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November 13, 2018, 07:47:43 PM

Nocoiners must also not be investors. Because under the mantra of "buy low, sell high", then every asset in life would be considered a ponzi by their definition.

Although personally, I abhor the idea of selling bitcoin back for fiat. Especially since I went through all the trouble of obtaining it in the first place. I'd rather be able to spend it for everything, including paying bills and taxes with it. The only reason I would ever sell bitcoin for fiat is if I couldn't purchase the good or service I needed with bitcoin directly.

Some of you hypocrites are talking out both sides of your ass though. You can't square spouting out "Bitcoin is money, and better than fiat! Fuck banks!" while also muttering "I can't wait for the next ATH so I can cash out [to fiat]!" Those two philosophies are diametrically opposed, in case you were wondering.  Roll Eyes
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November 13, 2018, 07:53:25 PM

...or...

CSW is about to employ mad ninja judo skillz, to redirect bitmain's hash power to stall the BTC chain. Perhaps. (?)

In terms of known hash power, Bitmain's dwarf's CSW's - at least when you include that currently devoted to BTC. However, CSW has always had enough hash power to achieve his objective.
At the 2017 Aug fork, he had enough to mine the first blocks ensuring the viability of the BCH chain.
In the last few days, his hash power has ballooned to large majority for SV on the BCH chain.
Does he hold more in reserve? How much?

We know Bitmain holds a lot of BCH. This would indicate a commitment to ensure the ongoing viability in BCH. They currently advocate ABC. If they retain that commitment, things could get interesting.

CSW has indicated his intent to bury the ABC fork under the SV fork. In the case that he controls previously-unimagined hash power, currently in stasis...

CSW could deploy just enough hash power to indeed 'bury' the ABC fork. If Bitmain stays committed to the ABC fork, they would need to redirect hash power from BTC to BCH/ABC. Assuming again that CSW has quasi-unlimited hash power in reserve, he can continue to deploy additional hash power to keep ABC buried. In order to ensure the continued viability of ABC, Bitmain would need to redirect yet additional hash power from BTC to BCH. Bitmain in this manner could possibly be drawn into redirecting most or all of its hash power from BTC to BCH.

If Bitmain's hash power is redirected from BTC to BCH, what happens to the BTC chain? Is this enough to stall the chain? When is the difficulty retargeting?

If enough hash power is pulled from the BTC chain, this will slow down tx processing appreciably. This could be accompanied by a large volume of small-value txs (sometimes referred to as 'spam txs'). The BCH community has already developed flooding tools used in the Gigablock Test Initiative. This combination could crowd other activity out of the chain, making it economically non-viable. The net result would be rendering the BTC chain useless for economic activity. If sustained, possibly followed by chain death.

I am not attaching any sort of probability to the above scenario. But it is an interesting thing to think through.
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November 13, 2018, 08:14:42 PM
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is crypto done ??  Huh



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November 13, 2018, 08:16:01 PM

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WTF?! Ethereum Classic is not a clone, it's the real Ethereum!
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November 13, 2018, 08:18:22 PM

is crypto done ??  Huh



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November 13, 2018, 08:18:41 PM

WTF?! Ethereum Classic is not a clone, it's the real Ethereum!

That’s just like, your opinion, man
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November 13, 2018, 08:24:18 PM

WTF?! Ethereum Classic is not a clone, it's the real Ethereum!

That’s just like, your opinion, man

Vitalik Vision bro!

(before he went nuts and decided it was ok to fork for reversing transactions... so much for immutability!)
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November 13, 2018, 08:34:55 PM

Even the most noble cause is going to attract degenerates. But with every crisis we grow stronger. Unpleasant as it is.
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Love that one  Grin Wink
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November 13, 2018, 08:41:18 PM

WTF?! Ethereum Classic is not a clone, it's the real Ethereum!

That’s just like, your opinion, man
Mmmm a dude-ish opinion, gonna take Some new beverages and get ready for the second movie.....
A lot happend i see
V8 already go decepticon already
A New hat created
Few hat-ish word games
BUT
BTC
Still boring as F***

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November 13, 2018, 08:46:15 PM

[...]
BUT
BTC
Still boring as F***

The calm before the storm  Grin

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November 13, 2018, 08:47:31 PM

Update on my bank situation. I can no longer deposit fiat. Like, at all. No idea how to even pay the fucking rent once the money in my account runs dry.

I can, however, sell coins on kraken and withdraw to my bank from there. No problem at all. It's almost like they want me to get rid of them.
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November 13, 2018, 08:56:28 PM

is crypto done ??  Huh



No i guess

But your avatar is “perhaps”

Just saw XhomerX Made Some cool shit with that avatar Grin
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Update on my bank situation. I can no longer deposit fiat. Like, at all. No idea how to even pay the fucking rent once the money in my account runs dry.

I can, however, sell coins on kraken and withdraw to my bank from there. No problem at all. It's almost like they want me to get rid of them.

IIRC, I tried to warn you your usage of the bank and localbitcoins activity could led to "problems".

You can not mix/convert "cash money" with/into "banking money" unless you have a very good cover (ie a real business account) and everything perfectly documented and justified. Banks do not like repeated unjustified cash deposits... Well, they do, but with current AML/KYC laws and regulations they know it could led them to problems and avoid it like shit.

Not that I agree with that shit, but that's how things are nowadays.

P.S.: As for paying the rent, just ask your landlord for his bank account and deposit the cash directly into one of his bank's branch offices. Which is something you should had been doing already to avoid having to deposit CASH into YOUR OWN (suspicious) bank account.
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November 13, 2018, 09:03:09 PM

At least volume seems to be picking up

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November 13, 2018, 09:07:38 PM

At least volume seems to be picking up

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November 13, 2018, 09:14:44 PM

At least volume seems to be picking up

(sorry for the offtopic)  Roll Eyes

Where is volume picking off? I checked and it's pretty much the same. We also rejected from 6479$ on Binance several times. Bitcoin still dead.
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November 13, 2018, 09:16:44 PM

Update on my bank situation. I can no longer deposit fiat. Like, at all. No idea how to even pay the fucking rent once the money in my account runs dry.

I can, however, sell coins on kraken and withdraw to my bank from there. No problem at all. It's almost like they want me to get rid of them.

IIRC, I tried to warn you your usage of the bank and localbitcoins activity could led to "problems".

You can not mix/convert "cash money" with/into "banking money" unless you have a very good cover (ie a real business account) and everything perfectly documented and justified. Banks do not like repeated unjustified cash deposits... Well, they do, but with current AML/KYC laws and regulations they know it could led them to problems and avoid it like shit.

Not that I agree with that shit, but that's how things are nowadays.

P.S.: As for paying the rent, just ask your landlord for his bank account and deposit the cash directly into one of his bank's branch offices. Which is something you should had been doing already to avoid having to deposit CASH into YOUR OWN (suspicious) bank account.
I had to know just how close we are to soviet conditions. Which turns out to be really fucking close. And my country is one of the least shit on the planet, in england comedians are being arrested over jokes.

We are running out of time.
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