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January 21, 2016, 10:50:40 PM

And I thought this thread was about the price of coin not about who has bigger internet shlong  Roll Eyes
LOL sometimes this thread has the most humorous things I have ever seen.
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January 21, 2016, 10:52:06 PM

^Some folks r slow 2 catch on.
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January 21, 2016, 11:02:35 PM


In the case where a country is at war the government can commander any private property it wants, and there's nothing the owner can do to stop it. The government can commandeer your house, your car, or the iron railings outside your house to make shells out of. The government decides whether you still own something when it's at war, and will use force to take it off you if you resist.

Yes and a gunman can demand "either your money or your life", but that doesn't make the action morally legitimate or make you immoral for claiming that you don't have any money even if you do. You will resists if you wish or submit if you don't want to, but the right to resist is yours whether you exercise it or not. Paradoxically, most highwaymen understand this better than governments do. At least they don't usually claim moral sanction of their actions. Exercising your right may cost you your life, but some choose to die free rather than living unfree. That's actually common. Animals in captivity often live longer than animals in the wild. It's a quality of life issue, and the freedom many of us enjoy today is a result of others choosing quality over quantity of life.

People who don't love freedom don't really understand those of us who do. They don't get why we risked so much to create the Bitcoin market in the first place.  It shouldn't work, according to them. But it does and it will, even if it is co-opted by others. We have the protocol, and we can build it again if this instance fails. You can't disinvent a technology. Once it's out there, it's out there forever.



 

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January 21, 2016, 11:05:23 PM

And I thought this thread was about the price of coin not about who has bigger internet shlong  Roll Eyes
LOL sometimes this thread has the most humorous things I have ever seen.
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January 21, 2016, 11:11:00 PM

Bitcoin as global currency. Locally regulated and exchanged digital currencies will organically emerge. There's your scalability roadmap.


i am not sure how ?? we are still arguing over scalability.. and the argument has become more complex with more versions of bitcoin.. looks more like a big giant clusterfuk .
You don't need to know how. That's how "organic" works. Bitcoin doesn't need to buy every coffee, nor does anyone really need to use it. The blocksize argument is only a short-term adoption solution. Altcoins are the obvious and most popular solution to adoption overall to date. Exchanges have always and will always take Bitcoin. It's just that simple.

This is a single view that is frankly bizarre, only recently have statements like these become commonplace. Bitcoin was always going to record every transaction.

Bitcoin can't scale for mass adoption, it would crack under the pressure. Even I know that now. Cry

It's like when you realize why your dog has been limping.

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January 21, 2016, 11:13:36 PM


People who don't love freedom don't really understand those of us who do.

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Chin up, Buttercup!

"We wanna be free! We wanna be free to do what we wanna do. We wanna be free to ride. We wanna be free to ride our machines without being hassled by The Man! ... And we wanna get loaded!"
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January 21, 2016, 11:33:48 PM

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1. If TFF thought that there are "unalienable rights" and indeed there are none, this misunderstanding would not make them "a criminal organization with no legitimacy." Simply means they were dead wrong.
  1a. No suggestion of "unalienable rights" existing outside of TFF's belief in the aforementioned.  If you hold Natural Rights to be self-evident, and they turn out to be so much bullshit, this would make you neither a liar nor a criminal.

If they weren't criminals, then we could possibly overthrow our government and not be criminals. If you are suggesting Might makes Right and they are not criminals only by virtue of winning, you have the bulk of Western Philosophy against you.


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2. Their "unalienable rights" are not your "Natural Rights," different shit.

Wrong. They are exactly the same rights I am talking about.

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3. There's bullshit said because it sounds purty, and makes people feel righteous and good about doing ugly shit. It's just bullshit people say, don't take it seriously. Niggers had no "unalienable rights," neither did bitches. That all changed over 2 & a half centuries. Obama ain't George Washington.
Go figure.

It's about consistency. One can error by saying something inconsistent with what they do or say two things inconsistent with each other.  Someone can be consistent and be wrong, but they can't be inconsistent and be right. Square circles don't exist. If the State claim it's just power to rule comes from the consent of the governed, then it cannot use that power to violate that consent.  It simply can't. It can use other power, coercive power, but in doing so it is no longer just and by it's own reasoning loses it's right to govern, even if it doesn't yet lose the ability.

