becomes 'Tulip City' so be it...I THINK I can squeak by till full retirement on my 3 year retire early gig...so I guess, anything beyond pulling that stunt off is gravy...(or my start on self-justification for not selling and in HODL mode...if it pans out to Tulips...a lousy 'go to hell' plan...but sheesh...most fun I've had these last 5 years since College...) a fun ride ..we will see if it ends in a glide....or a crash... You were here in 2013, this is nothing to worry about. Whale manipulation & mass accumulation stage. Don’t go anywhere until at least 2021. Maybe you have noticed a pattern, LFC? Searing seems to continuously talk as if he is getting scared out of his stash, but for some reason, he has continued to HODL on...... at least his online persona seems to have made that impression. yes...befuddled I am indeed.....my fingers are getting tired hanging this ledge over the abyss, however... alas, in previous years 2013 to say Jan 2018 I was under the 'delusion' that I had an idea of wtf was going on... yep...that cat left the house I suppose someone can start a pool...when will Searing crack up and sell.....Ack! The biggest pump and dump in the history of the world. Kudos, Bitcoiners!
The dark side I sense in you ah hell, if that is the case it was a lot of fun....if it becomes 'Tulip City' so be it...I THINK I can squeak by till full retirement on my 3 year retire early gig...so I guess, anything beyond pulling that stunt off is gravy...(or my start on self-justification for not selling and in HODL mode...if it pans out to Tulips...a lousy 'go to hell' plan...but sheesh...most fun I've had these last 5 years since College...) a fun ride ..we will see if it ends in a glide....or a crash... You were here in 2013, this is nothing to worry about. Whale manipulation & mass accumulation stage. Don’t go anywhere until at least 2021. Maybe you have noticed a pattern, LFC? Searing seems to continuously talk as if he is getting scared out of his stash, but for some reason, he has continued to HODL on...... at least his online persona seems to have made that impression. Well, Searing is close to (if not already) 65 years of age and on a fixed income now since he retired. I realize he has some money from a 401k but now his overall wealth is probably fluctuating tremendously due to Bitcoin and it seems to me that his Bitcoin stash is what made him comfortable in his retirement decision. I can understand his concern. Yep, this pretty much sums up my cowardice....dump the BTC as a sure thing, keep the Alts ..if the Alts pump, I missed making more money because the BTC pumped...if the alts dump, well than obviously dumping the BTC was wise... but if bitcoin dumps then the alts will dump too...and I will be doubly underwater but yeah...essentially cowardice...on my part... I admit that I feel a bit uncomfortable making fun at your expense, but I have to credit you with revealing the real dilemmas that exist, even when HODLing within a decent amount of profits (which seems to be your current situation). Regarding a possible poll of "when Searing will crack?," that could be a fun one, but again such a topic would be at your expense, so such a poll could be a bit uncomfortable - except for the fact that you are acknowledging your own seeming precipice. Regarding your outline of possibilities in front of you, I just conclude that you are so much embedded into a kind of gambling mentality and you are trying to play with all or nothing strategies, too much. Why can't you be a bit more moderate about your approach without worrying so much? Figure out a proportionality between various coins that make you comfortable, and then once you get that proportionality, then skim 10% or 20% off of the top and put into fiat (if that is a comfortable amount for you), so that you will feel more comfortable in the event that prices of whichever crypto goes down. Personally, I would say fuck you to a lot of the alts, but you are seeming a lot more sympathetic to them, so perhaps, your allocation is going to end up way more heavily allocated in the alt direction that I would chose (and perhaps several guys - and gal - in this thread). Well, the ALTs up till recently or I should say still ..should be the ONLY thing I need to sell bit by bit, to get to my 'unneeded and random' goal of reaching 66 years and full retirement, before 'touching' any of my 'traditional investments' or social security. I can get Medicare at 65 a year earlier without issue. Thus as a 'random' goal I can make the case of let it ride. The BTC Hoard....and no real issue with lifestyle. The problem is *until recently* I was under the deluded viewpoint that i have some 'very small' angle on what was going on with crypto and alts and mining....they now are all in flux and I am befuddled. My big miner days will likely be wrapped up by July 4th, 2018 say as an appropriate end date. The price of BTC and ALTS have 'halved' I think or more since 1/14/18 when I retired on the above 'iffy plan'. On the other hand, I'm 63 years old, if I'm not gonna say 'to hell with it now' and take a chance...when? So I flutter between outcomes....sell the alts, sell the btc, etc trying to get the illusion back that at least got me from 2013 till 2018 with SOME idea of wtf I am doing...those days seem to be gone. Truely, if all that crypto does for me is allow me to retire 3 years early, at my same dubious lifestyle till the above mentioned 66 years. Also, giving you guys a laugh at my expense does not hurt....good to have an ego check on all this crypto stuff... Anyway, crypto will work till it don't I guess....and I can decide to continue to ride or jump off...but so far have resisted...there is NO WAY I can lose on any of the above .even if BTC goes to tulips I am likely in no danger of having to go back to work for a living. Also this is the most fun using my head on complex stuff, since i was in College, thus what? Back to 'internet cats' for intellectual stimulation? Anyway, so far have resisted but if I did not have bitcointalk to 'bitch' about his or other stuff...I never would have mined from 2013 onward and been in this dubious "first world problem" of shuffling crypto vs usd about is HARD...sheesh ...I'm such a tool.  As to dubious other off topic stuff I've done ...Is I dumped 2.2 btc into LISK yesterday on that POS coin project. But that is my last hurrah with mining done, adding to the LISK hoard......so we will see, it will be interesting to see what I do as well in the future. But it is getting down to 'brace tack's" now....Alts are as good as they can get, BTC hoard secure since 2015, big time pow scrypt mining is winding down, what? ICO's (don't trust them) masternodes? (same not a clue) trading? can you guys see me trading crypto .you'd have to talk me off a microwave tower...maybe that is it, when the fun/glamor/and your confidence goes on wth is going on..perhaps pulling the plug on some/most is not a bad play...but then again, so many years of being called crazy I'd hate for my friends/relatives/etc to be proved right if it all goes tulips....so again, will be interesting to see what i do ..i've not a clue Brad |
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No way it goes to $3,000. Too many people will pile in if it goes anywhere near low $5,000’s.
Yep... probably will be just a flash crash from 5k to 3k! But I see things on the charts still according to the plan.  |
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