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[Ted E. Bare]

Jimbo is well known for buying the bottoms.

[Ted E. Bare]

BTC-e is shady as fuck but has a surprisingly good track record.

[YamashitaRen]

I think I sold to Jimbo then °°

Results of the day :
Yesterday I was expecting a dip coming sooner or later, chose to stay fiat instead of short.
Should have followed my forecast and stayed fiat all the day long instead of playing the whales's game  


But well, that's my first day of serious trading since I came back to cryptos and moved out of laggy Kraken, so I guess that's part of the game...

[bikerleszno]

[chesthing]

Who sold at the bottom?

Noone, it's obvious we all BOUGHT at the bottom... or do you think the price rises by itself? geez...

In every transaction there's a buyer and a seller.

For every coin bought at a bargain price during a dip, someone sold at a discount, whether it was from necessity or panic.

Most of the time the buyer is the exchange, not some dude like you who has a crystal ball.

[fabiorem]

Jimbo is well known for buying the bottoms.

How to know when the bottom is reached? I have been following the trends and sunday always seems the most deep it can go, and it always tries to recover in monday.

[bones261]

Jimbo is well known for buying the bottoms.

How to know when the bottom is reached? I have been following the trends and sunday always seems the most deep it can go, and it always tries to recover in monday.

That trend is usually caused because people's wire transfers don't start coming in until Monday. It's not a foolproof trend though.

[marcus_of_augustus]

the trend is pretty clear ... whenever killerpotleaf (adam) and jbreher (bear) show up here to spread more HARD-FORK-NOW! FUD and stir up the natives then price is going to drop.

pretty sure they are both on WuVer's payroll ... he throws them a few bitcoins to spread FUD whenever they get the word.

[bones261]

the trend is pretty clear ... whenever killerpotleaf (adam) and jbreher (bear) show up here to spread more HARD-FORK-NOW! FUD and stir up the natives then price is going to drop.

pretty sure they are both on WuVer's payroll ... he throws them a few bitcoins to spread FUD whenever they get the word.

Where can I get on this payroll? I'm a bit of a bear anyway. Might as well get paid to troll. 

[marcus_of_augustus]

the trend is pretty clear ... whenever killerpotleaf (adam) and jbreher (bear) show up here to spread more HARD-FORK-NOW! FUD and stir up the natives then price is going to drop.

pretty sure they are both on WuVer's payroll ... he throws them a few bitcoins to spread FUD whenever they get the word.

Where can I get on this payroll? I'm a bit of a bear anyway. Might as well get paid to troll.  

roger@bitcoin.com

you may have to convince him of your loyalty to the cause first ... whisper sweet nothings in his ear "Your blocks are so big Roger" ... "Everyone wishes they had big blocks like you Roger" ... you know things that stroke his ego and relieve him of his blocksize anxiety, "No, thse pants don't make your blocks look too small" ... it'll be obvious what to say but it may make you feel dirty afterwards.

[bones261]

the trend is pretty clear ... whenever killerpotleaf (adam) and jbreher (bear) show up here to spread more HARD-FORK-NOW! FUD and stir up the natives then price is going to drop.

pretty sure they are both on WuVer's payroll ... he throws them a few bitcoins to spread FUD whenever they get the word.

Where can I get on this payroll? I'm a bit of a bear anyway. Might as well get paid to troll.  

roger@bitcoin.com

you may have to convince him of your loyalty to the cause first ... whisper sweet nothings in his ear "Your blocks are so big Roger" ... "Everyone wishes they had big blocks like you Roger" ... you know things that stroke his ego and relieve him of his blocksize anxiety, "No, thse pants don't make your blocks look too small" ... it'll be obvious what to say but it may make you feel dirty afterwards.

Perhaps I better pass then. If my partner caught me, I wouldn't get to be paid because there's a good chance that I might be in an urn on my mother's shelf.

[marcus_of_augustus]

https://www.sec.gov/news/press-release/2017-131

the news you alt, mainly ethereum, haters have been waiting for. this was so obvious it was in the pipeline. they really should've self regulated.

the protection racket finally swinging into action, banks must have been getting pissed at missing out on the action and now let their dogs off the leash.

I don't see it ending well at all, I think the bitcoin and the DAO shows we can not only redefine what an 'asset' or 'security' is to route around the protection rackets but the next step is we can redefine what a 'company' is ... now that they are on our turf they are going to get a run around like they've never seen ... and the only thing all their protectioneering will achieve is to drag USA and its citizens further and further behind in the free market for innovative crypto-finance.

Whether a particular investment transaction involves the offer or sale of a security – regardless of the terminology or technology used – will depend on the facts and circumstances, including the economic realities of the transaction.

I mean wtf? does that even mean ... it's just some vague nonsense that says, "we want to interfere wherever we say we can interfere" ... classic protection racket mentality.

"The SEC is studying the effects of distributed ledger and other innovative technologies and encourages market participants to engage with us," said SEC Chairman Jay Clayton. "We seek to foster innovative and beneficial ways to raise capital, while ensuring – first and foremost – that investors and our markets are protected."

"We don't know wtf we are dealing with but we want to get involved so we can keep getting our vig from our protection racket. Please help us because we haven't got a clue what we are talking about but you guys are getting rich!"

The SEC's investigation in this matter was conducted in the New York office by members of the SEC's Distributed Ledger Technology Working Group (DLTWG) -- Pamela Sawhney, Daphna A. Waxman, and Valerie A. Szczepanik, who heads the DLTWG -- with assistance from others in the agency's Divisions of Corporation Finance, Trading and Markets, and Investment Management. The investigation was supervised by Lara Shalov Mehraban.

