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Question: 9/19 Closing Price:
0 - 1 (1.6%)
<$10,000 - 3 (4.8%)
$10,000-$10,500 - 2 (3.2%)
$10,501-$11,000 - 13 (20.6%)
$11,001-$11,500 - 19 (30.2%)
$11,501-$12,000 - 8 (12.7%)
$12,001-$12,500 - 7 (11.1%)
$12,501-$13,000 - 2 (3.2%)
>$13,000 - 3 (4.8%)
>$20,000 - 5 (7.9%)
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the devs hold 85% of the siacoin ... because of things
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May 30, 2019, 07:05:28 PM

Look at siacoin that i made so much profit on,  it acts as a decentrallised cloud server on the blockchain, pays people to store other peoples encrypted data with fail safes.  Inginious idea, but still sometihing like only 10 terabytes used,  when $150m is invested (or at least the market cap).  thats 5 x $50 2TB harddrives.


Thats because every altcoin have its price pegged to bitcoin.



I wouldn't say pegged so much as reactionary to bitcoins movements.  But during the long bear market from 2013 -2016, most alts were decimated until bitcoin revived.  but a few good alts emerged during the bear market, ETH, Monero ect.  



I asked in the altcoin forum if someone was making money out of Storj, which have a proposal similar to Siacoin.

Nobody answered. These projects are dead. Im not saying the idea of renting your disk space is bad, though.


If somehow Siacoin or one of the other storage alt made a coin that was not only capable of storage but to make an entirely decentralised internet and the space used for hosting, then that would get my attention.  No idea if it's even possible.  Kind of like Siacoin meets namecoin on a decentralised cryptographic TOR... second thoughts it's probably a bad idea, and will be used by the wrong people.
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May 30, 2019, 07:12:47 PM

^^^Billionaires want to buy 25% of all bitcoin??

Sorry but which billionaires would be that stoopid to think or say something like that?
Its like saying 'billionaire said they wanted to buy 25% of all the gold in the world,  or 25% of all the islands in the world'

It smells like some nextevel shillery from someone wanting to big note and set a web for hnwi clients, irs honeytrap etc?

What happened to Jorge Stolfi? Brazilian socialists shills are getting routed tbese days, hope that guy rots in a miserable outcome of his own making.

he still hates on twitter. i used to harass him there before bcash boyz got me banned.

https://twitter.com/JorgeStolfi?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor
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May 30, 2019, 07:16:47 PM

Brought to you by Carls Junior. "Fuck you im eating"

https://yt.ax/watch/carls-jr-fuck-you-im-eating-24787763/

Bacon 3 way.



After 2022, that will be what every hodler wakes up to every morning.

Indeed sir. My dad always told me when I was a young lad that monogamy is a poor nocoiners game. At least that what he should have said.  Cheesy
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May 30, 2019, 07:16:55 PM

he still hates on twitter. i used to harass him there before bcash boyz got me banned.

https://twitter.com/JorgeStolfi?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

That geezer mystified me. At certain points he must've been putting in 12 or more hour days on here and on Reddit for weeks and months on end. All that effort achieved precisely - fuck all.

Hopefully he'll go senile so he won't be consumed with regret at all that irreplaceable time he set on fire.
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May 30, 2019, 07:17:09 PM


I don't buy the "new money" argument.

Have you heard Tom Luongo's latest commentary on that subject ? I think it's very interesting and analytical. Will drop you in at the interesting bit but the whole thing is worth listening to IMO.



i'll take a look tonight.  thanks

16:30 he shares his instincts on what's happening w/ Bitcoin which may resonate with some.
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May 30, 2019, 07:29:19 PM

he still hates on twitter. i used to harass him there before bcash boyz got me banned.

https://twitter.com/JorgeStolfi?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

That geezer mystified me. At certain points he must've been putting in 12 or more hour days on here and on Reddit for weeks and months on end. All that effort achieved precisely - fuck all.

