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[empowering]

Like a whores drawers

[CristiTCM]

The price still going down . If it goes under $4000, i have loss. Should i sell now?

[Torque]

Plenty of ICOS will pop up that are not greedy- have decent models and a decent chance of becoming something IRL.

There is a difference.

Regulations are one way of working this out - to some degree - dirty word.

The only ICO company, and I mean *ONLY* one that makes any kind of logical sense to me is Salt Lending. I can clearly see their business case and model. Even then, I wouldn't invest in their token because 1) regulators will step in at some point, and 2) they will eventually have many competitors in the space.

All the rest are complete scams/hype/vaporware.

[Last of the V8s]

Gentlemen, please prepare your best double bottom memes.

[d_eddie]

ICOS that are rip offs-  are rip offs...

What about ones that are not?

No one needs 100 million to start a company that has no legs...

My thoughts exactly. So, where are the ones that are not? To my naive mind, ICOs look like a way to rake money without getting one's company ownership swayed as it would be with VC. I'm glad they're being regulated. Want capital? Gimme stocks, so I own (at least part of) what I paid you, so I can vote if I paid enough. You give me these sumthincoins and if (when) value goes to zero, we're good? Meaning YOU're good and I'm out of luck? No way.

The free market would have gotten there on its own- personally I would have liked to have seen it -I am sick that way.... but no! the regulators will step in (In China- USA and Europe) and regulate these ICOS

The market was being too slow for the taste of those in power. And for once I agree!

Most of these ICO spewing companies don't even need to use blockchain technology for their operation. It's just a way around the SEC or other similar institutions.

Sorry for the rant, nothing personal really. It's just that this thing with premined shitcoins really grinds my gears.

[Icygreen]

Looks like it could be a 3700-3800 target to the trend line.  I'm ready, bring it!

[bones261]

The price still going down . If it goes under $4000, i have loss. Should i sell now?

Do whatever makes you think is the best option after weighing the pros and cons. If you are risk averse, Bitcoin and other crytocurrencies may not be the best investment plan for you. Only invest what you can afford to lose.

[Torque]

ICOS that are rip offs-  are rip offs...

What about ones that are not?

No one needs 100 million to start a company that has no legs...

My thoughts exactly. So, where are the ones that are not? To my naive mind, ICOs look like a way to rake money without getting one's company ownership swayed as it would be with VC. I'm glad they're being regulated. Want capital? Gimme stocks, so I own (at least part of) what I paid you, so I can vote if I paid enough. You give me these sumthincoins and if (when) value goes to zero, we're good? Meaning YOU're good and I'm out of luck? No way.

That's a nice thought, except that you don't really own the stocks, nor own part of the company. See my post here for details:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2098580.msg21161390#msg21161390

[Last of the V8s]

The price still going down . If it goes under $4000, i have loss. Should i sell now?

No. You are an investor, not a trader. Hold firm and the price will go up above 4k soon enough.

[empowering]

Plenty of ICOS will pop up that are not greedy- have decent models and a decent chance of becoming something IRL.

There is a difference.

Regulations are one way of working this out - to some degree - dirty word.

The only ICO company, and I mean *ONLY* one that makes any kind of logical sense to me is Salt Lending. Even then, I wouldn't invest in their token because 1) regulators will step in at some point, and 2) they will eventually have many competitors in the space.

All the rest are complete scams/hype/vaporware.

Guess what- when the  regulations are in place...

Players wishing to fill the space and raise funds will pop up - the calibre of them should improve somewhat.

ICOs are not a mythical magical unknown never before seen thing.. sure they have a catchy new name in this blockchain space... but its just raising money.

I think the market will provide a streamlined solution for raising funds and investing in those funds- using technology- using blockchains....  I mean why would this NOT happen? surely you don't think this area of finance/business will somehow be missed out by Fintech? I guess that it wont be.. it will be and is already very much engaged within this area..  they just need the regs for completing their framework.


I believe this niche will be fully filled given time- and will produce no doubt some companies via ICOs (which just like all ventures and new risky seed stage investment ideas) will be shit and destined to fail  (just like conventional investments) ....... but some- will no doubt produce the goods...

It is simply a different (and as of yet UNREGULATED)  mechanism for fundraising -  nothing more , nothing less..

[d_eddie]

My thoughts exactly. So, where are the ones that are not? To my naive mind, ICOs look like a way to rake money without getting one's company ownership swayed as it would be with VC. I'm glad they're being regulated. Want capital? Gimme stocks, so I own (at least part of) what I paid you, so I can vote if I paid enough. You give me these sumthincoins and if (when) value goes to zero, we're good? Meaning YOU're good and I'm out of luck? No way.

That's a nice thought, except that you don't really own the stocks, nor part of the company. See my post here for details:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2098580.msg21161390#msg21161390

Uh. Some of the things you say are news to me. I don't mean I don't believe you. But... but surely if I own a certain percentage of the stock... surely I mean...  I do get my say, right? Eh...? Right??  (breaking into tears)... And I thought... MOMMYYYYYY!!! Bwaaa, waahh!!! 

[CristiTCM]

The price still going down . If it goes under $4000, i have loss. Should i sell now?

No. You are an investor, not a trader. Hold firm and the price will go up above 4k soon enough.

Sold them! The tension was too high lol . Maybe i buy again at a cheaper price

[BitcoinNewsMagazine]

A 23.6% correction is overdue and would take us to $3840:

[bones261]

The price still going down . If it goes under $4000, i have loss. Should i sell now?

No. You are an investor, not a trader. Hold firm and the price will go up above 4k soon enough.

Sold them! The tension was too high lol . Maybe i buy again at a cheaper price

If you do get back in, consider investing a lesser amount. Perhaps an amount that is less likely to make you feel overly tense. Also, restrain yourself if the price starts soaring again. The two worst things to do when investing is to panic sell or FOMO buy.

[Last of the V8s]

Sold them! The tension was too high lol . Maybe i buy again at a cheaper price

Get the fuck out here, He-Pussy.

Weak hands make me sick.

meh. they make me rich

[JayJuanGee]

Everyone's happy and so sure of themselves and how big smart smarts they are when it goes up but when it goes down they get mad! Funny how it is. They covet cheap coins, then they finally get ¿cheap? coins and they don't even want them! 

You are just making shit up to support your dumb-ass narrative, hoping for cheaper coins for yourself to buy back in.

What's your target price, nutjob?

[TheRealProphet]

I've sold all my bitcoins, bitcoin is dead now. Sell everything while you can, I've warned you.

[CristiTCM]

Sold them! The tension was too high lol . Maybe i buy again at a cheaper price

Get the fuck out here, He-Pussy.

Weak hands make me sick.

sorry, i'm just a newbie

[gentlemand]

I've sold all my bitcoins, bitcoin is dead now. Sell everything while you can, I've warned you.

Gosh.

[JayJuanGee]

[edited out]

Maybe I am asking silly questions because I'm a newbie? lol
Want to know about how segwit, segwitx2, and whatever is bcash are working. But purely technical features. Not biased arguments on either side
Any useful info? thanks
 

Maybe you should start a thread on that topic?  Your purported topic seems pretty specific and technical as you say and not really directly related to the topic of this thread.  which is wall observation, price speculation, beating up on banker shill trolls and other random non-serious topics.