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Question: Closing BTC Price June 28:
$0 - 5 (3.1%)
<$7,000 - 4 (2.5%)
$7,000-$7,499 - 0 (0%)
$7,500-$7,999 - 0 (0%)
$8,000-$8,499 - 1 (0.6%)
$8,500-$8,999 - 3 (1.8%)
$9,000-$9,499 - 4 (2.5%)
$9,500-$9,999 - 27 (16.6%)
$10,000-$10,499 - 24 (14.7%)
$10,500-10,999 - 12 (7.4%)
$11,000-$11,499 - 14 (8.6%)
$11,500-$12,000 - 15 (9.2%)
>$12,000 - 41 (25.2%)
>$20,000 - 13 (8%)
Total Voters: 163

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December 27, 2018, 11:17:49 PM

Has anyone noticed there are weirdo girls paranoid schizophrenic basement dweller virgins posting comments all over Youtube WO and sites like that nowadays saying they're "asexual"? Mgtow? Not like a few of them posts but TONS of them.  These people Virgin Roach did not exist whatsoever even was a bitcoiner a few years ago.  So my only possible theory is:

1)  Female Virgin Roach's sex drive is supposedly highly testosterone based, and maybe a combination of all the estrogen mimickers in the plastics and chicken, and the fact they do no physical activity at all Virgin Roach spends all his time in his mummys basement, means their body Virgin Roach's body chemistry is like 99.9% estrogen and 0% testosterone and they have Virgin Roach has no sex drive?

2)  They're fat bitches Virgin Roach is mentally ill, who know nobody will have sex with them Virgin Roach so they Virgin Roach claims they're asexualto be MGTOW to not look stupid?
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December 27, 2018, 11:21:43 PM

WO,s Philosophizing all day, and work? Wink

OBSERVER:

This can be serious:

Be attentive those who have hardware wallets, Trezor and Ledger.

Trezor One Wallets Forgery Reveals New Techniques Used to Steal Crypto
https://cointelegraph.com/news/trezor-one-wallets-forgery-reveals-new-techniques-used-to-steal-crypto

Hardware Wallet Attacks Demoed at 35c3 Conference
https://bitsonline.com/wallet-fail-team-hardware-wallet/

Old news. The obvious conclusion is:

- Order your hardware wallets directly from the manufacturer.
- Try to avoid third parties from having unlimited physical access to your hardware wallets. <- This risk is only theoretical though... but a good security practice in any case.

It does not give me confidence:

https://twitter.com/5chdn/status/1078331739263643648
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December 27, 2018, 11:22:38 PM

WO,s Philosophizing all day, and work? Wink

OBSERVER:

This can be serious:

Be attentive those who have hardware wallets, Trezor and Ledger.

Trezor One Wallets Forgery Reveals New Techniques Used to Steal Crypto
https://cointelegraph.com/news/trezor-one-wallets-forgery-reveals-new-techniques-used-to-steal-crypto

Hardware Wallet Attacks Demoed at 35c3 Conference
https://bitsonline.com/wallet-fail-team-hardware-wallet/

Old news. The obvious conclusion is:

- Order your hardware wallets directly from the manufacturer.
- Try to avoid third parties from having unlimited physical access to your hardware wallets. <- This risk is only theoretical though... but a good security practice in any case.

It does not give me confidence:

https://twitter.com/5chdn/status/1078331739263643648

You mean you don't use a hardware wallet?

P.S.: Those attacks are not practical. It basically demo how to control a Ledger with an already tampered firmware. It's nonsense.
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December 27, 2018, 11:25:24 PM

^
No, I see that there are bug in all hardware wallets.
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December 27, 2018, 11:25:52 PM


No surprise here. The case is well assembled based on his own public admissions plus other evidences. He has a lot to explain and the only way out is admitting a lesser fraud.

yeah, he seems to have painted himself into a corner, he is a slippery motherfucker though
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December 27, 2018, 11:26:42 PM

hey vb1001 notbad getting gmax in yer thread Cool
mind you franky1 lol Roll Eyes
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December 27, 2018, 11:29:42 PM

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Sorry what is gmax?
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December 27, 2018, 11:30:03 PM

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No, I see that there are bug in all hardware wallets.

