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January 11, 2015, 10:00:30 PM

Can you seriously imagine bitcoin not succeeding?

That's impossible, considering how much it is needed. It's time to get back at the big banks.

Listen to Max Kaiser, he knows what's up

7 billion outside of this forum don't agree with you that it's needed. Keep that in mind when you wonder if Bitcoin could fail.

You just don't know what 7 billion people are each thinking. I like the animated GIFs better.

Seeing how it gets more tiny by the day after 6 years it certainly isn't Bitcoin.

We simply don't know. The rest is just guessing.
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January 11, 2015, 10:01:32 PM

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I try to maintain a balanced outlook, but permabears can be so ridiculous I have to laugh at them.

If permabulls were anywhere near as foolish, I'd laugh at them too.

This old chestnut again?

I'll say the same as I did 6 months ago or a month ago.

We'll probably reach our old ATH by mid summer, and hit anywhere from $7000 to $12,000 before crashing down to $2000-$2500, possibly before year's end.

We should be above $10,000 for good by this time next year.

Unless something comes along to break Bitcoin before then.
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January 11, 2015, 10:03:03 PM

That said this is probably just a nasty bear market ...

That's all there is. Bitcoin does not get support from central banks or large parties with big coffers. It's like the short lived depression in 1921: all pain comes out very quickly, cleaning up the excesses and making room for the future entrepreneurs. Nothing changed for Bitcoin, only the price.
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January 11, 2015, 10:03:33 PM

My pastor told me today he was tempted to sell the church's 30 bitcoins, but I convinced him to wait. As I discussed in a different web chat on this message board, I believe Jesus is testing our faith in Him. I have faith in bitcoin and believe God will shower us with the bounty of its riches once the negative energy is finally cleaned out of the system. For that to happen, we may need to drop in value a little more first.

MAT 21:12: "Jesus hacked into the exchange and wiped out all who were buying and selling there. He deleted the tables of the fiat changers and the order books of those selling bitcoin futures."

MRK 10:25: "It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for an early adopter to enter the kingdom of God."

EDIT: Rats, @NotHatinJustTrollin bet me to it (by some 5 pages at that).
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January 11, 2015, 10:03:48 PM

How do I feel? Far from stupid. Bitcoin has been good to me.

On top of the backs of all the suckers people like you convinced to spend waste money on it with the TO DA MOON and "CHEAP COINZ" posts, right?

I didn't join the forum and start posting until long after I'd made the bulk of my Bitcoin profits.

You sound butthurt because you missed the boat. Don't worry, you'll probably get another chance.

I try to maintain a balanced outlook, but permabears can be so ridiculous I have to laugh at them.

If permabulls were anywhere near as foolish, I'd laugh at them too.

I got incredibly lucky to get in at $5-$10, actually, and it wasn't as an investment but rather that I did have a use for it at the time, so no, very little butthurt here.

I'll tell you though, I'd be very butthurt if I had listened to permabulls when the price was $900. The incredibly bullish sentiment was terrifying to a rational observer, of which there didn't seem to be many posting around here at that time (probably too afraid of getting harassed by psychobulls on a rampage with their calls for 1 million per coin).
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January 11, 2015, 10:06:00 PM

I'll tell you though, I'd be very butthurt if I had listened to permabulls when the price was $900. The incredibly bullish sentiment was terrifying to a rational observer, of which there didn't seem to be many posting around here at that time (probably too afraid of getting harassed by psychobulls on a rampage with their calls for 1 million per coin).

I think you might agree that the sentiment on this forum has changed somewhat in the other direction now. Now it is psycho doomer bear trolls infesting the forum.
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January 11, 2015, 10:08:34 PM

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One minor difference:  Bears have been consistently right, while bulls have been ...not so much Cheesy
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January 11, 2015, 10:10:20 PM

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I try to maintain a balanced outlook, but permabears can be so ridiculous I have to laugh at them.

If permabulls were anywhere near as foolish, I'd laugh at them too.

This old chestnut again?

I'll say the same as I did 6 months ago or a month ago.

We'll probably reach our old ATH by mid summer, and hit anywhere from $7000 to $12,000 before crashing down to $2000-$2500, possibly before year's end.

We should be above $10,000 for good by this time next year.

Unless something comes along to break Bitcoin before then.