Words mean things. You implicitly acknowledge this or you wouldn't be writing here. There's no argument you can make with words to prove me wrong, because the mere attempt is implicitly admitting that I am right.



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January 21, 2016, 11:50:27 PM

Smallblockers don't seem to get it. The only way you can prove me wrong about Bitcoin is by making me rich. If the market goes down, it's because it rejects the smallblocker vision. Miners are more likely to take the big block fork. If it goes up, I can sell my coins at a nice profit so I can re-invest in a coin more true to what I believe Bitcoin is supposed to be.

so what's it going to be? Checkmate.
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January 21, 2016, 11:57:59 PM

Smallblockers don't seem to get it. The only way you can prove me wrong about Bitcoin is by making me rich. If the market goes down, it's because it rejects the smallblocker vision. Miners are more likely to take the big block fork. If it goes up, I can sell my coins at a nice profit so I can re-invest in a coin more true to what I believe Bitcoin is supposed to be.

so what's it going to be? Checkmate.



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1. If TFF thought that there are "unalienable rights" and indeed there are none, this misunderstanding would not make them "a criminal organization with no legitimacy." Simply means they were dead wrong.
  1a. No suggestion of "unalienable rights" existing outside of TFF's belief in the aforementioned.  If you hold Natural Rights to be self-evident, and they turn out to be so much bullshit, this would make you neither a liar nor a criminal.

If they weren't criminals, then we could possibly overthrow our government and not be criminals.
Only if you succeed. If you lose, you're a criminal. Just like Our Funding Fathers would have been, had they lost.
Should be self-evident. I'm starting to suspect our public education is not all it could be Sad
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If you are suggesting Might makes Right and they are not criminals only by virtue of winning, you have the bulk of Western Philosophy against you.
Western Philosophers! How many divisions have they got?
 
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2. Their "unalienable rights" are not your "Natural Rights," different shit.

Wrong. They are exactly the same rights I am talking about.
So "Life, Liberty, and Pursuit of Happiness"? Those are your Natural Rights? Who is trying to usurp those from you, exactly?
Or are you just mad 'coz you haven't caught Happiness yet? You were promised pursuit, not capture Cheesy
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3. There's bullshit said because it sounds purty, and makes people feel righteous and good about doing ugly shit. It's just bullshit people say, don't take it seriously. Niggers had no "unalienable rights," neither did bitches. That all changed over 2 & a half centuries. Obama ain't George Washington.
Go figure.

It's about consistency. One can error by saying something inconsistent with what they do or say two things inconsistent with each other.  Someone can be consistent and be wrong, but they can't be inconsistent and be right. Square circles don't exist.
That's debatable too, but not here.
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If the State claim it's just power to rule comes from the consent of the governed, then it cannot use that power to violate that consent.  It simply can't. It can use other power, coercive power, but in doing so it is no longer just and by it's own reasoning loses it's right to govern, even if it doesn't yet lose the ability.
If you're suggesting that the state claims that it rules with universal consent of *all* that it governs, you're simply mistaken.
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Words mean things. You implicitly acknowledge this or you wouldn't be writing here. There's no argument you can make with words to prove me wrong, because the mere attempt is implicitly admitting that I am right.
Of course words mean things. Bringing up bitches and niggers was meant to make you ask yourself "hey, maybe that flowery prose was just a tool to rouse the rabble, because rabble fight better with God on their side?"
Of course these Founding Fathers were criminals. Of course. They were TRAITORS. But they won, so they're heroes. As all victors are.
And you're gullible enough to hold the current administration to the letter of some agitprop penned 2 & half centuries ago.

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January 22, 2016, 12:10:06 AM

Holy Crap!

Lambie is a Hobbesian!!!

Edit: Well, and a Kantian, come to think of it.

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January 22, 2016, 12:38:54 AM

Will I / Wont I troll the Core PR7833 Huh

Aw heck, I think I just did.

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Reader Exercise:  Identify the rogue PR's in COre....

PR ####  Change constant 'COIN' to 1 Bong
PR ####  FULL RBF activation date change to Ratember TonTi

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January 22, 2016, 12:40:51 AM

Holy Crap!

