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[Dig Bicks]

I see we disagree heavily,  my main goal is to give people a baseline like an UBI.  We are missing out on a lot of potential by people stuck in poverty that go through extreme stress and are never able to achieve anything great.  I believe everyone should at least have their basics met: education, healthcare, housing, food.

You are rich right? Go do that with your money and shut the fuck up about how the rest of us use ours.

There is only so much one person can do.  Don't you realize crime and violence happens mostly because of poverty.  I'm a bad person for wanting to make the world a better place?

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[BTCMILLIONAIRE]

Others people's money is a dangerous word.  Profit is the unpaid value that workers create.  So really a lot of money is just stolen from others.

Workers get a guaranteed salary, regardless of how the business is going.

They don't participate in the risk and have no right to the payouts that the risk brings. There are equity options for those that care about putting their salary on the line.

Not to mention it's a voluntary exchange. So nothing stolen here whatsoever.


Except for the case that you tried to argue against (e.g. "other people's money"). Nobody asked if they want to pay taxes.

[El duderino_]

Yeah all around english isn’t the best kitchen as well

This topic is to talk about a technology that require some knowledge of science, computer science, math and economic. You need to create two topics, one to talk about food, the other to talk about dildos.

What?  This isn't the what Micgoossens ate today, and yesterday, and the day before thread?

And its not the extinct nazi thread/useless silver thread neither
What are we gonna do r0ach?

[El duderino_]

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Its the Micg Goes into HODLsleep thread for now!

[wachtwoord]

I see we disagree heavily,  my main goal is to give people a baseline like an UBI.  We are missing out on a lot of potential by people stuck in poverty that go through extreme stress and are never able to achieve anything great.  I believe everyone should at least have their basics met: education, healthcare, housing, food.

You are rich right? Go do that with your money and shut the fuck up about how the rest of us use ours.

There is only so much one person can do.  Don't you realize crime and violence happens mostly because of poverty.  I'm a bad person for wanting to make the world a better place?

You are a bad person for trying to take others' money. You are evil for trying to look good giving it away to others. It's ironic you're making the world a worse place in the long run for everyone. I dispise people like you so much ...

[Dig Bicks]

This is the wrong place for me to talk about socialism, Universal basic income.  Most bitcoiners are hardcore libertarians.

Even Elon Musk admits that wealth distribution will be mandatory very soon with the rise of automation.

Joe Rogan had a recent convo with Yang about UBI  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAtyv8NpbFQ

[wachtwoord]

This is the wrong place for me to talk about socialism, Universal basic income.  Most bitcoiners are hardcore libertarians.

Even Elon Musk admits that wealth distribution will be mandatory very soon with the rise of automation.

Universal basic income is literally the most retarded idea ever in the history of the world.

Newsflash for you millenials around here: the universe owns you nothing. Go do or creare something useful for yourself and/or others and you'll be able to take care of yourself.

Btw: Elon fucking Musk is your great example now?

[El duderino_]

You gain more fiat in a bull market.

You gain more bitcoin in a bear market.

You learn to value your wealth in bitcoin and it becomes simple.

You learn to realize this may be the last chance people can afford an entire bitcoin and catching the bottom means less and less.

https://twitter.com/alecziupsnys/status/1095802627080798213?s=21

[El duderino_]

NASDAQ to add a bitcoin index on its platform.

They are reading the writing on the wall and don't want to get left behind.

There is no stopping this.

Adoption happens gradually right in front of you, until you finally pause, look around, and bitcoin is the dominant asset.

https://twitter.com/AlecZiupsnys/status/1095826372323209217

[Dig Bicks]

This is the wrong place for me to talk about socialism, Universal basic income.  Most bitcoiners are hardcore libertarians.

Even Elon Musk admits that wealth distribution will be mandatory very soon with the rise of automation.

Universal basic income is literally the most retarded idea ever.

Newsflash for you millenials around here: the universe owns you nothing. Go do or creare something useful for yourself and/or others and you'll be able to take care of yourself.

