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[realr0ach]

I don't think you people understand how the world works.  There are central planner, half baked technocrats that have calculated the carrying capacity of earth being a lot lower than current population, so their idea is basically collapse areas of western civilization on purpose so it will turn back into agrarian land and all the people will die (Agenda 21 and other such programs).  So you then have evil cult of Judaism members walk up and say "Oh?  Killing all white Christians on purpose like we did in the Bolshevik revolution in Russia?  Yea, let's do that".  

These demonic Jews then team up with the malthusian technocrats - of which the Jews have zero inclination of getting rid of their own kind, just exterminating white people out of hatred - so the Malthusian technocrats just wind up being useful idiots for the Bolshevik Jews in genociding their own.  None of this is actually necessary since K-selection whites and NE Asians self regulate their population growth, which is why places like Russia and US whites are declining in population already.  

The only factor that has to be addressed to stop out of control population growth is to not subsidize R-selection brown people from reproducing out of control by cutting off aid to places like Africa and not allowing them in to white civilizations.

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[jbreher]

@jbreher of course I would like that....

Oops. I misread what you wrote. I thought you said you'd like me to sell all my BTC. Sorry.

[Majormax]

...Long way off as in 1 year?  That's fine.  We can deal with it.  Or long way off like 2-3 years?  That does not seem too likely.

Seems that once we are approaching 2 years, especially 2 years from right now, we are going to be long into ATHs and maybe even we might be at the end of this particular bull cycle by then.  Perhaps?  Perhaps?  Perhaps we might get a bit front runned this time, who knows?  Time will tell, and these little periods of overexcited and irrational exuberance surely shows both the power of king daddy and also that we are in early days and experiencing a bit of an underlying battle... that sometimes us mere mortal regular people just have to have enough ability and foresight to HODL through such tramas and maybe even figure out ways to skim a little profits off of the nearly inbred likelihood that we are going to have ongoing volatility including sometimes extreme short period outbursts.  ..... 
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Yes, that is around the sort of timescale I had in mind. I am really just helping to manage expectations so that ppl are not too disappointed.

Firstly, we have accepted that BTC can behave anyway at all, but then it's pointless trying to make some sense of a chart. The WO board is purposeless if everyone is just hodling for ever.

I am saying that IF BTC were a stock/commodity/price in the standard investing world, then the price chart/fractals/shapes are saying x y and z. This actually seems to work for 90% of the time , but very occasionally, at extended time intervals, there is a sudden supra-normal move.

The recent exceptional spike has pointed out resistance at 10.5k, and, coming below the strong resistance at 13.5k, it is a bearish indicator (in conventional analysis).

Assuming we ignore that analysis on a long (bull forever) view, my conclusion is that it will still be a more extended time before a challenge to the ATH. 1 to 2 years is my rough guess.  I know that is going contrary to the halvening theory, so it's a really contrarian call, and I guess I am comfortable being a vilified contrarian.

[jbreher]

The recent exceptional spike has pointed out resistance at 10.5k, and, coming below the strong resistance at 13.5k, it is a bearish indicator (in conventional analysis).

I don't know nuttin' 'bout no conventional analysis, so I'll just ask. Does conventional analysis really consider a positive overshoot spike the same as being rebuffed at a resistance level?

[goldkingcoiner]

...Long way off as in 1 year?  That's fine.  We can deal with it.  Or long way off like 2-3 years?  That does not seem too likely.

Seems that once we are approaching 2 years, especially 2 years from right now, we are going to be long into ATHs and maybe even we might be at the end of this particular bull cycle by then.  Perhaps?  Perhaps?  Perhaps we might get a bit front runned this time, who knows?  Time will tell, and these little periods of overexcited and irrational exuberance surely shows both the power of king daddy and also that we are in early days and experiencing a bit of an underlying battle... that sometimes us mere mortal regular people just have to have enough ability and foresight to HODL through such tramas and maybe even figure out ways to skim a little profits off of the nearly inbred likelihood that we are going to have ongoing volatility including sometimes extreme short period outbursts.  .....
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Yes, that is around the sort of timescale I had in mind. I am really just helping to manage expectations so that ppl are not too disappointed.

