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[bitebits]

This is fine:


https://twitter.com/BTC_LN/status/1418965171716825088

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[ChartBuddy]

Explanation

[Farmer Bill]

I am not sure I can teach you the whole concept of thermodynamics in a reasonable amount of time in this thread.

That's fine. I believe my o-level and a-level teachers and the lecturers that contributed to my physics degree have you covered.

Then why ask?  And I am not particularly impressed with degrees bragged about on a internet forum to be honest. All I am getting from quite a few of you is that you just want to argue. I am done at this point. Zero sum game.

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Good night.

... nobody is getting argumentative except you, when you got called on the bogus "earth is a closed system" claim ... probably the original sin of that quasi-religious pseudo-science know as "climate science"

Its all good...I dont want to be more of a dick than I already have. Fuck the maths of it all and just go outside and look around...really look. Things are changing...things have changed just in my lifetime. I have seen it with mine own eye. How many species have gone extinct the last 100 years...how many tons of toxic waste has been dumped into land fills and our oceans? How many extreme weather events happened over the last 20 years? How many glaciers have melted affecting water supply..how much have the polar caps melted affecting the jet streams? Putting a stick in a pot and stirring things around and expecting no noticeable effects is ludicrous in my opinion. My whole point was that I think we can do better. Plain and simple.

... and here you've engaged in another of the green marxism misinformation tactics, conflating many different pollution problems, some real, some ill-perceived anecodotes, into a mish-mash of "the earth is ending, zomg!" to justify some crazy idea that shutting down C02, CH4 emissions will 'cool' the warming 'earth' ... a) it's not proven it is even warming particularly that much recently or b) that it is due to increases in "greenhouses gases" and by how much and by which percentage of the gases that are anthropogenic.

... Earth has always had extreme weather events, statistically the last 20 years are not particularly unusual in the recorded history, which is exceedingly short, and the geologic record suggests there have been far greater extremes in weather

... the meteor that hit the Yucatan penisula and wiped out the dinosaurs sent a tidal wave 1500m high! into the south coast of the USA and sent up a plume of debris into the atmosphere that blocked out sunlight for 10 years ... want to explain how relatively dangerous humans are to the earth's closed system is again?

So the earth is supposedly 1.2C above per-industrial temperatures, no date is ever given for the end of the pre-industrial era.

Lets assume it was 1750.  

Dutch Inventor Fahrenheit had developed a fairly accurate mercury thermometer by this date.
While the two fixed points of calibration, freezing and boiling point were assumed to be accurate the points between these two were merely interpolated.
These early capillary tubes varied in diameter throughout their length and affected accuracy, a variation of a few degrees was certainly possible.

No standard method of recording air temperatures was in place for another 100 years into the industrial revolution, when Thomas Stevenson in 1864 developed his Stevenson's screen which standardized how temps were measured. In a slatted white box 4 to 6 feet above ground level.

Whilst with modern technology and satellite surveillance, earths average temperatures can be published with certain accuracy, those of pre industrial times cannot. There is insufficient and accurate enough data to do so and to publish as fact the figure of a 1.2C difference is disingenuous.

[philipma1957]

I am not sure I can teach you the whole concept of thermodynamics in a reasonable amount of time in this thread.

That's fine. I believe my o-level and a-level teachers and the lecturers that contributed to my physics degree have you covered.

Then why ask?  And I am not particularly impressed with degrees bragged about on a internet forum to be honest. All I am getting from quite a few of you is that you just want to argue. I am done at this point. Zero sum game.

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Good night.

... nobody is getting argumentative except you, when you got called on the bogus "earth is a closed system" claim ... probably the original sin of that quasi-religious pseudo-science know as "climate science"

Its all good...I dont want to be more of a dick than I already have. Fuck the maths of it all and just go outside and look around...really look. Things are changing...things have changed just in my lifetime. I have seen it with mine own eye. How many species have gone extinct the last 100 years...how many tons of toxic waste has been dumped into land fills and our oceans? How many extreme weather events happened over the last 20 years? How many glaciers have melted affecting water supply..how much have the polar caps melted affecting the jet streams? Putting a stick in a pot and stirring things around and expecting no noticeable effects is ludicrous in my opinion. My whole point was that I think we can do better. Plain and simple.

... and here you've engaged in another of the green marxism misinformation tactics, conflating many different pollution problems, some real, some ill-perceived anecodotes, into a mish-mash of "the earth is ending, zomg!" to justify some crazy idea that shutting down C02, CH4 emissions will 'cool' the warming 'earth' ... a) it's not proven it is even warming particularly that much recently or b) that it is due to increases in "greenhouses gases" and by how much and by which percentage of the gases that are anthropogenic.

... Earth has always had extreme weather events, statistically the last 20 years are not particularly unusual in the recorded history, which is exceedingly short, and the geologic record suggests there have been far greater extremes in weather

... the meteor that hit the Yucatan penisula and wiped out the dinosaurs sent a tidal wave 1500m high! into the south coast of the USA and sent up a plume of debris into the atmosphere that blocked out sunlight for 10 years ... want to explain how relatively dangerous humans are to the earth's closed system is again?

