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Question: Price Target for Nov. 30, 2024:
<$75K - 3 (3.8%)
$75K to $80K - 1 (1.3%)
$80K to $85K - 2 (2.5%)
$85K to $90K - 9 (11.3%)
$90K to $95K - 12 (15%)
$95K to $100K - 13 (16.3%)
>$100K - 40 (50%)
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December 20, 2017, 01:52:24 AM

How do we get the word out there that Roger Ver is the most hated man in crypto?

Does it need to be spelled out? Look at his tweets. One comment from him followed by 10-30 metres of abuse. He even gets the shit downvoted out of him on r/btc these days.
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December 20, 2017, 01:54:34 AM

Did your ATM let you withdraw 2 $2.5k transactions anonymously (without ID) a few weeks ago? I assumed you must have provided ID scans to get that kind of limit allowed.

No ID required. To maintain a daily limit for the purpose of AML laws, they require a cell phone on which you can receive text messages.

To sell coins, you enter your cell number and they immediately text you a code number to enter into the ATM. This unlocks the ATM and allows you to do the transaction. After you have specified the amount of the transaction, it displays a QR code to scan with your mobile hot wallet.

It then tells you to wait for the transaction to be confirmed by the network. I always include a priority fee and it has always been included in the next block. After it has been confirmed, it texts you and tells you to return to the ATM and tap "redeem".  They then text you another code number. When you enter that number it immediately starts spitting out $100 bills.

The time it takes for the whole process depends on the time it takes to confirm the TX. It has never taken me more than a half hour.

The cell phone I use is an anonymous pay-as-you-go Speakout flip-phone from a 711 store. I have several of them (all free from promotions) in case I ever need to exceed my daily limit. Because Speakout allows free texting even when the time has run out, they cost nothing and are always available.

The Android device I use for the Mycellium wallet to sweep a paper wallet and send the coins, is a cheapie Blu phone they were giving away for free for buying an air-time top-up in a holiday promotion a couple of years ago. To get Android to boot up I had to insert a SIM card but I found that a non-activated card worked just fine. The SIM card was also free in a promotion and fully anonymous. I connect to the network via free wifi from a donut shop next door. Of course the Android phone has never been connected to my home wifi nor been associated with my identity in any way.

Needless to say, I never connect to Google or Playstore. I installed Mycellium from an APK file downloaded on a Windows PC from the Mycellium website.

Buying coins is even easier. You simply tap "buy", scan the QR code for your paper wallet's public key, and start feeding in cash. No phones or devices required.

I'll never understand why people have a problem with paper wallets. They're easy to use and and offer the ultimate in security.

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December 20, 2017, 01:57:46 AM

I'll never understand why people have a problem with paper wallets. They're easy to use and and offer the ultimate in security.

Do you print them out on fireproof paper or something, lol?  Cheesy
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December 20, 2017, 01:59:03 AM

How do we get the word out there that Roger Ver is the most hated man in crypto?

Sites like this are sadly out of date:
https://themerkle.com/top-4-worst-people-in-cryptocurrency-history/

Maybe we need a voting site with cryptographic proof?

Off the top of my head the contenders would be:

1. Roger Ver
2. Mark Karpeles
3. Craig Wright

Add Jihan Wu.
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December 20, 2017, 02:01:25 AM

500 MBit and I can't synchronize my BCash wallet. Omgerd instant & no fees.
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December 20, 2017, 02:02:11 AM

I tell you what, if this latest BANKERCASH attack fails to fuck Bitcoin then I think thats it for BCASH. It will be fucked!!!!

Now I understand all the talk of Ripple (dentralized banker coin) a few days before this Coinbase/Ver/GoldmanSachs/Dimon attack on BTC. Get all the noobs away from BTC and into shit like Ripple

Just after all the Wall Street guys get into Futures as well/Is this the final battle?

If bitcoin survives this then fuck me I AM SAYING at least $100000 per BTC this time next year
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December 20, 2017, 02:02:21 AM

I'll never understand why people have a problem with paper wallets. They're easy to use and and offer the ultimate in security.

They are almost without exception generated using Javascript security libraries. Proven to be inadequate and with random number generators broken if source of entropy is insufficient. Even people who wrote this sites generating paper wallets got them off the internet and advise they should not to be used. Only worse wallets then paperwallets are brainwallets, but people keep using them both for mysterious reasons.
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December 20, 2017, 02:04:11 AM

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-12-19/bitcoin-crashing
Doesn't look to bad after all. We'll see...
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December 20, 2017, 02:04:38 AM

I'll never understand why people have a problem with paper wallets. They're easy to use and and offer the ultimate in security.

