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December 20, 2019, 04:06:29 AM


Are you actually stealing some of my future bitcoin addresses (and Bitserve's too?)

Well you could use them too, be he has the priv keys Smiley

there has gotta be some inability to reuse them too once you generate the addresses, right?  

Nah..
Everyone can still use these keypairs but you won't be the only one that can..

Makes me wonder if collisions are more likely for generated addys..
Prolly not by much enough to make a difference to lowly human technology..




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Could be a long bearish yet ahead, ....  but halving incoming..

<<<<<<<<<<< Notice the last ATH of $1,200 dwarfed...
Over and over and over



I dislike vanity addresses because they actually decrease that particular wallet security.
Re charts-linear charts do look like crap. We should look only on log charts on the longer time period.
I am quite curious as to where we would end up on Dec 31. however, it does not matter much since if we are not going up significantly in the next 10 days or so, the most likely scenario would be bottoming at the lower levels in January.
Still not trading it.
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December 20, 2019, 04:12:43 AM


To be on the safe side though, you should change your nickname  Tongue  Oh!  Don't change your nickname to any of the 8 letter words... I've already found most of those:
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More bad news.

Since you seemed to have cornered a lot of the bitcoin addresses market, I am considering changing my interwebs nick to a longer one... something like, HopeLess8jFESKwMRnz, and take my chances in starting my interwebs' life over again.    Tongue  (gonna take me a while to build up my post count again, but I am going to post shorter ideas... like maybe just a sentence or two per post, and that way I can reach my current post count a lot more quickly under my new interwebs identity).

Everyone can still use these keypairs but you won't be the only one that can..

Makes me wonder if collisions are more likely for generated addys..
Prolly not by much enough to make a difference to lowly human technology..

I have been in bitcoin for 6 years, and a lot of use of various kinds of bitcoin address management tools remains gobbeldy-gook to me.  Maybe I should play around more just to get more comforts?  

I do sometimes generate addresses from various wallets that I use, and I thought that I had learned quite a few basic moving around bitcoin things including manage addresses when claiming some of my then sprung into existence bcash in August/September 2017... at least some of my comforts had gone up in terms of using back ups and moving bitcoins around in order to claim the bcash, which ultimately resulted in some more technological comforts that I did not lose any coins... or so it seems, but then I saw some other mistakes I made in that process, too.  

Anyhow, some of the customization abilities of some wallets, or even using more advance tools that are available seems out of my area of comfort and practices.
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December 20, 2019, 04:50:24 AM

And here I was hoping to change my nickname to Abutment
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Prosecutors Say Surveillance Footage From Night of Epstein’s First Suicide Attempt Is Missing.

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Prosecutors have revealed that surveillance footage of accused sex trafficker Jeffrey Epstein's cell during his first suicide attempt has gone missing, The New York Daily News reports. Assistant U.S. Attorney Jason Swergold told a court Wednesday that no one could find footage showing the outside of Epstein's cell that he shared with accused quadruple murderer Nick Tartaglione. A spokesman for the Manhattan U.S. Attorney’s Office confirmed that the footage had gone missing. Judge Kenneth Karas reportedly asked prosecutors to find out more information on what happened to the footage.

Isn't that convenient...looks like a cover up to me which we all know.


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December 20, 2019, 05:44:21 AM
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Thought I'd post these while I have them, it relates to the quality of money and the effects of dilution of the monetary base which seems relevant to current meta.



This is commodities index vs stocks, generally oil etc. is not that expensive right now vs how it could be




BTC lows for last day reflect an 8 day average and I take it as positive action while continuing there.
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December 20, 2019, 06:29:28 AM

Italy 0% because regulator still didn’t figure out how to tax bitcoins or other cryptos.
As soon they discover how to tax it: 23%.

It's easy, capital gains such as any other asset/stock/currency/PM/wood or whatever that result in a... yes, capital gain at the moment of selling.

Or have they specifically made an exception for crypto?

The Italian IRS doesn’t speak with Kraken Coinbase or other exchanges. They don’t know if you made any trade with crypto. They speak to banks: they only know if you made bank transfers from/to exchanges.
In Italy you have to pay taxes only if there is a law that explicitly tells you to do so.
There is no law including capital gains on crypto’s on taxable gains.
Hence no taxes on crypto capital gains.
It is not even perfectly clear if you have to declare you have crypto’s (you have to declare, for example, the money you hold in foreign bank accounts- legal and not taxed).

Before you start thinking weird things: I strongly advise against entering Italian taxes jurisdiction.
 
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December 20, 2019, 06:35:10 AM

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Quiet, if you want weird things you can come to Spain and you will be surprised how prepared we are on these issues. Cheesy

Today another day of endless food with customers awaits me.
Damn job

Go BTC Go
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This is all true... At the end of the day I believe it only makes a small difference as to who is actually president. The machinations behind the corporate/government complex won't let the system be disrupted out of their favor.

