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[JayJuanGee]

Bit worried about the Mayor and Quadrigacx

Oh yeah... hadn't thought about that possible connection.

By the way, it is funny that we have not had many members of this thread asserting that they lost money in Quadrigacx.

 Somehow I feel goaded into a reply:

 There's nothing funny about it and we won't be certain how much money we have lost (assertions will be difficult) until the legal process is complete and from my perspective it is mildly embarrassing - I can only imagine how others feel.  There is a modicum of hope that some money will be recovered though with all the lawyers and bean-counters involved, any amounts of cash and/or coin recovered is dwindling as they take their pound of flesh for services rendered.  I stand to lose some (or all) of the CAD I have on the QuadrigaCX exchange but thanks to jbreher for reminding me about the proof of keys, I transferred the Bitcoin held on QuadrigaCX back to my local wallets on Dec. 31st.

I did not mean to goad you into a response by using the word "funny."  The longer that we are in bitcoin, the more likely we are going to have some incident with an exchange or hacking or something like that, so I thought that it was a bit "strange" (aka "funny") that no one had really gone into any detail in this thread about some of their personal value being involved in QuadrigaCX - especially since 1) it was a BIG exchange with a lot of value and 2) if you are personally impacted, this seems like a decently logical place to vent about the topic.

By the way, I have lost money on exchanges, and I have frequently posted here and in other threads about some of my trials and tribulations regarding such experiences.  I have not posted as much about my early 2017 sims jacking experience partly because I continued to get attacked for a period of time after such initial hacking situation. 

Also, it can be embarrassing to lose funds on exchanges, and I certainly have brought down the amount of BTC and other value that I keep on exchanges, but still, it can remain a real BIG loss to have only one portion of coins/value compromised on one exchange, even if it is only a fraction of total HODLings.

It's disheartening but nothing new in Bitcoin.  I've been screwed by Butterfly Labs on ASIC purchases, screwed by KNC miner who had my money for nearly a year without delivering my mining device or refunding my money(Bitcoin), I've been screwed out of funds when BTC-TC got shaken down by the SEC, screwed out of funds by creativex when he disappeared with investor funds from our mining operation bASIC Mining, screwed by ASICMiner (friedcat) when they went tits up and he disappeared after moving the shares from BTC-TC to Havelock Investments, slightly screwed over by AMHash (which may or may not have been mining at all), nearly screwed by Cryptsy though I never kept much on there as it was only used for exchanging my mined altcoin for Bitcoin, I had set up an account on GOX but never put money or coins in it fortunately, I've even been screwed on a coffee purchase using Bitcoin here on the forum.  Fuck.  Any normal person probably would have quit Bitcoin by now but I guess I'm a glutton for punishment.

You are not "normal".  hahahahaha

But seriously, you have a decently long list of screwed, and yours might be a bit longer than mine, even though I do have a few personal interaction transactions that I could add to my list of "screwed" and dealing with dishonest persons.  I have a few "honest" person experiences too in which the person had the opportunity to screw me, but did the right thing and did not.  I am sure that members who dabble more in ICOs and alts are going to have a longer list.

I know you like percentages JJG so I'll give you two.  My CAD on deposit with QuadrigaCX (which I stand to lose) is ~300% of my total investment in Bitcoin or ~7% of the money I spent on cigarettes when I was young(er) and foolish(er).

I do like percentages.  Thanks for that.       The ~300%  sounds like a lot, but the ~7% does not seem too bad.

My most recent large loss that I am kind of concluding to be my fault is my WEX account.  I had given them too much benefit of the doubt, though if I lose all of the value there, then that would be less than 1% of my total BTC investment portfolio.. but still feels like a lot...   those fucks.

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[El duderino_]

I still have the most Bitcoin I have ever had

Very cool then ! 
And thanks for taking this with so much class.

XhomerX ain’t no french Guy  


just joking

[Biodom]

Massive clinical trials for anti-aging are taking place atm..here is one off the top of my head. I think there is a real possibility that we could be one of the last generations to die.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/30616998

https://www.sciencealert.com/experimental-anti-aging-treatment-that-kills-old-cells-has-passed-first-human-trial

That's the study i was talking about somewhere above, but it is just a start.
Personally, I don't like SENS and A. de Gray. Too much ideology and too little actual science.
However, extending life as a gradual process appeals to me.
Extended 10 years, then during these years, maybe something that extends 20 years would be found, etc, etc.

I would gladly dispose of most of my crypto (mostly btc) if there is a reliable, albeit expensive treatment, but only under a condition that it is a 'healthspan".
It only makes sense if you feel and look younger.

