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[realr0ach]

Jbreher shilling for Craight Wright             - check
Luke Jr inventor of flat earth theory          - check
r0ach only sane person in bitcoin forum    - check

[HairyMaclairy]

[JayJuanGee]

Aren't patent trolls "losers," even if they make money? 

How so? There is a realistic debate to be had centering on the legitimacy of the concept of patents. But 'winners' and 'losers' are only identifiable as such within the context of the rules of the system. So, no: patent owners are by definition winners. At least to the extent to which others may want to employ the patented idea (i.e., even if they make money).

I think that I already explained my position. If you want to value winners based on their ability to get rich by any means, then you can do that.

It ain't _me_ doing the valuing. Getting rich is how society as a whole values the contribution made thereto. That's kind of the way market economies work.

You are the one bringing it up and arguing that if CSW is able to get rich, then he is a wonderful "winner"...

Really!? You are the one who inserted the winners/losers concept into the discourse (see quote above). All I'm saying is that your characterization of 'loser' is categorically and diametrically in-fucking-correct.

O.k.  Our opinions differ on this topic.  I consider one category of a loser to be someone like craigwright who is lacking in integrity and who is largely a scam artist who is hostile to bitcoin while fraudulently proclaiming himself to be satoshi, and you consider that same person to be a winner, so long as he is rich or able to become rich.  We differ.

[Hueristic]

1st one but he needs to have a gun!

What about this picture?

Now your talking, I'm outta sM+ myself so IOU 1.

[JimboToronto]

Are you back for those few days in mid-February because you need more cash? Is it safe to buy now? Will the price crash in a few days when you go back?

No. I'm still in the  jungle. Got someone who owed me money to put some on my credit card. Hopefully more will follow. Probably won't head back up until the end of March. I'm not in the mood for winter and I'm busy upgrading the infrastructure and security here.

As for buying, it's always a good time to buy as long as you don't sell.

I wish I could magically cause the price to go up and down by flying back and forth. If I could I'd be rich already instead of just comfortable. As it is, I'll have to wait a few years just like everybody else.

[realr0ach]

https://i.ibb.co/VtfqsHD/59-B5619-D-2272-47-BB-8-CFB-00-C468-FBFA55.jpg

Uh oh, your Jewish media, Jussie Smollet false flag that attempted to demonize white people has been exposed as a hoax:

http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=59820

[HairyMaclairy]

Right answer for all the wrong reasons

[Hueristic]

Would you be honest enough to criticize Craig, if you knew he was wrong?

Sure. He's already made a lot of bone headed statements already. No, I'm not going to enumerate them.

Let's do some of them anyway

https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Craig_Wright

    Wright's claimed PGP key was provably backdated. [1][2]
    He was paid millions of dollars by nTrust to 'reveal' himself as Satoshi (this is for those who think he lacked motive)[3]
    Signature claimed to prove him to be Satoshi was worthless. [4]
    Second claimed "signature" was also an obvious forgery. [5]
    N-th claimed "signature" was yet another obvious forgery. [6]
    Faked blog posts showing his early involvement in bitcoin. [7]
    Craig Wright is apparently using his fame to run an advance-fee scam.[8]
    Incorrectly calling it "Bit Coin" several times in 2011. [9]
    Gross technical incompetence. [10][11][12]
    No evidence of any C++ proficiency.
    Plagiarizism[13]
    If Craig Wright really was the creator of Bitcoin, the proof would be trivial. We see an example by Charlie Lee the creator of Litecoin[14]

And 2020 is right around the corner and he isn't gonna unlock shit.

[jojo69]

What central banks can't control is the whirlwind that will be the inevitable result from the stupid policies adopted back in the 1910-1913 timeframe. All they will be able to do is react to the debt-fueled collapse of the world economic system.

If you are waiting for the ‘inevitable’ result of something that happened over 100 years ago, you may be waiting a wee while longer.  Perhaps a few more hundred years. 

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg49697938#msg49697938

[Hueristic]

machine learning bot
all your friends buy xrp
would you FOMO in?

Bots gonna get better.  Or maybe worse?

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2019/feb/14/elon-musk-backed-ai-writes-convincing-news-fiction

JJG?

W00ps, not Thursday anymore

I was trying to figure out the substantive connection to me, and then I forgot that there were a few dumbasses, including yourself, that have been suggesting that I am AI.  That is one of the dumbest frameworks... but if being dumb floats your boat, then so be it...



Please lurn troll more better.   

When used to simply generate new text, GPT2 is capable of writing plausible passages that match what it is given in both style and subject. It rarely shows any of the quirks that mark out previous AI systems, such as forgetting what it is writing about midway through a paragraph, or mangling the syntax of long sentences.