Firstly, we have accepted that BTC can behave anyway at all, but then it's pointless trying to make some sense of a chart. The WO board is purposeless if everyone is just hodling for ever.

I am saying that IF BTC were a stock/commodity/price in the standard investing world, then the price chart/fractals/shapes are saying x y and z. This actually seems to work for 90% of the time , but very occasionally, at extended time intervals, there is a sudden supra-normal move.

The recent exceptional spike has pointed out resistance at 10.5k, and, coming below the strong resistance at 13.5k, it is a bearish indicator (in conventional analysis).

Assuming we ignore that analysis on a long (bull forever) view, my conclusion is that it will still be a more extended time before a challenge to the ATH. 1 to 2 years is my rough guess.  I know that is going contrary to the halvening theory, so it's a really contrarian call, and I guess I am comfortable being a vilified contrarian.

The WO is for wasting time with a few good fellows while you watch your money grow. If anything, the purpose of WO is to keep your mind off of panic selling.

[El duderino_]

@jbreher of course I would like that....

Oops. I misread what you wrote. I thought you said you'd like me to sell all my BTC. Sorry.

My writings can be misread especially when I write after a few drinks on a Saturday .... #noHomo for previous posts

[realr0ach]

My writings can be misread especially when I write after a few drinks on a Saturday

I would be drinking too if my life savings was stored in imaginary, valueless timestamps.

[modpleasehelp]

i made correct prediction on TA analsis other day  

thanke you all subscriber for donation in my channel and sub.  I call on my channel before rise yesterday. all my sub make big money on my live strem. but private stream to only pateron subscriber gave info, but here is a free info for friends here:

Bull trap has occur yesterday and again we will fall here 9300 - 5k

[Last of the V8s]

not bad mr mayor not bad at all

[Ludwig Von]

I don't think you people understand how the world works.  There are central planner, half baked technocrats that have calculated the carrying capacity of earth being a lot lower than current population, so their idea is basically collapse areas of western civilization on purpose so it will turn back into agrarian land and all the people will die (Agenda 21 and other such programs).  So you then have evil cult of Judaism members walk up and say "Oh?  Killing all white Christians on purpose like we did in the Bolshevik revolution in Russia?  Yea, let's do that".  

These demonic Jews then team up with the malthusian technocrats - of which the Jews have zero inclination of getting rid of their own kind, just exterminating white people out of hatred - so the Malthusian technocrats just wind up being useful idiots for the Bolshevik Jews in genociding their own.  None of this is actually necessary since K-selection whites and NE Asians self regulate their population growth, which is why places like Russia and US whites are declining in population already.  

The only factor that has to be addressed to stop out of control population growth is to not subsidize R-selection brown people from reproducing out of control by cutting off aid to places like Africa and not allowing them in to white civilizations.

My question was : "What is your contribution to the procreation of the "white Christian" people? I did not ask about your ideological general view of humanity, my question is personal... . 

[Ludwig Von]

i made correct prediction on TA analsis other day  

thanke you all subscriber for donation in my channel and sub.  I call on my channel before rise yesterday. all my sub make big money on my live strem. but private stream to only pateron subscriber gave info, but here is a free info for friends here:

Bull trap has occur yesterday and again we will fall here 9300 - 5k

Go to bed, SuperTA, we have our Roach here! 

[goldkingcoiner]

If you guys love TA so much join my telegram daytrading channel "signalarity". Although its less of a daytrading channel and more of a "me boasting about my ROI" channel.

[Arriemoller]

As I am not a programmer nor expert in crypto, I have arrived at HODLing some 1% (of my net), the minimum that JJG suggests above.  1% is probably close to what I understand BTC to be.  Risks and rewards are both high.  1% is the right amount for me in that if BTC price craters, it changes very little for me.  If it climbs to a nice ATH, well great!  