Was this book talk?
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January 11, 2015, 10:10:52 PM

I'll tell you though, I'd be very butthurt if I had listened to permabulls when the price was $900. The incredibly bullish sentiment was terrifying to a rational observer, of which there didn't seem to be many posting around here at that time (probably too afraid of getting harassed by psychobulls on a rampage with their calls for 1 million per coin).

I think you might agree that the sentiment on this forum has changed somewhat in the other direction now. Now it is psycho doomer bear trolls infesting the forum.

Compared to then? Can't argue with that. From a neutral standpoint, I'm conflicted, because on one hand, the sentiment is more bearish, but on the other, we still have some people talking about 10k per coin.

For that matter, you can't trade on sentiment alone, it's got to be combined with other factors.
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January 11, 2015, 10:12:17 PM

I think what this thread needs is a maybe 20 or 30 more trolls and their sock puppet accounts..... I do not think there are enough trolls on here... what this thread needs is more of them,  more of the people that hate bitcoin samaritans losers with no life mentally ill obvious is obvious paid shills on here... so please step it up.... by several orders of magnitude... I am not sure you have spread enough shit around yet.... come on.. have more "lels" or whatever you deficient freaks are calling it... please do... it is fucking hilarious, and you know it is like watching a group of 10 schizophrenics in one of those halls of crazy mirrors all barking at each other and chucking their feces at each other and eating it.. basically... the lunatics are on the grass.  Come on... ramp it up some more... please do, we need more of you I have decided... at least if you are here wasting your lives 24/7, 365 then you are not out here in the real world.. and I like the thoughts of you guys wasting your lives, sedentary, keyboard warriors, just wating for obesity and heart attacks to shuffle you off this mortal coil.. I really do..  please waste your lives posting basically all day and night every day of the week even over Christmas (ha ha ha ha sad lonely fuckers)   but as keyboard warriors make sure you have ample wrist support and do some screen cover for your eyes and also do some exercises to prevent the deep vein thrombosis, because when it comes it would be much more, how is it you phrase it "lel" if it is a massive heart attack that takes you, and you shit and piss yourselves.

Love you gays, please do step up your efforts, if I see x 20 or 30 more activity and troll presence to this thread, I will start handing out beers.
Those beers may be attached to bricks and more thrown, than handed but hey lets not split hairs.

Looking forward to the insane troll circle jerk freak show...

thanks.
 
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January 11, 2015, 10:13:43 PM

The majority of bulls have made a lot of money

Tell that to the folks who bought in at 400+. Given how high the price went, I would think they would make up a decent percentage of the bulls (especially if they're still holding), no?

Well i was late to the party and i bought most of my coins in march/april 2013. I am still in the green despite buying in 2014. I was massively better off from this particular punt last year but that is life Smiley

Whoever is driving the price down week after week knows exactly what they are doing. If it is miners then it is not in their interests to destroy the very commodity they are mining by crashing the price. Miners sell for income. It is exactly the wrong way to sell your coins in that context to dump thousands of coins on exchanges every few days and by doing so reduce the price for your next sale.  

My only real concern has been our friends in the central banks. Bitcoin would be the only market they werent directly manipulating if they are not involved already. Could they destroy bitcoin? Dropping the price aggressively would be a great strategy. We already have some features of the gold market rigging in bitcoin - price moving sharply downwards on good news for example. The best way to dissuade new entrants to the market is to keep the price incredibly volatile and prevent it from rising.

That said this is probably just a nasty bear market with a few greedy speculators with total control of the market. Eventually it will be more profitable for the price to rise again.

Why all the conspiracy theories...is it possible that there are simply more sellers than there are buyers?

Why is that when Bitcoin does something strange they attribute it manipulation?

Maybe Bitcoin is supposed to be this way?
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January 11, 2015, 10:14:16 PM

I think we will break $255 pretty soon but should have a bounce to $280-$285 maybe $290 before we go lower
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January 11, 2015, 10:14:23 PM

Lol @ empowering.

Brutal but true & had to be said.

Bravo.
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January 11, 2015, 10:16:03 PM

permabulls gonna permasell

And permabears gonna permaFUD.


haha, how do you as a perma-bull feel? must feel stupid right now? Cheesy

LOL Perma-bull?

Was I a perma-bull when I sold at $155?

To tell the truth, I felt more bullish when I bought back at $97.

