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March 25, 2017, 09:51:18 AM

This is ironical. If people have problem with Bitcoin and have no faith left in its future, then why in the blue hell are they wasting their time in this thread?
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March 25, 2017, 09:54:54 AM

But let's flip your stupid assertion on its head. Isn't it a problem that one angry chinese miner and one high powered enthusiast on the autism specter can bring Bitcoin to its knees? Why is that? Why is Bitcoin so weak?
A lot of bitcoin haters joined forces to make it look weak. Those are different groups with different agendas. They would hate to see segwit, LN and side chains implemented. Every fucking altcoin can be implemented as a bitcoin side chain without any risk to consumers! But that is the last thing banks would like to see. So they pump the alts they've chosen to distract average Joe from further converting his savings into bitcoins. The alt is not dangerous for banks. They can kill it anytime just by dumping it. 99% of altcoin investors are just desperado gamblers that don't really care about smart contracts or whatever.
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March 25, 2017, 09:56:09 AM

This is ironical. If people have problem with Bitcoin and have no faith left in its future, then why in the blue hell are they wasting their time in this thread?

I have plenty of faith in Bitcoin. But that doesn't mean it doesn't have problems.
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March 25, 2017, 09:59:05 AM

But let's flip your stupid assertion on its head. Isn't it a problem that one angry chinese miner and one high powered enthusiast on the autism specter can bring Bitcoin to its knees? Why is that? Why is Bitcoin so weak?
A lot of bitcoin haters joined forces to make it look weak. Those are different groups with different agendas. They would hate to see segwit, LN and side chains implemented. Every fucking altcoin can be implemented as a bitcoin side chain without any risk to consumers! But that is the last thing banks would like to see. So they pump the alts they've chosen to distract average Joe from further converting his savings into bitcoins. The alt is not dangerous for banks. They can kill it anytime just by dumping it. 99% of altcoin investors are just desperado gamblers that don't really care about smart contracts or whatever.

So Roger Ver is a Bitcoin hater now?
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March 25, 2017, 10:00:38 AM

We are crawling up again. Go BTC go
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March 25, 2017, 10:00:47 AM

Bitcoin was a matter of faith back in the early days. Now it's a game like many others, unfortunately. I mean look at the value of a single coin (even after this drop) there's nothing in the digital realm that can compare.
There wolves, bulls and bears everywhere nowadays. No more eagles though
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March 25, 2017, 10:11:36 AM

We are crawling up again. Go BTC go
Likely another dead cat bounce on the way down. There's weak support reforming at 900 but another dump like the earlier ones and we're plunging back down to 800. I highly suggest holding if you bought at 1200 (should have sold a little there), despite the downward trend right now.
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March 25, 2017, 10:13:51 AM

But let's flip your stupid assertion on its head. Isn't it a problem that one angry chinese miner and one high powered enthusiast on the autism specter can bring Bitcoin to its knees? Why is that? Why is Bitcoin so weak?
A lot of bitcoin haters joined forces to make it look weak. Those are different groups with different agendas. They would hate to see segwit, LN and side chains implemented. Every fucking altcoin can be implemented as a bitcoin side chain without any risk to consumers! But that is the last thing banks would like to see. So they pump the alts they've chosen to distract average Joe from further converting his savings into bitcoins. The alt is not dangerous for banks. They can kill it anytime just by dumping it. 99% of altcoin investors are just desperado gamblers that don't really care about smart contracts or whatever.

So Roger Ver is a Bitcoin hater now?

Roger Ver is an emotional psychopath or act like that because he is a puppet directed by shadow actors. He hates everything that doesn't go his way. He doesn't care about Bitcoin or BUcoin success. His only obsession is to see Core team defeated. Everything and everybody that can get Core humiliated will get Roger's support!  
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March 25, 2017, 10:15:57 AM

Some consolidation while Bitcoin moves relatively sideways to find some support at $950 by Monday would be a good sign. I know some are hoping for a flash crash to $750 to fill their bags though.
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March 25, 2017, 10:19:01 AM

But let's flip your stupid assertion on its head. Isn't it a problem that one angry chinese miner and one high powered enthusiast on the autism specter can bring Bitcoin to its knees? Why is that? Why is Bitcoin so weak?
A lot of bitcoin haters joined forces to make it look weak. Those are different groups with different agendas. They would hate to see segwit, LN and side chains implemented. Every fucking altcoin can be implemented as a bitcoin side chain without any risk to consumers! But that is the last thing banks would like to see. So they pump the alts they've chosen to distract average Joe from further converting his savings into bitcoins. The alt is not dangerous for banks. They can kill it anytime just by dumping it. 99% of altcoin investors are just desperado gamblers that don't really care about smart contracts or whatever.