"We've given some clueless flunkies high-faluting titles so you think we are on top of this but these are actually the girls who make the coffee when the banksters show up to drop off the brown envelopes. In fact we created a whole division full of them so it sounds even more impressive."

[chesthing]

the trend is pretty clear ... whenever killerpotleaf (adam) and jbreher (bear) show up here to spread more HARD-FORK-NOW! FUD and stir up the natives then price is going to drop.

pretty sure they are both on WuVer's payroll ... he throws them a few bitcoins to spread FUD whenever they get the word.

If the market is so fragile that a few fudders can make the price go down, it's probably going to come down on it's own eventually. Donchathink?

[sirazimuth]

I really wish Roger Ver would kill himself.

He already did. He character-assassinated himself, losing all credibility.

No. I mean, 6 feet under. No biological function. Cold to the touch.

Maggot food.

the trend is pretty clear ... whenever killerpotleaf (adam) and jbreher (bear) show up here to spread more HARD-FORK-NOW! FUD and stir up the natives then price is going to drop.

pretty sure they are both on WuVer's payroll ... he throws them a few bitcoins to spread FUD whenever they get the word.

Where can I get on this payroll? I'm a bit of a bear anyway. Might as well get paid to troll.  

roger@bitcoin.com

you may have to convince him of your loyalty to the cause first ... whisper sweet nothings in his ear "Your blocks are so big Roger" ... "Everyone wishes they had big blocks like you Roger" ... you know things that stroke his ego and relieve him of his blocksize anxiety, "No, thse pants don't make your blocks look too small" ... it'll be obvious what to say but it may make you feel dirty afterwards.

correct me if i'm wrong, but I get this distinct feeling that this Roger character, for whatever reason,
is not particularly popular around this neighborhood......
(forgive me as I'm ignorant in these matters, tho being on this thread, I know I shouldn't be)

[r0ach]

the trend is pretty clear ... whenever killerpotleaf (adam) and jbreher (bear) show up here to spread more HARD-FORK-NOW! FUD and stir up the natives then price is going to drop.

pretty sure they are both on WuVer's payroll ... he throws them a few bitcoins to spread FUD whenever they get the word.

If the market is so fragile that a few fudders can make the price go down, it's probably going to come down on it's own eventually. Donchathink?

It was doomed to collapse the second Goldman Sachs published an article saying "buy bitcoin with both hands goyim!"

[flashbit]

Is that bitmain ?

[bitserve]

the trend is pretty clear ... whenever killerpotleaf (adam) and jbreher (bear) show up here to spread more HARD-FORK-NOW! FUD and stir up the natives then price is going to drop.

pretty sure they are both on WuVer's payroll ... he throws them a few bitcoins to spread FUD whenever they get the word.

If the market is so fragile that a few fudders can make the price go down, it's probably going to come down on it's own eventually. Donchathink?

It was doomed to collapse the second Goldman Sachs published an article saying "buy bitcoin with both hands goyim!"

Roach... according to you, Bitcoin has been continually collapsing since when? $400 maybe?

Or is it only now that has collapsed? Or haven't even collapsed yet? or maybe it will never collapse?

I am confused.

[Dotto]

Can you guys please join my effort of requesting SEGWIT support on Bitcoin Cash?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2040221.msg20361681#msg20361681

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2040221.msg20382024#msg20382024

Thanks!

i'm pushing for a simple malleability fix. confident they will do it, eventually,  but many devs dont see it as a priority for the short term.

altho the classic team will provide an opt-in malleability fix for BCC to boot.

I need *instant* tx's, schnorr signatures and malleability fix in less than three months. Otherwise I will just fork Bitcoin Cash Plus from Bitcoin Cash. With SEGWIT + LN support. (It will be easy, just a clone of Bitcoin code with the Cash tag in the name). You have all been warned!

more free money!!?!?!

you guys are to kind

Wut? No free cash, Bitcoin Cash Plus will be the REAL Bitcoin Cash! *

* As satoshi intended. Haven't you read the whitepaper? blah blah?

Nah, that´s a shitcoin. The truly gem is Bitcoin Cash Plus Classic

[bitserve]

Can you guys please join my effort of requesting SEGWIT support on Bitcoin Cash?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2040221.msg20361681#msg20361681

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2040221.msg20382024#msg20382024

Thanks!

i'm pushing for a simple malleability fix. confident they will do it, eventually,  but many devs dont see it as a priority for the short term.

altho the classic team will provide an opt-in malleability fix for BCC to boot.

I need *instant* tx's, schnorr signatures and malleability fix in less than three months. Otherwise I will just fork Bitcoin Cash Plus from Bitcoin Cash. With SEGWIT + LN support. (It will be easy, just a clone of Bitcoin code with the Cash tag in the name). You have all been warned!

more free money!!?!?!

you guys are to kind

Wut? No free cash, Bitcoin Cash Plus will be the REAL Bitcoin Cash! *

* As satoshi intended. Haven't you read the whitepaper? blah blah?

Nah, that´s a shitcoin. The truly gem is Bitcoin Cash Plus Classic

You deserve some kind words from my favourite miner, Chandler Guo: https://twitter.com/ChandlerGuo/status/889146349710594049

So... Good luck everyone!

[yonton]

" Bitcoin will be the great, and to the moon "