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December 20, 2017, 01:19:36 AM

You guys are hilarious.   That just shows futures pricing following the underlying commodity pricing.

We still haven’t reached last weeks price.  Is this the very best you can do after months of planning?
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December 20, 2017, 01:20:56 AM

Ok serious question u guys

in what way is Btc better than BCash ?

from what i read online

BCash does everything btc does only better

Blaspheme

cmon
i want an answer

much lower fees, more transactions
so how is btc better ?

I think this is a religious forum we are not allowed to ask those questions.

The public is getting it slowly... How can you say that a currency is going to be the future when you can't even use it as a currency anymore...?
Do you get paid before the artificial pump or afterwards? And how much does Satan pay you to give him a good penile vacuuming?
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December 20, 2017, 01:21:13 AM

Ok serious question u guys

in what way is Btc better than BCash ?

from what i read online

BCash does everything btc does only better


SegWit Coin has far superior censorship going on ...


I mean who on Earth with a straight face can say it's better to have 50$+ TX fees and over 250k unconfirmed transactions ?

Just to wait for Lightning Networks? Which nobody knows if it ever will work and it will create on top centralized Super Hubs which Banks are going to control because it requires a license as money transmitter...


And the trolls start their bla bla bla... Gonna have to unignore someone to make room for you. Welcome!
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December 20, 2017, 01:21:31 AM

Ok serious question u guys

in what way is Btc better than BCash ?

from what i read online

BCash does everything btc does only better


SegWit Coin has far superior censorship going on ...


I mean who on Earth with a straight face can say it's better to have 50$+ TX fees and over 250k unconfirmed transactions ?

Just to wait for Lightning Networks? Which nobody knows if it ever will work and it will create on top centralized Super Hubs which Banks are going to control because it requires a license as money transmitter...

You two sound like Abbott & Costello. But your lines are a little stale.
Inject some more humour in what you say, or an animal fury like Roach, or a peculiar writing style.
Think something up, and I won't add you both to my ignore list.
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December 20, 2017, 01:22:27 AM

If anyone bother to check, they can see that BTC is transferring consistently $30 ~ 50 billion value over the internet in the past weeks.  This is more than ALL the ALT COMBINED!  So it is functioning as designed, i.e. an internet value transfer protocol with a daily $10 million+ fee market that incentivize profit seeking miners to secure it.  

Please point to where the stats are for value transfered on anonymous crypto chains.  I'd like to see for myself what  is entailed in this "ALL the ALT COMBINED" total.

Thanks
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December 20, 2017, 01:22:53 AM

Actually CBOE and CME contracts have barely any volumes, at least compared to spot market.  I bet those derivative players wish that they are in cahoot with Coinbase for insider news such as this.  But at least it could serve as a game plan/rehearsal for future attacks.
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December 20, 2017, 01:23:04 AM




Bcash v Bitcoin


Let the hunger games begin!! Smiley

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December 20, 2017, 01:24:21 AM

...And there I was thinking 'tonight I am finally going to get a good night sleep'
Not!

I might dump everything just so that I can sleep again
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December 20, 2017, 01:25:10 AM

If anyone bother to check, they can see that BTC is transferring consistently $30 ~ 50 billion value over the internet in the past weeks.  This is more than ALL the ALT COMBINED!  So it is functioning as designed, i.e. an internet value transfer protocol with a daily $10 million+ fee market that incentivize profit seeking miners to secure it.  

Please point to where the stats are for value transfered on anonymous crypto chains.  I'd like to see for myself what  is entailed in this "ALL the ALT COMBINED" total.

Thanks


The best link is this one.  You can add your favorite crypto too as they are surprisingly some small alt that see significant transaction volume in fiat terms.  Might be due to the occasional pump-and-dump though.  Now obviously it does not work for XMR or similar ccy.

https://bitinfocharts.com/comparison/sentinusd-btc-eth-bch-ltc.html#3m
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December 20, 2017, 01:25:55 AM


Ok serious question u guys

in what way is Btc better than BCash ?

It sticks to optimising its monetary priorities and doesn't try to be something it's not.

BCash pretends to be a "fast" coin than can scale and support realtime payments but it's nothing of the sort. Doing realtime payments requires a distinct security model at the front end of the confirmation cycle. The only blockchains that have that are Dash (on-chain) and presently the Lightning Network (off-chain).

Meanwhile Bitcoin is trying to protect and enhance its store-of-value properties by focusing its development priorities on security and conservative design at the expense of on-chain performance (which it can easily afford because it's still 8640 times faster at settlements than the clearing banks at 20 minutes vs 48 hours.

So BCash is basically a plastic toy that's of no use to nobody other than as a protest coin for purchasing low-flying toys eminating from Roger Ver's pram. Fallen through the crack between two genuinely worthy objectives priorities and which does justice to neither.
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December 20, 2017, 01:26:43 AM

Ok serious question u guys

in what way is Btc better than BCash ?

from what i read online

BCash does everything btc does only better


SegWit Coin has far superior censorship going on ...


