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Question: 9/19 Closing Price:
0 - 1 (1.6%)
<$10,000 - 3 (4.8%)
$10,000-$10,500 - 2 (3.2%)
$10,501-$11,000 - 13 (20.6%)
$11,001-$11,500 - 19 (30.2%)
$11,501-$12,000 - 8 (12.7%)
$12,001-$12,500 - 7 (11.1%)
$12,501-$13,000 - 2 (3.2%)
>$13,000 - 3 (4.8%)
>$20,000 - 5 (7.9%)
Total Voters: 63

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November 02, 2018, 07:44:37 PM
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Paying your taxes is not socialism, it's patriotism.

Submitting to organized armed thugs is patriotism... got it.

Waitaminute... that ain't patriotism, it's subservience.

You wanna be a patriot, how 'bout you send in a check for ten times what 'the law' says you owe. Actually, that ain't patriotism either. For it will not be going to your nation, but rather to your government. Which is not the same thing.

It is the government that builds and maintains the stuff your nation needs to function. if they fail, select someone else.

Don't get me wrong, I'm absolutely fine with people not wanting to 'subserve' to anything, I just don't like it when people do want to use hospitals, roads, the fire department etc etc and still don't want to pay taxes.

Your tax form is not a voting ballot. Those are two very different things.


You're correct that you get taxed every year, as is customary in most of the world.

You get taxed 1.2% not 1.5% over anything over 25k not 2.5k, minus debts.

Our economic system is not backwards, look up the numbers. Taxing stale money does not inhibit succes. Seems like taxing actual succes (profit in trading) is more akin to taxing succes.

I'd gladly give you a percentage of my wealth if you build the roads I drive my motorcycle on, build the school that my daughter goes to, and there is a system in place whereby I can check and judge your performance, together with my compatriates.


Isn't that already paid for from the Netherlands 51.95% tax rate on anything over 65,000 that's fucking wild right there with that tax rate. On top of that they take 1.2% of your money over $25k and assets(?) What if your savings for a house, retirement or who knows, you just have to fight an uphill battle. I think thise tax rates pay plenty for your roads and schools I know my tax rate of 22% I pay on the same income amount pays for ours.

The tax rate on the top bracket used to be much higher, as in 85%. 'Wild' depends on your frame of reference. I think owning 10 houses and 20 cars is wild. 8 houses and 15 cars should be enough for any one person. Tax everything above that 100% I say.

In general the rate of taxation is kinda high on the income part here, kinda low on what most people here enjoy doing, trading (0%). Other countries just chose to tax trading to pay the schools and roads. You decide what's better.
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November 02, 2018, 07:59:47 PM

Paying your taxes is not socialism, it's patriotism.

Submitting to organized armed thugs is patriotism... got it.

Waitaminute... that ain't patriotism, it's subservience.

You wanna be a patriot, how 'bout you send in a check for ten times what 'the law' says you owe. Actually, that ain't patriotism either. For it will not be going to your nation, but rather to your government. Which is not the same thing.

To be fair, he is living under a much more benign government than us.

It pains me to admit it, as I am fully aware that it runs against my core anarchist beliefs, but if I am really honest with myself much of my life is defined by the yearning for a jurisdiction to which I can peaceably submit.

I do not think such a jurisdiction currently exists.  I am by temperament a mechanic and farmer, not an insurgent.  I do feel that much of my life potential has been stolen from me by the political matrix into which I was born.
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November 02, 2018, 08:00:57 PM
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I’m firmly in the ‘get away with paying as little tax as possible’ camp.

I have a really good accoutant who does my companies books (he is not aware I’m invested in bitcoin)
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November 02, 2018, 08:08:45 PM

Paying your taxes is not socialism, it's patriotism.

Submitting to organized armed thugs is patriotism... got it.

Waitaminute... that ain't patriotism, it's subservience.

You wanna be a patriot, how 'bout you send in a check for ten times what 'the law' says you owe. Actually, that ain't patriotism either. For it will not be going to your nation, but rather to your government. Which is not the same thing.

To be fair, he is living under a much more benign government than us.

It pains me to admit it, as I am fully aware that it runs against my core anarchist beliefs, but if I am really honest with myself much of my life is defined by the yearning for a jurisdiction to which I can peaceably submit.

I do not think such a jurisdiction currently exists.  I am by temperament a mechanic and farmer, not an insurgent.  I do feel that much of my life potential has been stolen from me by the political matrix into which I was born.

Good point. scale might play an impprtant role. My country is much smaller. I actually said hi to our prime minister when bumping into him when hiking. The smaller scale makes everything much more personal, and more easily manageable with less bureaucracy.

All greys though, still to much bureaucracy....
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November 02, 2018, 08:12:07 PM
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friday evening NO DINNER stuff going on this evening BUT,



only (maybe its just me)



why so f***ing many screens and shit Roll Eyes    this place always feed me my portion of HOPIUM Grin

for the alcoholic ones this evening cheers!!!
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I’m firmly in the ‘get away with paying as little tax as possible’ camp.

I have a really good accoutant who does my companies books (he is not aware I’m invested in bitcoin)

same camp,same team,same SHIT going on .......
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I actually said hi to our prime minister when bumping into him when hiking.

I was in the same city as president Clinton one time.  There was tear gas and he was evacuated.
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I actually said hi to our prime minister when bumping into him when hiking.

I was in the same city as president Clinton one time.  There was tear gas and he was evacuated.

lol

Cheers micgoossens and everyone else.

I'm enjoying a localbrew, Heineken is brewed 10km from where I live =D
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I'm enjoying a localbrew, Heineken is brewed 10km from where I live =D

That's the final straw.
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I actually said hi to our prime minister when bumping into him when hiking.

I was in the same city as president Clinton one time.  There was tear gas and he was evacuated.

lol

Cheers micgoossens and everyone else.

I'm enjoying a localbrew, Heineken is brewed 10km from where I live =D

Currently smoking God’s green whilst watching some shit stand up comedian on TV!
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remind me of all things.....except that one  Roll Eyes

i did love the daily-weekly NEW ATH's all the time Grin

bring it back, same time honey(MIC)badger don't give a fuck
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remind me of all things.....except that one  Roll Eyes

i did love the daily-weekly NEW ATH's all the time Grin

bring it back, same time honey(MIC)badger don't give a fuck

Epic bull run around 6 months after this

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PLeaseeeee no BULLRUN after a stationary "countdown clock"  Tongue

NO, the BIG GREEN DILDO after that event could be HUGE
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PLeaseeeee no BULLRUN after a stationary "countdown clock"  Tongue

NO, the BIG GREEN DILDO after that event could be HUGE

$50,000 per coin a short time after the next halving.
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Don’t have my PC here
Otherwise we could have a Loooooooooooooong GIF situation right here
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DO KNOW A NEW MOVIE OF THIS 2 F***S IS COMING

as holmes and watson Grin

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It should better start rising up soon, or I'll miss my "Breaking 24777$ prediction" tip  Grin according to my prediction its supposed to get there by feb12th2019..
but im afraid the market volatility is too dead for it to move up even $500+ before year's end :/
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