How do I feel? Far from stupid. Bitcoin has been good to me.

troll comments seem to be based on trading in shorter time frames, those holding for 5 years must be deemed with a master of your domain title.
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January 11, 2015, 10:17:28 PM

I think what this thread needs is a maybe 20 or 30 more trolls and their sock puppet accounts..... I do not think there are enough trolls on here... what this thread needs is more of them,  more of the people that hate bitcoin samaritans losers with no life mentally ill obvious is obvious paid shills on here... so please step it up.... by several orders of magnitude... I am not sure you have spread enough shit around yet.... come on.. have more "lels" or whatever you deficient freaks are calling it... please do... it is fucking hilarious, and you know it is like watching a group of 10 schizophrenics in one of those halls of crazy mirrors all barking at each other and chucking their feces at each other and eating it.. basically... the lunatics are on the grass.  Come on... ramp it up some more... please do, we need more of you I have decided... at least if you are here wasting your lives 24/7, 365 then you are not out here in the real world.. and I like the thoughts of you guys wasting your lives, sedentary, keyboard warriors, just wating for obesity and heart attacks to shuffle you off this mortal coil.. I really do..  please waste your lives posting basically all day and night every day of the week even over Christmas (ha ha ha ha sad lonely fuckers)   but as keyboard warriors make sure you have ample wrist support and do some screen cover for your eyes and also do some exercises to prevent the deep vein thrombosis, because when it comes it would be much more, how is it you phrase it "lel" if it is a massive heart attack that takes you, and you shit and piss your selves.

Love you gays, please do step up your efforts, if I see x 20 or 30 more activity and troll presence to this thread, I will start handing out beers.
Those beers maybe attached to bricks and more thrown, than handed but hey lets not split hairs.

Looking forward to the insane troll circle jerk freak show...

thanks.
 
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January 11, 2015, 10:20:26 PM

I think what this thread needs is a maybe 20 or 30 more trolls and their sock puppet accounts..... I do not think there are enough trolls on here... what this thread needs is more of them,  more of the people that hate bitcoin samaritans losers with no life mentally ill obvious is obvious paid shills on here... so please step it up.... by several orders of magnitude... I am not sure you have spread enough shit around yet.... come on.. have more "lels" or whatever you deficient freaks are calling it... please do... it is fucking hilarious, and you know it is like watching a group of 10 schizophrenics in one of those halls of crazy mirrors all barking at each other and chucking their feces at each other and eating it.. basically... the lunatics are on the grass.  Come on... ramp it up some more... please do, we need more of you I have decided... at least if you are here wasting your lives 24/7, 365 then you are not out here in the real world.. and I like the thoughts of you guys wasting your lives, sedentary, keyboard warriors, just wating for obesity and heart attacks to shuffle you off this mortal coil.. I really do..  please waste your lives posting basically all day and nighht every day of the week even over Christmas (ha ha ha ha sad lonely fuckers)   but as keyboard warriors make sure you have ample wrist support and do some screen cover for your eyes and also do some exercises to prevent the deep vein thrombosis, because when it comes it would be much more, how is it you phrase it "lel" if it is a massive heart attack that takes you, and you shit and piss your selves.

Love you gays, please do step up your efforts, if I see x 20 or 30 more activity and troll presence to this thread, I will start handing out beers.
Those beers maybe attached to bricks and more thrown, than handed but hey lets not split hairs.

Looking forward to the insane troll circle jerk freak show...

thanks.
 

Ok fair enough...its a freak show.

But it doesn't mean everyone on here doesn't have a real life...some of us do.

And not everyone who thinks that what is happening with BTC is a bad thing...some of us are waiting watching and learning.

At the end of the day...everyone on here thinks BTC is a good thing and that it will survive whatever gets thrown at it.

It just may not do it the way everyone thinks it is supposed too do it.

