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November 28, 2017, 07:30:03 AM
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 Grin  Grin  Grin
weeeeeeeee 10K kaboom

LSD you say?



Still a way to go yet to $10kUSD.

Go Bitcoin go.  Cool

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November 28, 2017, 07:38:06 AM

Nice observation Tera, now what does the next bearish movement hold! Does it loom as you suggest with near completion of our ~10x gain pre/post destruction of the old gox ATH.

I was not here in 2013, did people think that the run-up was the beginning of mass adoption then? Currently, I see the visibility of BTC so high, and the $$$ invested so great that it feels like we are going to be ramping up farther to the inflection of an adoption S-curve. Or maybe  the public's attention is polar and fickle, and this is just another classic example of cultish optimism seen in all around the crypto world.

Anyway, ride or die with BTC. And jam on Jimbo!
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November 28, 2017, 08:08:49 AM

Can someone explain exactly what gives BCH its value of $1600? Is that how much people think BTC will fail and revert to BCH or what?
Most crypto currency trader or investor usually go for coin that was supported by much wallet and exchange and bitcoin cash has support from the get go. Therefore, this help Bitcoin cash secure the top #5 in the coin cap market once it was implemented but when the situation of miner switching to bitcoin cash happened this give bitcoin cash a massive increase in price.
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November 28, 2017, 08:09:29 AM

Also, who remembers the $1k Bitcoin party...

I do. Didn't last long though.

It wasn't the most fun for me as I was coming to realize I wasn't going to get my 50 coins back from Gox and I had <100 coins left.

Luckily 2014-5 gave me the opportunity to buy back many more than I lost.

This time I was much calmer. The day my Bitcoin stash was first worth over $1mCAD, I spent $1.2k on a new ultra-light powerful bass amp (bought with fiat) and had a few beverages.

I'm still gonna wait for the price to double a few more times before getting into my stash and making any real purchases. Anything under $10m is still just comfortable. I'd like to experience being rich before I get too old to enjoy it.

You don't need to disclose any further details or admit to anything; however, I am going to place you in the about 160BTC club (give or take 15 coins); therefore, having a $10million portfolio is going to require $62,500 value for bitcoins, and surely you do not need that much dough, as an old foggie to live comfortably. 

I am actually going to quibble with your target and suggest that anything in the $2million to $5million territory is going to be sufficient for you to start withdrawing some value - and surely you need not withdraw principle, because it is likely that anything you withdraw is going to be far and above your principle investment.  Therefore with a more splurgy investment, you could start withdrawing at $12,500, and the most conservative of the range, you would start withdrawing at $31k - which really I think is much too unnecessary, especially given your old foggie status.   Tongue


Hahahaha... that is called "unsolicited advice"... I concede that we all hate unsolicited advice.
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November 28, 2017, 08:17:49 AM
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Nice observation Tera, now what does the next bearish movement hold! Does it loom as you suggest with near completion of our ~10x gain pre/post destruction of the old gox ATH.

I was not here in 2013, did people think that the run-up was the beginning of mass adoption then? Currently, I see the visibility of BTC so high, and the $$$ invested so great that it feels like we are going to be ramping up farther to the inflection of an adoption S-curve. Or maybe  the public's attention is polar and fickle, and this is just another classic example of cultish optimism seen in all around the crypto world.

Anyway, ride or die with BTC. And jam on Jimbo!
Of course. Every time BTC is rallying its "Bitcoin is getting big, the attitude of bitcoin has changed, and itll never crash". Its hard to make a prediction. We could go up to the moon first but probably still dip to $3K afterwards. $3K is based on the last deep horizontal support on the chart but still seems quite generous considering ATH gain is usually near-completely erased.

Watch out for all these lines as significant levels for bounces.



The red line is just an illustration and not a prediction.
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November 28, 2017, 08:32:45 AM

Over $9.8k both Stamp and Finex.

Go Bitcoin go.


$10k is beginning to feel imminent and inevitable... perhaps within the hour, or two hours at most?  I am going to have to stay up for this...


Please don't let me (us) down, bitcoin!!!!!!


O.k.  I will concede that at this particular moment, I am a little bit of a party poop...........


However, I did set my bitcoin alarm at $9,951.67  (on bitstamp), so I am going to suggest that at that new price point of $9,951.67 , then $10k and above is going to be "imminent and inevitable"  - I am talking bitstamp...  - however, before that, I am going to have to go sleepy pie.  So behave yourselves, and don't be trying to avoid me by celebrating $10k on all the other exchanges, and without me or bistamp... o.k?   Wink
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November 28, 2017, 08:34:10 AM

I kind of like this coin, being a cat owner and all. https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/kittehcoin/
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November 28, 2017, 08:56:10 AM

Nice observation Tera, now what does the next bearish movement hold! Does it loom as you suggest with near completion of our ~10x gain pre/post destruction of the old gox ATH.