Hopefully he'll go senile so he won't be consumed with regret at all that irreplaceable time he set on fire.

Reflecting back on it..he sure knew how to get under ones skin. He has the honor of being the first person I ignored on this forum. People seriously baffle me at times..
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May 30, 2019, 07:34:09 PM
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yeah.. you need help.  You seem to be way too emotional in both your trades and your posts.  Surely, there are some posters, here, who are going to be willing to hold your hand through some of this emotional turmoil that you are going through.  So, I do feel a little bit sad for you allowing your book to cause so much emotion upon yourself, but you are not the only person participating, reading or posting in this thread, so in my humble bumble opinion, situations like yours can and should serve as learning examples for others rather than a bunch of peeps just feeling sorry for you..

Im not emotional with my trades,  Im fucked off with the constant bear images and memes at the bottom and all the, trains, rocket ships, some kids cartoon memes when it's clearly overbought.    Wether that's intenional or not i find it anoying, because I think it is intended to make people take emotional trading decisions.





Trade less, hodl more. I looked back at some of your old posts and wasnt long before I found you saying other coins would come along and replace King Bitcoin, so maybe find something you really believe in and hodl that. Anyway man, a blown up trade sucks for anyone so best of luck in the future.
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May 30, 2019, 07:38:57 PM

Reflecting back on it..he sure knew how to get under ones skin. He has the honor of being the first person I ignored on this forum. People seriously baffle me at times..

You knew perfectly well that he had zero interest in responding to any other reasoning than his own so I completely tuned it out. He was like a telescreen droning to himself in the corner of your living unit in Victory Mansions.
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May 30, 2019, 07:40:51 PM

Can anybody tell me how to claim bitcoin sv? Is it from BTC or BTC cash?
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he still hates on twitter. i used to harass him there before bcash boyz got me banned.

https://twitter.com/JorgeStolfi?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

That geezer mystified me. At certain points he must've been putting in 12 or more hour days on here and on Reddit for weeks and months on end. All that effort achieved precisely - fuck all.

Hopefully he'll go senile so he won't be consumed with regret at all that irreplaceable time he set on fire.

Reflecting back on it..he sure knew how to get under ones skin. He has the honor of being the first person I ignored on this forum. People seriously baffle me at times..

Yes, he could have spent all that time taking online surveys and invested the money in Bitcoin and been a millionaire by now. I hope sound money brings so much prosperity we cure senility and he has to live his whole life in lucid clarity at how bad he fucked up.  >:(A bit mean, sure, but he is one of the few nocoiners that really deserves to suffer.
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May 30, 2019, 07:42:31 PM

Is this despair?

https://www.tradingview.com/chart/BLX/Ry8aWuoY-Bitcoin-Market-Cycle-Final-Leg/
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May 30, 2019, 07:43:11 PM


I don't buy the "new money" argument.

Have you heard Tom Luongo's latest commentary on that subject ? I think it's very interesting and analytical. Will drop you in at the interesting bit but the whole thing is worth listening to IMO.



i'll take a look tonight.  thanks

16:30 he shares his instincts on what's happening w/ Bitcoin which may resonate with some.

Just watched it,  he talks of Fib,  which is what i use more than anything else.  

Now hes saying 10 to 11k then a big correction,  I think it's already upon us when we hit 9100.  time will tell.  

since passing 6666 we had 10 red and 10 green days. the green days were obviously stronger, that could change
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he still hates on twitter. i used to harass him there before bcash boyz got me banned.

https://twitter.com/JorgeStolfi?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

That geezer mystified me. At certain points he must've been putting in 12 or more hour days on here and on Reddit for weeks and months on end. All that effort achieved precisely - fuck all.

Hopefully he'll go senile so he won't be consumed with regret at all that irreplaceable time he set on fire.

Reflecting back on it..he sure knew how to get under ones skin. He has the honor of being the first person I ignored on this forum. People seriously baffle me at times..

