Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion

[Saint-loup]

Forget private keys, if Craig Wright was Satoshi he could post his now defunct bitcointalk password on Twitter...but he can't even do that.  Also, since everyone in the thread is retarded, my bottom call around 10 months ago was "probably stabilize around $4200-4400 with flash crashes to $3000", while Tera's was "might drop as low as $1000".  You can build a statue in the town square of whoever the winner is.

We are far from $4000. Bakkt will open in less than one month now...

[Elwar]

Well, looks like Poloniex has 3 BCH coins that add up to about .15 BTC. Best I've seen in a while. Time to start selling.

Edit: Oh shit BCH SV wallet is linux only at this point and it looks like maybe I have to compile it.

I usually have a shit time getting wallets to run on my linux setup because I don't have a desktop, only ssh.

[rafanadal]

Forget private keys, if Craig Wright was Satoshi he could post his now defunct bitcointalk password on Twitter...but he can't even do that.  Also, since everyone in the thread is retarded, my bottom call around 10 months ago was "probably stabilize around $4200-4400 with flash crashes to $3000", while Tera's was "might drop as low as $1000".  You can build a statue in the town square of whoever the winner is.

Are we gonna have another bull run or this is it ?

[realr0ach]

Forget private keys, if Craig Wright was Satoshi he could post his now defunct bitcointalk password on Twitter...but he can't even do that.  Also, since everyone in the thread is retarded, my bottom call around 10 months ago was "probably stabilize around $4200-4400 with flash crashes to $3000", while Tera's was "might drop as low as $1000".  You can build a statue in the town square of whoever the winner is.

Are we gonna have another bull run or this is it ?

One of the biggest issues I see is that when the price of bitcoin was $200 or less, it had viable attraction to low, medium and high income punters and speculators even if they knew nothing about it.  Random middle class people would take a risk for a few hundred bucks.  When someone says, "$6000, cheap coins!", who the fuck believes that?  Nobody.  That's like half a car to a random middle class salary man.  

The general public is probably outta here for good now.  If you were depending on the general public to be your greater fools, it probably ain't happening.  That's why I said numerous times before, all this market is now is whales like Bitmain, Winklevoss, Roger Ver, and Tim Draper all trying to scam each other in a zero sum game.  If something manages to make the price go parabolic again, I highly doubt it's going to the aggregate of the general public, it will be something like more Tether Fraud, a huge implosion from no greater fools to buy the Tether fraud, and then BitFinex disappearing permanently with international manhunts.

But there's also another thing I have to mention.  In the old days of bitcoin when it was trading from $200-$800, the price was CLEARLY moved in a manner where the only thing cared about was what type of percentage gain can someone get by moving it from point A to B.  They didn't care about if the price went up or down in other words, only what type of profit could be extracted from the move.  After the price went higher than that, the market changed entirely and became much more artificial where you could tell people were bending over backwards attempting to artificially prop up the price instead.  Almost as obvious as the amount of effort that goes into trying to suppress metals, except the inverse for bitcoin.

[_javier_]

From nov. 10th 2017 to nov. 12th, BTC went from about $7500 to $5500 (didn't stay long at this price) and then boom... so who knows ?

I wish that happens again.
We rebounded in 2017 and i dont see it happening now.

All this bcash drama is giving crypto a bad name.
Faketoshi is on fire, but Roger and Jihan are quite silent.. plz do something to entertain us!

[HairyMaclairy]

Are we gonna have another bull run or this is it ?

Yes 2020. 

[rafanadal]

One of the biggest issues I see is that when the price of bitcoin was $200 or less, it had viable attraction to low, medium and high income punters and speculators even if they knew nothing about it.  Random middle class people would take a risk for a few hundred bucks.  When someone says, "$6000, cheap coins!", who the fuck believes that?  Nobody.  That's like half a car to a random middle class salary man.  

The general public is probably outta here for good now.  If you were depending on the general public to be your greater fools, it probably ain't happening.  That's why I said numerous times before, all this market is now is whales like Bitmain, Winklevoss, Roger Ver, and Tim Draper all trying to scam each other in a zero sum game.  If something manages to make the price go parabolic again, I highly doubt it's going to the aggregate of the general public, it will be something like more Tether Fraud, a huge implosion from no greater fools to buy the Tether fraud, and then BitFinex disappearing permanently with international manhunts.

