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Right on cue!   Make it happen ChartBuddy!!!
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July 31, 2021, 01:28:32 AM

If Cathie Wood says Bitcoin is going up to $500K, you would be wise to listen. She’s got the fundraising ability to drive that price or near it with her investment funds and influence. Between her saying 500 and Michael Saylor saying he’ll buy forever, my $200K prediction is starting to feel mild by comparison.
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July 31, 2021, 02:15:54 AM

My goodness, all my favorite legends on the same page (in a literal sense that is.... not necessarily a rhetorical one).
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OMG "covid is not real" people... do they still exist?  Grin

You wish. The "the PCR tests need to be set to 20 cycles so as not to give false positives if they're anywhere over 30 while the FDA was recommending 40 cycles" people do exist.

The..."yes, the flu still exists" people do exist.

The..."just because you had a positive test for COVID or the flu labeled as COVID a month before you died does not necessarily mean you 'died of COVID', especially when they found that 85% of people who 'died from COVID' had 2 or more comorbidities" people do exist.

But don't let me get in your way...we're just all conspiracy theorists thinking that it's 5G microchips. Go on with your day. Get back to your MSM so you can be frightened by what is likely mostly the flu with some people getting COVID while the "Delta" variant is just reactions to the vaccine that the CDC is not allowing doctors to report (fact).

Get your booster shots every 2 weeks so you can live in society and blame the "pandemic" on "unvaccinated" people who have been vaccinated at least once in their lives but are just not vaccinated to your vaccine standards (be careful, if you miss a jab you may fall into the category of "unvaxxed" and need to walk in the gutters to protect those on the sidewalks from breathing in your air).

OK evidently PCR positivity has been pushed excessively by using too high number of cycles, and it probably plays a role in flu vanishing.
I don't like much this technique with doubts on specificity in several cases, for using it in the past.
This technical defect is greatly amplified by "state social engineering"...
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July 31, 2021, 03:39:38 AM

Buddy keep kissing that 42k line.
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July 31, 2021, 04:15:18 AM

go buddy stretch us up and over 44,444.44 by sat morning.

Its bed 🛏 time for me.
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Do you (suchmoon) believe that we are that gullible in this here thread?

No, not at all. It's not like we believe that hats and memes can move the price of a trillion dollar asset or anything silly like that.

Exactly.

Do you (suchmoon) believe that we are that gullible in this here thread?

No, not at all. It's not like we believe that hats and memes can move the price of a trillion dollar asset or anything silly like that.

Yelling at ChartBuddy works. I have it down to a science.

In other words, we try all kinds of tactics in this here thread, and we find out that some tactics work and some tactics do not.  We even had the planet bodies guy who lasted a few months proclaiming how great his planet bodies system was... his name was jupiter9 or something like that.

Personally, I have found the easiest of tactics is to predict where CB has been, rather than attempting to predict where it is going..   but we do happen to have something like 3 currently credible BTC price prediction models that should be taken into account if trying to figure out where BTC price might be going.. // and sure, from time to time there has been some loss of confidence in such BTC price prediction models (and I am sure that there are some folks who purposefully distract in terms of causing some HODLers (especially newbies) to believe that some other more doom and gloom (fairy dust - or lame ass attempts at reinventing the wheel... (wanting to get credit for novelty) blah blah blah) BTC price prediction models are the ones to go by.. but the actual credible BTC price prediction models should be taken into account even when trying to invent some supposed novel variation, from my humble bumble wannabe perspective.

Just to put names to the face the three currently credible BTC price prediction models are 1) stock to flow, 2) 4-year fractal and 3) exponential s-curve adoption based on Metcalfe principles and network effects

I doubt that any or all of those currently credible BTC price prediction models cause the BTC price to go in whatever longer term BTC price direction, but they provide some decent guidelines for describing BTC price dynamics and pressures.. especially in the longer term..and any price sorcerer wannabe should be attempting to account for those matters.. short term noise and longer term largely following the models with some variance (and surely no guarantees, either.. so it is good to attempt to remain humble bumbles, to the extent possible.. but sometimes difficult when having had gotten richie.. or at least more richie from staying involve in king daddy).

Right on cue!   Make it happen ChartBuddy!!!

Seems that ChartBuddy has been getting a lot of credit for BTC price movements since life was breathed back into him/her/it by frankenstein.  hahahahaha

If Cathie Wood says Bitcoin is going up to $500K, you would be wise to listen. She’s got the fundraising ability to drive that price or near it with her investment funds and influence. Between her saying 500 and Michael Saylor saying he’ll buy forever, my $200K prediction is starting to feel mild by comparison.

Yep.. you are a softie in your sorcery wannabe aspirations, relatively speaking.  I speculate that you may have invented your own model, too?

