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Question: When will we see a new ATH?
2023 - 51 (23.8%)
2024 - 85 (39.7%)
2025 - 59 (27.6%)
2026 - 4 (1.9%)
2027 - 2 (0.9%)
After 2027 - 4 (1.9%)
Never - 9 (4.2%)
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February 15, 2019, 04:51:24 AM

————>snip meme<———-
Time for a NEW poll
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dammit wrong again with my around 4.2 prediction .................. what is wrong with me and predicting BTC prices F***
$4,200-$4,400

watch LTC

Fuck LTC
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I was doing some simple math:

17.54 mil btc per 7.7 bil Earth inhabitants (lets forget about lost coins for this calculation):

0.00226btc/person

To be a 1% bitcoiner among earthlings you only need no more than 0.226 BTC (probably less, but I will use this number), which is about $814 right now.
I would think that any intelligent person should go ahead and make that purchase, it makes sense, even if you are skeptical.

Conclusion: btc is still super affordable.
In fiat world you need $871K (in assets) to be among 1% worldwide.
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February 15, 2019, 04:58:44 AM


Things that make you go hmmmmm

BTC v LTC (blue)


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February 15, 2019, 05:00:20 AM


Things that make you go hmmmmm


exactly
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February 15, 2019, 05:03:10 AM


the same a-holes might be playing the same games with two (or probably more) different coins, that's all.
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hey

I just observe the walls man
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February 15, 2019, 07:19:51 AM

I was doing some simple math:

17.54 mil btc per 7.7 bil Earth inhabitants (lets forget about lost coins for this calculation):

0.00226btc/person

To be a 1% bitcoiner among earthlings you only need no more than 0.226 BTC (probably less, but I will use this number), which is about $814 right now.
I would think that any intelligent person should go ahead and make that purchase, it makes sense, even if you are skeptical.

Conclusion: btc is still super affordable.
In fiat world you need $871K (in assets) to be among 1% worldwide.

I am having a little bit of a problem with your $871k to be sufficiently in the 1%, and even reasonable to live a passive income life-style of that amount.  That only gives you a $34,840 income per year (assuming a 4% withdrawal rate).  It seems that a minimum of twice that amount would b prudent if you are living some kind of lifestyle that involves western expenses, too.. not just 3rd world living (which $871k might be a manageable passive income amount in those places).

What if you currently have something close to $871k in assets in BTC (which would be 243BTCx$3,575)?  Then you are already in the 1% and your future prospects within bitcoin should be even better, but I would still think that you either need a minimum of a 2x appreciation in BTC prices or to double your stash to 486BTC.

On the other hand, if you have multiples of 10 less than that 243 BTC amount, then there is a requirement of  three 10x price improvements for you to get to the 1%-ers?  And, maybe even 20x price increases to get to the level of comfort that I consider to be a reasonably comfortable target.

But yeah, let's use a 10x variation of your numbers, which would be 226 BTC or 22.6 BTC or 2.26 BTC or your number of .226BTC (which is 100x more BTC than the average BTC max that anyone might have in a projected full BTC world)....

I understand that you are appealing to the smaller goal number on the multiples of 10 scenarios to both show that a reasonable hedge goal is manageable by very low income individuals right at this time versus my suggestion of higher numbers and various 10 equity hedge cushions.... because how long is it going to take to become a 1% under your projected scenario of .226 BTC?  30 years? 

I know that the scenario could happen of becoming a 1%-er with .226 BTC is possible earlier than 30 years, but you are suggesting more than a 1,000x BTC price increases in order to become a 1%-er, which would be more than $3million dollars per bitcoin.

Guys and gal here following this thread should surely be able to shoot higher than .226BTC.. and a minimum of 2.26 BTC and a 10x higher goal of 22.6 BTC should be achievable for guys and gal, here...    Now I am starting to think that longer term HODLers in this thread, who are thinking of retiring in the $50k BTC to $100kBTC territory likely have a BTC stash that is in the area of 40BTC to 50BTC arena...

No need to dox yourself anyone, but that's my thinking for the projected retirees at $50k plus per BTC arena.. and $50k is going to give a bit of a cushion.. so at 40BTC, then you have $2million and 50BTC you have $2.5million in BTC assets. 

I also know that no matter what I say, there are a lot of guys (and gal) here who are pricing their wealth in dollars, and they do not want to cash out 4% per year once they get to their BTC accumulation goal (and price target), they want to cash out a vast majority of their BTC at $50k, for example, because they want to lock in their dollar projections for how much they believe it takes for them to guarantee living passively off of the amount (given BTC's ongoing expected volatility)... .and we are not going straight to $3million per BTC any time soon...and who wants to wait 30 years to retire?
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Oh my!!!!!!   LTC pumping, now?  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

hey

I just observe the walls man

Snap out of it, man.  Otherwise, will have to post another batman gif.    Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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February 15, 2019, 07:30:51 AM

A 100x from here puts us as matching the market cap of gold (disregarding lost coins).  I'm pretty comfortable with that.
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February 15, 2019, 07:33:48 AM

Touch me baby.  Right there.  Yeah.  Feels so good.



Don't stop.  Do it again.  Yeah.

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February 15, 2019, 07:51:45 AM

Its happening, the avalanche of no-cost tokens is in motion.
First several countries (Russia, Saudi, Venezuela, Iran, UAE...) then JPM and now Japan IT giant releasing coins.
Every Bank large corporation Facebook, Apple.........will have its own non-minable coin. It will extend even to private individuals as status symbol or whatever other reason like attempted money grab. ICO was yesterday.

I know about just every active xrp thread, for hours not a single response to any of them. The xrp money grab is in its final stage. Never experienced  that bunch of ..... so quiet.
https://www.blockchain24.co/stablecoin-in-japan/
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February 15, 2019, 07:54:36 AM

A 100x from here puts us as matching the market cap of gold (disregarding lost coins).  I'm pretty comfortable with that.

X 100 from here & I don’t even know what I’d do with myself. It’d be fucking euphoric, wouldn’t it?

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Haha ETH just flipped XRP

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https://peerart.io/#/listing/1-000-356

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A 100x from here puts us as matching the market cap of gold (disregarding lost coins).  I'm pretty comfortable with that.

X 100 from here & I don’t even know what I’d do with myself. It’d be fucking euphoric, wouldn’t it?

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You would go unconscious after pulling 12Gs bro even wearing a g-suit
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February 15, 2019, 08:00:16 AM

A 100x from here puts us as matching the market cap of gold (disregarding lost coins).  I'm pretty comfortable with that.

X 100 from here & I don’t even know what I’d do with myself. It’d be fucking euphoric, wouldn’t it?

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You would go unconscious after pulling 12Gs bro even wearing a g-suit

Ahh man, hopefully our dreams come true.

I was reading the early pages of this thread the other day, April 2013, people were chatting when the price was $70. If we could even make those kind of gains from the current price I’d be the happiest man alive.
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February 15, 2019, 08:15:26 AM

Haha ETH just flipped XRP



Ripples shenanigans with xrp is not to be underestimated. Last year this time 1% or even less xrp added to circulating, currently over 3%

Forbes version of  market-capitalization becomes clear with the emergence of JPMjunk and others to follow all closed source. (Total coins times price).
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February 15, 2019, 08:18:31 AM

If JP's coin is privately mined and checksummed, then it's about as secure as a normal database and probably worse as they most likely fucked up the design. Not a biggie, or something I would trust more than a standard SQL server.

probably running on an MS Access 2007 Database....
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