So the earth is supposedly 1.2C above per-industrial temperatures, no date is ever given for the end of the pre-industrial era.

Lets assume it was 1750.  

Dutch Inventor Fahrenheit had developed a fairly accurate mercury thermometer by this date.
While the two fixed points of calibration, freezing and boiling point were assumed to be accurate the points between these two were merely interpolated.
These early capillary tubes varied in diameter throughout their length and affected accuracy, a variation of a few degrees was certainly possible.

No standard method of recording air temperatures was in place for another 100 years into the industrial revolution, when Thomas Stevenson in 1864 developed his Stevenson's screen which standardized how temps were measured. In a slatted white box 4 to 6 feet above ground level.

Whilst with modern technology and satellite surveillance, earths average temperatures can be published with certain accuracy, those of pre industrial times cannot. There is insufficient and accurate enough data to do so and to publish as fact the figure of a 1.2C difference is disingenuous.

The problem is the earth was really warm with no ice caps and we can all argue that we are or are not going back to that point.

But we are not doing simple basic moves.

Solar
solar
solar
solar
solar
solar

mine coal and store it do not burn it.

That simple move is just in case the sun gets colder.

At the moment the sun is warm and giving use 'free' energy .

Burning coal is moron move.

What happens if the sun cools a lot and solar truly sucks. forcing more coal to be used.  oh that's right we were burning it when we had plenty of 'free' sun.

The above idea to put solar on every roof top means we burn less coal.
We mine the same and store it just in case we get cold and not much sun.

Unfortunately the idea above will never happen.

Due to the false fight over whether or not global warming is real and caused by people.

It does not matter either way yes to global warming or no to global warming  my plan above is sound.

Yet no one talks about on the left or the right.
So we are fucked and will get fucked more.
While the rich have mars and moon bases incase the earth has a really bad crash. In 50-100 years.

[Torque]

We are still so early. Author starts off with this and it goes downhill from there...
https://thehill.com/opinion/cybersecurity/564696-bye-bye-bitcoin-time-to-ban-crypto-currencies

I’ve never quite understood why cryptocurrencies are worth anything.

I just added this one to the pile...

https://99bitcoins.com/bitcoin-obituaries/

[El duderino_]

Have done a full day of free work…. “Helping”

But of Sunday charity   

[JimboToronto]

Good morn Bitcoinland.
Three four two two nine dollars
(Bitcoinaverage).

Are Sunday haikus
Still a thing at Bitcointalk
Or are they passe?

I try to keep up
But sometimes I'm left behind
Like no Twittard eyes.  

[ChartBuddy]

Explanation

[Toxic2040]

You brought up my knowledge and/or capability of understanding thermodynamics. I don't believe I've ever mentioned it before on these forums (certainly not in a long time), nor have I used it to assert one thing or another.

Fair enough...I think I what I said was I was unsure of my ability to present something cognisant for you and how much of a explanation you desired. You do seem a bit sensitive about it though so my bad. I thought I was trying to answer someone with a honest question. If it was flippant or somehow besmirched your honour...again...my apologies.

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... and here you've engaged in another of the green marxism misinformation tactics, conflating many different pollution problems, some real, some ill-perceived anecodotes, into a mish-mash of "the earth is ending, zomg!" to justify some crazy idea that shutting down C02, CH4 emissions will 'cool' the warming 'earth' ... a) it's not proven it is even warming particularly that much recently or b) that it is due to increases in "greenhouses gases" and by how much and by which percentage of the gases that are anthropogenic.

... Earth has always had extreme weather events, statistically the last 20 years are not particularly unusual in the recorded history, which is exceedingly short, and the geologic record suggests there have been far greater extremes in weather

... the meteor that hit the Yucatan penisula and wiped out the dinosaurs sent a tidal wave 1500m high! into the south coast of the USA and sent up a plume of debris into the atmosphere that blocked out sunlight for 10 years ... want to explain how relatively dangerous humans are to the earth's closed system is again?

I think you know by now marcus that I dont have a marxist bone in my body. Do I lean left on somethings? Probably. Do I lean right on somethings? Probably. I am happy you are at least acknowledging there might be a chance of a pollution problem. And there is no conflation..I am not confusing one 'problem' or idea with another. I was taking a question and doing my best to answer it in laymans terms so someone could wrap their head around the concept. Are the data points humanity has collected in the short time we as a species have understood there is such a thing as science matter? Possibly. Look at this way...has the current run up of bitcoins price looked like what we have experience in the past? Not exactly...the same goes for these data points collected about the environment...it does not quite look like what is expected. For me..that sets off a few warning bells and suggests a closer eye should be kept on it. Does the closed system of Earth orbiting around a star break for a short time every couple of hundred million years? You bet it does. That does not prove that the theory of thermodynamics is broken. In your defense..most theories mankind has ever had has been supplanted by yet another. So my mind remains open and I hope yours does too.

