Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion

[JayJuanGee]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YmnjWpSrzzE

meh this holland guy also suggest 4.8-4.9K  "podyx thought about 30-ish pages back"   didn't remember jjg reaction on 4.8 ( already been damn close to there"

if its been asked to me.... i would say this is a nice bottom we have right here BUT F*** i don't count for that so just keep cruising on the waves and following the narratives of my little friend BTC, just time to grow again

let me enter my HODLcave in piece its not that long anymore before i go there

I find it hard to keep track too, and certain BTC price moves (such as breaking our previous $5,774 support), definitely clear the way for the challenging of lower areas of support.

I think, like a lot of others, I was hinging a lot of my thinking about the lower possibilities of how far the BTC price will go or is expected to go based on the extent of the bluffing in the Bcash hardfork, including whether there was some BIG ASS bluff about even carrying out the hardfork, at all.  Surely, I am glad the hardfork actually went through because postponing or not following through with the bcash hardfork would have just drug out the uncertainty for a much longer period and likely would have been even more negative for BTC and increasing the likelihood of breaking additional areas of support in the $5k arena and lower.

Currently, with the actual deployment of the bcash "upgrade" and the fork, there is likely to be a considerable amount of relief that allows BTC prices to return to UPwards - but surely we can never really downplay any manipulators desires to continue to attempt to push BTC prices down as much as possible and for them to attempt to take advantage of the support break that has already occurred at $5774.

Anyhow, I may as well repeat here that I tend to suck when it comes to predicting anything beyond perhaps making an attempt at one leg, but even then if you can get me much off of a 50/50 prediction, then I am feeling confident.. so I am a bit more inclined towards BTC UP, now... at least getting us back to the $6,500 territory in the coming week or so...

There still could be some uncertainties regarding whether any of the bcash scumballs have any more surprises to throw into the loop or perhaps if there could be some other FUD that could come out soon in order to attempt to take advantage of our current sub $5,774 price territory... that could also decently go away in the coming hours, perhaps?

[JayJuanGee]

It is interesting how close to a BTC difficulty change the BCH fork and hash battle is occurring however. Provocative.

Yes.  What a coincidence.  Go figure.

Even more provocative - ABC seems to be kept alive due to a black_hat/white_knight act of Roger. He has redirected 4 EHash of power on the Bitcoin.com pool from BTC to BCH.

Spicy!

Who would not have expected various kinds of movement like this of the hashing power? 

Doesn't really seem too interesting to me, and surely Roger is missing out on some actual BTC (I mean something that is worth something) that he could be earning.  Poor lily thingilie!!

[El duderino_]

^^^
So short for 6500 next week in your opinion do remember it was thursday
Everybody was gentle to you





i do remember stfu jjg’s on thursday ..... just a Joke e ..... i hope as well to see us going UP and i do share your thought on predicting is the most difficult of all in BTC

[JayJuanGee]

^^^
So short for 6500 next week in your opinion

I don't short, but I am not afraid to sell on the way up.

At this point, I had some buy orders fill down to about $5,200, so I have to play around a bit and perform a bit of math in my head in order to figure out how I want to structure the incremental sells.. how much and how frequently.  Currently, I have sell orders starting in the $5,700s. 

Surely, the system works, even though many of us who are largely HODLing recognize that variations of whatever formula that we attempt to play does contain a built in preference for UP.. and surely, my own variation tends to buy more BTC than I sell, and therefore my amount of BTC should be higher than it was on the fourth or fifth time that we pass through $10k as compared with the first time that we passed through $10k (which is hopefully coming, but even having to wait a couple more years to pass thorugh $10k is acceptable, even if it is not the preferred outcome).

do remember it was thursday
Everybody was gentle to you

i do remember stfu jjg’s on thursday ..... just a Joke e .....

Surely, tards are going to tard, so just have to cross one bridge at a time, if peeps believe it is helpful to them or our thread conversation to focus themselves or the thread in that direction.  My response, if any, will depend on context.

i hope as well to see us going UP and i do share your thought on predicting is the most difficult of all in BTC

I don't know if predicting the future about BTC is more difficult than predicting the future about other things, but of course, the more that any of us knows about a topic, and about how to filter relevant and material from nonrelevant and nonmaterial, then of course, our ideas about the future of the topic (such as bitcoin prices) will likely become more solid.

[El duderino_]

I mean’t all the text was short for .... back to 6500-ish next week i your opinion

[Last of the V8s]

https://youtu.be/7AxUEddRS1E bcash memes
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7cvzMjAWjs btc memes

[RoomBot]

So happy I got paid today to buy more DIP!

[HairyMaclairy]

[JayJuanGee]

I mean’t all the text was short for .... back to 6500-ish next week i your opinion

Oh?  I misread what you said.  

I think that it is difficult to summarize something like a prediction from me, in the context that I am putting the prediction down to a sentence or two, because I don't tend to frame predictions like that.  

In essence, I am currently asserting that we seem to have greater than 50% odds of going up from here - perhaps that could take us all the way to $6,500 which seems a decent resistance point, but I have no idea about whether momentum will take us all the way up to that $6,500 point, because we could go down first.  

Anyhow, one of the reasons why $6,500 seems so reasonable, in terms of a possible resistance point is because we were recently knocking at its door about a week ago, and just before a lot of the recent bcash uncertainties.   Furthermore, there has not really been any negative BTC specific news recently, while we have the likely going live of the BAKKT on 12/12.... which ultimately should be causing upwards BTC price pressures.