[jojo69]

Life preservation.
It's lobsters, all the way down.
Need more telomeres.

motherfucker...1sm

[kenzawak]

I still have the most Bitcoin I have ever had

Very cool then ! 
And thanks for taking this with so much class.

XhomerX ain’t no french Guy  


just joking

Not now please, I'm watching a replay of the World Cup semi final.

Kiddin' too lol

[Biodom]

Life preservation.
It's lobsters, all the way down.
Need more telomeres.

motherfucker...1sm

telomers would not solve anything, you would get more cancer as a side effect (a fact).

[Globb0]

(...)

 It's disheartening but nothing new in Bitcoin.  I've been screwed by Butterfly Labs on ASIC purchases, screwed by KNC miner who had my money for nearly a year without delivering my mining device or refunding my money(Bitcoin), I've been screwed out of funds when BTC-TC got shaken down by the SEC, screwed out of funds by creativex when he disappeared with investor funds from our mining operation bASIC Mining, screwed by ASICMiner (friedcat) when they went tits up and he disappeared after moving the shares from BTC-TC to Havelock Investments, slightly screwed over by AMHash (which may or may not have been mining at all), nearly screwed by Cryptsy though I never kept much on there as it was only used for exchanging my mined altcoin for Bitcoin, I had set up an account on GOX but never put money or coins in it fortunately, I've even been screwed on a coffee purchase using Bitcoin here on the forum.  Fuck.  Any normal person probably would have quit Bitcoin by now but I guess I'm a glutton for punishment.

 I know you like percentages JJG so I'll give you two.  My CAD on deposit with QuadrigaCX (which I stand to lose) is ~300% of my total investment in Bitcoin or ~7% of the money I spent on cigarettes when I was young(er) and foolish(er).
 

Weird how unevenly luck is distributed in this scammy cryptoverse. I had invested in an AvalonIII group purchase done by a bitcointalk scammer with the name Candoo but was able to get the coins back from him(2013). Had invested in a Avalon-chip group buy that never got delivered, btc were refunded(2013). Had 70 btc on bitcoin24 when it got busted and closed by polish/german authorities. the kid that owned bitcoin24 refunded almost all bitcoin back to their owners(2013). Butterfly labs screwed me with sending out the miner i ordered with a delay of 20 months(2014). (that was a real loss). I had just sent a few thousand bucks to the french exchange paymium when it got hacked and closed for some weeks, money was refunded(2013). Had coins on bitstamp when it got hacked, coins refunded(2015). KNC purchase of their first miner worked well, second round was a big mess (no miners delivered) but thanks to sam cole all coins were refunded. BFlabs was the only real loss (about $2k) Another real loss was investing in Klee´s altcoin enterprise in 2016. That was when it finally dawned on me that the thing to do with btc is hodl in cold storage and NEVER EVER "invest" it in anything.

i wish you the best for your coins on quadrigacx.

I lost a lot in the Sharex exit scam. Long time past now. 

[VB1001]

Bitcoin Delta Capitalization

A New View of BTC Long-Term Valuation

Where is the bottom?

When is the next bull run coming along?

https://medium.com/@kenoshaking/bitcoin-delta-capitalization-1d51a7b256b4

https://twitter.com/woonomic

[El duderino_]

Life preservation.
It's lobsters, all the way down.
Need more telomeres.

BobLawblaw appears.
Talk lobsters, while sober up.
Meh fastfood today!!
!!


Quick perhaps, bored of McDo’s

Going for Some veggie giants

[Biodom]

Massive clinical trials for anti-aging are taking place atm..here is one off the top of my head. I think there is a real possibility that we could be one of the last generations to die.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/30616998

https://www.sciencealert.com/experimental-anti-aging-treatment-that-kills-old-cells-has-passed-first-human-trial

Man wasn't meant to live forever, we don't need a 1000 year reigning Nero.

it's funny for you to say that.
Wasn't Methuselah 969 year old when he died, according to Genesis (5:27).

[JayJuanGee]

It'd also probably be quite cumbersome to shit billions and billions and billions of human bodies for replacements.

I think I may have stumbled on a ready source of headless bodies...see above.

Poor people as bodies for the rich?  That is part of the sci-fi scary part, right?

[xhomerx10]

(...)