Btw: Elon fucking Musk is your great example now?

People are born into a monopoly game where all the pieces are already owned.  The numbers don't lie, falling wages, rising house prices.  You don't even have the option to just go and live off the land if you want, everything is "owned".

I brought up Elon Musk because you seem to respect wealthy people, maybe he can knock some sense into your brain.

[El duderino_]

The entire financial system is broken beyond repair, yet nobody wants to admit it.
Everyone will be forced to admit it kicking and screaming.

via Imgflip Meme Generator

https://twitter.com/charliebilello/status/1095403199656284165?s=21

[wachtwoord]

This is the wrong place for me to talk about socialism, Universal basic income.  Most bitcoiners are hardcore libertarians.

Even Elon Musk admits that wealth distribution will be mandatory very soon with the rise of automation.

Universal basic income is literally the most retarded idea ever.

Newsflash for you millenials around here: the universe owns you nothing. Go do or creare something useful for yourself and/or others and you'll be able to take care of yourself.

Btw: Elon fucking Musk is your great example now?

People are born into a monopoly game where all the pieces are already owned.  The numbers don't lie, falling wages, rising house prices.  You don't even have the option to just go and live off the land if you want, everything is "owned".

I brought up Elon Musk because you seem to respect wealthy people, maybe he can knock some sense into your brain.

Lol, I value people creating value. And the whole deck's stacked against me is so old. Try to play the hand your dealt and don't blame others for it.

If you learn to do something valuable and aren't to lazy to do so you can improve your situation without leaching on others. Time to stop being jealous and lazy and do something other than point at the things the other animals collected for winter.

[BTCMILLIONAIRE]

This is the wrong place for me to talk about socialism, Universal basic income.  Most bitcoiners are hardcore libertarians.

Even Elon Musk admits that wealth distribution will be mandatory very soon with the rise of automation.

Joe Rogan had a recent convo with Yang about UBI  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAtyv8NpbFQ

Wealth distribution =/= wealth redistribution =/= UBI.

[BTCMILLIONAIRE]

This is the wrong place for me to talk about socialism, Universal basic income.  Most bitcoiners are hardcore libertarians.

Even Elon Musk admits that wealth distribution will be mandatory very soon with the rise of automation.

Universal basic income is literally the most retarded idea ever.

Newsflash for you millenials around here: the universe owns you nothing. Go do or creare something useful for yourself and/or others and you'll be able to take care of yourself.

Btw: Elon fucking Musk is your great example now?

People are born into a monopoly game where all the pieces are already owned.  The numbers don't lie, falling wages, rising house prices.  You don't even have the option to just go and live off the land if you want, everything is "owned".

I brought up Elon Musk because you seem to respect wealthy people, maybe he can knock some sense into your brain.

Wages are pretty much constant, not falling, because people want to be smart and lazy. Whine about your life and try to steal money from others and you'll get used and abused instead of becoming an ally.

Your assertion that "all pieces are already owned" is completely and utterly false as well. Or do you refresh your statement every Planck second?

[realr0ach]

This is the wrong place for me to talk about socialism, Universal basic income.  Most bitcoiners are hardcore libertarians.

The purpose of communism is a Jewish scam to centralize all wealth and power so they can then steal it all and rule over everyone as slaves.  Communism requires enormously centralized, pyramid-style, hierarchical control.  All you're saying is "give all your sovereignty, wealth, freedom, and rights to some evil Jews so you can be their servants".

It's no coincidence the majority of Russian oligarchs that stole ALL of Russia's wealth are Jews.  So called "UBI" is just a rebranded name of communism to try and accomplish this goal.  Yes, almost all wealth is already centralized...because we have a central bank and a central bank is one of the main tenets of communism.  They just want to attempt to force people into accepting the rest of communism's tenets now.  In other words, communism caused the problem - you already live in a communist system - and now you're claiming implementing more communism will help fix it.  

In reality, hanging the bankers and expelling the communist Jews is the real solution.  Also other measures like outlawing branch banking, fractional reserve, and all the other scams so they can't do it all over again.

