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Question: When will we see a new ATH? (Credit to: Biodom)
2019 - 14 (8.9%)
Early 2020 - 35 (22.2%)
Late 2020 - 47 (29.7%)
Early 2021 - 14 (8.9%)
Late 2021 - 25 (15.8%)
2022 - 4 (2.5%)
2023 - 0 (0%)
2024 - 4 (2.5%)
After 2024 - 3 (1.9%)
Never - 12 (7.6%)
Total Voters: 158

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Cancelled dinner reservation tonight, to BTFD instead. Every little bit helps. Wife not impressed.
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November 14, 2018, 08:42:40 PM
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We're old school HODLers here.  These drops have no effect on us anymore.  We were here when one btc could be exchanged for <100 federally backed tokens.  We'll still be here when one btc  doesn't need to be exchanged for federally backed tokens at all.  We'll just use them to buy things when all other currencies are worthless.  And if we want to do so secretly we'll atomically swap them for Monero first. Nothing to see here.  Carry on.
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November 14, 2018, 08:45:59 PM

Cancelled dinner reservation tonight, to BTFD instead. Every little bit helps. Wife not impressed.



run for it ron burgundy style, and the wife will be impressed Grin
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November 14, 2018, 08:46:25 PM

We're old school HODLers here.  These drops have no effect on us anymore.  We were here when one btc could be exchanged for <100 federally backed tokens.  We'll still be here when one btc  doesn't need to be exchanged for federally backed tokens at all.  We'll just use them to buy things when all other currencies are worthless.  And if we want to do so secretly we'll atomically swap them for Monero first. Nothing to see here.  Carry on.


Agreed.

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November 14, 2018, 08:46:50 PM

We're old school HODLers here.  These drops have no effect on us anymore.  We were here when one btc could be exchanged for <100 federally backed tokens.  We'll still be here when one btc  doesn't need to be exchanged for federally backed tokens at all.  We'll just use them to buy things when all other currencies are worthless.  And if we want to do so secretly we'll atomically swap them for Monero first. Nothing to see here.  Carry on.

I wish I was as impervious as you seem to be.  Of course I'm new to crypto, and don't have the HODL stash that most of you have, and I didn't buy any of my stash below $6k.

However, the only regret I have today is that I blew my BTFD wad last week.   Roll Eyes
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November 14, 2018, 08:49:16 PM

What did I miss with all the hats here?
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November 14, 2018, 08:49:23 PM

this could get ugly


When’s the exact time of this shit fork?


a little less than 24 hours... as I type but of course, I am responding to a post from 3 hours ago...... so that substance might not be too timely.

https://cash.coin.dance/

Why do you guys care about some shitcoins and their shitforks? Those guys are enjoying too much attention! Just ignore them, their social media accounts and their shitwars!  Grin

The world does not work that way.

If you really want to attempt to figure out some short terms BTC price dynamics, then you have to take into account a variety of factors, even some factors that are less than pleasant to account.   

Of course, you don't necessarily need to follow every move, and of course, you could just ignore entirely if you are just buying and accumulating and you don't plan to make any shorter term plays and you might not even care about shorter term dynamics.... People participating in this thread are generally interested in both longer term and short term BTC dynamics, including factors that can affect short-term price including a variety of factors that you seem to want to presume are not relevant.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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November 14, 2018, 08:50:28 PM

Tomorrow we'll wake up in the 4000s aren't we ?

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November 14, 2018, 08:52:32 PM

This thread is so much fun when the shit hits the fan.
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November 14, 2018, 08:53:36 PM

Tomorrow we'll wake up in he 4000s aren't we ?

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Not selling anything OBVIOUSLY!

I have gone to bed early in a bad mood though. It’s 8:53pm here.

I’m scared what it’ll be when I wake up.
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November 14, 2018, 08:54:12 PM

Whatever they do the exchanges will still call it Bcash ABC or whatever. They might think they're ditching the bcash name, but they're stuck with it.

Haha. You funny guy.

None of the exchanges that matter call Bitcoin Cash 'BCash'. What makes you think they'll start now? Proof of Social Media?

I know yobit calls it Bitcoin Cash, but exchanges that matter like cryptopia call it BCash.

Anyone who is anyone calls it bcash...  Wink Cheesy
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November 14, 2018, 08:54:23 PM

Can't wait until BCash SV gets forked. Wonder what they'll name it?
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November 14, 2018, 08:54:36 PM

i just read nano saying his wife not impressed with BTFD........


