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May 14, 2021, 05:08:32 AM

Its a shame that an egoistic, megalomaniac and self-serving individual is able to crash the crypto market at will, with a single tweet. When will people realize that Bitcoin is a store of value in itself and doesn't need validation by anyone! Right now its looking like people like Musk can play with the crypto markets at will and make a killing by buying low after crashing the market.

Nobody can Kill Bitcoin it was created to live for ever.

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May 14, 2021, 05:35:08 AM

we'll be getting to that million $ coin within the next decade for sure.

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I get it, you don't like ETH. I don't like it either. 

Sure, I do not like Eth, but largely in my earlier posts, I was badgering you about ETH and/or other shitcoins not being relevant to this thread, and your failure/refusal to bash them when you are talking about them makes matters worse in terms of your seeming to support them.,. which also seems to be quite irrelevant to this thread, even if it is something that you do to get more bitcoin or dollars.. but whatever... I already made my points in my earlier posts.. but you seem to continue to want to post about shitcoins in this thread.

I am starting to feel dirty by talking about these pieces of shit so much in this thread.. sorry guys, but jesus fucking christ, why are supposed bitcoiners wanting to ongoingly present shitcoins in this thread and engaging in ongoing slippery-slope posting behaviors by suggesting that they are "legit" or that they have some kind of positive attributions (or contributions) in any way? .. fuck that.

You can stop talking about them, or stop reading them, or maybe even "ignoring" them, (but I would not do that personally), if you really don't like shitcoins.


Yes, I could.. but I am not going to.

There are many things in life that cause me feel to feel dirty, uncomfortable or unpleasant from time to time, but I exercise my discretion regarding how to approach such matters when or if they come up.

I am glad to be alive and to be able to make such decisions.


I am merely talking about them from the perspective of an escrow who was asked to assist in the ICO of such coins, and I have done a fair share of them.

Since when was this thread about escrow or the dilemmas that might come from being involved in escrow decisions?

Hundreds of people send me BTC, the coin gets launched, I help distribute the premined allocation according to the contributions, all done with spreadsheets and math or sometimes semi-automated, and that's how "we" (the escrows and the rest of the community) defined "legit" back then.

Well, I am glad that all worked out for you.

There were coins that were complete vaporware, or never launched but collected BTC.. Obviously those are not "legit".

So maybe we differ in definition of what "legit" is or was, and I completely understand your frustration about the whole thing. If it's not bitcoin, it is most likely not "legit", and I'm fine with that.

Seems like we might have differing ways of presenting ideas of legit, which seems to have motivated me to respond to your earlier framing of such "legit" categorizations.


Your failing to acknowledge the existing of shitcoins (and you know they are out there, even if you believe their true value is zero) is getting you all worked up having a discussion about them.

I doubt that it is getting me worked up, even if you would like to project such emotions upon me.

I will admit that recently, I had some conversations in real life that devolved in the other person (actually no coiners purportedly contemplating the potential of becoming coiners) who seemed to not know too much about bitcoin but bringing up other cryptos - and doge coin was surely mentioned in prominent kinds of ways.. so that was a bit irritating, and I doubt that I am failing to "acknowledge the existence" of such shitcoins, even though it seems quite problematic to be continuously trying to derail this thread in such direction, even while you are continuing to "see nothing wrong with that" blah blah blah.


I do know the value of bitcoin,

Your actions and your posts frequently seem to undermine such supposed knowledge of such.

but you think I do not because I mention the supposed value of other shitcoins or altcoins.

Sure.. it could just be that you are either stubborn or have an inability to try to stay topical in this thread.

It is not me giving them value either, but the market.

And......? So what?  You seem to be misreading me if you believe that I conclude that shitcoins do not have any value, even if I conclude that bring them up in this thread is NOT topical and it tends to cost way more than any benefit that it brings, including the fact that you are more than free to talk about all the shitcoins that you love and their supposed value in some other thread in the forum.  Are there forum threads for that? and even if you don't use the forum, there are likely other social media locations too, such as twitter and reddit and likely other places to talk about such irrelevant (to this thread) nonsense.