My point was and remains that I think we can do a better job at taking care of the boat we all live in.

[serveria.com]

This is crazy absolutely nuts

Maybe some people never seen a microwave over or what 2.4 GHz can do.
Have device close to brain on left and right side is absolutly nuts

Ok so I presume you don't drive a car but ride a horse instead? You don't watch TV or listen to the radio because these devices emit harmful radiation? Internet is also dangerous because your wifi is frying your brain while you're typing this message? Don't forget about your phone and it's harmful GSM and 4G waves. Not even mentioning your house made of harmful concrete, fillers and plaster? Clothes, food etc etc etc  

What, a car emitting radiation, is that some kind of vaccine side effect?
And no the router is not right next to the brain but sure wouldn't mind upgrading to Lifi.
4G waves, you are clueless. Fourth generation or fifth generation is not a wave, different operators purchased a particular spectrum and operate at that wavelength. 5G has lots of different waves and operators can switch between. Some wavelengths are bad (2,4Ghz, 60Ghz) some weapons (93Ghz)
There is a reason microwave ovens work at 2.4Ghz and not 2.3 or 2.5Ghz no sane person would sit in it.

You realize you're just picking random words from my post and making up quotes, don't you? I will give you a hint (see above)...  

[lightfoot]

Ditch the tin foil - aluminum foil is the way to go. Stops the voices too!

Those of us "in the know" have had the aluminum foil surgically implanted under our scalps. Far less noticeable, easier to deal with, and the crinkly sound when we brush our hair is pretty neat!

[suchmoon]

Whilst with modern technology and satellite surveillance, earths average temperatures can be published with certain accuracy, those of pre industrial times cannot. There is insufficient and accurate enough data to do so and to publish as fact the figure of a 1.2C difference is disingenuous.

Do you really think all that data is based on one dingy thermometer from 200 years ago? Come on.

https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/news/what-are-proxy-data

[Hueristic]

We are still so early. Author starts off with this and it goes downhill from there...
https://thehill.com/opinion/cybersecurity/564696-bye-bye-bitcoin-time-to-ban-crypto-currencies

I’ve never quite understood why cryptocurrencies are worth anything.

The comments are even worse. So many people really don't understand this topic at all.

No surprise a tool of the state is against something it cannot control.

Robert A. Manning is a senior fellow of the Brent Scowcroft Center for Strategy and Security at the Atlantic Council. He was a senior counselor to the undersecretary of State for global affairs from 2001 to 2004, a member of the U.S. Department of State policy planning staff from 2004 to 2008 and on the National Intelligence Council strategic futures group from 2008 to 2012.

[Hueristic]

Cars suck.

Why?

Haven't you been listening??

THEY KILL SHEEP!

[ChartBuddy]

Explanation

[Hueristic]

and buddy brings us back inside the good old 32-34 slot.


I would not mind sliding into and staying in a 42-44 slot for as long as we have been playing in the 32-34 slot.

D-cup?  44 sounds more like a DD or even an F.

Reminds me of a chick I nicknamed "Double D", she loved it but her boyfreind hated me for it!

[Philipma1957cellphone]

Explanation

Buddy is looking to do a nice little lift here.

Maybe we make 35k to 37k slot soon.

[marcus_of_augustus]

Whilst with modern technology and satellite surveillance, earths average temperatures can be published with certain accuracy, those of pre industrial times cannot. There is insufficient and accurate enough data to do so and to publish as fact the figure of a 1.2C difference is disingenuous.

Do you really think all that data is based on one dingy thermometer from 200 years ago? Come on.

https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/news/what-are-proxy-data

... the only truly global temperature reference is the satellite record of luminosity (only around since late 1970s), all other surface temperature measures are by necessity local and subject to the relatively massive variations diurnally (> 20°) and geographically (> 90° equatorial maxima to polar minima) ( >120° at polar surface to top of atmosphere) ... these large spatial and temporal temperature variations relative to the argued "changes" (~2° over 200 years) legitimately calls into question the wisdom of using temperature as the measuring stick for change and not a more primitive variable like atmospheric energy content

[Toxic2040]

Good morn Bitcoinland.
Three four two two nine dollars
(Bitcoinaverage).

Are Sunday haikus
Still a thing at Bitcointalk
Or are they passe?

I try to keep up
But sometimes I'm left behind
Like no Twittard eyes. 

+3 WOsMerit's


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#haikusunday

It remains a thing
Be it sometimes forgotten
That, let us rejoice

Jimbo, masterful
In the ways of a haiku
Lead the way forward

Sunshine and bitcoin
In hearts and minds, glorious
Clear, the way forward


the noon wall report at 11:23am

Yep.

#dyor

climbing moss covered hill...careful...less one slip
1h


two trunks touch gently in the morning
4h

#stronghands

[FIFA worldcup]

Is he color blind who can't see the king BTC