Lambie is a Hobbesian!!!

Edit: Well, and a Kantian, come to think of it.

Unlimited tolerance must lead to the disappearance of tolerance. If we extend unlimited tolerance even to those who are intolerant, if we are not prepared to defend a tolerant society against the onslaught of the intolerant, then the tolerant will be destroyed, and tolerance with them. – In this formulation, I do not imply, for instance, that we should always suppress the utterance of intolerant philosophies; as long as we can counter them by rational argument and keep them in check by public opinion, suppression would certainly be most unwise. But we should claim the right to suppress them if necessary even by force; for it may easily turn out that they are not prepared to meet us on the level of rational argument, but begin by denouncing all argument; they may forbid their followers to listen to rational argument, because it is deceptive, and teach them to answer arguments by the use of their fists or pistols. We should therefore claim, in the name of tolerance, the right not to tolerate the intolerant.We should claim that any movement preaching intolerance places itself outside the law, and we should consider incitement to intolerance and persecution as criminal, in the same way as we should consider incitement to murder, or to kidnapping, or to the revival of the slave trade, as criminal.
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January 22, 2016, 12:52:47 AM

Smallblockers don't seem to get it. The only way you can prove me wrong about Bitcoin is by making me rich. If the market goes down, it's because it rejects the smallblocker vision. Miners are more likely to take the big block fork. If it goes up, I can sell my coins at a nice profit so I can re-invest in a coin more true to what I believe Bitcoin is supposed to be.

so what's it going to be? Checkmate.



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I'll take three.

Ooh. I'm in luck. The currency converter says that should cost me $0.00
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January 22, 2016, 01:11:25 AM

Solitude, where are you? We need some more cutting edge remarks such as :

It's the same faggots dribbling the same nonsense in this thread.

some Juan Juan faggot, some billyjean faggot, i can't even remember your stupid names.

I can't even be bothered ignoring you retards, I just scroll down past whatever you idiots say.

Why don't you faggots get a hobby or something, you're the kings of the special olympics, absolute fucking retards.

Sell your coins or don't i dont give a fuck, i'll be the one having the last laugh when Bitcoin goes through the roof.
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Solitude, where are you? We need some more cutting edge remarks such as :

It's the same faggots dribbling the same nonsense in this thread.

some Juan Juan faggot, some billyjean faggot, i can't even remember your stupid names.

I can't even be bothered ignoring you retards, I just scroll down past whatever you idiots say.

Why don't you faggots get a hobby or something, you're the kings of the special olympics, absolute fucking retards.

Sell your coins or don't i dont give a fuck, i'll be the one having the last laugh when Bitcoin goes through the roof.


I've hardly even posted all day, today.... hehehehehehehe... assuming that part of that "creative" and "inspiring" post is referring to yours truly...  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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January 22, 2016, 01:15:47 AM


If you're suggesting that the state claims that it rules with universal consent of *all* that it governs, you're simply mistaken.

I believe the State claims to rule with the overwhelming consent of most of the governed, and it does. According to them, if you vote and your candidate loses, you still consent to be governed by the winner because in voting you implicitly consent to the rules of the game. They also claim that if you don't vote, you implicitly consent to be ruled by whoever wins because you didn't voice your objection. It's a nice little trap.


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And you're gullible enough to hold the current administration to the letter of some agitprop penned 2 & half centuries ago.

I do hold them to it because that's where they claim to get their legitimacy.  It's by their own stated standards that they lack that legitimacy.  It's why I feel no moral obligation to respect their rule. Having said that, I do not advocate breaking the law for the same reason I don't advocate trying to fight off an armed gang of attackers with a butter knife. It's not a moral issue. It's just a matter of pragmatism, but that doesn't mean I have to pretend it's right or stop looking for an opportunity to escape the situation or to find a way to fight back that has a reasonable probability of success.  

Anyway, the original point was that "anarchy" technically means "no rulers" not "no rules", but definitions are descriptive, not prescriptive, so what it technically means is useless in common speech, where it means "chaos". That's why I prefer to say I'm an advocate of distributed governance.  People still ask me what that means, but at least they start out knowing nothing about it rather than something that's wrong.
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