BTC is not fiat!!!
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Last edit: January 11, 2015, 10:37:30 PM by empowering

I think what this thread needs is a maybe 20 or 30 more trolls and their sock puppet accounts..... I do not think there are enough trolls on here... what this thread needs is more of them,  more of the people that hate bitcoin samaritans losers with no life mentally ill obvious is obvious paid shills on here... so please step it up.... by several orders of magnitude... I am not sure you have spread enough shit around yet.... come on.. have more "lels" or whatever you deficient freaks are calling it... please do... it is fucking hilarious, and you know it is like watching a group of 10 schizophrenics in one of those halls of crazy mirrors all barking at each other and chucking their feces at each other and eating it.. basically... the lunatics are on the grass.  Come on... ramp it up some more... please do, we need more of you I have decided... at least if you are here wasting your lives 24/7, 365 then you are not out here in the real world.. and I like the thoughts of you guys wasting your lives, sedentary, keyboard warriors, just wating for obesity and heart attacks to shuffle you off this mortal coil.. I really do..  please waste your lives posting basically all day and nighht every day of the week even over Christmas (ha ha ha ha sad lonely fuckers)   but as keyboard warriors make sure you have ample wrist support and do some screen cover for your eyes and also do some exercises to prevent the deep vein thrombosis, because when it comes it would be much more, how is it you phrase it "lel" if it is a massive heart attack that takes you, and you shit and piss your selves.

Love you gays, please do step up your efforts, if I see x 20 or 30 more activity and troll presence to this thread, I will start handing out beers.
Those beers maybe attached to bricks and more thrown, than handed but hey lets not split hairs.

Looking forward to the insane troll circle jerk freak show...

thanks.
 

Ok fair enough...its a freak show.

But it doesn't mean everyone on here doesn't have a real life...some of us do.

And not everyone who thinks that what is happening with BTC is a bad thing...some of us are waiting watching and learning.

At the end of the day...everyone on here thinks BTC is a good thing and that it will survive whatever gets thrown at it.

It just may not do it the way everyone thinks it is supposed too do it.

BTC is not fiat!!!

I was not aware you were one of the prolific sockpuppet.troll accounts that posts on here 24/7 everyday.

(i.e I am talking to the freakshow 24/7 troll brigade, the sedentary fuckers with no lives, the sad sitting corpses in waiting that even could not stop themselves during thanksgiving, christmas, new years... you know the really SPECIAL ones...)


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January 11, 2015, 10:23:54 PM

I think what this thread needs is a maybe 20 or 30 more trolls and their sock puppet accounts...

TL;DR: I'm an emotionally compromised tweeny girl.

No need to get upset, sweety.
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I think what this thread needs is a maybe 20 or 30 more trolls and their sock puppet accounts..... I do not think there are enough trolls on here... what this thread needs is more of them,  more of the people that hate bitcoin samaritans losers with no life mentally ill obvious is obvious paid shills on here... so please step it up.... by several orders of magnitude... I am not sure you have spread enough shit around yet.... come on.. have more "lels" or whatever you deficient freaks are calling it... please do... it is fucking hilarious, and you know it is like watching a group of 10 schizophrenics in one of those halls of crazy mirrors all barking at each other and chucking their feces at each other and eating it.. basically... the lunatics are on the grass.  Come on... ramp it up some more... please do, we need more of you I have decided... at least if you are here wasting your lives 24/7, 365 then you are not out here in the real world.. and I like the thoughts of you guys wasting your lives, sedentary, keyboard warriors, just wating for obesity and heart attacks to shuffle you off this mortal coil.. I really do..  please waste your lives posting basically all day and nighht every day of the week even over Christmas (ha ha ha ha sad lonely fuckers)   but as keyboard warriors make sure you have ample wrist support and do some screen cover for your eyes and also do some exercises to prevent the deep vein thrombosis, because when it comes it would be much more, how is it you phrase it "lel" if it is a massive heart attack that takes you, and you shit and piss your selves.

Love you gays, please do step up your efforts, if I see x 20 or 30 more activity and troll presence to this thread, I will start handing out beers.
Those beers maybe attached to bricks and more thrown, than handed but hey lets not split hairs.

Looking forward to the insane troll circle jerk freak show...

thanks.
 

Ok fair enough...its a freak show.

But it doesn't mean everyone on here doesn't have a real life...some of us do.

And not everyone who thinks that what is happening with BTC is a bad thing...some of us are waiting watching and learning.

At the end of the day...everyone on here thinks BTC is a good thing and that it will survive whatever gets thrown at it.

It just may not do it the way everyone thinks it is supposed too do it.

BTC is not fiat!!!

I was not aware you were one of the prolific sockpuppet.troll accounts that posts on here 24/7 everyday

lol...I will take that as a compliment.
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