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[El duderino_]

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For those with a possibility ....

Damn this Tuesday last session poker, then  2 of the group going to Vegas for four weeks of poker madness, damn I can't join cause of RL stuff....

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[lightfoot]

https://youtu.be/rBYlgiKGYQQ?t=23

I've seen every iteration/version of that vid like a million times and still to this day, I lmfao every time I click on it...thanx bro!

Funny bit is how dated it is: 5000btc for a "million dollar pizza"? Off by a factor of 40....

[El duderino_]

Damn don't go under 7.6K ....

Already made up my mind during this DIP, movie evening with fastfood under these circumstances.... eat away my DIP problem

[JayJuanGee]

We're gonna need a whole new internet if JJG and Shelby start discussing things.

I've already had some exchanges back and forth with that nutjob, and he is an expert at technical divergence, obscurity of points, irrelevance, appeals to status and other bullshit logical and misrepresentation fallacy presentations.

I believe that you would much rather go have a drink with me, rather than that pretentiously pompous ass, who has been banned from the forum several times due to [...].  

The only word I understood there was 'drink' and I believe you're right, we 3 should meet up while this whole thing blows over and put the world to rights.

O.k... theoretically, it seems like all fun and games, and I am pretty sure that I would not have any issues passing some shit (over drinks) with you, V8, but Jesus f-- c--  I am not confident in my own level of tolerance to put up with pretentious fuck anunymint.. ... it's like going to have a drink with Craig SW.... I feel a lack of sufficient patience to tolerate such a farcical attention-whore bullshitter.

hey id be down on being in on that conversation. although honestly my brain would hard lock within minutes in all likelihood. maybe i will need to bring an electroshock machine to restart my brain as needed.

his inability to make any genuine or meaningful points without exaggeration(s)

whos? yours or Shelbys? i can always have teams of scientists, physicists and game theory experts on call to help interpret Shelbys arguments. not sure what to have on call for your stuff

Hahahahahaha

Standing up for banned troll/shill Shelby, and suggesting that there might be some kind of semblance of equivalence with yours truly (by the way, believe it or  not, an "upstanding" forum member... hahahahahahaha    ).

OMG.  What a world, what a world.

[Biodom]

https://twitter.com/Dr_Yilmaz_PhD/status/1137457734138433536

Sweet sweet HOPIUM, always good on a small DIP

hey, I am getting different numbers  .
If lows were $180 and $3000, for argument's sake, then next projected (proportioned) low would be $50000.
If 50000 is a low after a 85% decline, then next peak is at $333333 instead of $175000.

[Last of the V8s]

... wasn't that great. .......................................... allowed porn to take off.

sir, your argumentation confuses me

[JayJuanGee]

looking at stamp volume, i always see big red candles.. as if someone wants to keep the price low constantly dumping. 

This is not a bear trend, its them... dumping.

What's unusual about that?

Bears will dump as much as they can and for however long they need to in order to inspire others to follow suit.  Once they get the down momentum, then they might be able to sit back and relax - as long as they are wearing away support and causing more selling than buying.

Even the whales are struggling with how much they are going to be able to get others to follow suit, and whether they (and other whales) have enough coins to accomplish their downward BTC price aspirations.

In other words, none of this activity is really unusual.  We had a decent amount of UP from April 1 to May 30, which was a more than doubling of the BTC price in about two months.  Should we expect the BTC price to go straight up, without at least meaningful attempts to test support levels?

Definitely, the fact that we had over two months of UP seems to have caused a decent amount of continued upwards confidence, and support to build up, but we also had a stupid-ass shitty project, aka Bcash SV, that might need a bit of purging, and maybe that seemingly necessary purging will drag on the price of BTC, perhaps?   Perhaps?

I am not arguing that I have any clue about how deep or long this correction will be or whether SV is going to suffer down rather than up at any time soon, even though it seems logical that such crap should suffer some decent downwards movement.. and even a downwards movement of SV should cause the opposite in BTC, but as many of us, likely realize, markets don't seem to act in rational ways and frequently the valuation of one (crypto) asset as compared to another plays out in quite convoluted and camouflaged ways, especially in the short term.

[nutildah]

Standing up for banned troll/shill Shelby, and suggesting that there might be some kind of semblance of equivalence with yours truly (by the way, believe it or  not, an "upstanding" forum member... hahahahahahaha    ).

JJG you're a million times better than him because you never continued to break forum rules due to the fact that your ego decided it was justifiable, because you thought that you were better than everyone else. Let's not forget his second-to-most recent reincarnation was banned for ban evasion, and not because he was "speaking the truth", or whatever Joan of Arc-like cause he or his proponents say it was.

