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[Fatman3001]

It takes two to tango, doesn't it?

There is no tango here.

To the degree people are choosing alts over BTC, Ver & Jihan can hardly be held accountable. Core has dropped the ball. Can they pick it up? That would require a schism (another one) in Core. UASF is almost as divisive as BU. And without leadership...

This is bullshit. Nobody in their right fucking mind would attempt to use one of these scam coins. The only reason that people go in those is to gather more Bitcoin. That said, both Ver & Jihan are directly responsible for this, with their power-grab attempt. Core has done nothing wrong. They provided a very good (Segwit isn't perfect) scaling solution that would provide ~2.1 MB worth of TXs with adoption. In addition to that, they'd implement Schnorr post Segwit which would give the network even more capacity without requiring a HF.

Grow the F up Lauda. This is the real world. Core has bet everything on one horse and made it almost impossible for that horse to win with their 95% threshold. Of course this is a risky strategy. I struggle to imagine anything dumber.

If you lot can whip people in line and get that UASF thing going then good for you, but thus far it looks like it's being shot down left and right.

But let's flip your stupid assertion on its head. Isn't it a problem that one angry chinese miner and one high powered enthusiast on the autism spectrum can bring Bitcoin to its knees? Why is that? Why is Bitcoin so weak?

[BDO_44]

Manipulators are trying to suppress the price, but at least no one seems willing to sell below 900. Correct me if I'm wrong.

will happen, just a matter of time 

you can't go up 24/7, sometimes you go low and stay there for a while

[becoin]

Next week I'm sending some cash to the exchange. Lets hope price stays that low until Monday.

[r0ach]

Grow the F up Lauda. This is the real world.

LOL, no kidding.  Marcus usually holds the top position as #1 bitcoin shill, but Lauda is trying awfully hard to topple him and take his place.  Even to the point of claiming gold and silver have no value and bitcoin is the only thing in the universe that is valuable (which Marcus also agrees on lol).

Fucking Lauda on an airplane:

[Nam3]

This is ironical. If people have problem with Bitcoin and have no faith left in its future, then why in the blue hell are they wasting their time in this thread?

[becoin]

But let's flip your stupid assertion on its head. Isn't it a problem that one angry chinese miner and one high powered enthusiast on the autism specter can bring Bitcoin to its knees? Why is that? Why is Bitcoin so weak?

A lot of bitcoin haters joined forces to make it look weak. Those are different groups with different agendas. They would hate to see segwit, LN and side chains implemented. Every fucking altcoin can be implemented as a bitcoin side chain without any risk to consumers! But that is the last thing banks would like to see. So they pump the alts they've chosen to distract average Joe from further converting his savings into bitcoins. The alt is not dangerous for banks. They can kill it anytime just by dumping it. 99% of altcoin investors are just desperado gamblers that don't really care about smart contracts or whatever.

[Fatman3001]

This is ironical. If people have problem with Bitcoin and have no faith left in its future, then why in the blue hell are they wasting their time in this thread?

I have plenty of faith in Bitcoin. But that doesn't mean it doesn't have problems.

[Fatman3001]

But let's flip your stupid assertion on its head. Isn't it a problem that one angry chinese miner and one high powered enthusiast on the autism specter can bring Bitcoin to its knees? Why is that? Why is Bitcoin so weak?

A lot of bitcoin haters joined forces to make it look weak. Those are different groups with different agendas. They would hate to see segwit, LN and side chains implemented. Every fucking altcoin can be implemented as a bitcoin side chain without any risk to consumers! But that is the last thing banks would like to see. So they pump the alts they've chosen to distract average Joe from further converting his savings into bitcoins. The alt is not dangerous for banks. They can kill it anytime just by dumping it. 99% of altcoin investors are just desperado gamblers that don't really care about smart contracts or whatever.

So Roger Ver is a Bitcoin hater now?

[york780]

We are crawling up again. Go BTC go

[Karartma1]

Bitcoin was a matter of faith back in the early days. Now it's a game like many others, unfortunately. I mean look at the value of a single coin (even after this drop) there's nothing in the digital realm that can compare.
There wolves, bulls and bears everywhere nowadays. No more eagles though

[leowonderful]

We are crawling up again. Go BTC go

Likely another dead cat bounce on the way down. There's weak support reforming at 900 but another dump like the earlier ones and we're plunging back down to 800. I highly suggest holding if you bought at 1200 (should have sold a little there), despite the downward trend right now.