I was not here in 2013, did people think that the run-up was the beginning of mass adoption then? Currently, I see the visibility of BTC so high, and the $$$ invested so great that it feels like we are going to be ramping up farther to the inflection of an adoption S-curve. Or maybe  the public's attention is polar and fickle, and this is just another classic example of cultish optimism seen in all around the crypto world.

Anyway, ride or die with BTC. And jam on Jimbo!
Of course. Every time BTC is rallying its "Bitcoin is getting big, the attitude of bitcoin has changed, and itll never crash". Its hard to make a prediction. We could go up to the moon first but probably still dip to $3K afterwards. $3K is based on the last deep horizontal support on the chart but still seems quite generous considering ATH gain is usually near-completely erased.

Watch out for all these lines as significant levels for bounces.



The red line is just an illustration and not a prediction.

I am happy to take a bet that we see $15k before $3k. Smiley
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November 28, 2017, 09:17:05 AM

Everyone got their champagne ready?  Grin

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November 28, 2017, 09:24:34 AM

10k today?
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November 28, 2017, 09:30:43 AM

10k today?

Only $20 to go on https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitcoin/#markets
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November 28, 2017, 09:33:23 AM

10k today?

Next two hours - my estimate...  Grin
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November 28, 2017, 09:35:01 AM

30 mins.
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November 28, 2017, 09:38:01 AM

Guys we have 10k! See on coingecko!!!
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November 28, 2017, 09:43:10 AM

Of course. Every time BTC is rallying its "Bitcoin is getting big, the attitude of bitcoin has changed, and itll never crash". Its hard to make a prediction. We could go up to the moon first but probably still dip to $3K afterwards. $3K is based on the last deep horizontal support on the chart but still seems quite generous considering ATH gain is usually near-completely erased.

Watch out for all these lines as significant levels for bounces.



The red line is just an illustration and not a prediction.


I like your TA graphic style very much in fact.
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November 28, 2017, 09:44:15 AM

Nice observation Tera, now what does the next bearish movement hold! Does it loom as you suggest with near completion of our ~10x gain pre/post destruction of the old gox ATH.

I was not here in 2013, did people think that the run-up was the beginning of mass adoption then? Currently, I see the visibility of BTC so high, and the $$$ invested so great that it feels like we are going to be ramping up farther to the inflection of an adoption S-curve. Or maybe  the public's attention is polar and fickle, and this is just another classic example of cultish optimism seen in all around the crypto world.

Anyway, ride or die with BTC. And jam on Jimbo!
Of course. Every time BTC is rallying its "Bitcoin is getting big, the attitude of bitcoin has changed, and itll never crash". Its hard to make a prediction. We could go up to the moon first but probably still dip to $3K afterwards. $3K is based on the last deep horizontal support on the chart but still seems quite generous considering ATH gain is usually near-completely erased.

Watch out for all these lines as significant levels for bounces.



The red line is just an illustration and not a prediction.


I think you forget about the last dip on euro we dipped to €4700 from €6500
So if u think we Will reach $3k your wrong

I shall Tell you Why,

When we hitted €4xxx we dipped beceause of the bad news to €2500-€2700 After this
We reached €6xxx And then again beceause of the bad news we dipped to lowest of all €46xx-€47xx
Now were going to €8xxx + And the dip if it comes atleast we lower to maybe €5xxx

So i think your wrong there Will Be No $3k
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16$ to go !!
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November 28, 2017, 09:52:07 AM

Also, who remembers the $1k Bitcoin party...

I do. Didn't last long though.

It wasn't the most fun for me as I was coming to realize I wasn't going to get my 50 coins back from Gox and I had <100 coins left.

Luckily 2014-5 gave me the opportunity to buy back many more than I lost.

This time I was much calmer. The day my Bitcoin stash was first worth over $1mCAD, I spent $1.2k on a new ultra-light powerful bass amp (bought with fiat) and had a few beverages.

I'm still gonna wait for the price to double a few more times before getting into my stash and making any real purchases. Anything under $10m is still just comfortable. I'd like to experience being rich before I get too old to enjoy it.

