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Question: How far will this leg take us?
$110K - 9 (8.3%)
$120K - 19 (17.6%)
$130K - 17 (15.7%)
$140K - 9 (8.3%)
$150K - 19 (17.6%)
$160K - 2 (1.9%)
$170K+ - 33 (30.6%)
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December 20, 2017, 01:41:17 AM

In the equities world, the whale traders use fake news and insider trading on earnings and announcements to induce volatility and scam the weak hands out of their shares.

In the crypto world, Bitcoin has no such things as earnings or announcements per se. After all the hacks and exploits were over, it had no enemies or threats left either.

So the establishment had to create one in order to facilitate FUD and trading volatility: BCash.

Call me paranoid, but I can't help wondering if some/all of the fork BS is just to shake coins into moving, so the alphabet agencies can better map the blockchain.
In the equities world, the whale traders use fake news and insider trading on earnings and announcements to induce volatility and scam the weak hands out of their shares.

In the crypto world, Bitcoin has no such things as earnings or announcements per se. After all the hacks and exploits were over, it had no enemies or threats left either.

So the establishment had to create one in order to facilitate FUD and trading volatility: BCash.
I wouldn't be surprised at all. Wouldn't be the first time that large entities try to use other people's creations to screw everybody else over.

Sometimes I wish there was a way to peak behind the curtains. But then I'm not sure if these events would be anywhere near as exciting if I had full information of what was going on.
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December 20, 2017, 01:41:43 AM

In the equities world, the whale traders use fake news and insider trading on earnings and announcements to induce volatility and scam the weak hands out of their shares.

In the crypto world, Bitcoin has no such things as earnings or announcements per se. After all the hacks and exploits were over, it had no enemies or threats left either.

So the establishment had to create one in order to facilitate FUD and trading volatility: BCash.

Call me paranoid, but I can't help wondering if some/all of the fork BS is just to shake coins into moving, so the alphabet agencies can better map the blockchain.

Well I don't know about that, but what I do know is if you look at all the drama of this past year, it was crystal clear that they were going to prop up some sort of enemy/competitor to Bitcoin. Whether it was BU, SegWit2X, or BCash, they didn't really care which one. That was obvious. They just needed SOMETHING. They were absolutely frantic to get something launched. Because without that, they have no way at all to induce FUD back into the Bitcoin game. None. Fake news regarding Bitcoin doesn't work anymore. They needed a real threat, with miner support.
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December 20, 2017, 01:42:05 AM

How the fuck is BCash 9500 on gdax... what a fucking joke.
Wash trading. Just like last time. And the time before.
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December 20, 2017, 01:42:22 AM

How the fuck is BCash 9500 on gdax... what a fucking joke.
Wash trading. Just like last time. And the time before.

Ah, you can't sell.
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December 20, 2017, 01:43:13 AM

How do I vote for 23k on the Dec 31 poll ?

The $22k-$24k
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Both me and JJG already pointed this out a few days ago, but infofront probably missed our posts. I'm also waiting for him to add that missing range, so I can vote...
Ah. Maybe my post will stand out more and get noticed?
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December 20, 2017, 01:44:17 AM

How do I vote for 23k on the Dec 31 poll ?

The $22k-$24k
range
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Both me and JJG already pointed this out a few days ago, but infofront probably missed our posts. I'm also waiting for him to add that missing range, so I can vote...
Ah. Maybe my post will stand out more and get noticed?
Moving too quickly right now. Try again after the BTrash crap is over, again.
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December 20, 2017, 01:46:12 AM

How the fuck is BCash 9500 on gdax... what a fucking joke.
Wash trading. Just like last time. And the time before.

Ah, you can't sell.

Coinbase is struggling... Buying is disabled I tried both on the android app and I can't login through web, so I guess whatever we see is completely unreliable
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December 20, 2017, 01:47:02 AM

We live in a non linear world full of linear expectations.
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The head is round so that thinking can change direction.
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December 20, 2017, 01:47:57 AM

at this rate
bcash may surpass btc soon
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December 20, 2017, 01:49:10 AM

How do we get the word out there that Roger Ver is the most hated man in crypto?

Sites like this are sadly out of date:
https://themerkle.com/top-4-worst-people-in-cryptocurrency-history/

Maybe we need a voting site with cryptographic proof?

Off the top of my head the contenders would be:

1. Roger Ver
2. Mark Karpeles
3. Craig Wright
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December 20, 2017, 01:49:26 AM

Pump it to 10k Rog, we'll all join then,  promise  Roll Eyes
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December 20, 2017, 01:51:18 AM

I guess out next stop will be $14k, then bounce back.