They are almost without exception generated using Javascript security libraries. Proven to be inadequate and with random number generators broken if source of entropy is insufficient. Even people who wrote this sites generating paper wallets got them off the internet and advise they should not to be used. Only worse wallets then paperwallets are brainwallets, but people keep using them both for mysterious reasons.
Because $100 is very expensive. Especially when hundreds of thousands or more are at stake. Cheesy
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December 20, 2017, 02:04:49 AM

Now I understand all the talk of Ripple (dentralized banker coin) a few days before this Coinbase/Ver/GoldmanSachs/Dimon attack on BTC. Get all the noobs away from BTC and into shit like Ripple

Don't be shocked if Coinbase adds Ripple next. If that doesn't show their true colors, I don't know what will.
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December 20, 2017, 02:05:30 AM

How do we get the word out there that Roger Ver is the most hated man in crypto?

Sites like this are sadly out of date:
https://themerkle.com/top-4-worst-people-in-cryptocurrency-history/

Maybe we need a voting site with cryptographic proof?

Off the top of my head the contenders would be:

1. Roger Ver
2. Mark Karpeles
3. Craig Wright

Add Jihan Wu.

Mark Karpeles doesn't belong in this gruop, he is just an idiot. These three are evil.
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December 20, 2017, 02:07:47 AM

Someone tell Mark Karples to sell my Beecash. Buy more bitcoin.
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December 20, 2017, 02:09:07 AM

Don't be shocked if Coinbase adds Ripple next. If that doesn't show their true colors, I don't know what will.

I presume Coinbase's ultimate aim is to be bought out by Goldman Sachs et al. They are not anyone's friend and don't have anything's best interest at heart other than their own value.

No one should be shocked by this, but I am slightly surprised at the blatantness of this particular move taking place during blockchain spamming, difficulty readjustment, all time high in attention and super high fees.
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December 20, 2017, 02:12:06 AM

Don't be shocked if Coinbase adds Ripple next. If that doesn't show their true colors, I don't know what will.

I presume Coinbase's ultimate aim is to be bought out by Goldman Sachs et al. They are not anyone's friend and don't have anything's best interest at heart other than their own value.

No one should be shocked by this, but I am slightly surprised at the blatantness of this particular move taking place during blockchain spamming, difficulty readjustment, all time high in attention and super high fees.

Coinbase merely added Bitcoin Cash as fast as they could...stop acting like there's a conspiracy behind the time of the release.

Originally they said Jan 1st, 2018 so I'm glad they are ahead of schedule.
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December 20, 2017, 02:12:35 AM

I'll never understand why people have a problem with paper wallets. They're easy to use and and offer the ultimate in security.

Do you print them out on fireproof paper or something, lol?  Cheesy

"Paper" is just an expression. I prefer to keep mine in the form of encrypted JPG files, but some people have been known to engrave the 26-character alphanumeric keys into metal.

Do you use asbestos paper to store the seed words for your Trezor or Ledger?
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December 20, 2017, 02:14:42 AM

Do you use asbestos paper to store the seed words for your Trezor or Ledger?

No but I keep it in a fireproof safe wrapped in a fireproof doc bag.  Grin
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December 20, 2017, 02:16:37 AM

Coinbase merely added Bitcoin Cash as fast as they could...stop acting like there's a conspiracy behind the time of the release.

Originally they said Jan 1st, 2018 so I'm glad they are ahead of schedule.

You don't think it's a teensy weensy bit timed? And the only thing they confirmed was the distribution of BCH which as far as I know still hasn't happened so may well still be that date. They said precisely nothing about adding to GDAX or Coinbase retail until it came out of nowhere a few hours ago and was instantly ready, though it' was obviously a possibility.

That is not a conventional way to launch any type of trading.
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December 20, 2017, 02:16:52 AM

JayJuanGee to the rescue!




I resemble that statement!!!!!!!!!!!     Angry Angry Angry
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December 20, 2017, 02:17:42 AM

Coinbase merely added Bitcoin Cash as fast as they could...stop acting like there's a conspiracy behind the time of the release.

Originally they said Jan 1st, 2018 so I'm glad they are ahead of schedule.

You don't think it's a teensy weensy bit timed? And the only thing they confirmed was the distribution of BCH which as far as I know still hasn't happened so may well still be that date. They said precisely nothing about adding to GDAX or Coinbase retail until it came out of nowhere a few hours ago and was instantly ready, though it' was obviously a possibility.

Coinbase originally said they were only going to allow the withdrawal of BCash on Jan 1st. Nothing more.
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December 20, 2017, 02:17:55 AM

Don't be shocked if Coinbase adds Ripple next. If that doesn't show their true colors, I don't know what will.

I presume Coinbase's ultimate aim is to be bought out by Goldman Sachs et al. They are not anyone's friend and don't have anything's best interest at heart other than their own value.

No one should be shocked by this, but I am slightly surprised at the blatantness of this particular move taking place during blockchain spamming, difficulty readjustment, all time high in attention and super high fees.

Coinbase merely added Bitcoin Cash as fast as they could...stop acting like there's a conspiracy behind the time of the release.

Originally they said Jan 1st, 2018 so I'm glad they are ahead of schedule.
It appears the BCH markets on GDAX are not functioning properly, anyway. Hope no one is dumb enough to think that a great arb opportunity cropped up.  Cool
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