I mean who on Earth with a straight face can say it's better to have 50$+ TX fees and over 250k unconfirmed transactions ?

Just to wait for Lightning Networks? Which nobody knows if it ever will work and it will create on top centralized Super Hubs which Banks are going to control because it requires a license as money transmitter...


And the trolls start their bla bla bla... Gonna have to unignore someone to make room for you. Welcome!

I don't even care... If you think you are safe in your Censorship bubble ... You might want to listen to the price movement in the upcoming weeks and months.
More and more people are getting it that Lightning Networks is the real bubble they believed in...
Maybe the price will speak louder and make people understand what is going on.
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December 20, 2017, 01:28:17 AM

Ok serious question u guys

in what way is Btc better than BCash ?

It sticks to optimising its monetary priorities and doesn't try to be something it's not.

BCash pretends to be a "fast" coin than can scale and support realtime payments but it's nothing of the sort. Doing realtime payments requires a distinct security model at the front end of the confirmation cycle. The only blockchains that have that are Dash (on-chain) and presently the Lightning Network (off-chain).

Meanwhile Bitcoin is trying to protect and enhance its store-of-value properties by focusing its development priorities on security and conservative design at the expense of on-chain performance (which is can easily afford because it's still 8640 times faster at settlements than the clearing banks at 20 minutes vs 48 hours.

So BCash is basically a plastic toy that's of no use to nobody other than as a protest coin for purchasing low-flying toys eminating from Roger Ver's pram. Fallen through the crack between two genuinely worthy monetary priorities and which does justice to neither.

thanks
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December 20, 2017, 01:28:31 AM

If anyone bother to check, they can see that BTC is transferring consistently $30 ~ 50 billion value over the internet in the past weeks.  This is more than ALL the ALT COMBINED!  So it is functioning as designed, i.e. an internet value transfer protocol with a daily $10 million+ fee market that incentivize profit seeking miners to secure it.  

Please point to where the stats are for value transfered on anonymous crypto chains.  I'd like to see for myself what  is entailed in this "ALL the ALT COMBINED" total.

Thanks


The best link is this one.  You can add your favorite crypto too as they are surprisingly some small alt that see significant transaction volume in fiat terms.  Might be due to the occasional pump-and-dump though.  Now obviously it does not work for XMR or similar ccy.

https://bitinfocharts.com/comparison/sentinusd-btc-eth-bch-ltc.html#3m

Huh.

https://bitinfocharts.com/comparison/sentinusd-btc-eth-bch-ltc-xmr.html#3m

You're right, it doesn't work Cheesy
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December 20, 2017, 01:29:05 AM

How do I vote for 23k on the Dec 31 poll? The $22k-$24k range is missing.
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December 20, 2017, 01:32:49 AM

How do I vote for 23k on the Dec 31 poll? The $22k-$24k range is missing.

Both me and JJG already pointed this out a few days ago, but infofront probably missed our posts. I'm also waiting for him to add that missing range, so I can vote...
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December 20, 2017, 01:33:06 AM

Ok serious question u guys

in what way is Btc better than BCash ?

from what i read online

BCash does everything btc does only better


SegWit Coin has far superior censorship going on ...


I mean who on Earth with a straight face can say it's better to have 50$+ TX fees and over 250k unconfirmed transactions ?

Just to wait for Lightning Networks? Which nobody knows if it ever will work and it will create on top centralized Super Hubs which Banks are going to control because it requires a license as money transmitter...


And the trolls start their bla bla bla... Gonna have to unignore someone to make room for you. Welcome!

I don't even care... If you think you are safe in your Censorship bubble ... You might want to listen to the price movement in the upcoming weeks and months.
More and more people are getting it that Lightning Networks is the real bubble they believed in...
Maybe the price will speak louder and make people understand what is going on.
More and more people? There's complete silence almost aching to a primordial void whenever BTrash isn't in the middle of an adorable toddler's attack.
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December 20, 2017, 01:33:15 AM

In the equities world, the whale traders use fake news and insider trading on earnings and announcements to induce volatility and scam the weak hands out of their shares.

In the crypto world, Bitcoin has no such things as earnings or announcements per se. After all the hacks and exploits were over, it had no enemies or threats left either.

So the establishment had to create one in order to facilitate FUD and trading volatility: BCash.
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December 20, 2017, 01:35:59 AM

Lol BCH @ $9500 on GDAX..
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December 20, 2017, 01:37:26 AM

In the equities world, the whale traders use fake news and insider trading on earnings and announcements to induce volatility and scam the weak hands out of their shares.

In the crypto world, Bitcoin has no such things as earnings or announcements per se. After all the hacks and exploits were over, it had no enemies or threats left either.

So the establishment had to create one in order to facilitate FUD and trading volatility: BCash.

Call me paranoid, but I can't help wondering if some/all of the fork BS is just to shake coins into moving, so the alphabet agencies can better map the blockchain.
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December 20, 2017, 01:37:43 AM

Lol BCH @ $9500 on GDAX..

I'm furiously trying to sell lol
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