In semi-drunken short, fuck that guy.

[El duderino_]

https://twitter.com/Dr_Yilmaz_PhD/status/1137457734138433536

Sweet sweet HOPIUM, always good on a small DIP

hey, I am getting different numbers  .
If lows were $180 and $3000, for argument's sake, then next projected (proportioned) low would be $50000.
If 50000 is a low after a 85% decline, then next peak is at $333333 instead of $175000.

Even better hopium

[JayJuanGee]

@Searing

Hey congrats on joining the Livecoin family my man! Looks like my little tip for you might have paid off, quite literally.

I'm trying to diversify my posting a bit and heading into less-traveled areas, but it's rough. There's a near infinite amount of shit to wade through out there, before finding something worth commenting on.

Edit: Had to hang up my WO Hat. That hurt.

Seems I can be 'bought'. A little dancing, some wine and flowers, romance and looks like I'm an easy lay.

Tell me about it. Going thru ASIC withdrawal...got a 'dubious' Bitmain S9i for home mining (with a funky jet engine looking silencer off eBay) and a guy sent me an Avalon 821 for $35

with a tip from Canada...for the heck of it. (I think I must have helped him sometime in the past) Sh*t to play within the basement for no particular reason or common sense.

Thus, was a lot more stuff to talk about when I had HARDWARE (ack! withdrawal) back in the day.

Then again, this sure beats the low of $3,200 BTC within the last year! (I was despondent)

Really seems that we have come through some difficult times.


Who knows if the difficult times are going to return any time soon?

I am quite happy with my updated plan that should allow me to begin to cash out 1% of my bitcoin per quarter, starting some time soon ^tm with the caveat that I am not cashing out shit if the BTC price is below $5k.... accordingly, with a bit of confidence, I have been speculating that my "pendingly" implemented BTC cashing out plan sits on quite solid grounds... and it is quite possible that my cashing out will be in the supra $20k territory with an additional possibility that I will never have to cash out any btc at any price below $20k.... conjecture, of course... conjecture.

[JayJuanGee]

You guys are wasting your time with that LeRoux crap

Yeah, but not as much time as scrolling past JJG's screeds.

 


hahahahahahahahaha


Whoa za!!!!!


Look at the haters.


Your lil scrolling finger must really be hurting.  pobrecito.   

[JayJuanGee]

Standing up for banned troll/shill Shelby, and suggesting that there might be some kind of semblance of equivalence with yours truly (by the way, believe it or  not, an "upstanding" forum member... hahahahahahaha    ).

JJG you're a million times better than him because you never continued to break forum rules due to the fact that your ego decided it was justifiable, because you thought that you were better than everyone else. Let's not forget his second-to-most recent reincarnation was banned for ban evasion, and not because he was "speaking the truth", or whatever Joan of Arc-like cause he or his proponents say it was.

In semi-drunken short, fuck that guy.

Yeah... fuck that guy.  That's what I had been trying to say, too.
 

[pereira4]

In relation to what was being discussed earlier: CSW has put a deadline of around 2020 to hack Paul Le Roux's coins and dump on the market, yet, there's no reason to believe this. Why would he be so sure that he is going to crack a hard disk encrypted with probably cascaded algorithms and a very strong password at any given date? Supposedly his mining operation is actually a farm of computers trying to crack the wallet file, but even then, there's no way to really know when you could bruteforce it. Anyone that has attempted to bruteforce strong passwords with those algorithms has failed. I've forgotten passwords and I already assumed it's pointless to try to access the data again.
Not to mention the huge fail that would be if Paul had additional encryption once the first password is broken which I don't doubt since he was a very paranoid man.

And this is all assuming that any of this is true (Paul Calder being satoshi, having 1.000.000 BTC and whatnot, and not just being more cover up lunacy by Craig to avoid the aussie taxmen, keep his shitcoin on the headlines etc).

I think this is just FUD started by one comment on a topic in reddit. Some 'informed' guy suggested that nonsense in 2018 clearly to cause a dump. He stated that CW will receive Kleiman's keys to his shares in Jan 2020 and by then he has to crack the hard drive he supposedly stole from Paul Le Roux, so that he may prove he is Satoshi. But another user corrected this misinformation by citing Kleman's will that CW would get the keys of the shares that belong to Kleiman in 2020 OR 15 months after his death. These months passed a long time ago, CW got the shares and I guess this is the reason why Kleman's family sues CW. So even CW breaks the code it will prove nothing, since he has the shares already. Regarding the possible breaking, it won't worth it. The coins are stored in multiple wallets with little amount each (It was like 50BTC each but I am not sure) , so breaking 1 of them won't bring him a fortune, nor it will prove he is Satoshi. And it will cost him dearly in terms of electricity only. True Crypt is a tough nut to crack, even with thousands asics it will take decades if not centuries for just one wallet to crack.

