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[Syke]

Also ask why did big exchanges add ETH..

Exchanges love pump-n-dump scamcoins. They make money on the pump, they make money on the dump.

[adamstgBit]

if feels as tho that nice little drop re-energised the market

[adamstgBit]

>700 when china wakes up?

[DaRude]

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cmon m8, enough of the scam crap,lol  what if Dr Craig Wright was Satoshi and he had 1mill BTC, does that make BTC a scam?

The scam crap is real when it comes to ethereum, so even if there has been nearly a 6 month long pump of ethereum, and there have been a lot of innocent folks piling onto it, that does not take away from it's scam fundamentals.  Merely because I am calling ETH a scam does not mean that it is not contributing to the crypto space in a variety of ways.  For example, it has drawn considerable interest, and there are likely some very creative people attempting to figure out innovations.  Furthermore, it likely provides a kind of vehicle in which government and financial institutions can invest and attempt to denigrate bitcoin through such ploys, but in the end, Bitcoin is very likely to continue to grow stronger.

Regarding your hypothetical point about Craig Wright being Satoshi.. such a what-if is nearly pure fantasy land.. yeah it was in the news, and yeah it got a lot of attention, but the mere fact that such a ridiculous claim got a lot of attention, and even temporarily caused negative price movement should not seriously be considered to be some kind of event that we should take into account.  But, yeah, if some goofball, such as craig wright had access or appeared to have access to 1 million bitcoin, that would surely be a bearish kind of fantasy world outcome.. but it is just that fantasy world...   At this time, there are no tangible, material and/or convincing facts to back up such ridiculous speculation.

if its not wright...its someone else...there is a gun on btc head as we all know somebody holds 1million BTC.
Also ask why did big exchanges add ETH..it is so crypto can survive if btc fails. Do you know btc must be $600+ after halving, if it goes below for a while, miners, network, hashrate..drops , and i hope it doesnt happen, but id rather be safe than sorry.
ltrs dude

Wait what's wrong with hashrate adjusting down??

[gentlemand]

Wait what's wrong with hashrate adjusting down??

Ssh. You're supposed to be vomiting with fear after the true connotations of that monstrous idea sink in.  

[JayJuanGee]

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cmon m8, enough of the scam crap,lol  what if Dr Craig Wright was Satoshi and he had 1mill BTC, does that make BTC a scam?

The scam crap is real when it comes to ethereum, so even if there has been nearly a 6 month long pump of ethereum, and there have been a lot of innocent folks piling onto it, that does not take away from it's scam fundamentals.  Merely because I am calling ETH a scam does not mean that it is not contributing to the crypto space in a variety of ways.  For example, it has drawn considerable interest, and there are likely some very creative people attempting to figure out innovations.  Furthermore, it likely provides a kind of vehicle in which government and financial institutions can invest and attempt to denigrate bitcoin through such ploys, but in the end, Bitcoin is very likely to continue to grow stronger.

Regarding your hypothetical point about Craig Wright being Satoshi.. such a what-if is nearly pure fantasy land.. yeah it was in the news, and yeah it got a lot of attention, but the mere fact that such a ridiculous claim got a lot of attention, and even temporarily caused negative price movement should not seriously be considered to be some kind of event that we should take into account.  But, yeah, if some goofball, such as craig wright had access or appeared to have access to 1 million bitcoin, that would surely be a bearish kind of fantasy world outcome.. but it is just that fantasy world...   At this time, there are no tangible, material and/or convincing facts to back up such ridiculous speculation.

if its not wright...its someone else...there is a gun on btc head as we all know somebody holds 1million BTC.

I must applaud you at least for your attempt at persistence on your talking point fearmongering theme.

You know that the uncertainty of the 1 million untouched coins is currently priced in, and surely if circumstances change, in which it appears that some actual person has access to those coins, then we will need to address that uncertainty that has been converted into less of an uncertainty (depending upon how the facts play out if such a scenario were to unfold).

In other words, we can carry on for the moment, because we do not have any tangible facts in front of us that any person or entity (whether nefarious or not has any kind of access to those about 1 million early mined coins)

Also ask why did big exchanges add ETH..it is so crypto can survive if btc fails. Do you know btc must be $600+ after halving, if it goes below for a while, miners, network, hashrate..drops , and i hope it doesnt happen, but id rather be safe than sorry.
ltrs dude

You know what?   I don't really disagree with the subtext of your point that it is a fairly prudent business move to include ethereum on various exchanges, and the current volume and possible future volume involving ethereum is likely profitable for them.  that in no way supports any kind of thesis that any individual should invest in ethereum at this time.  Sure everyone is different, so there could be some actual reasons to take some kind of investment in ethereum, yet I have already provided sufficient evidence and logic to show why I personally believe such an investment would be a gamble in most currently apparent scenarios..