Many alarms are now ringing for the sell.


It's only three  weeks ago that bitcoin made a $10000 ATH. Today's price isn't too bad compared to that.

Kraken still below 10k. After that wall got eaten it'll be mostly empty, too. All bitcoins sold out soon? Cheesy

I assumed bitstamp would be the last to break $10k but bit-x is still below $10k too.

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the kraken's just joined the $10k party and there's only a 10 coin wall before $10k on bit-x..



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December 20, 2017, 01:52:24 AM

How do we get the word out there that Roger Ver is the most hated man in crypto?

Does it need to be spelled out? Look at his tweets. One comment from him followed by 10-30 metres of abuse. He even gets the shit downvoted out of him on r/btc these days.
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December 20, 2017, 01:54:34 AM

Did your ATM let you withdraw 2 $2.5k transactions anonymously (without ID) a few weeks ago? I assumed you must have provided ID scans to get that kind of limit allowed.

No ID required. To maintain a daily limit for the purpose of AML laws, they require a cell phone on which you can receive text messages.

To sell coins, you enter your cell number and they immediately text you a code number to enter into the ATM. This unlocks the ATM and allows you to do the transaction. After you have specified the amount of the transaction, it displays a QR code to scan with your mobile hot wallet.

It then tells you to wait for the transaction to be confirmed by the network. I always include a priority fee and it has always been included in the next block. After it has been confirmed, it texts you and tells you to return to the ATM and tap "redeem".  They then text you another code number. When you enter that number it immediately starts spitting out $100 bills.

The time it takes for the whole process depends on the time it takes to confirm the TX. It has never taken me more than a half hour.

The cell phone I use is an anonymous pay-as-you-go Speakout flip-phone from a 711 store. I have several of them (all free from promotions) in case I ever need to exceed my daily limit. Because Speakout allows free texting even when the time has run out, they cost nothing and are always available.

The Android device I use for the Mycellium wallet to sweep a paper wallet and send the coins, is a cheapie Blu phone they were giving away for free for buying an air-time top-up in a holiday promotion a couple of years ago. To get Android to boot up I had to insert a SIM card but I found that a non-activated card worked just fine. The SIM card was also free in a promotion and fully anonymous. I connect to the network via free wifi from a donut shop next door. Of course the Android phone has never been connected to my home wifi nor been associated with my identity in any way.

Needless to say, I never connect to Google or Playstore. I installed Mycellium from an APK file downloaded on a Windows PC from the Mycellium website.

Buying coins is even easier. You simply tap "buy", scan the QR code for your paper wallet's public key, and start feeding in cash. No phones or devices required.

I'll never understand why people have a problem with paper wallets. They're easy to use and and offer the ultimate in security.

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December 20, 2017, 01:57:46 AM

I'll never understand why people have a problem with paper wallets. They're easy to use and and offer the ultimate in security.

Do you print them out on fireproof paper or something, lol?  Cheesy
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December 20, 2017, 01:59:03 AM

How do we get the word out there that Roger Ver is the most hated man in crypto?

Sites like this are sadly out of date:
https://themerkle.com/top-4-worst-people-in-cryptocurrency-history/

Maybe we need a voting site with cryptographic proof?

Off the top of my head the contenders would be:

1. Roger Ver
2. Mark Karpeles
3. Craig Wright

Add Jihan Wu.
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December 20, 2017, 02:01:25 AM

500 MBit and I can't synchronize my BCash wallet. Omgerd instant & no fees.
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December 20, 2017, 02:02:11 AM

I tell you what, if this latest BANKERCASH attack fails to fuck Bitcoin then I think thats it for BCASH. It will be fucked!!!!

Now I understand all the talk of Ripple (dentralized banker coin) a few days before this Coinbase/Ver/GoldmanSachs/Dimon attack on BTC. Get all the noobs away from BTC and into shit like Ripple

Just after all the Wall Street guys get into Futures as well/Is this the final battle?

If bitcoin survives this then fuck me I AM SAYING at least $100000 per BTC this time next year
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December 20, 2017, 02:02:21 AM

I'll never understand why people have a problem with paper wallets. They're easy to use and and offer the ultimate in security.

They are almost without exception generated using Javascript security libraries. Proven to be inadequate and with random number generators broken if source of entropy is insufficient. Even people who wrote this sites generating paper wallets got them off the internet and advise they should not to be used. Only worse wallets then paperwallets are brainwallets, but people keep using them both for mysterious reasons.
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December 20, 2017, 02:04:11 AM

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-12-19/bitcoin-crashing
Doesn't look to bad after all. We'll see...
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