Do you really think the BU crowd, the banks, Roger Ver and some Chinese dark forces all sat around a table together and conspired to bring Bitcoin down?

I know this is the internet age and anyone can believe anything - but the problem is simple. Bitcoin is at war with itself, unable to change to deliver a solution to a real problem and lacking leadership, and direction.

It has issues and no solution is apparent.  There is no conspiracy of dumpers, just people who worry and sell coins because of this uncertainty.  It is rational behaviour to sell when the price is not looking realistic.

That is all.  I am a Bitcoin fan.
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March 25, 2017, 10:20:26 AM

Some consolidation while Bitcoin moves relatively sideways to find some support at $950 by Monday would be a good sign. I know some are hoping for a flash crash to $750 to fill their bags though.

No further crash is going to happen. Please look at Dash and Ethereum, bubble is already bursting and capital is flowing back where it belongs.
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March 25, 2017, 10:24:56 AM

Well, word is that various exchanges, miners and developers will be meeting in May to discuss the path forward. I know the previous summit on block size did not pan out but just the word of SOMETHING breaking the logjam with an ASAP reversal of 51% attack threats would allow consensus to form a little more while the community can chill out and stabilize this market.
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March 25, 2017, 10:28:35 AM

Please look at Dash and Ethereum

Hey, don't forget:

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March 25, 2017, 10:34:13 AM

So Roger Ver is a Bitcoin hater now?

Haters are ok because they are harmless. He is worse: A bad actor.

You can say you love bitcoin 100 times a day, but it's your actions that define you. And his actions undermine bitcoin as a currency and store of value.
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March 25, 2017, 10:34:34 AM

I know this is the internet age and anyone can believe anything - but the problem is simple. Bitcoin is at war with itself, unable to change to deliver a solution to a real problem and lacking leadership, and direction.

blah-blah-blah...

Bitcoin is at war with itself from day one. There will always be different groups that have conflicting agendas. That is the natural sate of every decentralized project.

Oh, and yes, "lack" of leadership is also good. Although, part of BUcoiners' arguments now is that Bitcoin is actually a Corecoin?!... So, is there a lack of leadership or there isn't?

There is a clear direction as well. Core team have a road map not from yesterday!
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March 25, 2017, 10:37:45 AM

*Edit: I bought back like 80% of my coins

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March 25, 2017, 10:38:37 AM

But let's flip your stupid assertion on its head. Isn't it a problem that one angry chinese miner and one high powered enthusiast on the autism specter can bring Bitcoin to its knees? Why is that? Why is Bitcoin so weak?
A lot of bitcoin haters joined forces to make it look weak. Those are different groups with different agendas. They would hate to see segwit, LN and side chains implemented. Every fucking altcoin can be implemented as a bitcoin side chain without any risk to consumers! But that is the last thing banks would like to see. So they pump the alts they've chosen to distract average Joe from further converting his savings into bitcoins. The alt is not dangerous for banks. They can kill it anytime just by dumping it. 99% of altcoin investors are just desperado gamblers that don't really care about smart contracts or whatever.

So Roger Ver is a Bitcoin hater now?

Roger Ver is an emotional psychopath or act like that because he is a puppet directed by shadow actors. He hates everything that doesn't go his way. He doesn't care about Bitcoin or BUcoin success. His only obsession is to see Core team defeated. Everything and everybody that can get Core humiliated will get Roger's support!  

LOL, what a shithead you are. And no i am not in any camp in this silly civilwar.

Edit: Who are those "shadow actors"? The Illuminati? The Rothschilds?
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March 25, 2017, 10:42:50 AM

*Edit: I bought back like 80% of my coins
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March 25, 2017, 10:45:05 AM

In may last year I bought right before the bitfinex hack .... how disappointed I was. Now I wish I could buy at that price again. So in the end I regularly buy a little and I do not care about the price anymore.
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March 25, 2017, 10:56:06 AM

I know this is the internet age and anyone can believe anything - but the problem is simple. Bitcoin is at war with itself, unable to change to deliver a solution to a real problem and lacking leadership, and direction.

blah-blah-blah...

Bitcoin is at war with itself from day one. There will always be different groups that have conflicting agendas. That is the natural sate of every decentralized project.

Oh, and yes, "lack" of leadership is also good. Although, part of BUcoiners' arguments now is that Bitcoin is actually a Corecoin?!... So, is there a lack of leadership or there isn't?

There is a clear direction as well. Core team have a road map not from yesterday!

My point was simply that is is not a conspiracy, it is Bitcoin having problems within itself.

I have little respect for any sides in this battle, whether it be Core, or the likes of Roger Ver. I also struggle with people who think 'it's a black ops / conspiracy' and nothing is actually wrong with Bitcoin at all.
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