Sometimes it seems like we might be thinking like the bankers, not giving "intrinsic value" to bitcoin, because that's how they think, when talking about shitcoins.

Oh gawd!!!   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

first of all you presume that I don't believe that shitcoins have value and then you make some other kind of nonsense assertion attempting to make an analogy.. Did I wake up in a parallel universe?  help... help.


I simply keep an open mind,

Nobody is stopping you from "keeping an open mind" - just go do it somewhere else.   

 Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

without assigning value to them from me. You seem to insist that keeping an open mind about shitcoins is a failure.

Yes.. its a failure to either stay on topic or to respect the wishes of consensual matters of mostly staying away from shitcoins in this thread..except to either bash them or to make some bitcoin related observation that mostly would not be construed as pumping such baloney or ideas about supposed value that they might have (in theory).

And for that, I'll probably accept it. As failure eventually leads to success somehow, and knowing how to get up when you fall is better than not falling at all, because we learn.

Of course, this should be a place that allows for learning, but get the fuck out of here with wanting to bring up irrelevant and bullshit shitcoins.. .. why do I feel as if I might be repeating my lil selfie?

 Cry Cry Cry Cry


It's nice to think we don't have to fall tho, but that rarely happens.

Yes, lots of us make mistakes in life..and sometimes we learn and other times it takes longer to learn... and surely sometimes we don't learn too, so there are a lot of variations of what might happen whether it is falling or making some other kinds of mistakes.. and hopefully such discussions are mostly involving bitcoin, even while other topics are surely tolerated and accepted in this thread as long as you are not devolving into shitcoin pumping or some other kind of shill pumping posts... which largely tend to be irritating rather than anything that members might want to discuss in this here thread.. .seems to me.
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May 14, 2021, 05:47:16 AM

read on twatter:

Very strong holders = the Rick Astleys of this world.

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May 14, 2021, 06:08:43 AM

a 3 million dollars BTC in 2025 seems lovely (especially for someone like me with a small stash) however I fear it would mostly mean the dollar is worthless by then. Not in a "but it's already worthless" kind of way, but as in "you need stacks of 1000$ bills to buy a baguette".

To me, you seem to be overly pessimistic in terms of the extent to which BTC prices might end up being inflated ONLY because the dollar is losing value in exponential kinds of ways.. which harldy seems to be a condition precedent for BTC prices to rise, whether we are looking at BTC's historical price performance, or it likely future price performance..

But let's just say if BTC went up 60x from here (at $50k-ish) to $3million, then I doubt that baguettes, for example, would end up going up even 2x to 5x in their dollar price.. but even in a kind of worser case scenario if baguettes ended up going up 20x.. you would still be 3x better with holding your value in BTC rather than in baguettes.. which is surely bearish about bitcoin to consider that it is ONLY going to 3x in comparison to the dollar..

In any event, when projecting the price of any assets, goods or services, it does not seem too likely to increase in price nearly as much as bitcoin ends up going up in value..,.

Given the $3million bitcoin scenario by 2025.. which also may well NOT end up being a stable bitcoin price but instead a peak BTC price and a subsequent drop into $1million or something like that could end up happening subsequently, perhaps?  if such a BTC price performance dynamic were to play out within only 4-5 more years-ish from now, then surely there could be a decent amount of volatility to get from our current $50k-ish price to 60x.. which would be $3 million.

Of course, a variety of measuring of the value of assets, goods and services would be important, and surely even with the dollar, we know that assets, goods and services do not increase in price at the same rate, so surely if some popping of bubbles do end up taking place, then there could end up being some returns to more fair valuations of assets, goods and services too.. and to suggest that bitcoin might help to address some of these matters, even if it does not end up completely fixing such a problematic matter of sometimes floating valuations and sometimes attempts to control valuations of such assets, goods and services.

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Obviosuly you never heard of Bitmex. Does the word "Bart" mean anything to you.

