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December 19, 2017, 03:33:30 AM


 I've actually given a lot of thought to running a well funded LN node, and play with fee arbitration.

 Lock away my Bitcoin so it makes more Bitcoin for me ?

 Sign me up for that shit.


I think the caveat is that it has to be in a hot wallet, or am I mistaken?

I think a lot of people are thinking the same thing and a huge p2p LN will pop up made up of such individuals.
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December 19, 2017, 04:20:56 AM

https://twitter.com/danrobinson/status/942838041357570048

So now that Bitcoin has smart contracts capability, ETH is needed for...?

for the blockchain platform Ethereum provides, which allows people and companies to build their projects on. Bitcoin doesn't offer the blockchain, Ethereum does. Ethereum's business model is more tangible to businesses, governments, organizations that Bitcoin because it allows those entities to build projects and processes off the blockchain without having to code and develop and test their own!
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December 19, 2017, 04:24:52 AM

https://twitter.com/danrobinson/status/942838041357570048

So now that Bitcoin has smart contracts capability, ETH is needed for...?

for the blockchain platform Ethereum provides, which allows people and companies to build their projects on. Bitcoin doesn't offer the blockchain, Ethereum does. Ethereum's business model is more tangible to businesses, governments, organizations that Bitcoin because it allows those entities to build projects and processes off the blockchain without having to code and develop and test their own!

Did ETH figure out how to unstuck those latest coins from that latest fiasco?
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December 19, 2017, 04:26:50 AM

https://twitter.com/danrobinson/status/942838041357570048

So now that Bitcoin has smart contracts capability, ETH is needed for...?

for the blockchain platform Ethereum provides, which allows people and companies to build their projects on. Bitcoin doesn't offer the blockchain, Ethereum does. Ethereum's business model is more tangible to businesses, governments, organizations that Bitcoin because it allows those entities to build projects and processes off the blockchain without having to code and develop and test their own!

Even if that were the case... Why not just use ETC instead? Is there any advantage ETH offers over ETC for running those contracts?

Unless you consider an advantage Vitalik being able to rollback the "blockchain" at will any time a HUGE fuckup happens again.
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December 19, 2017, 04:29:21 AM

https://twitter.com/danrobinson/status/942838041357570048

So now that Bitcoin has smart contracts capability, ETH is needed for...?

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December 19, 2017, 04:58:12 AM

Not sure this is true about capital gains and income taxes....Puerto Rico

I've been posting that fact here every month or two. But nobody listens to me. ::sniff::
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December 19, 2017, 05:09:27 AM

BTCBTC$ price follows pages: #?    Roll Eyes   weeee
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December 19, 2017, 05:10:56 AM

Not sure this is true about capital gains and income taxes....Puerto Rico

I've been posting that fact here every month or two. But nobody listens to me. ::sniff::

This post ranks high on Torque's clinical narcissist test.  

This is not always about you, Jbear!
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December 19, 2017, 05:24:27 AM

Jiihan Wu,(or one of his friends,)  set up a parody site to malign it and BTC at the same time, soon after their announcement. https://tulipmining.com/

Just curious - any evidence for that assertion?
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December 19, 2017, 06:12:18 AM

https://twitter.com/danrobinson/status/942838041357570048

So now that Bitcoin has smart contracts capability, ETH is needed for...?

for the blockchain platform Ethereum provides, which allows people and companies to build their projects on. Bitcoin doesn't offer the blockchain, Ethereum does. Ethereum's business model is more tangible to businesses, governments, organizations that Bitcoin because it allows those entities to build projects and processes off the blockchain without having to code and develop and test their own!

If you think you can run smart contracts without having to code, develop and test, then you have clearly never built anything in Solidity. 
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December 19, 2017, 06:30:30 AM

This seems legit, Coinbase made an ACE move with this.

Let's sink this in; Coinbase+Lightning. Cool





hxxps://www.lightningramp.com/

Cert provided by letsencrypt? Yeeah definitely scam
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December 19, 2017, 06:48:50 AM

I also foresee that major card issuers of the future (TenX, Monaco) will offer minor small fee payments between participants within their systems.
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December 19, 2017, 06:51:26 AM

Piccolo blew up the moon
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December 19, 2017, 07:29:39 AM

BCH seems to be doing its own thing and unhinged from BTC now. Now the trade against BTC is ETH
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Last edit: December 19, 2017, 07:49:15 AM by AlcoHoDL

So here it is, perhaps 12 levels could accommodate most of us and show some progression in our financial well-being (especially if we did the right thing in regards to buying, accumulating and hodling bitcoin):

First we start at:

1. supported by the parents [ 0 BTC ]

2. living paycheck to paycheck  [ 0-1 BTC ]

3. having a bit of a reserve and using that reserve to invest in bitcoin [ 1-3 BTC ]

4. getting by with a cushion [ 3-5 BTC ]

5. comfortable [ 5-10 BTC ]

6. sassy and splurging a bit [ 10-15 BTC ]

7. well off [ 15-30 BTC ]

8. feeling rich, but not yet there [ 30-100 BTC ]

9. moderately rich [ 100-250 BTC ]

10. rich [ 250-1000 BTC ]

11. this is gentlemen [ 1000-10000 BTC ]

12. filthy rich [ 10000+ BTC ]

I've added some values, and made some slight changes to the order and naming. Removed "wealthy", as it conveys a different meaning and I believe it should not appear in the list. This is how I see it, based on my own perception of wealth status, and based on one's current BTC holdings. I'm sure each of us would use different amounts of BTC for each category...

The remarkable thing about Bitcoin is that in 12 months from now you can remove one least significant digit from each value range, and the list will still hold true!
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December 19, 2017, 07:58:30 AM

Some of the low ones are a little off. Living paycheck to paycheck would be more like 0.01btc and not 1btc.
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December 19, 2017, 08:01:00 AM

So here it is, perhaps 12 levels could accommodate most of us and show some progression in our financial well-being (especially if we did the right thing in regards to buying, accumulating and hodling bitcoin):

First we start at:

1. supported by the parents [ 0 BTC ]

2. living paycheck to paycheck  [ 0-1 BTC ]

3. having a bit of a reserve and using that reserve to invest in bitcoin [ 1-3 BTC ]

4. getting by with a cushion [ 3-5 BTC ]

5. comfortable [ 5-10 BTC ]

6. sassy and splurging a bit [ 10-15 BTC ]

7. well off [ 15-30 BTC ]

8. feeling rich, but not yet there [ 30-100 BTC ]

9. moderately rich [ 100-250 BTC ]

10. rich [ 250-1000 BTC ]

11. this is gentlemen [ 1000-10000 BTC ]

12. filthy rich [ 10000+ BTC ]

I've added some values, and made some slight changes to the order and naming. Removed "wealthy", as it conveys a different meaning and I believe it should not appear in the list. This is how I see it, based on my own perception of wealth status, and based on one's current BTC holdings. I'm sure each of us would use different amounts of BTC for each category...

The remarkable thing about Bitcoin is that in 12 months from now you can remove one least significant digit from each value range, and the list will still hold true!

So $150,000,000 isn't considered "filthy rich"?
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December 19, 2017, 08:04:33 AM

Some of the low ones are a little off. Living paycheck to paycheck would be more like 0.01btc and not 1btc.
Nah, you can't actually sell anything if you only have 1. Not if you want it to last.
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December 19, 2017, 08:05:25 AM

All coins up big and BTC still at the same level. Can't wait till the alt-money is gonna be dumped into BTC.  Grin
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