One thing that I like about willy woo and his attempts at describing his own models, he kind of keeps his targets floating... but if you recall earlier in the year, he did get a bit overly confident in regards to betting that something like mid-$40ks or lower would not be reached in this calendar year, so yeah he was right until he wasn't... but does not make him a bad woo woo kind of a price predictor - and if he considers part of his job to be a price analysts (including selling a news letter), then surely it would not hurt to enter into a few bets along the way... betting can be good for business.
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1)I think they are a clearcut short term solution that would knock this off the map of the world if the world had a 95% vax rate.

2) I think none of us know what the long term effects of this vax will do to our bodies. It will take 10 years to find out.

I don't think so at all. The people who are against the vaccine, at the beginning said that those vaccinated were going to die by the millions. Some of this forum said that too many people were dying already because of the vaccine months ago. A claim that is not supported by the evidence. Now the discourse has changed. Since people are not dying by the millions because of the vaccine they have moved on to saying they will die within 3-5 years.

I looked for information some time ago and the vaccines that have caused problems, historically the negative side effects have appeared within a few days to a few months. I can't find now the article that was detailed with all types of vaccines but this one for example says the same thing:

"History tells us that severe side effects are extremely rare, and if they if do occur, they usually happen within the first two months."

4) Ten years from now I think people will still argue over this. Even thought the math will show a clear cut difference in death rates for the vaxed vs the un vaxed.

I agree, as math already shows nowadays in: Data on impact of vaccination programme and many other scientiphic studies.

I ONLY recently got the vax too, so I am not even suggesting that attempting critical-thinking would cause one outcome or another.

My getting the vax does not cause me some resentment regarding coming across seemingly contradictory information on the topic, and furthermore, I ONLY spent a small amount of time actually reading about the supposed propaganda pieces that are likely short of actual real science.  Maybe some members here gave some better back and forth considerations, but whatever, sometimes personal circumstances are sometimes going to push a guy in one direction or another - in terms of considering how much his life might be inconvenienced by going along and getting along versus engaging in some kind of rebellion or avoidance or some in-between approach to the matter.

Of course, a lot of us already know that we get lied to a lot by the government and also by companies spouting out supposedly objective research results - so of course, those might well be factors to weigh above and beyond merely considering personal health/lifestyle circumstances.

I got the vax too. At the beginning I was also reluctant, and I agree with you that governments lie to us about many things, just like the pharmaceutical companies that seek the maximum economic benefit many times they are in too much of a hurry to bring something to the market and they bring out something harmful: "Johnson & Johnson condemned to pay four billion euros to women with ovarian cancer" Source.

I could put many more examples. I believe that the coronavirus crisis could have been handled differently but it has been done the way it has been done and we cannot go backwards.

In October 2020 the BMJ came out with an article skeptical of vaccines: Will covid-19 vaccines save lives? Current trials aren’t designed to tell us But subsequently, as more trials were made, the BMJ has brought out other articles showing the efficacy and safety of the vaccines. So, although I am skeptical and tend not to trust the government and pharmaceutical companies, I prefer to trust what the growing scientific evidence on the subject says.
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July 31, 2021, 04:39:36 AM

go buddy stretch us up and over 44,444.44 by sat morning.

Its bed 🛏 time for me.

Does not sound unrealistic, even if some hope may be seen within that request... but may have to define "saturday morning".. UTC time?  or some other time zone?

At least you are not saying $70k.. so there might be some progress, perhaps?  perhaps?    Tongue Tongue

I should not give you any ideas.

what do you think?  $70k by October 1st?  I know that I am tempting you when I go down this road.. you wanna do it, don't you?

Some people have become quite a bit more timid in their UPpity BTC price predictions in recent times.. especially by the end of May or so...

By the way, I do see that you have $70k by December 7th in the dude guessing game.. so maybe you have locked ur lil selfie into such a scenario.. and even perhaps taken away some of the charm of your spontaneity (even though you have some decent tendencies to be wrong - while claiming that you were right.. hahahahaha) even though i am thinking that we have pretty good odds that you will be "under" in your December 7 prediction... but what do I know?  I hate to get too overly optimistic either.. we should be taking these matters as they come, no? 

Enjoy while we have UPpity momentum, even if we cannot really be sure how long it will last... .. even though currently, it does feel that we might be in a decently good set up.. especially with the difficulty adjustment just having had gone into effect with a 6% upwards adjustment. ... seems like a potentially bullish set up... perhaps? perhaps?

I am looking at these two websites:

https://www.bitrawr.com/difficulty-estimator

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https://btc.com/stats/diff?_ga=2.166892222.1079250679.1586286038-48233127.1586286038
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July 31, 2021, 05:15:37 AM

And the next candle literally blown. Congratz anyone who followed.
Also, Thanks marcus_of_augustus for merits buddy.