[jojo69]

I dunno. I was agreeing that it could be best. How does one pick The Best?

pit pat piffy wing wang wong

[jojo69]

Awwwww guys!

I think to make friends again you should go docking

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=docking&utm_source=search-action

hey hey HEY!

you're working Gentlemand's schtick

[HairyMaclairy]

I dunno. I was agreeing that it could be best. How does one pick The Best?

pit pat piffy wing wang wong

Which Corvette is best Corvette?

https://youtu.be/GvkJzYHCdHI

[Biodom]

if nntaleb likes bitcoin, does it mean that Universa 'likes' it too?
murad is panicking.
lol

[Hueristic]

Globb0 I am very sorry.
the nocoiner slur was from where you recently said you were 100% XMR, which maybe i got wrong too
fwiw your quips are funny and your knowhow respected by me and others and you should behave as you choose
if you have that much in btc it is perfectly respectable
assure you i'm quite the nobody too
apologies again
V8s

Awwwww guys!

I think to make friends again you should go docking

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=docking&utm_source=search-action

Must not click.....FUK!

[Hueristic]

Just so people don’t think I am making things up with how weak the parent system is - Zond LLC was a patent troll with 371 patents.  After 10 years of litigation exactly zero of its patents survived.   Every single one of them was invalid.

But look at the same data from Zond’s perspective.  Before the AIA they owned 371 claims.  By the end of the 125 “gang tackling” IPRs filed against them, they owned 0.  0 claims.  0% survival.

Source:  http://www.ipwatchdog.com/2017/04/05/ipr-gang-tackling-distorts-ptab-statistics/id=81816/

I don’t doubt that after 10 years of litigation, Craig’s patents will be found invalid as well. 

But I think given your background, you already know how bad the parent system is and are just trolling us.

Apple patents the rectangle.

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/11/08/apple_rectangle_rounded_corners/

[realr0ach]

What central banks can't control is the whirlwind that will be the inevitable result from the stupid policies adopted back in the 1910-1913 timeframe. All they will be able to do is react to the debt-fueled collapse of the world economic system.

If you are waiting for the ‘inevitable’ result of something that happened over 100 years ago, you may be waiting a wee while longer.  Perhaps a few more hundred years.  

Technically you CAN kick the can down the road on the debt bubble infinitely by just debasing the debt/currency - hence Cheney saying things like "deficits don't matter" - but the newly printed money would actually have to reach the hands of the general public instead of just going to 0.01% of the population or it would do nothing.  

The general public mostly has no assets and only has debt nowadays, so even if you wanted to rig some type of asset they own upwards to create inflation, it's not even possible because they have no assets.  This leaves you only with options like canceling their debts and Ben Bernanke helicopter money.  This is what the Trump tax cuts were the start of that make zero economic sense from a budget perspective.

If the purpose of bitcoin is a govt scheme, bancor note to devalue the dollar against, it failed miserably because it centralized immediately after creation.  Barely anyone owns bitcoins due to it's mining centralization (ASICs that turned it into a pyramid scam), and then it's just whales like the Winklevozz and Pantera capital and such that own all those.  Anyway, once your economy is at the stage where the wealth is concentrated in so few hands, you're at peak debt saturation among the peasants with no way to service any of it,  and you're required to redistribute massive amounts of capital back to the hands of the general population for the system to continue at all, it's kind of the end.

If I was a Keynesian trying to fix it, there's really no need to do helicopter money right out in the open when you can do it in a backdoor manner.  I mean, they can lower taxes to zero if they want, raise social security benefits to the moon, cancel student debts, stop trying to rig metals downwards and let them explode 10x or more upwards, stop allowing in H1b's and Mexicans to depress wages, then you raise interest rates to the sky which corrects the price of the housing bubble downwards compared to wages and other assets, while simultaneously saving retirement funds.

[Hueristic]

xrp is one of the coins primed to do another 90% down?

Hah, a casino host told me he was all in on that shit when he heard me talking BTC and I told him dump that shit and he still thinks he's gonna moon. Lol

Met a guy on a plane.  He was so into XRP.  It’s the money of the future.  All the banks are using it.  I didn’t have the heart to tell him (and he probably wouldn’t have listened anyway).  

Those xrp zombies are complete gloss eyed fools, they really believe the koolaid they drank. It's shocking there can be such idiots in reasonable positions. I think they are just too lazy to do ANY research.

[Hueristic]

Good afternoon WO. I have missed a lot in the last few days however BTC price is unchanged.

sideways price and 10 WO pages, Ugg

Just you wait for the bull market in WO pages.

Yeah, I just added like a page of posts from the last 7 or 8 hours. Doh

[Hueristic]

Hmmm what you recommend I try to get my wife to watch?   Something like Game of Thrones would be good.

Jessica Jones.