 It's disheartening but nothing new in Bitcoin.  I've been screwed by Butterfly Labs on ASIC purchases, screwed by KNC miner who had my money for nearly a year without delivering my mining device or refunding my money(Bitcoin), I've been screwed out of funds when BTC-TC got shaken down by the SEC, screwed out of funds by creativex when he disappeared with investor funds from our mining operation bASIC Mining, screwed by ASICMiner (friedcat) when they went tits up and he disappeared after moving the shares from BTC-TC to Havelock Investments, slightly screwed over by AMHash (which may or may not have been mining at all), nearly screwed by Cryptsy though I never kept much on there as it was only used for exchanging my mined altcoin for Bitcoin, I had set up an account on GOX but never put money or coins in it fortunately, I've even been screwed on a coffee purchase using Bitcoin here on the forum.  Fuck.  Any normal person probably would have quit Bitcoin by now but I guess I'm a glutton for punishment.

 I know you like percentages JJG so I'll give you two.  My CAD on deposit with QuadrigaCX (which I stand to lose) is ~300% of my total investment in Bitcoin or ~7% of the money I spent on cigarettes when I was young(er) and foolish(er).
 

Weird how unevenly luck is distributed in this scammy cryptoverse. I had invested in an AvalonIII group purchase done by a bitcointalk scammer with the name Candoo but was able to get the coins back from him(2013). Had invested in a Avalon-chip group buy that never got delivered, btc were refunded(2013). Had 70 btc on bitcoin24 when it got busted and closed by polish/german authorities. the kid that owned bitcoin24 refunded almost all bitcoin back to their owners(2013). Butterfly labs screwed me with sending out the miner i ordered with a delay of 20 months(2014). (that was a real loss). I had just sent a few thousand bucks to the french exchange paymium when it got hacked and closed for some weeks, money was refunded(2013). Had coins on bitstamp when it got hacked, coins refunded(2015). KNC purchase of their first miner worked well, second round was a big mess (no miners delivered) but thanks to sam cole all coins were refunded. BFlabs was the only real loss (about $2k) Another real loss was investing in Klee´s altcoin enterprise in 2016. That was when it finally dawned on me that the thing to do with btc is hodl in cold storage and NEVER EVER "invest" it in anything.

i wish you the best for your coins on quadrigacx.

 Mersi!
 Maybe QuadrigaCX will be my Paymium

[Toxic2040]

Massive clinical trials for anti-aging are taking place atm..here is one off the top of my head. I think there is a real possibility that we could be one of the last generations to die.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/30616998

https://www.sciencealert.com/experimental-anti-aging-treatment-that-kills-old-cells-has-passed-first-human-trial

Man wasn't meant to live forever, we don't need a 1000 year reigning Nero.

it's funny for you to say that.
Wasn't Methuselah 969 year old when he died, according to Genesis (5:27).

+1 WOsMerit

Also worth noting...Nero committed suicide, he did not die of natural causes.

It'd also probably be quite cumbersome to shit billions and billions and billions of human bodies for replacements.

I think I may have stumbled on a ready source of headless bodies...see above.

Poor people as bodies for the rich?  That is part of the sci-fi scary part, right?

Yea..I am pretty sure this will be a thing..for better or worse.  Have you watched altered carbon yet jjg?  Highly recommend that you do if you havent yet. I definitely would want a model with military combat enhancements.

[Paashaas]

Argentina Settles Export Deal With Paraguay Using Bitcoin.

https://cointelegraph.com/news/argentina-settles-export-deal-with-paraguay-using-bitcoin/amp

[600watt]

When 5K

When 7.7k

When 10k

When 15K

When ATH break

Exact dates please

 

5k: Dec 2019
7.7k: Nov 2020
10k: March 2021
15k: May 2021
ath break: August 2021
peak: Dec 2022 @ $115k

[goldkingcoiner]

When 5K

When 7.7k

When 10k

When 15K

When ATH break

Exact dates please

 

tomorrow. I promise.

[CryptoNeed]

When 5K

When 7.7k

When 10k

When 15K

When ATH break

Exact dates please

 

5k: Oct 2019
7.7k: Mar 2020
10k: Jun 2021
15k: Jul 2021
ath break: Sep 2021
ATH: Dec 2021 @ $225k

[mindrust]

To celebrate the 10th anniversary of the forum Theymos is thinking about to make a physical coin giveaway!

Share your thoughts:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5111005.0

Hype!

[JayJuanGee]

Bit worried about the Mayor and Quadrigacx

Oh yeah... hadn't thought about that possible connection.

By the way, it is funny that we have not had many members of this thread asserting that they lost money in Quadrigacx.

I lost 1.5 BTC on Quad, which was supposed to fund my expenses for the next several months. And I only use exchanges for the duration of the deposit, trade, and withdrawal. It just happened to die on me at the exact wrong (or right) time I used it. Otherwise, I don't keep anything on any exchange.