Of course, I have heard quite a bit about Bitmex and yes, i have heard of bart and reverse bart, and other sometimes existing chart patterns that may have come about from time to time in bitcoin's history... and possible future, too.....so whatever you are suggesting to be supposedly "obvious" regarding your supposed slam-dunk rebuttal of my earlier post seems to be more conclusionary than getting anywhere in discussion of points raised therein..

Oh f*ck what a screwed up day Roll Eyes,
coinbase announcing listing of Douche coin *pun intended* so this is what will pump up the crypto markets? Tongue
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Kill me now.

I like that.. "kill me now."..

"devs"

If you do not insert a pic, nobody is going to understand your post.

#justsaying
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Which dev?

Dodge market cap went up with $10B after this tweet.

Blocked this idiot i don't care anymore.

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Dodge market cap went up with $10B after this tweet.

Blocked this idiot i don't care anymore.



I still got the feeling Elon is just hyping this and then dump everything he got. Why would he ever invest money and time in a meme coin  Huh
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May 14, 2021, 06:52:05 AM

Elon probably has a plan. We will find out. Or not.

Back in the real world, you’d be bitch slapped if flip flopping like that.

Elon is irrelevant now.
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Which dev?

Dodge market cap went up with $10B after this tweet.

Blocked this idiot i don't care anymore.

So it’s officially Elon vs BTC now...Huh
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Which dev?

Dodge market cap went up with $10B after this tweet.

Blocked this idiot i don't care anymore.

So it’s officially Elon vs BTC now...Huh

Elon does not officially have a coin but who knows he must have grabbed a ton of doge in the recent past.

So now its a game of being on the top of the coinmarketcap between Vitalik (Eth), CZ (Bnb) and Elon (Doge).  No matter how much they try, they can't beat the invisible Satoshi (Bitcoin) . Smiley
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Which dev?

Dodge market cap went up with $10B after this tweet.

Blocked this idiot i don't care anymore.



The Dev's name is Jimmy Jackass. His fee is 2 pizzas or 10,000 Doge.
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Which dev?

Dodge market cap went up with $10B after this tweet.

Blocked this idiot i don't care anymore.

So it’s officially Elon vs BTC now...Huh

Elon does not officially have a coin but who knows he must have grabbed a ton of doge in the recent past.

So now its a game of being on the top of the coinmarketcap between Vitalik (Eth), CZ (Bnb) and Elon (Doge).  No matter how much they try, they can't beat the invisible Satoshi (Bitcoin) . Smiley

All centralised bollocks with these problems:

  • Eth - A complete mess of legacy code (from what I've heard), high gas fees
  • Bnb - Can't even keep his Binance Smart Chain from breaking. The likes of Pancakeswap runs on it and is falling on its ass because of it. Binance probably tries to do too much and too many different things. Historically that never works out well.
  • Doge - Crazy inflation, no active dev community as has been pointed out. Now has a shiller in charge who is "working with them".
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https://twitter.com/EmperorBTC/status/1393097091610681348
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Told ya:

That dude is all talk. People should stop kissing his ass.
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May 14, 2021, 08:46:35 AM

If you guys want to ignore the troll from that small battery car maker: why is he mentioned in all of the posts on this page?
Don't feed the troll!
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If you guys want to ignore the troll from that small battery car maker: why is he mentioned in all of the posts on this page?
Don't feed the troll!

He makes funny faces and pretends to smoke weed. How can we not talk about him?

Also, seems I just donated to the Indian Corona relief fund. Or rather my memecoin addiction did. Im ok with it.
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Come on Bitcoin, show them who's boss.
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JohnBitCo,

That's my index indicator for fiat currencies and the traditional reserve/banking system printing money, in comparison Bitcoin is solid ground.
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Which dev?

Dodge market cap went up with $10B after this tweet.

Blocked this idiot i don't care anymore.

So it’s officially Elon vs BTC now...Huh

Elon does not officially have a coin but who knows he must have grabbed a ton of doge in the recent past.

So now its a game of being on the top of the coinmarketcap between Vitalik (Eth), CZ (Bnb) and Elon (Doge).  No matter how much they try, they can't beat the invisible Satoshi (Bitcoin) . Smiley


Doge getting new face now ?

this is fun - but no finance

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