But there's also another thing I have to mention.  In the old days of bitcoin when it was trading from $200-$800, the price was CLEARLY moved in a manner where the only thing cared about was what type of percentage gain can someone get by moving it from point A to B.  They didn't care about if the price went up or down in other words, only what type of profit could be extracted from the move.  After the price went higher than that, you could tell people were bending over backwards attempting to artificially prop up the price instead.  Almost as obvious as the amount of effort that goes into trying to suppress metals, except the opposite for bitcoin.

Makes sense.

[rafanadal]

Are we gonna have another bull run or this is it ?

Yes 2020. 

I hope, you're right

[BinaryReign]

Stop worrying about whether Craig might have access to Satoshi’s keys.  

He doesn’t.

This is all just a play act.  Stop buying into the ridiculous story time.  

If he had a single key from Satoshi's blocks he would sign "BCH SV FTW" message, and bury Jihan Wu.

Does anyone think he would not use such a weapon? The fact he did not do it is yet another proof he is 100% fake.

Exactly! I know if I was Satoshi and wanted to prove it, I would do it the simplest and most believable way.

Sign with Satoshi’s wallet, done.

See how fast and easy it would be?

[HairyMaclairy]

I am fairly confident Satoshi destroyed his own keys.  

He talks a lot about how lost keys are a donation to the community.

For Satoshi, the Bitcoin ideology was far more important than getting rich.

[bitserve]

As much as I read Wrights twitter I see a (egomaniacal) person that is constantly bluffing and trying very hard to look bigger than he really is.

[realr0ach]

One of the biggest issues I see is that when the price of bitcoin was $200 or less, it had viable attraction to low, medium and high income punters and speculators even if they knew nothing about it.  Random middle class people would take a risk for a few hundred bucks.  When someone says, "$6000, cheap coins!", who the fuck believes that?  Nobody.  That's like half a car to a random middle class salary man.  

The general public is probably outta here for good now.  If you were depending on the general public to be your greater fools, it probably ain't happening.  That's why I said numerous times before, all this market is now is whales like Bitmain, Winklevoss, Roger Ver, and Tim Draper all trying to scam each other in a zero sum game.  If something manages to make the price go parabolic again, I highly doubt it's going to the aggregate of the general public, it will be something like more Tether Fraud, a huge implosion from no greater fools to buy the Tether fraud, and then BitFinex disappearing permanently with international manhunts.

But there's also another thing I have to mention.  In the old days of bitcoin when it was trading from $200-$800, the price was CLEARLY moved in a manner where the only thing cared about was what type of percentage gain can someone get by moving it from point A to B.  They didn't care about if the price went up or down in other words, only what type of profit could be extracted from the move.  After the price went higher than that, the market changed entirely and became much more artificial where you could tell people were bending over backwards attempting to artificially prop up the price instead.  Almost as obvious as the amount of effort that goes into trying to suppress metals, except the inverse for bitcoin.

Makes sense.

Bitfinex is the main entity artificially trying to prop up the price via fraud, tethers, owners trading on their own exchange gox-style, and whatever under the table deals they have going on there.  Until that exchange is wiped from the pages of history, there will be absolutely no real price discovery of bitcoin.  Since all of their activity is price positive for bitcoin (just like MtGox was), I don't know how anyone could argue that bitcoin isn't in an artificial bubble as long as they exist and aren't in Karpeles' cell.  If bitcoin was not in an artificial bubble, the spread between the fake exchange Bitfinex and the real exchanges wouldn't have been $300 yesterday while there was zero spread between Gdax and Bitstamp.

[Torque]

only a 1 out of 20 2000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 chance IMHO

FTFY - think you missed a few zeroes there

Also clinical Narcissists don't care if people love them or hate them, only that they are being talked about. Feeds them more supply.

[LFC_Bitcoin]

$52xx

Fucking hell, how much lower?

[BinaryReign]

Wrong again pest. GDAX and Bitstamp was almost $200 difference in price at one point, I was watching it live..

[jojo69]

here we go

[rafanadal]

$52xx

Fucking hell, how much lower?

4000s for now

[Elwar]

Forget private keys, if Craig Wright was Satoshi he could post his now defunct bitcointalk password on Twitter...but he can't even do that.  Also, since everyone in the thread is retarded, my bottom call around 10 months ago was "probably stabilize around $4200-4400 with flash crashes to $3000", while Tera's was "might drop as low as $1000".  You can build a statue in the town square of whoever the winner is.

Are we gonna have another bull run or this is it ?

This is it. Instead of cashing out later you should cash out now.

You tried to get rich. It just didn't work out.

Time for you to look for something else.

[jojo69]

I said before, I am of the opinion that 4650 will hold.

[Torque]