Enjoy your new rank.  Cool

HEY, cool  Cool
Thanks  Grin
Didn't take notice of my new rank tbh, even since i change the personal text below my avatar on a more or less daily basis.
Good morning at $7.105 in another episopde of sideways fridays on bitstamp  Wink
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December 20, 2019, 06:49:47 AM

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Quiet, if you want weird things you can come to Spain and you will be surprised how prepared we are on these issues. Cheesy

Today another day of endless food with customers awaits me.
Damn job

Go BTC Go

As you remember I am used to visit Spain.
Spanish food I like: all of that.
Spanish Bureaucracy I like: none of that.

Italy and Spain are very similar countries, little but noticeable differences.

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https://www.coindesk.com/coinbase-ceo-armstrong-wins-patent-for-tech-allowing-users-to-email-bitcoin

Now when a no-coiner, tech illiterate friend tells you about "emailing bitcoins", you have to look down on your feet, clench your teeth and quietly and shamefully admit, that is indeed how it works. Grin

good morning WO
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The government has passed a tax law lately here.

According to the law, the citizens must pay an annual tax for every non-commercial real estate they own which is worth more than 5M TRY (~$840k).

This is not a real estate tax. They already collect them. This is not exactly taxing the rich neither. This is a tax on wealth...This is theft.

It is also stupid they ignore those who own hundreds of cheap houses but tax people who only own 1 house which is worth above $840k.

So... I wonder... is there even one country left on earth which is going to leave me the fuck alone when I get rich by investing in bitcoin?

I am searching but still cannot find the ideal place to live a happy life. They either tax your wealth or your income with a rate of %50 which is another form of theft.

And the low tax countries are either run by mafia (actually not much different than the high tax countries but they don't even hide themselves there) or they are straight outta medieval times.

There isn't even a place to hide or run away. I am starting to feel like even I if land on a couple of millions, I'll still have to work to protect them. Or to not lose them. Fucking thieves are at every corner.

If I'll still have to work to protect my wealth, I wouldn't exactly call this getting rich. Kills the whole purpose of getting rich. I thought this was the government's job, protecting my wealth... well... fuck em.

If the governments work against your interests, The most sensible thing to do for you is, working against their interests. Tldr; buy gold $ bitcoin.
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It looks like the Bargain Boyz may have to take a sabbatical for the next couple years.
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Hopefully less than that...

I really want to retire at the end of 2021.

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Taxing capital is the ultimate result of fiscal deficit and deliberate overspending, it results in confiscation basically via whatever language excuses it.   Its not new, it happened in the 1970's in parts of Europe and probably many places since.
  It doesn't really work in a global economy where production can occur in many places, especially with growing service sector, etc.    People will just leave or their money will, the next part then is capital controls.  Economies usually have to reset for reasons like this, we've gone a long time without one in many countries which kinda makes it worse.

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The line is a little too loose for me to reference especially but its fair call we are likely in the region of bottom trend prices.


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It is also stupid they ignore those who own hundreds of cheap houses but tax people who only own 1 house which is worth above $840k.

Theres a famous movie star, actually probably more then one but as a couple they just bought houses next to each other.   Both not cheap but they use them as a pair and when their super star egos wear a little thin they just retire to either house to get some space.   Kinda smart but I suppose its possible to own a series of houses quite close to each other and gain vs a tax like this.   
   It wont be the first or last time it happens.   In years past they taxed the number of windows in a house, glass at the time was still quite special.   Tax obviously is a burden and impediment so people just bricked up their windows to pay less tax.   Taxes end up like sitting on people and expecting them to do their job anyway, it gets too much weight to carry.
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Christ on a crutch.  Longs are almost 10x shorts on BFX.  This is the most crowded trade on the planet.  But shorts still paying longs on Bitmex.  Wtf is going on.  

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They have either lost their minds or know the future is coming, and they are frothing at the mouth

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I am searching but still cannot find the ideal place to live a happy life. They either tax your wealth or your income with a rate of %50 which is another form of theft.

Monaco of course. You'll have to double your anticipated wealth to afford a rabbit hutch there and you'll be surrounded by dried out skeletons in Hermes jumpsuits but at least it's benign on the surface.

I once spent all night waiting on a pavement there. The Monegasque pigs weren't very nice to me.
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December 20, 2019, 11:53:40 AM
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Put the assets in a South Dakota trust.

Trustee incorporates a private corporation, the shares of which are held by the trust.

Trust funds the private corporation.

Private corporation opens a bank account.

Bank account has a credit card in name of company.

You use the credit card.  Don't do anything stupid with it.  Live wherever you want.

Any more questions?
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December 20, 2019, 11:56:16 AM

https://www.coindesk.com/coinbase-ceo-armstrong-wins-patent-for-tech-allowing-users-to-email-bitcoin

Now when a no-coiner, tech illiterate friend tells you about "emailing bitcoins", you have to look down on your feet, clench your teeth and quietly and shamefully admit, that is indeed how it works. Grin

good morning WO

My gf’s Dad keeps thinking he has bitcoin’s because he keeps getting emails saying he has 100,000 in ‘his wallet’, fucking tard.
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I once spent all night waiting on a pavement there. The Monegasque pigs weren't very nice to me.

Did they rainier on your parade?
Were they acting all un-grace-ful?
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