Yes, he could have spent all that time taking online surveys and invested the money in Bitcoin and been a millionaire by now. I hope sound money brings so much prosperity we cure senility and he has to live his whole life in lucid clarity at how bad he fucked up.  >:(A bit mean, sure, but he is one of the few nocoiners that really deserves to suffer.

Stolfi was/is a massive bellend.
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Reflecting back on it..he sure knew how to get under ones skin. He has the honor of being the first person I ignored on this forum. People seriously baffle me at times..

You knew perfectly well that he had zero interest in responding to any other reasoning than his own so I completely tuned it out. He was like a telescreen droning to himself in the corner of your living unit in Victory Mansions.


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May 30, 2019, 08:08:49 PM

Well, that $9k didn't last very long, huh ?  Undecided

Not an entirely unexpected dump.

Ahhh, it’s all good Bob. We have to test new highs & suffer expected dumps/corrections on the way up. It’s sll part of the process as you already know Wink

We’ll get there in a couple of years & we’ll laugh at even the thought of a 4 digit priced bitcoin.

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May 30, 2019, 08:27:38 PM

Can anybody tell me how to claim bitcoin sv? Is it from BTC or BTC cash?
I hope you're asking me to get rid of this shit?

Hello WO`s ! Cheesy
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May 30, 2019, 08:32:38 PM

  But all the alts,  surely like the dotcom bubble vast numbers of the alt coins need to die.   It's a world of shit with a few diamonds.  And no gaurantees what coins will survie,  im sure there needs to be a mass cull in the next few years.  

Yeah right.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

A lot of us BTC hodlers wish that a lot of the altcoins will die, and many of us, just like you, recognize that almost all of them are overinflated and scams, but if you are betting your BTC stash on some kind of rationality or some kind of purging of shit that "must happen" then you are failing/refusing to accept a decent amount of the irrational reality of the world in which we live.

In this regard, you may be completely logically correct, but you are ignoring actual momentum and other phenomena that affect BTC prices, beyond logic (and beyond simple one cause explanations).

I just refuse to see the simple path to 50k that everone else it seems to see as quite the easy ride.

Stop misconstruing.  No one is asserting that the path is going to be without corrections, including acknowledging that BTC prices could go down before up.
 

I honestly belive 2020 and the rest of 2019 will be the cull years. where countless coins are wiped out, and I honestly think it needs to happen.  

Sounds like a stretch, but fair enough.  That kind of prediction is not beyond reason, except for the part that such culling "needs to happen," which seems to place too high of a certainty on something that is likely further from certainty than you are making it out to be. 
 
Look at siacoin that i made so much profit on,  it acts as a decentrallised cloud server on the blockchain, pays people to store other peoples encrypted data with fail safes.  Inginious idea, but still sometihing like only 10 terabytes used,  when $150m is invested (or at least the market cap).  thats 5 x $50 2TB harddrives.

Who gives any shits?  We are talking about bitcoin, not your inability to focus... that causes you to buy shit coins (that may have happen to have been profitable for you).
 
If you're correct i will bow down, say sorry you were right,  

What would I have been right about?  I am not asserting anything, except for saying that you seem to be placing too much certainty into outcomes that you would like, which seems to be pretty obviously causing a decent amount of stress upon you.
 
Im not too proud to admit when im wrong.  

Well, you are going to be wrong when you make predictions.. Being wrong comes with the prediction-making territory.
 
But im convinced this pump is a scam, or at least an effort to avoid a long bear market.  I don't buy the "new money" argument.

Well, sure it is possible that this whole upwards price movement that broke above $4,200 on April 1 and has not really significantly corrected for any meaningful amount of time is a fake out or a bull trap...