You don't need to disclose any further details or admit to anything; however, I am going to place you in the about 160BTC club (give or take 15 coins); therefore, having a $10million portfolio is going to require $62,500 value for bitcoins, and surely you do not need that much dough, as an old foggie to live comfortably. 

I am actually going to quibble with your target and suggest that anything in the $2million to $5million territory is going to be sufficient for you to start withdrawing some value - and surely you need not withdraw principle, because it is likely that anything you withdraw is going to be far and above your principle investment.  Therefore with a more splurgy investment, you could start withdrawing at $12,500, and the most conservative of the range, you would start withdrawing at $31k - which really I think is much too unnecessary, especially given your old foggie status.   Tongue


Hahahaha... that is called "unsolicited advice"... I concede that we all hate unsolicited advice.

Without disclosing exactly how many I have (your estimate is a bit off), I could have started spending some of my coins a while ago but since I'm still earning elsewhere, I'd rather keep acquiring more coins, albeit in much smaller amounts. Keeping busy helps keep you young and I learned long ago that prosperity comes in cycles.

When I was 20, my GF was the ex-wife of a brain surgeon so we lived pretty high off the hog. We had way too much spending money for kids our age.

After Uncle Sam decided I wasn't contributing enough to the American economy and suggested I leave of my own free will, I fell on tougher times back in Toronto. I moved into a cheap rooming house and scrambled to keep myself fed. Only stubbornness kept me from moving into my parents' home, collecting welfare, or getting a job. I scraped and hustled to earn any money I could and learned to live on almost nothing.

When I finally broke down and got a job I maintained my thriftiness. I kept spending to a minimum and earned extra money playing music at night while keeping up my day job.  I only bought things that were cheap enough to resell at a profit. I kept hustling any buck I could. Slowly I accumulated enough to finally quit employment for good and live completely off of music and hustles.

If a band broke up and my musical income was interrupted, I was back to scrounging to feed myself again. I still tell the story about how, after we'd eaten all the stale pasta with takeout squeeze-packet sauce, all we had was oatmeal. We had it with old brown sugar for breakfast, chicken bouillon cube porridge for lunch and Oxo porridge for dinner. Employment, welfare and panhandling were not options.

By the time I was in my 40s, I'd managed to acquire 3 properties in downtown Toronto while still maintaining dirt-cheap tenancy in an old house next to the train tracks. My 8 tenants paid my mortgages, taxes and maintenance costs, and gave me a good income as well. I slowly started falling into bad habits. I started to eat in restaurants and take taxicabs. I bought a trailer and kept a country place. I started living high off the hog again.

When prime minister Brian Mulroney "Cooled down the over-heated Canadian economy to wrestle inflation to the ground" everything changed again. My mortgage rates tripled, I had to lower my rents because of soaring unemployment and a collapsing local real estate market. My properties weren't worth what they were mortgaged for. Then I was involved as a passenger in a head-on highway collision.

Since I wasn't an employee and had no registered business, the insurance company gave me nothing. They offered me an insulting pittance for pain and suffering, but I refused it and retained a civil litigation lawyer. It took 2 years to see a penny. In the meantime I was unable to earn, confined to a wheelchair and crutches. The banks foreclosed on my mortgages and I was forced to declare bankruptcy.

Due to a precedent in an Ontario court in the 1920s, it was determined that the bankruptcy trustee couldn't touch any receivables from an auto accident settlement. Meanwhile the insurance company played hardball, not reaching a settlement until we'd already set a court date. I was forced to go on welfare, which paid for most of the cost of my rent. To subsist I was forced to sell some of my instruments and roll up my old nickels and pennies to buy cheap raw food. I ate a meal a day at a local soup kitchen. Then finally my lawyer called to say he'd received the minutes of settlement from the insurance company. I went and signed the papers and went straight to the trustee to declare bankruptcy. The next day, I went and picked up my settlement check, took it to the bank where it was written and got it certified, then went straight to my local bank branch and opened an account, withdrawing $5k in cash to pay off actual people I owed money to. I was a real person again.

Since then, I've done okay for myself but I'll always try to maintain my poverty buying habits. Never borrow. Buy only to earn, not to spend. Avoid banks. I'll try to maintain this attitude even if I become very wealthy.

This is why I'll keep holding, and buying the dips.
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November 28, 2017, 10:11:58 AM

Nice story Jimbo.  I see that we joined this forum within four days of each other back in 2013! I'm more of a lurker than a poster but I've enjoyed your contributions here and enjoyed riding this train with you. I almost lost faith during the long bear run in 2014/15 but thankfully kept my coins.

Congrats to you and all of us hodlers  Grin
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