STRONG HIDDEN BULLISH DIVERGENCE. GO LONG! Smiley

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For all those who thought btc is not gonna pump now as a result of any FUD,they might be enjoying their pain and hiding their guilt feelings.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CR1wbU1jR74/?utm_medium=copy_link

This is how btc responds to them even after going down from $64k this year to resist at $29k few days back and now we are at $41k once again as summer birds and dips have migrated to other places.



Bears day dreaming and thinking they have succeeded this time but btc blowing them back with full force and ending up their dreams and low price graph also.


Wake up to two great news today:

1) Bitcoin above $41k again with my investment gone up

2) Becoming a hero member today on the forum.

A memorable day for me but still a long journey to go.
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Wake up to two great news today:

1) Bitcoin above $41k again with my investment gone up

2) Becoming a hero member today on the forum.

A memorable day for me but still a long journey to go.

Congratulations buddy. I am on my goal to reach Hero Member, journey is tough & sweet at the same time.
Let's hope I reach it before Bitcoin reaches $100k haha.
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Wake up to two great news today:

1) Bitcoin above $41k again with my investment gone up

2) Becoming a hero member today on the forum.

A memorable day for me but still a long journey to go.

The first good news is not in your control but the second good news is as a result of your hard work and dedication / contribution to the forum.

Congratulations  Smiley
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Conclusion: I think that at some point almost all will get infected (in the range of 75-90%) and, hopefully, vaccines would help with reducing mortality and serious effects-that's what the main purposes should be anyway, but people would get upset by the fact that current vaccines (even the best) are not as clear-cut as we all hoped them to be.


Either way we will get herd immunity its just whether we do it the easy or the hard way. Smiley

Personally I took the blue pill, if I was younger it might have been the red..


I just read a couple of articles on the subject.
Iceland has almost a 100% vaccination rate, and they are now reinstating covid restrictions because the new variant is spreading fast among the vaccinated.

Those who had covid has a very good protection against all variants, and the immunity seems to be lifelong.
Something about memory cells in the bone marrow, or something like that.
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I don't think so at all. The people who are against the vaccine, at the beginning said that those vaccinated were going to die by the millions. Some of this forum said that too many people were dying already because of the vaccine months ago. A claim that is not supported by the evidence. Now the discourse has changed. Since people are not dying by the millions because of the vaccine they have moved on to saying they will die within 3-5 years.

It's because all the Independent ThinkersTM, do their own researchTM by listening to the same propaganda.

It works really well, because by telling them to criticize the government, they can feel like the rebellious underdog, standing up for suppressed truth.

Unfortunately, their guaranteed predictions never come true, so the next narrative is always ready to be released once defending the previous version of The TruthTM has become untenable. That's why all the Independent ThinkersTM switch narratives at the same time - they're ultimately getting them from just a few sources.

At first we were all going to die from the vax - the narrative just fit too well with the classic "depopulation agenda". Once that didn't materialize, they tried the "be afraid of side effects" route. That one wasn't working too well, since it's too easy to realize that side effects (even excluding death) from COVID are orders of magnitude more likely & more severe than from any of the vax.

Now we shifted to "we will die from the vax later" and "infertility" - narratives which are sufficiently long term that they can be milked for a while before they have to be replaced due to actual reality disproving them.

Hey but on the bright side, with lockdowns and travel restrictions in place, it's really difficult to push the "scary brown migrants will invade and outbreed us" narrative at the moment. But I'm sure it is just standing by to take over once all covid narratives have been exhausted.

We also have the "muh freedom" narrative, which works really well in places such as this forum, extensively populated by self-proclaimed "Libertarians". Because muh freedom is only important when it comes to my personal convenience of not having to wear a mask when shopping or not getting a flu shot. It's always freedom from government, never freedom from corporations. Best represented by the humble grocery store clerk. Fuck that guy's health if it means a mild inconvenience for me. It's his fault for being born poor and unable to find a job that would provide him with basic human dignity. It's not like our system has been deliberately designed to create a Precariat so that a handful of capitalists can exploit it. And you bootlickers will stand up in false class solidarity and defend the right of these villains to exploit the shit out of the world and its people...because hey, maybe one day...YOU will be able to do it, too! Imagine all the bitches & blow!

Besides, if Libertarians were consistent, they'd be Ancaps. If Ancaps had a soul, they'd be Actual Anarchists..

Imagine doing the opposite of what the gov tells you and calling yourself a free thinker based on that. It's fucking embarrassing. There is no plandemic. There are oligarchs exploiting your gullible pride for profit and laughing all the way to the bank (which they own).

On a BTC forum, one would expect to find people questioning all authority. But apparently not.

Normally, I would laugh this off and ignore it but this particular type of idiocy has become so pervasive, so widespread that I now have to cope with idiots talking about 1984 (which they haven't read, nor understood) on a daily basis with no end in sight.
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