[rebal15]

Yeah all around english isn’t the best kitchen as well

This topic is to talk about a technology that require some knowledge of science, computer science, math and economic. You need to create two topics, one to talk about food, the other to talk about dildos.

What?  This isn't the what Micgoossens ate today, and yesterday, and the day before thread?

And its not the extinct nazi thread/useless silver thread neither
What are we gonna do r0ach?

Sometimes we need comparison and examples for better and comprehensive discussion.
Silver an Bitcoin have one thing in common which is trading.
But what dildo or food and BTC have in common.

[Biodom]

From the mouths of children another wake up call. Who is listening?

TED talks w/ Greta Thunberg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2QxFM9y0tY


will play a pivotal roll in the coming changes that are necessary to transition off this destructive oil based economy and into a sustainable environmentally friendly one.

she is a child and speak like a child...
Do we mess up nature...sure we do.
However, ask whether people of Sweden (or anywhere else) will give up their meat and their warm winter flats, etc etc in a noble goal of reducing emissions (with a big maybe), and you would hear a resounding NO.

Realistically, i see only two possibilities:
1. We will continue with population growth, pollution, environmental destruction until we would be too stupid to even comprehend the consequences (CO2 levels twice above normal reduce your intellect by 20%).
Why we would continue? because our lifespan is too short to comprehend the change that occurs over relatively long time periods (more than 30-50 years) and act on this in a democratic society with no dominating opinion.
Once we self-destruct en masse, Earth will return to semi-balance within 100 thou years, maximum a million, only to become unlivable (due to expanding Sun) in about 1 billion years.
BTW, I can see the effects of current civilization first hand. Most current students have significantly decreased levels of comprehension, critical thinking, analysis, etc. Maybe not true for Stanford, but certainly true in some run of the mill schools. The process of "idiocratization" is well on its way.
Can worldwide tech civilization sprung again after the survivors become smarter again following the crisis? Unlikely, since we already consumed vast %% of coal and oil.
This probably explains the Fermi paradox: there is nobody out there because it is impossible (or close to impossible) to solve this problem of civilization vs environmental destruction/pollution. This is proposed to be a Great Filter which presumably prevents civilization to continue over cosmically long time periods.

2. We would become non-biological, which would render Co2 levels moot. In such case, we would probably consume the biosphere or utilize their carbon for something else. Horrible?
Maybe, but it is my less favorable scenario.

[Toxic2040]

As long as capitalism reigns supreme pollution to the environment won't stop, everything is about money.

If everything was about money, people wouldn't be pushing for organic food.

It's obvious that you've got capitalism backwards. There are needs and desires, markets emerge to satisfy them. In this order.


Things just take time. And they're going pretty smooth as they are when considering the amount of idiots breeding like animals.

I feel compelled to break this down..

If everything was about money, people wouldn't be pushing for organic food.

This statement is what gets me..there is a obvious disconnect somewhere here if you think that normal people(ie not the 1%'ers) are more worried about their food having a government stamp of approval over having enough money to pay rent next month, your nukkin futz.

It's obvious that you've got capitalism backwards. There are needs and desires, markets emerge to satisfy them. In this order.

This is almost rational besides that fact that capitalism seems to work best on the latter and not the former.

Things just take time. And they're going pretty smooth as they are when considering the amount of idiots breeding like animals.

If you think things are going "smooth" I would invite you to walk around Caracas or perhaps a back road in Syria...even the streets Paris for that matter to obtain some perspective. While I can not ascertain whether or not "idiots" are breeding more or less I can tell you with a fair amount of confidence that the world population growth has been in decline since around 1962.


Be all these things as they may..I am hearing the same old rhetoric and the pass the buck it aint my problem mentality and frankly it sickens me. Be part of the solution or you are part of the problem.

[jojo69]

Omg will you be the first on my ignore list I wonder ....

would be best not to quote him for the benefit of those of us already ignoring

[goldkingcoiner]

NASDAQ to add a bitcoin index on its platform.

And Ethereum