I agree that every little bit can count, sometimes, and there can also be some coincidentalness to the situation.

Some folks have expressed some pretty murderous wishes upon QuadrigaCX, including the fact that if the owner does not happen to be dead, he should be made dead as soon as that fact is discovered....

O.k.. assuming fake death, then a death certificate, and then a change of identity including some physical appearance changes - because his physical image is a bit known.  Thereafter, live a kind of life in which you hope no one recognizes you? Maybe not a BIG deal, but a bit more difficult in modern (internet connected) times.

[xhomerx10]

Bit worried about the Mayor and Quadrigacx

Oh yeah... hadn't thought about that possible connection.

By the way, it is funny that we have not had many members of this thread asserting that they lost money in Quadrigacx.

 Somehow I feel goaded into a reply:

 There's nothing funny about it and we won't be certain how much money we have lost (assertions will be difficult) until the legal process is complete and from my perspective it is mildly embarrassing - I can only imagine how others feel.  There is a modicum of hope that some money will be recovered though with all the lawyers and bean-counters involved, any amounts of cash and/or coin recovered is dwindling as they take their pound of flesh for services rendered.  I stand to lose some (or all) of the CAD I have on the QuadrigaCX exchange but thanks to jbreher for reminding me about the proof of keys, I transferred the Bitcoin held on QuadrigaCX back to my local wallets on Dec. 31st.

I did not mean to goad you into a response by using the word "funny."  The longer that we are in bitcoin, the more likely we are going to have some incident with an exchange or hacking or something like that, so I thought that it was a bit "strange" (aka "funny") that no one had really gone into any detail in this thread about some of their personal value being involved in QuadrigaCX - especially since 1) it was a BIG exchange with a lot of value and 2) if you are personally impacted, this seems like a decently logical place to vent about the topic.

By the way, I have lost money on exchanges, and I have frequently posted here and in other threads about some of my trials and tribulations regarding such experiences.  I have not posted as much about my early 2017 sims jacking experience partly because I continued to get attacked for a period of time after such initial hacking situation. 

Also, it can be embarrassing to lose funds on exchanges, and I certainly have brought down the amount of BTC and other value that I keep on exchanges, but still, it can remain a real BIG loss to have only one portion of coins/value compromised on one exchange, even if it is only a fraction of total HODLings.

It's disheartening but nothing new in Bitcoin.  I've been screwed by Butterfly Labs on ASIC purchases, screwed by KNC miner who had my money for nearly a year without delivering my mining device or refunding my money(Bitcoin), I've been screwed out of funds when BTC-TC got shaken down by the SEC, screwed out of funds by creativex when he disappeared with investor funds from our mining operation bASIC Mining, screwed by ASICMiner (friedcat) when they went tits up and he disappeared after moving the shares from BTC-TC to Havelock Investments, slightly screwed over by AMHash (which may or may not have been mining at all), nearly screwed by Cryptsy though I never kept much on there as it was only used for exchanging my mined altcoin for Bitcoin, I had set up an account on GOX but never put money or coins in it fortunately, I've even been screwed on a coffee purchase using Bitcoin here on the forum.  Fuck.  Any normal person probably would have quit Bitcoin by now but I guess I'm a glutton for punishment.

You are not "normal".  hahahahaha

But seriously, you have a decently long list of screwed, and yours might be a bit longer than mine, even though I do have a few personal interaction transactions that I could add to my list of "screwed" and dealing with dishonest persons.  I have a few "honest" person experiences too in which the person had the opportunity to screw me, but did the right thing and did not.  I am sure that members who dabble more in ICOs and alts are going to have a longer list.

I know you like percentages JJG so I'll give you two.  My CAD on deposit with QuadrigaCX (which I stand to lose) is ~300% of my total investment in Bitcoin or ~7% of the money I spent on cigarettes when I was young(er) and foolish(er).

I do like percentages.  Thanks for that.       The ~300%  sounds like a lot, but the ~7% does not seem too bad.

My most recent large loss that I am kind of concluding to be my fault is my WEX account.  I had given them too much benefit of the doubt, though if I lose all of the value there, then that would be less than 1% of my total BTC investment portfolio.. but still feels like a lot...   those fucks.

 Maybe goaded was a poor choice; perhaps I should have used incited or roused  
Thanks for sharing your experiences as well.  While the ~7% doesn't seem too bad it gives me some perspective.  Cigarettes were over $40 per carton when I quit and they're over $100 per carton now (a carton is 200 cigarettes or about a week's worth for a pack-a-day smoker).  I have made worse choices than using QuadrigaCX in my life.