If you're only willing to put 1% of your money in something, it's definitely not an 'investment'.  A high risk, pump and dump scam maybe, but only willing to risk 1% is not an investment.  To me the word investment implies you actually have confidence in what you're purchasing, and 1% is not confidence.  That would be gambling, not investing (from the relative viewpoint of the individual).  

Actually, according to my economics 101 class the only investment a private person can make is purchase of real estate, everything else is consumption.

So they can only invest in something they do not own.

You own real estate don't you?

You rent/lease real estate from the government.

Try not paying your "rent" some time and see if you own it.

I honestly don't know what you are talking about Elwar, I own real estate and i pay no rent nor enything else to the government or the state.
Could you please elaborate.

Nice. What magical land do you live in where the government does not take money from you for owning property?

Sweden

[xhomerx10]

Why are you making jokes about vegeta? Is it because it's from my community croatia?

Man, if you don't know what Vegeta means to WO, you are really new here...

I bet you don't know about Carolina either...

I can clear this up:
Vegeta is the name of a well known anime character AS WELL as the brand name of a vegetarian spice mix, used mainly to prop up vegetable soup and sauces.
The spice mix is very popular and indeed made in Croatia. SuperTA seems to not know about the anime Vegeta. I also didn't know as long as i didn't enter "vegeta" in google image search.

 Spice mix?  Please... it's primariy a bag of salt and MSG also used extensively in every Romanian dish; probably even desserts.  There's only one Vegeta allowed in our home and only when his power level is over nine thousand!!!!!

[Arriemoller]

Just looked that up, quite a long read. And yes, the UK does not charge an annual tax for property (land) like Austria (for example) does.

We limeys do pay Council Tax which is banded based on property value, however.

As do we swedes, max 780 USD per annum and some properties are exempt, like some agriculture land for example.

[dyask]

My writings can be misread especially when I write after a few drinks on a Saturday

I would be drinking too if my life savings was stored in imaginary, valueless timestamps.

The value of silver and gold is also imaginary.   Pretty much true for all forms of money unless you can eat it or at least use it to clean yourself!

[Majormax]

The recent exceptional spike has pointed out resistance at 10.5k, and, coming below the strong resistance at 13.5k, it is a bearish indicator (in conventional analysis).

I don't know nuttin' 'bout no conventional analysis, so I'll just ask. Does conventional analysis really consider a positive overshoot spike the same as being rebuffed at a resistance level?

No.  I would think a positive overshoot (to use that term ) would be making new highs , either above resistance, or ATH.

[Arriemoller]

hmm council tax and business rates are almost exactly property tax by another name. bastards.

He said "to the government/state" (quoting from memory).
And not paying it doesn't mean they take your land, they will take a lot of other things and auction them of to get the money though, and whats left over will be returned to you.

[El duderino_]

Home sweet home at last.
Time to turn the clock “winter”.
Extra HODL hour!!!

[xhomerx10]

As I am not a programmer nor expert in crypto, I have arrived at HODLing some 1% (of my net), the minimum that JJG suggests above.  1% is probably close to what I understand BTC to be.  Risks and rewards are both high.  1% is the right amount for me in that if BTC price craters, it changes very little for me.  If it climbs to a nice ATH, well great!  

If you're only willing to put 1% of your money in something, it's definitely not an 'investment'.  A high risk, pump and dump scam maybe, but only willing to risk 1% is not an investment.  To me the word investment implies you actually have confidence in what you're purchasing, and 1% is not confidence.  That would be gambling, not investing (from the relative viewpoint of the individual).  

Actually, according to my economics 101 class the only investment a private person can make is purchase of real estate, everything else is consumption.

So they can only invest in something they do not own.

You own real estate don't you?

You rent/lease real estate from the government.

Try not paying your "rent" some time and see if you own it.

I honestly don't know what you are talking about Elwar, I own real estate and i pay no rent nor enything else to the government or the state.
Could you please elaborate.

Nice. What magical land do you live in where the government does not take money from you for owning property?

Sweden

 In Canadistan we pay property tax based on a market value assessment of your property and a mill rate set by the local municipal government.  It's somewhere between 1 and 2 percent of your property value annually, billed quarterly (roughly) but the full amount is generally due before October.