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Question: How much of your corn do you plan on cashing out in the next massive bull run?
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June 01, 2019, 01:14:53 AM

Seems like a perfectly reasonable pattern.  We ought to bubble around the halvening and crash after.  

We are currently high, hot and fast heading toward the halvening.  What would really put the wind up the skirts would be a big crash just before the halvening.  Like a pre-fork crash.

Maybe that’s the scenario to aim for.  Bubble builds through 2019, then big crash in March or April 2020.  Slow recovery through second half of 2020 turning superexpoparabolic in late 2021.  

Well, that would be true if bitcoin were a shitcoin. But you ignore the very real adoption curve that is happening and the very real effect less new coins has on this adoption curve.
The real effect of the halving comes well after the actual event.
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June 01, 2019, 01:21:01 AM

Seems like a perfectly reasonable pattern.  We ought to bubble around the halvening and crash after.  

We are currently high, hot and fast heading toward the halvening.  What would really put the wind up the skirts would be a big crash just before the halvening.  Like a pre-fork crash.

Maybe that’s the scenario to aim for.  Bubble builds through 2019, then big crash in March or April 2020.  Slow recovery through second half of 2020 turning superexpoparabolic in late 2021.  

I have some concern its coming even faster than that..what if we just keep going up until say Oct. or Nov.   Big crash there abouts aided by Tulip Trust FUD or some similar dick move. Deep dive until mid Spring of 2020 and then all hell breaking loose in a para-rex towards $100k+


Its not just Bitcoin going through this compression...its global. I feel it.
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June 01, 2019, 01:25:25 AM

Yes it’s starting to feel like 2004 - 2006.  Record profits everywhere.  But that can run for a long time.

But what is the trigger?  It won’t be sub prime lending this time.  What is the legacy market financial WMD?
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June 01, 2019, 01:28:42 AM

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Daily MA200. My forecast changed to bearish when we were under it. Now the opposite situation. Net breakdown confirmed by prominent volumes. Here you can also note the fact of breaking up the weekly week. Long-term prognosis: bullish. New heights worth waiting in 12-18 months.
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June 01, 2019, 01:37:29 AM

Yes it’s starting to feel like 2004 - 2006.  Record profits everywhere.  But that can run for a long time.

But what is the trigger?  It won’t be sub prime lending this time.  What is the legacy market financial WMD?

ABS and CDO's?  Derivatives of some sort as always.
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June 01, 2019, 01:54:48 AM

The debt crisis is coming, hyperinflation of fiat is coming. This is a very simple situation to understand. Instead of trying to time your bitcoin dump, just buy what you can, hold and watch the meltdown.
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June 01, 2019, 01:59:20 AM

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June 01, 2019, 01:59:29 AM

They are doing a fairly crap job of hyperinflating at the moment

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June 01, 2019, 02:01:49 AM

Physical metals are not ring worlds.

They are, because their price is suppressed by the fiat system, which is based on unpayable global debt.

The only thing that can free PMs values is to change the fiat system to a bitcoin system. In this way, governments would have to sell their gold for bitcoin, thus increasing gold price.

That was possibly the dumbest thing I've ever read in my life.  Your argument centers around the false dichotomy that metals are derivatives of fiat paper and that Bitcoins are not.  Both objects are currently fiat derivatives, so your argument has no validity out of the gate, but through thousands of years of history, fiat paper has ALWAYS been derivatives of metals and not vice versa.  

If we apply the mediocrity principle, the current nature of metals is simply an outlier and will revert back to paper being derivatives of metals and not vice versa.  Once again, all you do is prove how loathsome and dishonest the nature of most humans is and how much they will lie in an attempt at personal gain - telling endless amounts of lies and bullshit in order to try and trick people into buying their imaginary, valueless, centralized, digital shitcoin scam.
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June 01, 2019, 02:06:56 AM

Lawsuit fun in riposte to Craigy and bum chum - https://twitter.com/PeterMcCormack/status/1134411099250581504

What a strange world we live in.

Craig forced his own hand on this one. Ought to be a doozy.

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You flew to the US to allow me to explain my perspective of Bitcoin; I just realized that we chatted about Craig for a few minutes during that 2017 interview. I'll happily return the favor and fly to the UK to explain to a judge that Craig is a pathological liar.


BTW I'm not so sure everyone knows what NET Worth means by the looks of the poll. Smiley

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June 01, 2019, 02:10:13 AM

They are doing a fairly crap job of hyperinflating at the moment



Do you really think bitcoin would be worth $8500 today if fiat had a future? It would be worth more like .85.
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June 01, 2019, 02:12:27 AM

Not that I didn't already know Craig Wright isn't Satoshi the first day he made the claim years ago, he sort of blows his cover when you can tell he's on the verge of laughter when that Asian guy asks him if he's Satoshi in the interview before replying "yes".  It is rather amusing seeing Craig trying to scam mindless, lying, digital shitcoin pump and dump scammers, though.  If just about everything claimed by shitcoin scammers is a lie from decentralization, to removing middlemen (it has built-in rent seeking middlemen) to everything else, fate would have it that you deserve Craig Wright.
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June 01, 2019, 02:25:37 AM

They are doing a fairly crap job of hyperinflating at the moment

https://i.ibb.co/3rKG2ZY/D76-F40-D7-DA47-4874-839-E-3-B56-BC344177.jpg

Do you really think bitcoin would be worth $8500 today if fiat had a future? It would be worth more like .85.