[becoin]

But let's flip your stupid assertion on its head. Isn't it a problem that one angry chinese miner and one high powered enthusiast on the autism specter can bring Bitcoin to its knees? Why is that? Why is Bitcoin so weak?

A lot of bitcoin haters joined forces to make it look weak. Those are different groups with different agendas. They would hate to see segwit, LN and side chains implemented. Every fucking altcoin can be implemented as a bitcoin side chain without any risk to consumers! But that is the last thing banks would like to see. So they pump the alts they've chosen to distract average Joe from further converting his savings into bitcoins. The alt is not dangerous for banks. They can kill it anytime just by dumping it. 99% of altcoin investors are just desperado gamblers that don't really care about smart contracts or whatever.

So Roger Ver is a Bitcoin hater now?

Roger Ver is an emotional psychopath or act like that because he is a puppet directed by shadow actors. He hates everything that doesn't go his way. He doesn't care about Bitcoin or BUcoin success. His only obsession is to see Core team defeated. Everything and everybody that can get Core humiliated will get Roger's support!  

[andyatcrux]

Some consolidation while Bitcoin moves relatively sideways to find some support at $950 by Monday would be a good sign. I know some are hoping for a flash crash to $750 to fill their bags though.

[kurious]

But let's flip your stupid assertion on its head. Isn't it a problem that one angry chinese miner and one high powered enthusiast on the autism specter can bring Bitcoin to its knees? Why is that? Why is Bitcoin so weak?

A lot of bitcoin haters joined forces to make it look weak. Those are different groups with different agendas. They would hate to see segwit, LN and side chains implemented. Every fucking altcoin can be implemented as a bitcoin side chain without any risk to consumers! But that is the last thing banks would like to see. So they pump the alts they've chosen to distract average Joe from further converting his savings into bitcoins. The alt is not dangerous for banks. They can kill it anytime just by dumping it. 99% of altcoin investors are just desperado gamblers that don't really care about smart contracts or whatever.

Do you really think the BU crowd, the banks, Roger Ver and some Chinese dark forces all sat around a table together and conspired to bring Bitcoin down?

I know this is the internet age and anyone can believe anything - but the problem is simple. Bitcoin is at war with itself, unable to change to deliver a solution to a real problem and lacking leadership, and direction.

It has issues and no solution is apparent.  There is no conspiracy of dumpers, just people who worry and sell coins because of this uncertainty.  It is rational behaviour to sell when the price is not looking realistic.

That is all.  I am a Bitcoin fan.

[york780]

Some consolidation while Bitcoin moves relatively sideways to find some support at $950 by Monday would be a good sign. I know some are hoping for a flash crash to $750 to fill their bags though.

No further crash is going to happen. Please look at Dash and Ethereum, bubble is already bursting and capital is flowing back where it belongs.

[andyatcrux]

Well, word is that various exchanges, miners and developers will be meeting in May to discuss the path forward. I know the previous summit on block size did not pan out but just the word of SOMETHING breaking the logjam with an ASAP reversal of 51% attack threats would allow consensus to form a little more while the community can chill out and stabilize this market.

[r0ach]

Please look at Dash and Ethereum

Hey, don't forget:

[AlexGR]

So Roger Ver is a Bitcoin hater now?

Haters are ok because they are harmless. He is worse: A bad actor.

You can say you love bitcoin 100 times a day, but it's your actions that define you. And his actions undermine bitcoin as a currency and store of value.

[becoin]

I know this is the internet age and anyone can believe anything - but the problem is simple. Bitcoin is at war with itself, unable to change to deliver a solution to a real problem and lacking leadership, and direction.

blah-blah-blah...

Bitcoin is at war with itself from day one. There will always be different groups that have conflicting agendas. That is the natural sate of every decentralized project.

Oh, and yes, "lack" of leadership is also good. Although, part of BUcoiners' arguments now is that Bitcoin is actually a Corecoin?!... So, is there a lack of leadership or there isn't?

There is a clear direction as well. Core team have a road map not from yesterday!

[conspirosphere.tk]

*Edit: I bought back like 80% of my coins