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[Cassius]

Guys, stupid question alert here...


I want to claim my BCH and i am downloading electron cash. I click it to open it and it says "this file is encrypted, Enter your password or choose another file"

Why does it say this if I haven't downloaded it before?

I'm sure it's something simple but I'm a bit dumb.

My advice is stick Coinomi on an android device and use it.

+1

I did this worked for me no problem

Electron Cash is a fork of Electrum and uses many of the same files. If you've ever downloaded Electrum, it will use the password you set for that by default.

[Elwar]

Personally, I'd just declare any earnings as long term capital gains, pay the 15%, and be done with it.

If you can prove you held longer than a year, sure, but if it has been activity (such as trading), it's short-term capital gains. Further, LT rates depend entirely on tax bracket with those in the highest brackets paying 20%, not 15%.

^Forgot about the 20% tax bracket. Anyway, it would be worth holding an extra year for LT rates. Hell, the value of BTC will probably increase during that time anyway.

Yep, if the amount you take out plus your income is over $38k you have to pay 20% on long term capital gains.

Assuming you are in the US and a single filer, this is also wrong for the 2017 tax filing year given current law (and even some of the proposed Trump/Republican plans).

Even if you are a US citizen outside of the US.

Current top of the 15% income tax bracket is $37,950 according to https://www.fool.com/retirement/2016/12/04/your-guide-to-tax-brackets-in-2017.aspx
Any earned income above that puts you into the 25% income tax bracket which also puts you in the 20% capital gains bracket.

[Last of the V8s]

[Denker]

Don't know if this the reason for Jihan's statement. Furthermore I don't trust him in any way and wouldn't be surprise of he continues his shenanigans within the next couple of hours. You can't trust Chinese! In any industry I ever met and worked with them it always was the same. Period!

[Last of the V8s]

Don't know if this the reason for Jihan's statement. Furthermore I don't trust him in any way and wouldn't be surprise of he continues his shenanigans within the next couple of hours. You can't trust Chinese! In any industry I ever met and worked with them it always was the same. Period!

can't trust anyone. can only predict most likely their motivation is to grab moar money for themself, less for you.

meanwhile core attack dogs accused Jihan (and Garzik) of lying
then turned on Barry

[Last of the V8s]

 @btcArtGallery

[blockinoutthehaters]

https://i.imgur.com/2RReOJP.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/6BVuQSs.jpg

Don't know if this the reason for Jihan's statement. Furthermore I don't trust him in any way and wouldn't be surprise of he continues his shenanigans within the next couple of hours. You can't trust Chinese! In any industry I ever met and worked with them it always was the same. Period!

Lombrozo should follow through and ignore Wu's lies, I have no idea how he could accomplish it though.
Lomborzo could even 'kickstart/donate' to get funding and have enough within the hour.
Everyone is tired of Bitmain.

[Last of the V8s]

Don't know if this the reason for Jihan's statement. Furthermore I don't trust him in any way and wouldn't be surprise of he continues his shenanigans within the next couple of hours. You can't trust Chinese! In any industry I ever met and worked with them it always was the same. Period!

Lombrozo should follow through and ignore Wu's lies, I have no idea how he could accomplish it though.
Lomborzo could even 'kickstart/donate' to get funding and have enough within the hour.
Everyone is tired of Bitmain.

the threat is to change the proof-of-work algorithm for bitcoin from sha256 to another, which would require a hard fork.
it has support in the highest of realms: http://trilema.com/2016/the-necessary-prerequisite-for-any-change-to-the-bitcoin-protocol/

[gentlemand]

If I was a Bitcoin 'player' I think I'd retire and develop my model train set instead.

Everyone's so unbelievably emotional and hyper twitchy that if you move your Johnson one inch too far to the left it's interpreted by others as categorical evidence of your being purchased by Bilderberg.

[blockinoutthehaters]

https://i.imgur.com/2RReOJP.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/6BVuQSs.jpg

Don't know if this the reason for Jihan's statement. Furthermore I don't trust him in any way and wouldn't be surprise of he continues his shenanigans within the next couple of hours. You can't trust Chinese! In any industry I ever met and worked with them it always was the same. Period!

Lombrozo should follow through and ignore Wu's lies, I have no idea how he could accomplish it though.
Lomborzo could even 'kickstart/donate' to get funding and have enough within the hour.
Everyone is tired of Bitmain.

the threat is to change the proof-of-work algorithm for bitcoin from sha256 to another, which would require a hard fork.
it has support in the highest of realms: http://trilema.com/2016/the-necessary-prerequisite-for-any-change-to-the-bitcoin-protocol/

True, people have been talking about a PoW change. It would probably be the best thing to happen and the quicker, the better.
Most importantly how do you create a PoW that is practically unable to centralize?
Going to cpu mining with a variable PoW every few blocks, so asics are out of the picture?
And how do you transition, the change in PoW makes 'difficulty-adjustment' useless.
So are we going to get a few lucky hours/minutes where blocks are 'instamined', or the opposite, one week/month of a slow network. (With lightning functional, this might not be a huge problem).