It's not worth "$8500 a piece" since price is set at the margin.  Example:  There was once a time when NXT was worth hundreds of millions in market cap but the only exchange it was really traded on was Poloniex and the buy side was an entire whopping 20 BTC.  Dump 20 BTC and it's worth $0 (I almost did it just to fuck with Come from Beyond).  

It's all a confidence game being propped up by people like Chinese scammers who control the mining monopoly and benefit from said price distortion and manipulation.  The real value of any digital shitcoin is zero because it's a fake commodity that nobody actually needs.  How many Bitcoins do you need to build a house with?  None.  How many Bitcoins do you need to create dinner?  None.  How many Bitcoins to do ANYTHING in the physical world at all?  None.  It's a Keynesian confidence game.
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June 01, 2019, 02:30:06 AM

They are doing a fairly crap job of hyperinflating at the moment

https://i.ibb.co/3rKG2ZY/D76-F40-D7-DA47-4874-839-E-3-B56-BC344177.jpg

Do you really think bitcoin would be worth $8500 today if fiat had a future? It would be worth more like .85.

It's not worth "$8500 a piece" since price is set at the margin.  Example:  There was once a time when NXT was worth hundreds of millions in market cap but the only exchange it was really traded on was Poloniex and the buy side was an entire whopping 20 BTC.  Dump 20 BTC and it's worth $0 (I almost did it just to fuck with Come from Beyond).  

It's all a confidence game being propped up by people like Chinese scammers who control the mining monopoly and benefit from said price distortion and manipulation.  The real value of any digital shitcoin is zero because it's a fake commodity that nobody actually needs.

Your fud is laughable, if you are being paid for it you should be fired.
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June 01, 2019, 02:36:57 AM

I am waiting for 10k. Lambie, you said 10k in 1 week, tell us the exact time with minutes if you can.

Did I? Show me where bc i dont feel like looking through my posts and a little reading might help your critical thinking skills or lack thereof.
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June 01, 2019, 02:37:51 AM

Your fud

Okay, Mr. Digital shitcoiner.  You hoard all 21 million worthless digital shitcoins then artificially rig the price to $1 trillion each.  Now how do you get me to buy into your pyramid scheme or use them?  You can't.  You're completely powerless and the entire planet ignores you like you don't even exist.  

Your scam falls apart because it's a fake commodity - a fake commodity that can also be replicated infinitely to make things even worse.  Meanwhile, I hoard all the physical silver in the world playing the same game as you except my strategy actually works since it's a real commodity people actually need.  That's not "fud", that's reality.  A fake commodity grants you zero power and you stand around looking like an idiot, while a real commodity actually does grant you power.
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Your fud

Okay, Mr. Digital shitcoiner.  You hoard all 21 million worthless digital shitcoins then artificially rig the price to $1 trillion each.  Now how do you get me to buy into your pyramid scheme or use them?  You can't.  You're completely powerless and the entire planet ignores you like you don't even exist.  

Your scam falls apart because it's a fake commodity - a fake commodity that can also be replicated infinitely to make things even worse.  Meanwhile, I hoard all the physical silver in the world playing the same game as you except my strategy actually works since it's a real commodity people actually need.  That's not "fud", that's reality.  A fake commodity grants you zero power and you stand around looking like an idiot, while a real commodity actually does grant you power.

If you really felt that this was worthless you wouldn't be here. I don't give a GD about gold or silver and see no value in buying any prior, now or in my future, but nobody would ever know it because I don't care enough to tell anyone how I feel.
See what I mean?
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Your fud

Okay, Mr. Digital shitcoiner.  You hoard all 21 million worthless digital shitcoins then artificially rig the price to $1 trillion each.  Now how do you get me to buy into your pyramid scheme or use them?  You can't.  You're completely powerless and the entire planet ignores you like you don't even exist.  

Your scam falls apart because it's a fake commodity - a fake commodity that can also be replicated infinitely to make things even worse.  Meanwhile, I hoard all the physical silver in the world playing the same game as you except my strategy actually works since it's a real commodity people actually need.  That's not "fud", that's reality.  A fake commodity grants you zero power and you stand around looking like an idiot, while a real commodity actually does grant you power.

If you really felt that this was worthless you wouldn't be here.

I got tired of seeing pathological liars shilling for centralized, non-fungible, permissioned ledger, digital scamcoins whose only possible endgame evolution is a replica of the Chinese social credit score system.  Anyone that doesn't want the govt trying to force the Chinese social credit score system on them has a dog in that race.
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June 01, 2019, 03:01:07 AM

snipped from https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg51300791#msg51300791

Hmm, not so Vastly Late after all Grin eh Mr. L Slayer?
#firstquintile #defamation #seeyouincourt #haveanicelife

I already copyrighted Vastly Lates with plans to fork Bitcoin in that name bc I am the real Faketoshi, so you cant have it anyways  Kiss, but you can come to my Bar of the same name one day, we will be open Late Cheesy
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How late?
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