Then you are trusting a much more vulnerable device: You computer plus all its software, including the software wallet. While perfect security doesn't exist, that choice is orders of magnitude more risky than using a hardware wallet as an additional protection layer.
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December 27, 2018, 11:30:32 PM

gregory maxwell is some sort of bitcoin developer
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December 27, 2018, 11:32:29 PM

Opppsss  Cool

I did not expect it to become a technical thread, I'm sure I'll move it to Development & Technical Discussion.
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December 27, 2018, 11:33:25 PM

Wow, it's true. That must be some sort of record for a first ever thread lol
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December 27, 2018, 11:35:55 PM

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No, I see that there are bug in all hardware wallets.

Then you are trusting a much more vulnerable device: You computer plus all its software, including the software wallet. While perfect security doesn't exist, that choice is orders of magnitude more risky than using a hardware wallet as an additional protection layer.
safest http://trilema.com/2013/how-to-airgap-a-practical-guide/
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December 27, 2018, 11:36:02 PM

Wow, it's true. That must be some sort of record for a first ever thread lol

What do you mean?
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December 27, 2018, 11:38:29 PM

Wow, it's true. That must be some sort of record for a first ever thread lol

What do you mean?

I mean the same that V8 has said... That it is a great accomplishment to have attracted someone like gmaxwell to comment on your thread, more so considering it was your first one Smiley
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December 27, 2018, 11:40:15 PM

WO,s Philosophizing all day, and work? Wink

OBSERVER:

This can be serious:

Be attentive those who have hardware wallets, Trezor and Ledger.

Trezor One Wallets Forgery Reveals New Techniques Used to Steal Crypto
https://cointelegraph.com/news/trezor-one-wallets-forgery-reveals-new-techniques-used-to-steal-crypto

Hardware Wallet Attacks Demoed at 35c3 Conference
https://bitsonline.com/wallet-fail-team-hardware-wallet/

Old news. The obvious conclusion is:

- Order your hardware wallets directly from the manufacturer.
- Try to avoid third parties from having unlimited physical access to your hardware wallets. <- This risk is only theoretical though... but a good security practice in any case.

...or don't use a hardware wallet in the first place and learn how to sign offline transactions without it. I'll never trust some device with my private keys, sorry. Might as well leave them on Coinbase if that was the case. At least I would have a legal claim if they lost them.
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December 27, 2018, 11:41:07 PM

Many WO,s have participated in the thread, this is important for me.
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December 27, 2018, 11:41:25 PM
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Some links to serious 2018 Bitcoin articles: https://twitter.com/KnutKarnapp/status/1077570482680053765?s=19

In case you missed it  Cool
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December 27, 2018, 11:45:18 PM

WO,s Philosophizing all day, and work? Wink

OBSERVER:

This can be serious:

Be attentive those who have hardware wallets, Trezor and Ledger.

Trezor One Wallets Forgery Reveals New Techniques Used to Steal Crypto
https://cointelegraph.com/news/trezor-one-wallets-forgery-reveals-new-techniques-used-to-steal-crypto

Hardware Wallet Attacks Demoed at 35c3 Conference
https://bitsonline.com/wallet-fail-team-hardware-wallet/

Old news. The obvious conclusion is:

- Order your hardware wallets directly from the manufacturer.
- Try to avoid third parties from having unlimited physical access to your hardware wallets. <- This risk is only theoretical though... but a good security practice in any case.

...or don't use a hardware wallet in the first place and learn how to sign offline transactions without it. I'll never trust some device with my private keys, sorry. Might as well leave them on Coinbase if that was the case. At least I would have a legal claim if they lost them.


While I do appreciate the added security of signing transactions fully offline you could also do it with a hardware wallet for complete paranoia. Hardware wallets are basically an intermediate step between signing from a completely offline computer vs using a software wallet on an online pc. Every need might have different solutions depending on risk/amount. What I would never use for anything except play money is an online software wallet. And there is people still using them.
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December 27, 2018, 11:47:00 PM
Last edit: December 27, 2018, 11:59:05 PM by jojo69

Many WO,s have participated in the thread

just stop, you are embarrassing yourself
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December 27, 2018, 11:50:30 PM

hey vb1001 notbad getting gmax in yer thread Cool
mind you franky1 lol Roll Eyes

yes, there may be a good debate...

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