So there is no such thing as prudent to invest anything substantial into a gamble.. you gotta really be willing to roll the dice with that ETH baby cakes.

[bitebits]

For altcointalk there is a dedicated sub, so please:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=67.0

[JimboToronto]

Sideways is okay after a weekend of excellent rally but we still have 3 hours to get the daily candle back in the green.

Buy, buy, buy.

Disclaimer: I can't buy any coins right now myself because I'm down to less than $500 pocket fiat. I almost sold a few million satoshis when we were over $700 to tide me over, but luckily I ran into someone who owed me some scratch so I didn't have to. Besides that, it's been almost a month since we've had a dip worth buying.

[savetherainforest]

Sideways is okay after a weekend of excellent rally but we still have 3 hours to get the daily candle back in the green.

Buy, buy, buy.

Disclaimer: I can't buy any coins right now myself because I'm down to less than $500 pocket fiat. I almost sold a few million satoshis when we were over $700 to tide me over, but luckily I ran into someone who owed me some scratch so I didn't have to. Besides that, it's been almost a month since we've had a dip worth buying.

"a few million satoshis" ... that seems to become a norm and not sound like an aberration when said out loud. 

[JimboToronto]

"a few million satoshis" ... that seems to become a norm and not sound like an aberration when said out loud. 

Aren't most of us satoshi multi-billionaires?

 

[Spaceman_Spiff]

I think we might see a second drop tomorrow.

[Fakhoury]

I think we might see a second drop tomorrow.

Why ?

[Fakhoury]

News URL : http://www.rlslog.net/bitcoin-for-dummies-p2p/

[Spaceman_Spiff]

I think we might see a second drop tomorrow.

Why ?

We went up really fast, and this correction was quite mild.  Leverage longs are still quite high. I might be wrong though.

[Fakhoury]

I think we might see a second drop tomorrow.

Why ?

We went up really fast, and this correction was quite mild.  Leverage longs are still quite high. I might be wrong though.

Actually I don't find you wrong, I need a correction to sustain a healthy growth.

[ImI]

If we have no external problems and BTC can just hush along as it pleases i expect this rally to be lasting a while. Nevertheless if the blocksize fight escalates again in July it might be the end of this bullish cycle.

I hope that Luke, Adam and Matt will fulfill their promise and deliver the HF code, otherwise we could see some ugly High Noon between chinese miners and Core and you can bet that markets won't like that.

https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/4o2nii/please_bring_a_message_to_those_core_individuals/

[JimboToronto]

I think we might see a second drop tomorrow.

I think we might see a second day of sideways tomorrow.

[AlexGR]

If we have no external problems and BTC can just hush along as it pleases i expect this rally to be lasting a while. Nevertheless if the blocksize fight escalates again in July it might be the end of this bullish cycle.

I hope that Luke, Adam and Matt will fulfill their promise and deliver the HF code, otherwise we could see some ugly High Noon between chinese miners and Core and you can bet that markets won't like that.

https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/4o2nii/please_bring_a_message_to_those_core_individuals/

Antpool is mining ...7kb blocks.

https://blockchain.info/block-height/416287
https://blockchain.info/block-height/416298
https://blockchain.info/block-height/416302

[Fakhoury]

If we have no external problems and BTC can just hush along as it pleases i expect this rally to be lasting a while. Nevertheless if the blocksize fight escalates again in July it might be the end of this bullish cycle.

I hope that Luke, Adam and Matt will fulfill their promise and deliver the HF code, otherwise we could see some ugly High Noon between chinese miners and Core and you can bet that markets won't like that.

https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/4o2nii/please_bring_a_message_to_those_core_individuals/

I agree with what you said, but I believe in the core devs. and I respect their words, I nearly take their words forgranted.

[ImI]

If we have no external problems and BTC can just hush along as it pleases i expect this rally to be lasting a while. Nevertheless if the blocksize fight escalates again in July it might be the end of this bullish cycle.

I hope that Luke, Adam and Matt will fulfill their promise and deliver the HF code, otherwise we could see some ugly High Noon between chinese miners and Core and you can bet that markets won't like that.

https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/4o2nii/please_bring_a_message_to_those_core_individuals/

I agree with what you said, but I believe in the core devs. and I respect their words, I nearly take their words forgranted.

I believe in the sanity of chinese miners, if prices are as pleasant as they are right now, i expect them to back down a little cause they know about the devastating PR-effects of such a showdown (including a fork, change of Hash and so on and on). In a way the rise in price keeps the problem at bay cause everybody is happy. At least i hope so.