Seems like a stretch of wishful thinking, and you surely are entitled to having your opinions and speculation about what is going on, even if such scenarios seem a bit far fetched, at least during our current BTC price dynamics - and maybe if BTC prices go below $5k, then I might come to give higher chances to your scenario, but it seems that even now, there is likely to be a decent amount of support between our current price of a bit above $8,400 and $5k.. so it will take a while to get below $5k, if that is where we are going.
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May 30, 2019, 08:37:31 PM

  But all the alts,  surely like the dotcom bubble vast numbers of the alt coins need to die.   It's a world of shit with a few diamonds.  And no gaurantees what coins will survie,  im sure there needs to be a mass cull in the next few years.  

Yeah right.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

A lot of us BTC hodlers wish that a lot of the altcoins will die, and many of us, just like you, recognize that almost all of them are overinflated and scams, but if you are betting your BTC stash on some kind of rationality or some kind of purging of shit that "must happen" then you are failing/refusing to accept a decent amount of the irrational reality of the world in which we live.

In this regard, you may be completely logically correct, but you are ignoring actual momentum and other phenomena that affect BTC prices, beyond logic (and beyond simple one cause explanations).

I just refuse to see the simple path to 50k that everone else it seems to see as quite the easy ride.

Stop misconstruing.  No one is asserting that the path is going to be without corrections, including acknowledging that BTC prices could go down before up.
 

I honestly belive 2020 and the rest of 2019 will be the cull years. where countless coins are wiped out, and I honestly think it needs to happen.  

Sounds like a stretch, but fair enough.  That kind of prediction is not beyond reason, except for the part that such culling "needs to happen," which seems to place too high of a certainty on something that is likely further from certainty than you are making it out to be. 
 
Look at siacoin that i made so much profit on,  it acts as a decentrallised cloud server on the blockchain, pays people to store other peoples encrypted data with fail safes.  Inginious idea, but still sometihing like only 10 terabytes used,  when $150m is invested (or at least the market cap).  thats 5 x $50 2TB harddrives.

Who gives any shits?  We are talking about bitcoin, not your inability to focus... that causes you to buy shit coins (that may have happen to have been profitable for you).
 
If you're correct i will bow down, say sorry you were right,  

What would I have been right about?  I am not asserting anything, except for saying that you seem to be placing too much certainty into outcomes that you would like, which seems to be pretty obviously causing a decent amount of stress upon you.
 
Im not too proud to admit when im wrong.  

Well, you are going to be wrong when you make predictions.. Being wrong comes with the prediction-making territory.
 
But im convinced this pump is a scam, or at least an effort to avoid a long bear market.  I don't buy the "new money" argument.

Well, sure it is possible that this whole upwards price movement that broke above $4,200 on April 1 and has not really significantly corrected for any meaningful amount of time is a fake out or a bull trap...


Seems like a stretch of wishful thinking, and you surely are entitled to having your opinions and speculation about what is going on, even if such scenarios seem a bit far fetched, at least during our current BTC price dynamics - and maybe if BTC prices go below $5k, then I might come to give higher chances to your scenario, but it seems that even now, there is likely to be a decent amount of support between our current price of a bit above $8,400 and $5k.. so it will take a while to get below $5k, if that is where we are going.

is it just me or does it feel like several paragraphs are missing?

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May 30, 2019, 08:42:36 PM

Since 2017, I've been following these famous filbfilb charts;
https://www.tradingview.com/chart/BLX/W5wwj74c-Bitcoin-Long-Term-Trend-Analysis-A-near-term-clue-BLX-Update/
https://www.tradingview.com/chart/BLX/LGfs4PUa-Bitcoin-A-Long-Tern-Market-Analysis/

I don't remember where I got that one from, but this might be the better version of filbfilb's TA:


https://www.tradingview.com/script/xdPkShYr-Bitcoin-non-linear-regression-curve-REAL/
This was NOT drawn by hand. This was calculated based on btc prices from 2010 to 2018. More than 60 different equations were tested and refined and ranked. This one is the best.
just got all the price historical price action, normalized, ran through a series of tests to find the best curve that fits. Then, got the formula and created the script using it in pine script

Looks like $40k might be the next ATH, $50k at best. Care to take a look and tell me what you think? Is he too conservative? Or realistic?

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