WHAT IF



all wifes are making the man sell there coins for ^

?? ? ??

not under my roof but BUT Roll Eyes
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November 14, 2018, 08:57:44 PM

Tomorrow we'll wake up in he 4000s aren't we ?

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Not selling anything OBVIOUSLY!

I have gone to bed early in a bad mood though. It’s 8:53pm here.

I’m scared what it’ll be when I wake up.

Other way around for me, normally I sleep already this time (almost 11PM), but today's going to be a long evening, I rather see it crashing live than in the morning.
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November 14, 2018, 08:58:52 PM

Tomorrow we'll wake up in he 4000s aren't we ?

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Not selling anything OBVIOUSLY!

I have gone to bed early in a bad mood though. It’s 8:53pm here.

I’m scared what it’ll be when I wake up.

EASY just on its way to 5-DIG first destination

remember your gonna sleep as one of the TWO on the follow pic.  (as wake up as do anything)



BETTER ALWAYS BE THE LOWER obviously........ Roll Eyes

hey goodnight and good luck on STAYING @that bottom winning guess

me following Kylapoiss.... always stay up later and witness action Grin
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November 14, 2018, 09:00:23 PM
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I think you are way past cracked out. I like Monero as well. But I have no delusions of it being anything near closer to satoshi's vision. Make the case for me?

It's hard to have "digital cash" without fungibility.

So if I can read between the lines, you are claiming that the fact that bitcoin is merely pseudonymous makes it absolutely non-fungible, and thereby absolutely useless as digital cash?

Yes, mostly useless. What do you think?

I think bitcoin has already proven itself to be useful as cash.

Bitcoin has also already proven itself to be useful to the FBI and IRS in helping them track transactions.

I'll just say that if I wanted to hide money from the tax authorities, buy contraband without physical cash, or just keep my economic activity private, I'd be using Monero.

Agreed. So make the case that requirement is part of 'satoshi's vision'.

Fungibility is a fundamental and desirable property of cash - even electronic cash. If Satoshi's vision was "electronic cash", we cannot have that with a completely transparent, public blockchain and non-fungible units of currency.

Not bad. However...

Fungibility is not a binary property. It is a sliding scale. USD are not perfectly fungible. Is USD -- even in tangible form -- not cash?
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November 14, 2018, 09:00:25 PM

So I would not become too self-congratulatory and smug if I were you

Good advice. I will probably eat dirt on the next trade.

Surely, it feels good to have wonderful trading days, so congratulations on that, yet ultimately, I don't see any kind of fruitfulness in wanting to play a "told you so" game, unless we are dealing with trolls. 

There are a variety of guys and gal in this thread that employ various kinds of strategies, and are also trying to work out what is good for them.  Some of them are not able to employ either what I do or what you do, but surely it is likely helpful that you share a lot of your details on a relatively contemporary basis... Of course, you cannot share every little thing, but you do tend to share your overall view and sometimes some specifics of your strategy, which surely can be helpful in terms of consideration of possible approaches.... that hopefully, will also include guys and gal, personally customizing any actual employment of such.
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November 14, 2018, 09:01:08 PM

What did I miss with all the hats here?

It's because we found out the meaning of life is "People aren't wearing enough hats". This link explains the meaning of life.

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November 14, 2018, 09:02:18 PM
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So all of this crash was because 2 guys and some more are fighting on twitter over hash power? Ridiculous market.

This is crypto. Hash power is The Power.

"They vote with their CPU power, expressing their acceptance of valid blocks by working on extending them and rejecting invalid blocks by refusing to work on them. Any needed rules and incentives can be enforced with this consensus mechanism."

- SN, Bitcoin: A Peer-to-Peer Electronic Cash System

Another reason for my earlier claim (which I won't repeat out of respect for the thread).

The days of CPU power mattering in Bitcoin mining are long gone. I don't think Satoshi really included Asics and mining centralization in his vision. So a project that actually is CPU mineable may also conform more closely to his vision.

Bitcoin mining ASICs each consist of hundreds of very simple CPUs. MyHatIsTwoSharks.png

And yes, Satoshi explicitly said he expected as much.
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November 14, 2018, 09:02:43 PM

Craig Wright is tweeting literally every 10 minutes tonight


Dr Craig S Wright @ProfFaustus
Well. In 2017 I said there was a MAJOR issue with SegWit.

In mid to late 2019, I will explain it.

It cannot be removed. It cannot be fixed. It is not solvable and, you cannot work around it.

Sorry. You allowed Core to kill BTC.

I did try and stop you.
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