Why do you assume that it's different wallets? It's different addresses. I doubt satoshi had a wallet per mining reward transaction (50 BTC at the time), so it should all be nicely kept within the same wallet, unless in 2009 a wallet only contained one address which im not familiar with.

The Kleiman coins have already been debunked by wizsec, visit this: https://blog.wizsec.jp/2018/02/kleiman-v-craig-wright-bitcoins.html

The only reason im paying close attention to the Paul Calder cause is due the amount of coincidences. There's even the infamous post of 2002 which im not sure it has been mentioned here, in which the IP belong to the netherlands, and Paul Calder was apparently in netherlands during that time.



As far as cracking TrueCrypt, we should look at what features the program had in 2009. If cascaded ciphers were a thing back then, and so on.

PS: The post you are replying to was deleted? Please stop deleting posts, we are having a conversation here and everything is related to price anyway, as if any of this actually happens it would definitely have an impact.

PS2: I think CSW is a massive opportunist and the Paul Le Roux theory is just that, however we must keep digging.

[lightfoot]

... wasn't that great. .......................................... allowed porn to take off.

sir, your argumentation confuses me

How so? Back in the late 80's we had Gopher Servers (gopher://, port 70, etc) which had plenty of information horsepower, however Gopher protocol was focused more on information and less on edge items like images. HTTP: was a bit more effiicient (and less organized) but the browsers (instead of being based on text based systems) were based on X-Windows and NeXTStep Display Postscript and were thus able to display images inline with the text.

This was quickly followed by an explosion in porn (which used to be either linked on FTP: sites and/or alt.sex.erotica.pictures.(everything under the fucking sun), the BLINK tag, clickable images, and the rest was history.

So lee did make something pretty cool (a porn browser basically) but he alone was not the father of the internet (that would be people who would ride their motorcycle naked in Boston). More like America Online/QuantumLink he brought it to the great porn loving masses.

[Ibian]

If Paul Le Roux is really Satoshi,

He is not. Nor anyone else claiming to be without cryptographic proof. Move the fuck on you morons.

[pereira4]

Only 2 signature campaigns left of any note, IMHO. Livecoin and ChipMixer. There are no openings ever on Chipmixer, unless you have massive stats, like 93+ trust, etc. I was kinda

told. (Joking I hope).

I wouldn't be surprised if Chipmixer disappears within the next year or two. The average time for a mixer services seems to be around 3 years. 5 the strongest ones, as low as 1 for the weaker ones. We just had Bestmixer taken out by the cops recently... hopefully im wrong but that seems to be the trend. Chipmixer will probably go away in similar fashion than Bitmixer did. Probably even if the site isn't annihilated by the cops, the developers may just become increasingly paranoid after X year and start afresh.

In a way, not that different from exchangers.. Livecoin may go cryptopia eventually. Again, I hope im wrong, but let's not be naive here. Most crypto related services are short lived, except those that have heavily regulated.

You guys are wasting your time with that LeRoux crap

It's no different than "wasting time" in technical analysis. We are just speculating as well, but at the fundamental analysis level.

[Saint-loup]

If Paul Le Roux is really Satoshi,

He is not. Nor anyone else claiming to be without cryptographic proof. Move the fuck on you morons.

I agree I think Satoshi is dead, because I think it's Hal 

[realr0ach]

Trollgoossens, has your leader (((Satoshi))) come to give you your propaganda to recite yet for the day?  The usual bullshit to try and trick the goyim into a digital only, cashless society slavery system instead of physical metals?

[Ibian]

I wouldn't be surprised if Chipmixer disappears within the next year or two. The average time for a mixer services seems to be around 3 years. 5 the strongest ones, as low as 1 for the weaker ones. We just had Bestmixer taken out by the cops recently... hopefully im wrong but that seems to be the trend. Chipmixer will probably go away in similar fashion than Bitmixer did. Probably even if the site isn't annihilated by the cops, the developers may just become increasingly paranoid after X year and start afresh.

In a way, not that different from exchangers.. Livecoin may go cryptopia eventually. Again, I hope im wrong, but let's not be naive here. Most crypto related services are short lived, except those that have heavily regulated.

Decentralize all the mixers! Make them un-cop-able!

[realr0ach]

Allow sub-Saharan negroes into your country they said.  It'll be great they said.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-06-08/dying-inmate-admits-killing-93-women-would-be-most-prolific-serial-killer-us