Even saying all that, a turd in the direction, and significant movement in the downward direction could throw things, and none of us knows if there is some BIG banker or someone else who wants to throw a few thousand BTC in the down direction to see whether BTC can absorb it.  So, I doubt that I am even saying that odds are greater than 50% that BTC prices are going to $6,500 within a week, even if I am saying that going to $6,500 within a week seems amongst the best of the scenarios based on current information... but maybe by the time we add them all up, that particular scenario might only amount to 35% (even though it is still the best one).  

Edit:    I forgot to mention this lingering USD tether difference that Hairy refers to from time to time and even pointed out it to be increasing.. so yeah, it has bounced between about $50 and $250, and currently such difference is floating around $150.  I would feel a bit more comfortable if the difference was on the lower end, because having such a considerable difference does seem to add to uncertainty regarding how various exchanges are performing and factors that can spark off pumps or dumps that are sometimes basd on phoney factors rather than more organic price movement, which would be more bullish, overall.

[QuestionAuthority]

The moon is so close I can touch it.

[Icygreen]

As I was expecting, anyone who bought BCH for the fork is getting dumped on. $384 and likely to make an ATL soon.
Guess someone's gotta hold the bags, smh

[DaRude]

It is interesting how close to a BTC difficulty change the BCH fork and hash battle is occurring however. Provocative.

Yes.  What a coincidence.  Go figure.

Even more provocative - ABC seems to be kept alive due to a black_hat/white_knight act of Roger. He has redirected 4 EHash of power on the Bitcoin.com pool from BTC to BCH.

Spicy!

Wait, are you trying to tell me that CSW's whole plan relied on Roger sitting by idly looking at his pool mining BTC while all of his work and savings in Bcash are destroyed because there wasn't enough hash to support Bcash? Seriously? Plz tell me you can come up with something better, i'll even take "This was his plan all along and he's just trying to outspend ABC long term" at least that'd be something, but don't try to feed me this BS! You're gonna get fired if you don't pick up your game 

[jbreher]

It is interesting how close to a BTC difficulty change the BCH fork and hash battle is occurring however. Provocative.

Yes.  What a coincidence.  Go figure.

Even more provocative - ABC seems to be kept alive due to a black_hat/white_knight act of Roger. He has redirected 4 EHash of power on the Bitcoin.com pool from BTC to BCH.

Spicy!

Wait, are you trying to tell me that CSW's whole plan relied on Roger sitting by idly looking at his pool mining BTC while all of his work and savings in Bcash are destroyed because there wasn't enough hash to support Bcash?

Of course not, silly. I'm merely forwarding actual information not yet entered into discourse here. What is _your_ contribution?

Though an autocratic redirection of BTC pool power without assent of all participants is kind of interesting in its own right.

More info in the Bitcoin Cash thread.

[xhomerx10]

It is interesting how close to a BTC difficulty change the BCH fork and hash battle is occurring however. Provocative.

Yes.  What a coincidence.  Go figure.

Even more provocative - ABC seems to be kept alive due to a black_hat/white_knight act of Roger. He has redirected 4 EHash of power on the Bitcoin.com pool from BTC to BCH.

Spicy!

Wait, are you trying to tell me that CSW's whole plan relied on Roger sitting by idly looking at his pool mining BTC while all of his work and savings in Bcash are destroyed because there wasn't enough hash to support Bcash?

Of course not, silly. I'm merely forwarding actual information not yet entered into discourse here. What is _your_ contribution?

Though an autocratic redirection of BTC pool power without assent of all participants is kind of interesting in its own right.

More info in the Bitcoin Cash thread.

 Easily justifiable if babies are dying.

[jojo69]

Jesus Christ Jay

shut    the    fuck     up

[d_eddie]

I closed my final bch short and I'm done playing with bch. Got a slight loss just at the end, but an overall 50% profit on my play money. Thank you, forkers. Do it again next Xmas, will you?

I also closed the short position on btc. Not even my standing historical long, redder than ever before, can take my gains away now: it's already accounted for. I'm considering defending this result with one more short, tight stop. Should 4000 show its ugly face, I'll collect enough on the way down to make up for extra losses on the long. Otherwise I'll gladly pay the stop loss tax on the short.

EDIT Found a pretty Easter egg: the number 1337 shows up as "leet" in the post count.  :-)

[JayJuanGee]

Jesus Christ Jay

shut    the    fuck     up

That reminds me of a story.



That reminds me of another story.  




hahahahahahah   

[JayJuanGee]

I closed my final bch short and I'm done playing with bch. Got a slight loss just at the end, but an overall 50% profit on my play money. Thank you, forkers. Do it again next Xmas, will you?

I also closed the short position on btc. Not even my standing historical long, redder than ever before, can take my gains away now: it's already accounted for. I'm considering defending this result with one more short, tight stop. Should 4000 show its ugly face, I'll collect enough on the way down to make up for extra losses on the long. Otherwise I'll gladly pay the stop loss tax on the short.

EDIT Found a pretty Easter egg: the number 1337 shows up as "leet" in the post count.  :-)

Seems that you are getting pretty good at both hedging, but also not getting to greedy with your bets in order to stuff away funds and to also increase the size of your "playing" funds.

Regarding the leet, if you want to maintain your status, you cannot post anymore... You just have to keep editing old posts...

Otherwise, if you do post, you have to delete one post for every new post.

[cAPSLOCK]

As I was expecting, anyone who bought BCH for the fork is getting dumped on. $384 and likely to make an ATL soon.
Guess someone's gotta hold the bags, smh

the more I think about it, the more I wonder if this might not all have been theater and a way to extract the most possible money back out of a failed system that two or three billionaires accidentally sank way more than they should have in to.

[xhomerx10]

The moon is so close I can touch it.

 I know.  It's almost as if you're there.