[edgar]

rekt?

[x2666]

If I was a Bitcoin 'player' I think I'd retire and develop my model train set instead.

Everyone's so unbelievably emotional and hyper twitchy that if you move your Johnson one inch too far to the left it's interpreted by others as categorical evidence of your being purchased by Bilderberg.

They're turning the frogs GAY and Michael Obama is a Tranny! There's a war on for our minds and we're all gonna die!

[pfrtlpfmpf]

If I was a Bitcoin 'player' I think I'd retire and develop my model train set instead.

Everyone's so unbelievably emotional and hyper twitchy that if you move your Johnson one inch too far to the left it's interpreted by others as categorical evidence of your being purchased by Bilderberg.

Their turning the frogs GAY and Michael Obama is a Tranny! There's a war on for our minds and we're all gonna die!

The frogs are gay ? Didn´t know that, but i always suspected. But Michell Obama is old news. 

[luckygenough56]

kraken starting not too respond well = dump imminent 

[becoin]

kraken starting not too respond well = dump imminent 

Hopefully it will start to respond well after dump is over so that I can buy cheap bitcoins again.

[oblox]

Personally, I'd just declare any earnings as long term capital gains, pay the 15%, and be done with it.

If you can prove you held longer than a year, sure, but if it has been activity (such as trading), it's short-term capital gains. Further, LT rates depend entirely on tax bracket with those in the highest brackets paying 20%, not 15%.

^Forgot about the 20% tax bracket. Anyway, it would be worth holding an extra year for LT rates. Hell, the value of BTC will probably increase during that time anyway.

Yep, if the amount you take out plus your income is over $38k you have to pay 20% on long term capital gains.

Assuming you are in the US and a single filer, this is also wrong for the 2017 tax filing year given current law (and even some of the proposed Trump/Republican plans).

Even if you are a US citizen outside of the US.

Current top of the 15% income tax bracket is $37,950 according to https://www.fool.com/retirement/2016/12/04/your-guide-to-tax-brackets-in-2017.aspx
Any earned income above that puts you into the 25% income tax bracket which also puts you in the 20% capital gains bracket.

Regardless of whether you are a US citizen inside or outside the US... If we are talking a situation where 100% of your income is from harvesting LONG-TERM capital gains and you're a single filer, then the first $37,950 (after taking the standard deduction or itemizing if you have more than $10,400 in deductions), is taxed at 0%; then anything from $37,951 to $418,400 taxed at 15% and finally, anything $418,401+ taxed at 20%. You might be confusing the rates for section 1250 recapture.

[Elwar]

Personally, I'd just declare any earnings as long term capital gains, pay the 15%, and be done with it.

If you can prove you held longer than a year, sure, but if it has been activity (such as trading), it's short-term capital gains. Further, LT rates depend entirely on tax bracket with those in the highest brackets paying 20%, not 15%.

^Forgot about the 20% tax bracket. Anyway, it would be worth holding an extra year for LT rates. Hell, the value of BTC will probably increase during that time anyway.

Yep, if the amount you take out plus your income is over $38k you have to pay 20% on long term capital gains.

Assuming you are in the US and a single filer, this is also wrong for the 2017 tax filing year given current law (and even some of the proposed Trump/Republican plans).

Even if you are a US citizen outside of the US.

Current top of the 15% income tax bracket is $37,950 according to https://www.fool.com/retirement/2016/12/04/your-guide-to-tax-brackets-in-2017.aspx
Any earned income above that puts you into the 25% income tax bracket which also puts you in the 20% capital gains bracket.

Regardless of whether you are a US citizen inside or outside the US... If we are talking a situation where 100% of your income is from harvesting LONG-TERM capital gains and you're a single filer, then the first $37,950 (after taking the standard deduction or itemizing if you have more than $10,400 in deductions), is taxed at 0%; then anything from $37,951 to $418,400 taxed at 15% and finally, anything $418,401+ taxed at 20%. You're confusing the rates for section 1250 recapture.

Ahh yes, you are correct. I was thinking of the 0% rate.

[xhomerx10]

If I was a Bitcoin 'player' I think I'd retire and develop my model train set instead.

Everyone's so unbelievably emotional and hyper twitchy that if you move your Johnson one inch too far to the left it's interpreted by others as categorical evidence of your being purchased by Bilderberg.

Their turning the frogs GAY and Michael Obama is a Tranny! There's a war on for our minds and we're all gonna die!

The frogs are gay ? Didn´t know that, but i always suspected. But Michell Obama is old news. 

 Gay frogs; the science - Atrazine induces complete feminization and chemical castration in male African clawed frogs (Xenopus laevis)

[Karartma1]

We went ATH before being stopped again. I see a bit of sideways next if not another small correction down.
Golden rule still applies in these days: hold.

[xhomerx10]

rekt?

 Slightly different tone that previously.